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On 22 Sep 1998 19:24:47 GMT, kmcvay@(known as gaygoy by his Jew
masters)wrote:

>It is unlikely that Mr. Grosvenor is a Nazi; 

On 20 Sep 1998 19:49:40 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
SOB known as gaygoy) wrote:

Canadian Press report today, that this case is really making waves in
the Federal Court of Canada.

The lawyer for George Harris, the businessman from Winnipeg who is
bringing the case against Revenue Canada, is reported as claiming that
the Bronfman case is threatening to corrupt public trust in the
Canadian tax system!!!

The lawyer is claiming that Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply
the tax, but screwed it up!!!

No kidding!!!

On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:53:45 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
>
>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
>
>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor general
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!
>
>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.
>
>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."
>
>You said it!!!
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On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Chrisdtkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:
>
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>Mark Weber
>
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>"Tel Aviv," while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>"foreign" country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. "It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . ."
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture - can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the  German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>Jews." He explained: "No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. "Zionist
>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness - should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them."10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>"The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations   between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935:  16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told   a New
>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>
>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist "promised land," a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24 
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world."26 "
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East."
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist "shadow
>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha'avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel."42
>
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>"The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country's development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively
>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Chrisdtkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:
>
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>Mark Weber
>
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>"Tel Aviv," while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>"foreign" country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. "It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . ."
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture - can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the  German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>Jews." He explained: "No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. "Zionist
>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness - should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them."10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>"The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations   between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935:  16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told   a New
>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>
>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist "promised land," a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24 
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world."26 "
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East."
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist "shadow
>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha'avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel."42
>
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>"The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country's development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively
>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
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On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:06:33 +0100, "donoli" 
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>
>Heatwave wrote in message
><19980922152752.25018.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com>...
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>>That's right, you arse holes out there I own the nickname Heatwave.
>>Nobody can use this name. I and only I can use it, you hear!! Anybody
>>trying to use this name will get sued.
>>
>>For your information, I have sued two person before for using this
>>name. In both cases I won.  If you don't believe ask anybody in
>>soc.culture.singapore how I smash their arse all over the high court
>>in Singapore.
>>
>>All my postings are PGP Signed and so you know I am the real one. All
>>others with the name Heatwave are fake!
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>Who gives a fuck?  It will take you 3 years to sue someone in New York for
>some dumg shit like that.  Donoli.


Quite apart from the fact that the USA allows freedom of expression,
and Singapore law does not apply in the freedom-loving USA!!!


Owning a nickname,indeed!!!

Perhaps everyone outside Singapore should use the names heatwave and
blurblur, and then mailbomb the original cretin???



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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:
>
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>Mark Weber
>
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>"Tel Aviv," while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>"foreign" country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. "It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . ."
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture - can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the  German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>Jews." He explained: "No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. "Zionist
>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness - should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them."10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>"The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations   between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935:  16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told   a New
>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>
>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist "promised land," a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24 
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world."26 "
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East."
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist "shadow
>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha'avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel."42
>
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>"The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country's development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively
>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
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On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Chrisdtkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:
>
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>Mark Weber
>
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>"Tel Aviv," while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>"foreign" country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. "It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . ."
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture - can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the  German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>Jews." He explained: "No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. "Zionist
>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness - should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them."10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>"The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations   between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935:  16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told   a New
>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>
>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist "promised land," a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24 
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world."26 "
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East."
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist "shadow
>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha'avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel."42
>
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>"The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country's development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively
>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV   24946

>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

-88-


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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV   24946

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>
>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>
>>>The Kastner Case
>>>
>>>                              
>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>involving
>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>
>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>and
>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>>                              The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>number is
>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>keep
>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>can
>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>of 
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>                                The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>deportations...these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>would
>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>'new
>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>of
>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>Kastner's
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>minute
>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>truth -
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>good
>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>his
>>>statements." 
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>> 
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>the 
>>>name 
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>court -
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>                        
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>found
>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>
>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>end of
>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>Jews
>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>from a
>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>Hungary
>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others....
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>an
>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>few -
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>etc. -
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>certainty
>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>a
>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>                         
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>the 
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>in
>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>



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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>working for Hitler??
>>
>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>> > sperati wrote:
>>
>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> > > North Shore News
>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>
>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>> > > Doug Collins
>>
>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>
>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>
>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> > > alive.
>>
>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> > > documents in the process.
>>
>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>
>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> > > was a Jew.
>>
>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>
>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> > > wonder why?
>>
>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>
>>==============================================
>>Phillips
>>
>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>Heydrich,
>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>thaat
>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>===========
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>
>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>
>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>
>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>
>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>
>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>
>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>
>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>Zyclon
>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>that
>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>ask
>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>That
>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>place,
>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>
>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>idiots of
>>>>scp.
>>
>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>
>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>WWII by
>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>
>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>at their minds. 
>>
>>
>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>
>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>
>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>
>>>The Kastner Case
>>>
>>>                              
>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>involving
>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>
>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>and
>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>>                              The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>number is
>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>keep
>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>can
>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>of 
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>                                The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>deportations...these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>would
>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>'new
>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>of
>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>Kastner's
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>minute
>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>truth -
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>good
>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>his
>>>statements." 
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>> 
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>the 
>>>name 
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>court -
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>                        
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>found
>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>
>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>end of
>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>Jews
>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>from a
>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>Hungary
>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others....
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>an
>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>few -
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>etc. -
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>certainty
>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>a
>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>                         
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>the 
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>in
>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>



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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>working for Hitler??
>>
>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>> > sperati wrote:
>>
>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> > > North Shore News
>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>
>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>> > > Doug Collins
>>
>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>
>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>
>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> > > alive.
>>
>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> > > documents in the process.
>>
>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>
>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> > > was a Jew.
>>
>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>
>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> > > wonder why?
>>
>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>
>>==============================================
>>Phillips
>>
>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>Heydrich,
>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>thaat
>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>===========
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>
>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>
>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>
>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>
>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>
>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>
>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>
>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>Zyclon
>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>that
>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>ask
>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>That
>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>place,
>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>
>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>idiots of
>>>>scp.
>>
>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>
>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>WWII by
>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>
>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>at their minds. 
>>
>>
>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>
>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>working for Hitler??
>>
>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>> > sperati wrote:
>>
>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> > > North Shore News
>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>
>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>> > > Doug Collins
>>
>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>
>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>
>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> > > alive.
>>
>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> > > documents in the process.
>>
>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>
>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> > > was a Jew.
>>
>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>
>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> > > wonder why?
>>
>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>
>>==============================================
>>Phillips
>>
>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>Heydrich,
>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>thaat
>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>===========
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>
>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>
>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>
>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>
>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>
>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>
>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>
>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>Zyclon
>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>that
>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>ask
>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>That
>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>place,
>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>
>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>idiots of
>>>>scp.
>>
>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>
>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>WWII by
>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>
>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>at their minds. 
>>
>>
>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>
>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>working for Hitler??
>>
>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>> > sperati wrote:
>>
>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> > > North Shore News
>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>
>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>> > > Doug Collins
>>
>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>
>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>
>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> > > alive.
>>
>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> > > documents in the process.
>>
>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>
>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> > > was a Jew.
>>
>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>
>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> > > wonder why?
>>
>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>
>>==============================================
>>Phillips
>>
>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>Heydrich,
>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>thaat
>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>===========
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>
>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>
>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>
>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>
>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>
>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>
>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>
>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>Zyclon
>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>that
>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>ask
>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>That
>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>place,
>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>
>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>idiots of
>>>>scp.
>>
>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>
>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>WWII by
>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>
>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>at their minds. 
>>
>>
>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>
>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>
>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>
>>>The Kastner Case
>>>
>>>                              
>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>involving
>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>
>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>and
>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>>                              The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>number is
>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>keep
>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>can
>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>of 
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>                                The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>deportations...these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>would
>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>'new
>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>of
>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>Kastner's
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>minute
>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>truth -
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>good
>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>his
>>>statements." 
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>> 
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>the 
>>>name 
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>court -
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>                        
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>found
>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>
>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>end of
>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>Jews
>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>from a
>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>Hungary
>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others....
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>an
>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>few -
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>etc. -
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>certainty
>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>a
>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>                         
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>the 
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>in
>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
Tavish II) wrote:

>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>Communists and who they were!
>
>Look:
>
>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>
>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>
>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>Results and Prospects.
>
>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>Committee.
>
>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>revolution......
>
>Above found at:
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>
>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>
>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>up and kill Jews."
>
>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>
>said!>
>
>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>
>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>
>Try also:
>
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>
>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>Try:
>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>
>which states:
>
>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>Architect of the Red Army too!
>
>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>
>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>
>Consider this:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>Russian Bolshevik party.
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>824-827).
>
>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>
>Here is the link:
>
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>You will run across this:
>
>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>
>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>
>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>this exhibit:
>
>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>
>You will see as an opener the following:
>
>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>support for the Soviet war effort.
>
>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>
>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>
>Footnote:
>
>The BUND:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>III, pp 824-827).
>
>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>
>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>Jewish "Bund." 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>
>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>                I will find all credible sites
>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>                Till the next installment!



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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

-88-


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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>working for Hitler??
>>
>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>> > sperati wrote:
>>
>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> > > North Shore News
>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>
>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>> > > Doug Collins
>>
>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>
>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>
>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> > > alive.
>>
>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> > > documents in the process.
>>
>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>
>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> > > was a Jew.
>>
>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>
>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> > > wonder why?
>>
>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>
>>==============================================
>>Phillips
>>
>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>Heydrich,
>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>thaat
>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>===========
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>
>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>
>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>
>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>
>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>
>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>
>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>
>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>Zyclon
>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>that
>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>ask
>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>That
>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>place,
>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>
>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>idiots of
>>>>scp.
>>
>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>
>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>WWII by
>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>
>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>at their minds. 
>>
>>
>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>
>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
 wrote:

>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>
>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>
>>>The Kastner Case
>>>
>>>                              
>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>involving
>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>
>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>and
>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>>                              The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>number is
>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>keep
>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>can
>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>of 
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>                                The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>deportations...these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>would
>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>'new
>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>of
>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>Kastner's
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>minute
>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>truth -
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>good
>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>his
>>>statements." 
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>> 
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>the 
>>>name 
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>court -
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>
>>>                        
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>found
>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>
>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>end of
>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>Jews
>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>from a
>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>Hungary
>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others....
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>an
>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>few -
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>etc. -
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>certainty
>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>a
>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>                         
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>the 
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>in
>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>



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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

-88-


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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:

>Translated from Polish:

>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.

>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>Israel to extradite Morel.
>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.

>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>Poland).
>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>big. 

>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>again came back to Poland. 
>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>He should.....

>Translated by Janusz Styber




On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:10:35 +0200, Eugeniusz
 wrote:

>LDenterint wrote:

>> Spogladajac inteligentnie na swiat, nie sposob  nie byc," kaprawym antyzydem."
>> 
>>                           Odrzanski
>> 
>> ps.jest moja powinnoscia wobec Polski i swiata, likwidowac wsrod  Zydow; dobre
>> zlodziejskie samopoczucie
>
>
>He, he, he, Odrzanski cytuje "Main Kampf" - swoja ulubiona lekture.
>
>Eugeniusz
>



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:17 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grand  wrote:
>
>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>be.
>
>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>"All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren't
>>counted by any census - simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>anybody who couldn't present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>million? We will never know."
>
>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>persons died--e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>sperati wrote: 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
> 
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
> 
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
> 
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
> 
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> 
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>
>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:30:21, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??


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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:00:03 GMT, yakuza@banzai.com wrote:

>In fact there were many JEWS in the Nazi military!!!
>
>
>On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote:
>
>>Yesss!
>>They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote in message
>><35322460.473C@mail.earthlink.net>...
>>|irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote in message
>>|<352FEAF0.4527@mail.earthlink.net>...
>>|>Dear Southeast Asians,
>>|>  I have read your posts with great interest re Israel and Islam.
>>|>  Judaism is the mother religion of Christianity and Islam. We Jews call
>>|>ourselves the Chosen People in our religious books because we feel we
>>|>have been chosen by God to spread the ideas of Peace and Justice to the
>>|>world.
>>|
>>|
>>|Chosen people? Well Jews are chosen to be the Fascist condemned people
>>|by
>>|God...
>>
>
>From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>
>
>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>



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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
wrote:

>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>jewish contrived wars,

>------------Reply Separator----------------
>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
> wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>death camp of Auschwitz. 

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>and the crosses from the
>sensitive site. 

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>dog attempts to better
>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>the country and Jewish
>groups. 

>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>she added. 

>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable. 

>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 

>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>the site. 

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>of the complex. 

>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau. 

>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>nationalist uproar. 

>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists. 

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>Poles died, not be
>forgotten. 

>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>remain and all new crosses
>be removed. 

>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>negotiated. 

>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.'' 

>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>to provoke the Jewish
>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>``But I don't see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>about the papal cross at
>the moment.'' 

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora. 

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold. 

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>frequently. 

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>extermination campaign. 

>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.'' 

>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are 
>also on the agenda. 

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>prisoners died and where
>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>wiping out most of
>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 

>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska. 

>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 

>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>controversies will be with
>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>leader of Poland's tiny
>Jewish community.


Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

-88-


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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:17 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grand  wrote:
>
>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>be.
>
>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>"All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren't
>>counted by any census - simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>anybody who couldn't present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>million? We will never know."
>
>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>persons died--e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>sperati wrote: 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
> 
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
> 
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
> 
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
> 
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> 
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>
>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:17 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grand  wrote:
>
>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>be.
>
>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>"All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren't
>>counted by any census - simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>anybody who couldn't present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>million? We will never know."
>
>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>persons died--e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>sperati wrote: 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
> 
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
> 
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
> 
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
> 
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> 
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>
>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:00:03 GMT, yakuza@banzai.com wrote:

>In fact there were many JEWS in the Nazi military!!!
>
>
>On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote:
>
>>Yesss!
>>They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote in message
>><35322460.473C@mail.earthlink.net>...
>>|irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote in message
>>|<352FEAF0.4527@mail.earthlink.net>...
>>|>Dear Southeast Asians,
>>|>  I have read your posts with great interest re Israel and Islam.
>>|>  Judaism is the mother religion of Christianity and Islam. We Jews call
>>|>ourselves the Chosen People in our religious books because we feel we
>>|>have been chosen by God to spread the ideas of Peace and Justice to the
>>|>world.
>>|
>>|
>>|Chosen people? Well Jews are chosen to be the Fascist condemned people
>>|by
>>|God...
>>
>
>From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>
>
>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>



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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:

>>JEWISH NAZIS!

>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.

>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.

>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.

>>Harold.

>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!

>article follows

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote;

>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes:

>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.

>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!

>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.

>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43

>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!

>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]

>                         ____________________________

>>>> Or how about this?

>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.

>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''

>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

>>>> Sources:
 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters

>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army

>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times

>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.

>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]

>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html

>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.

>>****************************************************************************************

>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...

>>cheers,          PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!



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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:

>>JEWISH NAZIS!

>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.

>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.

>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.

>>Harold.

>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!

>article follows

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote;

>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes:

>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.

>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!

>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.

>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43

>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!

>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]

>                         ____________________________

>>>> Or how about this?

>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.

>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''

>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

>>>> Sources:
 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters

>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army

>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times

>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.

>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]

>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html

>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.

>>****************************************************************************************

>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...

>>cheers,          PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:31:45, NSWPP  wrote:
>Armed Citizens- 1920s Germany-- 
>Jewish vs Gentile Views & Events of the Day!

>Let us compare the two views and what was occurring in
>1920s Germany along with a lesson that we should know today!
>
>                        * * * * *
>
>Below is the Jewish view of 1920s Germany and armed citizens!
>
>How It Happened- What It Means THE HOLOCAUST YEARS: SOCIETY
>ON TRIAL In cooperation with the Anti-Defamation League of
>B'nai B'rith Bantam Books 12191-X copyright 1978 by B'nai B'rith
>Chapter 29 THE [German] THIRD REICH IN PERSPECTIVE by Gertrude
>Noar [Starting with the first paragraph on page 104 of the
>paperback edition.]
>        The Weimar Republic proclaimed by the Social Democrats
>at the end of 1918 was established quite half-heartedly, as it
>were, by default. It was born out of defeat in war and not out
>of a triumph of democratic sentiment. And indeed the old Junker
>landowning and military class remained very much alive and
>powerful. Although the Weimar Constitution was a model liberal
>and democratic document, the Republic rested on shaky foundations
>so long as it failed to DISARM and defeat all those hostile
>classes and groups which were biding their time and merely
>tolerating a democratic regime: the feudal Junker landlords and
>upper castes, the General Staff and military caste, the
>industrial magnates [big business], and the heads of the
>Prussian bureaucracy....
>        Almost immediately after the end of the war, reactionary
>groups began to clamor that the army had not been defeated by the
>Allies at the front, but had been "stabbed in the back" at home
>by democrats and socialists....
>        Armed bands of terrorists and freebooters
>assassinated liberals, democrats and socialists, and supported
>attempts to overthrow the government. The conservative and
>reactionary groups, the ever-powerful Prussian Junkers, army
>and big business, who had only tolerated the Republic, were
>now prepared to bury it.
>[Notice how the Jews malign and compare conservatives to
>reactionaries while bashing big business. From just reading
>the above can you see why militias and firearms are under
>such an attack now!? These are their words and words mean
>things.]
>
>
>Now I present a historical perspective of how a Gentile 
>historian chronicled the events of the day.
>
>The Gentile view:
>
>From the volumes authored by John Toland called Adolf Hitler pub.
>Doubleday Two Volumes with supplemental book called Hitler-
>The Pictorial Documentary Of His Life , Doubleday 1978
>ISBN: 0-385-04546-8
>
>From The Pictorial Documentary on page 17 we read: "At the end of
>November 1918, Hitler left Pasewalk hospital and headed for
>Munich. He must have passed through Berlin, which was in the hands
>of the left-wing Spartacists. Free Corps troops, veterans of the
>Great War shared with Hitler the shame of surrender and rising
>Communism, marched into Berlin, where most of the government
>buildings were occupied by the Spartacists, and crushed the Red
>centers of resistance. Berlin- eventually all of Germany- would
>probably have gone Communist but for the Free Corps [citizen
>militia], who also murdered the Spartacist leaders, including
>[Jew] Rosa "Red Rose" Luxemberg. In Munich Hitler found himself
>in the new Bavarian Socialist Republic. Its leader, [Jew] Kurt
>Eisner, appeared to be the very model of a revolutionary and the
>tool of Moscow... The March Communist revolution in Hungary,
>led by [Jew] Bela Kun [Cohen], inspired the one in Munich that
>April. In retaliation for the murders of workers by attacking
>Free Corps troops, the Reds slaughtered some of their hostages.
>On May Day Free Corps troops marched into Munich to the cheers
>of the relieved citizenry. In vengeance these troops randomly
>executed more than a thousand so-called Reds." Note the Free
>Corps was known also as Freikorps and was private armed citizens.
>Remember the German Government was disarmed as a military power
>by the Treaty of Versailles. 
>
>Comments in brackets [ ] were mine and did not appear in the book.
>
>Given the insights from the above book is it any wonder that our
>socialist Jews should fear an armed citizen militia in the
>United States? Jews Jerrold Nadler and Charles Schumer are
>probably well aware of what happened to their comrades in 1920s
>Germany and probably want to make sure the same won't happen
>here. {Armed Gentiles can stave Communist Jews! History proves
>it!}
>
>Now, as promised, a capsule of the events in 1920s Germany as
>documented by historians. Proof that German civilians were
>under a "communist attack" so to speak!
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=227026569
>Subject: 
>Communist Agitation in 1920s Germany
>Date: 
>Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:25 -0600
>From: 
>Doc Tavish 
>
>Hello folks,
>        Doc Tavish here. I wish to show people what life was like in
>Germany just before the rise of Nazism. Ask yourselves what condition
>society must have been in for Nazism to be born and take hold. Here in
>America at the moment we have a trial starting concerning the bombing
>of one federal building. Needless to say all American citizens were
>outraged with the deaths of ~168 lives being lost! Can you imagine the
>outrage a society would feel if this were to be taking place in more
>than one city and more lives being lost? Let us consider the terrorism
>that was being waged against Germany by history's agitators
>extraordinary!
>
>All material is from the book Indictment by Dorothy Stuart-Russell and
>is cross noted with other sources which will be denoted.
>
>Indictment may be obtained from:
>Omni Press, P.O. Box 900566, Palmdale, CA 93590
>as #556 Indictment for $3.95 plus $2.00 shipping
>(Foreign is $4.00 more. Get their catalog and select
>something else too, to make the extra worthwhile.)
>Disclaimer: Doc Tavish profits NOT with any purchase from Omni!
>
>Chapter Fourteen
>Germany and Communist Aggression
>
>May 1, 1915 Liebknecht [Jew] declared an international communist
>proletarian class war as the socialist aim of the hour.
>
>1917 January & February, strikes organized to weaken the home front
>(Germany) which were fomented by the Spartakists in the Ruhr.
>March, strikes fomented in Hamburg and Bremen
>April, strikes in Kiel, Braunschweig, Berlin, Leipzig, Hanover, and
>Dresden.
>August, a naval mutiny in Willhelmshaven
>December, a letter from Lenin to the Spartakist group urging his
>comrades in Berlin to attack world imperialism decisively.
>
>1918 The communists formed worker's and soldier's councils in 24
>cities and by December, street fighting broke out in Berlin, organized
>by the Polish Communist journalist Radek-Sobelsohn (a Jew). The result
>was 100 dead.
>
>1919 February, Bremen fell into the hands of the Spartakists, general
>strikes in Elberfeld and Bochum, and a Red Army formed with its own
>artillery.
>March, hundreds of people died in communist inspired street fighting.
>April, a communist government came into power in Munich. [Jew Kurt
>Eisner had actually forcibly seized city hall as documented in the War
>Against Jews by Lucy Dawidowicz and also Adolf Hitler by John Toland.]
>
>1920 March, a communist uprising in the Ruhr in which 208 German
>soldiers died and 578 were wounded.
>April, under the leadership of Max Hoelz a Russian terrorist, villages
>in the Vogtland district were pillaged and burned.
>October, a communist riot in Hamburg with 17 people killed and 69
>wounded.
>[I Was Stalin's Agent by W. G. Krivitsky also states some of the
>above.]
>
>1921 March, Bela Kun (a Jew) ordered to Germany by Zinoviev (also a
>Jew) with instructions to German communists: There is a revolutionary
>situation in Germany. The Communist Party must seize power.
>March 22, Communists seized the city administration buildings in
>Hamburg, Leipzig, Dresden, Chemnitz and other cities of Central
>Germany. They attacked court houses, city halls, public banks and
>police headquarters. The official communist newspaper Die Rote Fahne
>openly called for revolution. 
>Max Hoelz -mentioned under April 1920- arrived in the Mansfield copper
>mining district to take charge of operations. A series of bombing
>outrages took place throughout Germany and the Government recognized
>Hoelz's expert hand.
>
>From John Toland about bomb throwing and the Jewishness of it:
>The Jewishness of Kurt Eisner is declared 
>by John Toland in his book, Adolf Hitler  
>published by Doubleday & Company, Inc., 
>Garden City, New York. Mr. Toland adds
>(page 76) : "In Munich another insurrection 
>broke out on November 7. It was led by Kurt 
>Eisner, a small elderly Jew wearing a black 
>floppy hat which, large as it was, couldn't 
>contain a shock of wild hair. Epically untidy, 
>he was a living cartoon of the bomb-throwing 
>Red." Mr. Toland once again speaks of 
>revolutionaries and Munich on page 84:
>"Munich too was on the verge of another 
>revolution, this one inspired by a coup in 
>Budapest. On March 22 news arrived that a 
>popular front of Socialists and Communists 
>had seized control of Hungary in the name
>of the councils of workers, soldiers and 
>peasants. A Hungarian Soviet Republic was 
>announced under the leadership of an unknown, 
>Bela Kun. A Jew himself, twenty five of his 
>thirty-two commissars were also Jews, provoking 
>the London Times to characterize the regime 
>as 'the Jewish Mafia.'"
>
>          *   *   *   *
>
>1921 continued
>March 24, workers at the nitrogen plant in Leune arrived with rifles
>and hand grenades and barricaded themselves inside the factory.
>
>To be continued!
>
>There you have it folks, what the holo huggers don't want you to know.
>They wish to show the Germans of the 1920s as just vicious people with
>an anti-Semitic bent instead of people that were tired of war and
>domestic terrorism. Many fine books detail the history of Germany
>before the rise of Nazism- I invite you to read some.
>
>Doc Tavish
>
>The lesson for today- We have the same forces at work within our
>society today and too many people are unaware of it!
>
>i.e.
>
>Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish
>
>Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI)
>Staff:                32
>Founding Chair:       Nelson T.  "Pete" Shields, III
>Chair:                Sarah Brady
>President:            James Guest
>Treasurer:            Mark Ingram
>Secretary:            Lois Hess
>
>Board of Directors:
>David Birenbaum [Jew]
>Carl Bogus
>John Corderman [Jew]
>Lee Fisher  [Jew]
>John Hechinger
>Larry Lowenstein [Jew]
>John Phillips
>Helen Raiser
>Maurice Rosenblatt [Jew]
>Jeanne Shields
>Odile Stern [Jew]
>Edward O. Welles
>
>[Jews are only 3% of America's population BUT  half
>of HCI's board are Jews! Remember that these are the people
>that want your guns!]
>
>In March 1995 HCI began a "Campaign to Protect Sane Gun
>Laws," listing these organizations as "Campaign
>Partners," for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal
>the Brady Act and the Clinton "assault weapons" ban:
>[Note that the Brady Law was crafted by a Jew- Charles
>Schumer and the "assault weapons" ban was crafted by two
>Jews- Senator Dianne Feinstein and Charles Schumer. What a
>coincidence having all of these Jews involved in disarming
>the American populace. It should make you wonder what their
>real agenda is!]
>
>American Jewish Committee [Jew}
>American Jewish Congress [Jew]
>American Medical Association
>Americans for Democratic Action
>Anti-Defamation League [Jew]
>B'nai B'rith [Jew]
>Central Conference of American Rabbis [Jew]
>Children's Defense Fund
>Coalition to Stop Gun Violence [Jew -See below]
>Hadassah [Jew]
>Jewish Labor Committee [Jew]
>Nat'l Ass'n for the Advancement of Colored People
>Nat'l Council of Jewish Women [Jew]
>Nat'l Education Association
>Nat'l Organization for Women
>Union of American Hebrew Congregations [Jew]
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Educational Fund to End Handgun Violence (EFEHV)
>Director:  Josh(ua) Horwitz [Jew]
>Incorporated in 1978 as an "educational" spin-off to
>the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the EFEHV is
>supported by private donations and foundation grants.
>The fund distributes anti-gun "research" on handgun
>violence, firearms marketing and production, and
>firearms design.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Violence Policy Center (VPC)
>Executive Director:   Josh(ua) Sugarmann [Jew]
>The Violence Policy Center is the new name of the New
>Right Watch (NRW), a non-profit group that "researched"
>what it perceived as a new right-wing American political
>movement.  NRW focused its attack on semi-automatic
>firearms with two releases:  "Assault Weapons and
>Accessories in America" (1988), a joint effort with
>EFEHV, and "Assault Weapons:  Analysis, New Research,
>and Legislation" (1989).  Funding for New Right Watch
>was received from individual and foundation grants. VPC is
>a non-profit national "educational" foundation that
>proposes firearms restrictions measures to reduce violence
>in America. VPC's Executive Director, Josh Sugarmann,
>formerly the Executive Director of the New Right Watch
>and, previously, with the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,
>authored a book attacking the NRA, "NRA: Money, Firepower,
>and Fear" (1992).
>
>Please note: The National Coalition to Ban Handguns was
>another Jewish organization to gut the 2nd Amendment- it
>is now called Handgun Control Inc. and has Goy Sarah Brady
>as its public face!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Please don't bring up Aaron Zelman and his JPFO because out
>of all the Jews he is but a voice crying in the wilderness.
>He is outnumbered many times by his very anti-gun Jewish
>brethren. I give Zelman credit for his courage to speak out
>and I will not condemn him!
>----
>"The Russian (Bolshevik) Revolution of the early 20th century 
>will overthrow the Czarist government and it will be led by a 
>disproportionate number of Jews." JewishAmerica.COM
>http://www.jewishamerica.com/TimeLine/haskala.htm
>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=368649052
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>role model???
>>
>>
>>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> Positive Jewish role models
>>> 
>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant.  Whatever
>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>> > -- crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>> > whatever.
>>> =========
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email.  I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>> signature.
>>> 
>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>> Yes, it is hardly significant.  The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>> Ukrainians and Germans.  We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>> 
>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over.  (And yes I am jelous of it
>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>> 
>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>> martyrology.  The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>> by Israeli archeologists.  It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>> helping Jews.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>> 
>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>> 
>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>> many others.  My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>> Rubin.
>>> ------------
>>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI 
>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>>> > >
>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In article <342291F3.2133@mindspring.com>,  
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>>> > which
>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.
>>> > Their
>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of
>>> > these
>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>>> > with
>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > > > |> education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war
>>> > questionaries.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>>> > 489
>>> > > > |> of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>>> > fired
>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > > > |> closed.
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> > > > |longer or die now!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Herman
>>> > > >   Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>>> > Polack,
>>> > > >   Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>> > > >   guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>>> > and
>>> > > >   other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>>> > community
>>> > > >   not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>>> > unless
>>> > > >   they happen to be jews.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>>> > behind
>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>>> > facing
>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>>> > into
>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > >   What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>> > > >   there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>>> > them
>>> > > >   with any nationality?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   --Rostyk
>>> > > ===============
>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>> > > Research costs $$$.  Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>> > > starters.
>>> > >
>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews.  I can make out
>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>> > > ----------
>>> > > J



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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:

>>JEWISH NAZIS!

>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.

>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.

>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.

>>Harold.

>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!

>article follows

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote;

>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes:

>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.

>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!

>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.

>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43

>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!

>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]

>                         ____________________________

>>>> Or how about this?

>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.

>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''

>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

>>>> Sources:
 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters

>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army

>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times

>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.

>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]

>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html

>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.

>>****************************************************************************************

>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...

>>cheers,          PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:

>>JEWISH NAZIS!

>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.

>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.

>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.

>>Harold.

>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!

>article follows

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote;

>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes:

>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.

>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!

>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.

>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43

>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!

>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]

>                         ____________________________

>>>> Or how about this?

>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.

>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''

>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

>>>> Sources:
 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters

>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army

>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times

>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.

>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]

>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html

>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.

>>****************************************************************************************

>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...

>>cheers,          PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!



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Further to the lawsuits against canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.



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Further to the lawsuits against canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.



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Further to the lawsuits against canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.



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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:

>Translated from Polish:

>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.

>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>Israel to extradite Morel.
>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.

>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>Poland).
>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>big. 

>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>again came back to Poland. 
>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>He should.....

>Translated by Janusz Styber




On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:10:35 +0200, Eugeniusz
 wrote:

>LDenterint wrote:

>> Spogladajac inteligentnie na swiat, nie sposob  nie byc," kaprawym antyzydem."
>> 
>>                           Odrzanski
>> 
>> ps.jest moja powinnoscia wobec Polski i swiata, likwidowac wsrod  Zydow; dobre
>> zlodziejskie samopoczucie
>
>
>He, he, he, Odrzanski cytuje "Main Kampf" - swoja ulubiona lekture.
>
>Eugeniusz
>



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:31:45, NSWPP  wrote:
>Armed Citizens- 1920s Germany-- 
>Jewish vs Gentile Views & Events of the Day!

>Let us compare the two views and what was occurring in
>1920s Germany along with a lesson that we should know today!
>
>                        * * * * *
>
>Below is the Jewish view of 1920s Germany and armed citizens!
>
>How It Happened- What It Means THE HOLOCAUST YEARS: SOCIETY
>ON TRIAL In cooperation with the Anti-Defamation League of
>B'nai B'rith Bantam Books 12191-X copyright 1978 by B'nai B'rith
>Chapter 29 THE [German] THIRD REICH IN PERSPECTIVE by Gertrude
>Noar [Starting with the first paragraph on page 104 of the
>paperback edition.]
>        The Weimar Republic proclaimed by the Social Democrats
>at the end of 1918 was established quite half-heartedly, as it
>were, by default. It was born out of defeat in war and not out
>of a triumph of democratic sentiment. And indeed the old Junker
>landowning and military class remained very much alive and
>powerful. Although the Weimar Constitution was a model liberal
>and democratic document, the Republic rested on shaky foundations
>so long as it failed to DISARM and defeat all those hostile
>classes and groups which were biding their time and merely
>tolerating a democratic regime: the feudal Junker landlords and
>upper castes, the General Staff and military caste, the
>industrial magnates [big business], and the heads of the
>Prussian bureaucracy....
>        Almost immediately after the end of the war, reactionary
>groups began to clamor that the army had not been defeated by the
>Allies at the front, but had been "stabbed in the back" at home
>by democrats and socialists....
>        Armed bands of terrorists and freebooters
>assassinated liberals, democrats and socialists, and supported
>attempts to overthrow the government. The conservative and
>reactionary groups, the ever-powerful Prussian Junkers, army
>and big business, who had only tolerated the Republic, were
>now prepared to bury it.
>[Notice how the Jews malign and compare conservatives to
>reactionaries while bashing big business. From just reading
>the above can you see why militias and firearms are under
>such an attack now!? These are their words and words mean
>things.]
>
>
>Now I present a historical perspective of how a Gentile 
>historian chronicled the events of the day.
>
>The Gentile view:
>
>From the volumes authored by John Toland called Adolf Hitler pub.
>Doubleday Two Volumes with supplemental book called Hitler-
>The Pictorial Documentary Of His Life , Doubleday 1978
>ISBN: 0-385-04546-8
>
>From The Pictorial Documentary on page 17 we read: "At the end of
>November 1918, Hitler left Pasewalk hospital and headed for
>Munich. He must have passed through Berlin, which was in the hands
>of the left-wing Spartacists. Free Corps troops, veterans of the
>Great War shared with Hitler the shame of surrender and rising
>Communism, marched into Berlin, where most of the government
>buildings were occupied by the Spartacists, and crushed the Red
>centers of resistance. Berlin- eventually all of Germany- would
>probably have gone Communist but for the Free Corps [citizen
>militia], who also murdered the Spartacist leaders, including
>[Jew] Rosa "Red Rose" Luxemberg. In Munich Hitler found himself
>in the new Bavarian Socialist Republic. Its leader, [Jew] Kurt
>Eisner, appeared to be the very model of a revolutionary and the
>tool of Moscow... The March Communist revolution in Hungary,
>led by [Jew] Bela Kun [Cohen], inspired the one in Munich that
>April. In retaliation for the murders of workers by attacking
>Free Corps troops, the Reds slaughtered some of their hostages.
>On May Day Free Corps troops marched into Munich to the cheers
>of the relieved citizenry. In vengeance these troops randomly
>executed more than a thousand so-called Reds." Note the Free
>Corps was known also as Freikorps and was private armed citizens.
>Remember the German Government was disarmed as a military power
>by the Treaty of Versailles. 
>
>Comments in brackets [ ] were mine and did not appear in the book.
>
>Given the insights from the above book is it any wonder that our
>socialist Jews should fear an armed citizen militia in the
>United States? Jews Jerrold Nadler and Charles Schumer are
>probably well aware of what happened to their comrades in 1920s
>Germany and probably want to make sure the same won't happen
>here. {Armed Gentiles can stave Communist Jews! History proves
>it!}
>
>Now, as promised, a capsule of the events in 1920s Germany as
>documented by historians. Proof that German civilians were
>under a "communist attack" so to speak!
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=227026569
>Subject: 
>Communist Agitation in 1920s Germany
>Date: 
>Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:25 -0600
>From: 
>Doc Tavish 
>
>Hello folks,
>        Doc Tavish here. I wish to show people what life was like in
>Germany just before the rise of Nazism. Ask yourselves what condition
>society must have been in for Nazism to be born and take hold. Here in
>America at the moment we have a trial starting concerning the bombing
>of one federal building. Needless to say all American citizens were
>outraged with the deaths of ~168 lives being lost! Can you imagine the
>outrage a society would feel if this were to be taking place in more
>than one city and more lives being lost? Let us consider the terrorism
>that was being waged against Germany by history's agitators
>extraordinary!
>
>All material is from the book Indictment by Dorothy Stuart-Russell and
>is cross noted with other sources which will be denoted.
>
>Indictment may be obtained from:
>Omni Press, P.O. Box 900566, Palmdale, CA 93590
>as #556 Indictment for $3.95 plus $2.00 shipping
>(Foreign is $4.00 more. Get their catalog and select
>something else too, to make the extra worthwhile.)
>Disclaimer: Doc Tavish profits NOT with any purchase from Omni!
>
>Chapter Fourteen
>Germany and Communist Aggression
>
>May 1, 1915 Liebknecht [Jew] declared an international communist
>proletarian class war as the socialist aim of the hour.
>
>1917 January & February, strikes organized to weaken the home front
>(Germany) which were fomented by the Spartakists in the Ruhr.
>March, strikes fomented in Hamburg and Bremen
>April, strikes in Kiel, Braunschweig, Berlin, Leipzig, Hanover, and
>Dresden.
>August, a naval mutiny in Willhelmshaven
>December, a letter from Lenin to the Spartakist group urging his
>comrades in Berlin to attack world imperialism decisively.
>
>1918 The communists formed worker's and soldier's councils in 24
>cities and by December, street fighting broke out in Berlin, organized
>by the Polish Communist journalist Radek-Sobelsohn (a Jew). The result
>was 100 dead.
>
>1919 February, Bremen fell into the hands of the Spartakists, general
>strikes in Elberfeld and Bochum, and a Red Army formed with its own
>artillery.
>March, hundreds of people died in communist inspired street fighting.
>April, a communist government came into power in Munich. [Jew Kurt
>Eisner had actually forcibly seized city hall as documented in the War
>Against Jews by Lucy Dawidowicz and also Adolf Hitler by John Toland.]
>
>1920 March, a communist uprising in the Ruhr in which 208 German
>soldiers died and 578 were wounded.
>April, under the leadership of Max Hoelz a Russian terrorist, villages
>in the Vogtland district were pillaged and burned.
>October, a communist riot in Hamburg with 17 people killed and 69
>wounded.
>[I Was Stalin's Agent by W. G. Krivitsky also states some of the
>above.]
>
>1921 March, Bela Kun (a Jew) ordered to Germany by Zinoviev (also a
>Jew) with instructions to German communists: There is a revolutionary
>situation in Germany. The Communist Party must seize power.
>March 22, Communists seized the city administration buildings in
>Hamburg, Leipzig, Dresden, Chemnitz and other cities of Central
>Germany. They attacked court houses, city halls, public banks and
>police headquarters. The official communist newspaper Die Rote Fahne
>openly called for revolution. 
>Max Hoelz -mentioned under April 1920- arrived in the Mansfield copper
>mining district to take charge of operations. A series of bombing
>outrages took place throughout Germany and the Government recognized
>Hoelz's expert hand.
>
>From John Toland about bomb throwing and the Jewishness of it:
>The Jewishness of Kurt Eisner is declared 
>by John Toland in his book, Adolf Hitler  
>published by Doubleday & Company, Inc., 
>Garden City, New York. Mr. Toland adds
>(page 76) : "In Munich another insurrection 
>broke out on November 7. It was led by Kurt 
>Eisner, a small elderly Jew wearing a black 
>floppy hat which, large as it was, couldn't 
>contain a shock of wild hair. Epically untidy, 
>he was a living cartoon of the bomb-throwing 
>Red." Mr. Toland once again speaks of 
>revolutionaries and Munich on page 84:
>"Munich too was on the verge of another 
>revolution, this one inspired by a coup in 
>Budapest. On March 22 news arrived that a 
>popular front of Socialists and Communists 
>had seized control of Hungary in the name
>of the councils of workers, soldiers and 
>peasants. A Hungarian Soviet Republic was 
>announced under the leadership of an unknown, 
>Bela Kun. A Jew himself, twenty five of his 
>thirty-two commissars were also Jews, provoking 
>the London Times to characterize the regime 
>as 'the Jewish Mafia.'"
>
>          *   *   *   *
>
>1921 continued
>March 24, workers at the nitrogen plant in Leune arrived with rifles
>and hand grenades and barricaded themselves inside the factory.
>
>To be continued!
>
>There you have it folks, what the holo huggers don't want you to know.
>They wish to show the Germans of the 1920s as just vicious people with
>an anti-Semitic bent instead of people that were tired of war and
>domestic terrorism. Many fine books detail the history of Germany
>before the rise of Nazism- I invite you to read some.
>
>Doc Tavish
>
>The lesson for today- We have the same forces at work within our
>society today and too many people are unaware of it!
>
>i.e.
>
>Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish
>
>Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI)
>Staff:                32
>Founding Chair:       Nelson T.  "Pete" Shields, III
>Chair:                Sarah Brady
>President:            James Guest
>Treasurer:            Mark Ingram
>Secretary:            Lois Hess
>
>Board of Directors:
>David Birenbaum [Jew]
>Carl Bogus
>John Corderman [Jew]
>Lee Fisher  [Jew]
>John Hechinger
>Larry Lowenstein [Jew]
>John Phillips
>Helen Raiser
>Maurice Rosenblatt [Jew]
>Jeanne Shields
>Odile Stern [Jew]
>Edward O. Welles
>
>[Jews are only 3% of America's population BUT  half
>of HCI's board are Jews! Remember that these are the people
>that want your guns!]
>
>In March 1995 HCI began a "Campaign to Protect Sane Gun
>Laws," listing these organizations as "Campaign
>Partners," for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal
>the Brady Act and the Clinton "assault weapons" ban:
>[Note that the Brady Law was crafted by a Jew- Charles
>Schumer and the "assault weapons" ban was crafted by two
>Jews- Senator Dianne Feinstein and Charles Schumer. What a
>coincidence having all of these Jews involved in disarming
>the American populace. It should make you wonder what their
>real agenda is!]
>
>American Jewish Committee [Jew}
>American Jewish Congress [Jew]
>American Medical Association
>Americans for Democratic Action
>Anti-Defamation League [Jew]
>B'nai B'rith [Jew]
>Central Conference of American Rabbis [Jew]
>Children's Defense Fund
>Coalition to Stop Gun Violence [Jew -See below]
>Hadassah [Jew]
>Jewish Labor Committee [Jew]
>Nat'l Ass'n for the Advancement of Colored People
>Nat'l Council of Jewish Women [Jew]
>Nat'l Education Association
>Nat'l Organization for Women
>Union of American Hebrew Congregations [Jew]
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Educational Fund to End Handgun Violence (EFEHV)
>Director:  Josh(ua) Horwitz [Jew]
>Incorporated in 1978 as an "educational" spin-off to
>the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the EFEHV is
>supported by private donations and foundation grants.
>The fund distributes anti-gun "research" on handgun
>violence, firearms marketing and production, and
>firearms design.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Violence Policy Center (VPC)
>Executive Director:   Josh(ua) Sugarmann [Jew]
>The Violence Policy Center is the new name of the New
>Right Watch (NRW), a non-profit group that "researched"
>what it perceived as a new right-wing American political
>movement.  NRW focused its attack on semi-automatic
>firearms with two releases:  "Assault Weapons and
>Accessories in America" (1988), a joint effort with
>EFEHV, and "Assault Weapons:  Analysis, New Research,
>and Legislation" (1989).  Funding for New Right Watch
>was received from individual and foundation grants. VPC is
>a non-profit national "educational" foundation that
>proposes firearms restrictions measures to reduce violence
>in America. VPC's Executive Director, Josh Sugarmann,
>formerly the Executive Director of the New Right Watch
>and, previously, with the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,
>authored a book attacking the NRA, "NRA: Money, Firepower,
>and Fear" (1992).
>
>Please note: The National Coalition to Ban Handguns was
>another Jewish organization to gut the 2nd Amendment- it
>is now called Handgun Control Inc. and has Goy Sarah Brady
>as its public face!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Please don't bring up Aaron Zelman and his JPFO because out
>of all the Jews he is but a voice crying in the wilderness.
>He is outnumbered many times by his very anti-gun Jewish
>brethren. I give Zelman credit for his courage to speak out
>and I will not condemn him!
>----
>"The Russian (Bolshevik) Revolution of the early 20th century 
>will overthrow the Czarist government and it will be led by a 
>disproportionate number of Jews." JewishAmerica.COM
>http://www.jewishamerica.com/TimeLine/haskala.htm
>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=368649052
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>role model???
>>
>>
>>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> Positive Jewish role models
>>> 
>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant.  Whatever
>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>> > -- crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>> > whatever.
>>> =========
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email.  I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>> signature.
>>> 
>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>> Yes, it is hardly significant.  The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>> Ukrainians and Germans.  We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>> 
>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over.  (And yes I am jelous of it
>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>> 
>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>> martyrology.  The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>> by Israeli archeologists.  It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>> helping Jews.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>> 
>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>> 
>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>> many others.  My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>> Rubin.
>>> ------------
>>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI 
>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>>> > >
>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In article <342291F3.2133@mindspring.com>,  
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>>> > which
>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.
>>> > Their
>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of
>>> > these
>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>>> > with
>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > > > |> education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war
>>> > questionaries.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>>> > 489
>>> > > > |> of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>>> > fired
>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > > > |> closed.
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> > > > |longer or die now!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Herman
>>> > > >   Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>>> > Polack,
>>> > > >   Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>> > > >   guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>>> > and
>>> > > >   other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>>> > community
>>> > > >   not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>>> > unless
>>> > > >   they happen to be jews.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>>> > behind
>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>>> > facing
>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>>> > into
>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > >   What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>> > > >   there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>>> > them
>>> > > >   with any nationality?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   --Rostyk
>>> > > ===============
>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>> > > Research costs $$$.  Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>> > > starters.
>>> > >
>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews.  I can make out
>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>> > > ----------
>>> > > J



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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:

> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." 
>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
>	Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg's study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don't count on
>it. It ain't happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
>	Intitially posted under "Super Jews in Hitler's Army".
>
>	              "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>
>                       L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>"A young American is 
>documenting the stories 
>of Hundreds of German 
>veterans of Jewish descent. 
>Many lost family to the 
>Holocaust while serving the 
>Nazi regime."
>
>LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man's land of Holocaust history.
>	Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews. 
>	'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.'
>	On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times ...
>	Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>"In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>
>	"This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
> 
>	Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany."
>
>[ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>	The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	"Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>
>[ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>	   		
>	"One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels."
>
>[ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
>	"'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
>	"... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters". 
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>"fighters". ]
>
>	"He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>
>[ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>
>	....
>
>	"In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..." 
>
>[ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are "officers". ]
>
>	....
>
>	"One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England ..."
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>"Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>
>	"Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>
>[ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>father" connection.]
>
>	....
>
>	"About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed."
>
>	[ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
>	(The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg's blurt. 
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]] 
>
>	"Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews."
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
>	"Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew... and he listened until morning"
> 
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ] 
>	  
>	So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
>	On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>     
>	It's funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.	
>
>	In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
>	Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
>	When looking at the picture of Rigg's, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
>	If ever Rigg's does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]] 



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On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:

>Translated from Polish:

>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.

>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>Israel to extradite Morel.
>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.

>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>Poland).
>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>big. 

>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>again came back to Poland. 
>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>He should.....

>Translated by Janusz Styber




On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:10:35 +0200, Eugeniusz
 wrote:

>LDenterint wrote:

>> Spogladajac inteligentnie na swiat, nie sposob  nie byc," kaprawym antyzydem."
>> 
>>                           Odrzanski
>> 
>> ps.jest moja powinnoscia wobec Polski i swiata, likwidowac wsrod  Zydow; dobre
>> zlodziejskie samopoczucie
>
>
>He, he, he, Odrzanski cytuje "Main Kampf" - swoja ulubiona lekture.
>
>Eugeniusz
>



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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:17 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grand  wrote:
>
>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>be.
>
>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>"All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren't
>>counted by any census - simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>anybody who couldn't present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>million? We will never know."
>
>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>persons died--e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>sperati wrote: 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
> 
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
> 
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
> 
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
> 
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> 
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>
>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:31:45, NSWPP  wrote:
>Armed Citizens- 1920s Germany-- 
>Jewish vs Gentile Views & Events of the Day!

>Let us compare the two views and what was occurring in
>1920s Germany along with a lesson that we should know today!
>
>                        * * * * *
>
>Below is the Jewish view of 1920s Germany and armed citizens!
>
>How It Happened- What It Means THE HOLOCAUST YEARS: SOCIETY
>ON TRIAL In cooperation with the Anti-Defamation League of
>B'nai B'rith Bantam Books 12191-X copyright 1978 by B'nai B'rith
>Chapter 29 THE [German] THIRD REICH IN PERSPECTIVE by Gertrude
>Noar [Starting with the first paragraph on page 104 of the
>paperback edition.]
>        The Weimar Republic proclaimed by the Social Democrats
>at the end of 1918 was established quite half-heartedly, as it
>were, by default. It was born out of defeat in war and not out
>of a triumph of democratic sentiment. And indeed the old Junker
>landowning and military class remained very much alive and
>powerful. Although the Weimar Constitution was a model liberal
>and democratic document, the Republic rested on shaky foundations
>so long as it failed to DISARM and defeat all those hostile
>classes and groups which were biding their time and merely
>tolerating a democratic regime: the feudal Junker landlords and
>upper castes, the General Staff and military caste, the
>industrial magnates [big business], and the heads of the
>Prussian bureaucracy....
>        Almost immediately after the end of the war, reactionary
>groups began to clamor that the army had not been defeated by the
>Allies at the front, but had been "stabbed in the back" at home
>by democrats and socialists....
>        Armed bands of terrorists and freebooters
>assassinated liberals, democrats and socialists, and supported
>attempts to overthrow the government. The conservative and
>reactionary groups, the ever-powerful Prussian Junkers, army
>and big business, who had only tolerated the Republic, were
>now prepared to bury it.
>[Notice how the Jews malign and compare conservatives to
>reactionaries while bashing big business. From just reading
>the above can you see why militias and firearms are under
>such an attack now!? These are their words and words mean
>things.]
>
>
>Now I present a historical perspective of how a Gentile 
>historian chronicled the events of the day.
>
>The Gentile view:
>
>From the volumes authored by John Toland called Adolf Hitler pub.
>Doubleday Two Volumes with supplemental book called Hitler-
>The Pictorial Documentary Of His Life , Doubleday 1978
>ISBN: 0-385-04546-8
>
>From The Pictorial Documentary on page 17 we read: "At the end of
>November 1918, Hitler left Pasewalk hospital and headed for
>Munich. He must have passed through Berlin, which was in the hands
>of the left-wing Spartacists. Free Corps troops, veterans of the
>Great War shared with Hitler the shame of surrender and rising
>Communism, marched into Berlin, where most of the government
>buildings were occupied by the Spartacists, and crushed the Red
>centers of resistance. Berlin- eventually all of Germany- would
>probably have gone Communist but for the Free Corps [citizen
>militia], who also murdered the Spartacist leaders, including
>[Jew] Rosa "Red Rose" Luxemberg. In Munich Hitler found himself
>in the new Bavarian Socialist Republic. Its leader, [Jew] Kurt
>Eisner, appeared to be the very model of a revolutionary and the
>tool of Moscow... The March Communist revolution in Hungary,
>led by [Jew] Bela Kun [Cohen], inspired the one in Munich that
>April. In retaliation for the murders of workers by attacking
>Free Corps troops, the Reds slaughtered some of their hostages.
>On May Day Free Corps troops marched into Munich to the cheers
>of the relieved citizenry. In vengeance these troops randomly
>executed more than a thousand so-called Reds." Note the Free
>Corps was known also as Freikorps and was private armed citizens.
>Remember the German Government was disarmed as a military power
>by the Treaty of Versailles. 
>
>Comments in brackets [ ] were mine and did not appear in the book.
>
>Given the insights from the above book is it any wonder that our
>socialist Jews should fear an armed citizen militia in the
>United States? Jews Jerrold Nadler and Charles Schumer are
>probably well aware of what happened to their comrades in 1920s
>Germany and probably want to make sure the same won't happen
>here. {Armed Gentiles can stave Communist Jews! History proves
>it!}
>
>Now, as promised, a capsule of the events in 1920s Germany as
>documented by historians. Proof that German civilians were
>under a "communist attack" so to speak!
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=227026569
>Subject: 
>Communist Agitation in 1920s Germany
>Date: 
>Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:25 -0600
>From: 
>Doc Tavish 
>
>Hello folks,
>        Doc Tavish here. I wish to show people what life was like in
>Germany just before the rise of Nazism. Ask yourselves what condition
>society must have been in for Nazism to be born and take hold. Here in
>America at the moment we have a trial starting concerning the bombing
>of one federal building. Needless to say all American citizens were
>outraged with the deaths of ~168 lives being lost! Can you imagine the
>outrage a society would feel if this were to be taking place in more
>than one city and more lives being lost? Let us consider the terrorism
>that was being waged against Germany by history's agitators
>extraordinary!
>
>All material is from the book Indictment by Dorothy Stuart-Russell and
>is cross noted with other sources which will be denoted.
>
>Indictment may be obtained from:
>Omni Press, P.O. Box 900566, Palmdale, CA 93590
>as #556 Indictment for $3.95 plus $2.00 shipping
>(Foreign is $4.00 more. Get their catalog and select
>something else too, to make the extra worthwhile.)
>Disclaimer: Doc Tavish profits NOT with any purchase from Omni!
>
>Chapter Fourteen
>Germany and Communist Aggression
>
>May 1, 1915 Liebknecht [Jew] declared an international communist
>proletarian class war as the socialist aim of the hour.
>
>1917 January & February, strikes organized to weaken the home front
>(Germany) which were fomented by the Spartakists in the Ruhr.
>March, strikes fomented in Hamburg and Bremen
>April, strikes in Kiel, Braunschweig, Berlin, Leipzig, Hanover, and
>Dresden.
>August, a naval mutiny in Willhelmshaven
>December, a letter from Lenin to the Spartakist group urging his
>comrades in Berlin to attack world imperialism decisively.
>
>1918 The communists formed worker's and soldier's councils in 24
>cities and by December, street fighting broke out in Berlin, organized
>by the Polish Communist journalist Radek-Sobelsohn (a Jew). The result
>was 100 dead.
>
>1919 February, Bremen fell into the hands of the Spartakists, general
>strikes in Elberfeld and Bochum, and a Red Army formed with its own
>artillery.
>March, hundreds of people died in communist inspired street fighting.
>April, a communist government came into power in Munich. [Jew Kurt
>Eisner had actually forcibly seized city hall as documented in the War
>Against Jews by Lucy Dawidowicz and also Adolf Hitler by John Toland.]
>
>1920 March, a communist uprising in the Ruhr in which 208 German
>soldiers died and 578 were wounded.
>April, under the leadership of Max Hoelz a Russian terrorist, villages
>in the Vogtland district were pillaged and burned.
>October, a communist riot in Hamburg with 17 people killed and 69
>wounded.
>[I Was Stalin's Agent by W. G. Krivitsky also states some of the
>above.]
>
>1921 March, Bela Kun (a Jew) ordered to Germany by Zinoviev (also a
>Jew) with instructions to German communists: There is a revolutionary
>situation in Germany. The Communist Party must seize power.
>March 22, Communists seized the city administration buildings in
>Hamburg, Leipzig, Dresden, Chemnitz and other cities of Central
>Germany. They attacked court houses, city halls, public banks and
>police headquarters. The official communist newspaper Die Rote Fahne
>openly called for revolution. 
>Max Hoelz -mentioned under April 1920- arrived in the Mansfield copper
>mining district to take charge of operations. A series of bombing
>outrages took place throughout Germany and the Government recognized
>Hoelz's expert hand.
>
>From John Toland about bomb throwing and the Jewishness of it:
>The Jewishness of Kurt Eisner is declared 
>by John Toland in his book, Adolf Hitler  
>published by Doubleday & Company, Inc., 
>Garden City, New York. Mr. Toland adds
>(page 76) : "In Munich another insurrection 
>broke out on November 7. It was led by Kurt 
>Eisner, a small elderly Jew wearing a black 
>floppy hat which, large as it was, couldn't 
>contain a shock of wild hair. Epically untidy, 
>he was a living cartoon of the bomb-throwing 
>Red." Mr. Toland once again speaks of 
>revolutionaries and Munich on page 84:
>"Munich too was on the verge of another 
>revolution, this one inspired by a coup in 
>Budapest. On March 22 news arrived that a 
>popular front of Socialists and Communists 
>had seized control of Hungary in the name
>of the councils of workers, soldiers and 
>peasants. A Hungarian Soviet Republic was 
>announced under the leadership of an unknown, 
>Bela Kun. A Jew himself, twenty five of his 
>thirty-two commissars were also Jews, provoking 
>the London Times to characterize the regime 
>as 'the Jewish Mafia.'"
>
>          *   *   *   *
>
>1921 continued
>March 24, workers at the nitrogen plant in Leune arrived with rifles
>and hand grenades and barricaded themselves inside the factory.
>
>To be continued!
>
>There you have it folks, what the holo huggers don't want you to know.
>They wish to show the Germans of the 1920s as just vicious people with
>an anti-Semitic bent instead of people that were tired of war and
>domestic terrorism. Many fine books detail the history of Germany
>before the rise of Nazism- I invite you to read some.
>
>Doc Tavish
>
>The lesson for today- We have the same forces at work within our
>society today and too many people are unaware of it!
>
>i.e.
>
>Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish
>
>Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI)
>Staff:                32
>Founding Chair:       Nelson T.  "Pete" Shields, III
>Chair:                Sarah Brady
>President:            James Guest
>Treasurer:            Mark Ingram
>Secretary:            Lois Hess
>
>Board of Directors:
>David Birenbaum [Jew]
>Carl Bogus
>John Corderman [Jew]
>Lee Fisher  [Jew]
>John Hechinger
>Larry Lowenstein [Jew]
>John Phillips
>Helen Raiser
>Maurice Rosenblatt [Jew]
>Jeanne Shields
>Odile Stern [Jew]
>Edward O. Welles
>
>[Jews are only 3% of America's population BUT  half
>of HCI's board are Jews! Remember that these are the people
>that want your guns!]
>
>In March 1995 HCI began a "Campaign to Protect Sane Gun
>Laws," listing these organizations as "Campaign
>Partners," for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal
>the Brady Act and the Clinton "assault weapons" ban:
>[Note that the Brady Law was crafted by a Jew- Charles
>Schumer and the "assault weapons" ban was crafted by two
>Jews- Senator Dianne Feinstein and Charles Schumer. What a
>coincidence having all of these Jews involved in disarming
>the American populace. It should make you wonder what their
>real agenda is!]
>
>American Jewish Committee [Jew}
>American Jewish Congress [Jew]
>American Medical Association
>Americans for Democratic Action
>Anti-Defamation League [Jew]
>B'nai B'rith [Jew]
>Central Conference of American Rabbis [Jew]
>Children's Defense Fund
>Coalition to Stop Gun Violence [Jew -See below]
>Hadassah [Jew]
>Jewish Labor Committee [Jew]
>Nat'l Ass'n for the Advancement of Colored People
>Nat'l Council of Jewish Women [Jew]
>Nat'l Education Association
>Nat'l Organization for Women
>Union of American Hebrew Congregations [Jew]
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Educational Fund to End Handgun Violence (EFEHV)
>Director:  Josh(ua) Horwitz [Jew]
>Incorporated in 1978 as an "educational" spin-off to
>the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the EFEHV is
>supported by private donations and foundation grants.
>The fund distributes anti-gun "research" on handgun
>violence, firearms marketing and production, and
>firearms design.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>The Violence Policy Center (VPC)
>Executive Director:   Josh(ua) Sugarmann [Jew]
>The Violence Policy Center is the new name of the New
>Right Watch (NRW), a non-profit group that "researched"
>what it perceived as a new right-wing American political
>movement.  NRW focused its attack on semi-automatic
>firearms with two releases:  "Assault Weapons and
>Accessories in America" (1988), a joint effort with
>EFEHV, and "Assault Weapons:  Analysis, New Research,
>and Legislation" (1989).  Funding for New Right Watch
>was received from individual and foundation grants. VPC is
>a non-profit national "educational" foundation that
>proposes firearms restrictions measures to reduce violence
>in America. VPC's Executive Director, Josh Sugarmann,
>formerly the Executive Director of the New Right Watch
>and, previously, with the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,
>authored a book attacking the NRA, "NRA: Money, Firepower,
>and Fear" (1992).
>
>Please note: The National Coalition to Ban Handguns was
>another Jewish organization to gut the 2nd Amendment- it
>is now called Handgun Control Inc. and has Goy Sarah Brady
>as its public face!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Please don't bring up Aaron Zelman and his JPFO because out
>of all the Jews he is but a voice crying in the wilderness.
>He is outnumbered many times by his very anti-gun Jewish
>brethren. I give Zelman credit for his courage to speak out
>and I will not condemn him!
>----
>"The Russian (Bolshevik) Revolution of the early 20th century 
>will overthrow the Czarist government and it will be led by a 
>disproportionate number of Jews." JewishAmerica.COM
>http://www.jewishamerica.com/TimeLine/haskala.htm
>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=368649052
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>role model???
>>
>>
>>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> Positive Jewish role models
>>> 
>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant.  Whatever
>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>> > -- crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>> > whatever.
>>> =========
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email.  I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>> signature.
>>> 
>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>> Yes, it is hardly significant.  The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>> Ukrainians and Germans.  We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>> 
>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over.  (And yes I am jelous of it
>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>> 
>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>> martyrology.  The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>> by Israeli archeologists.  It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>> helping Jews.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>> 
>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>> 
>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>> many others.  My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>> Rubin.
>>> ------------
>>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI 
>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>>> > >
>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In article <342291F3.2133@mindspring.com>,  
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>>> > which
>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.
>>> > Their
>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of
>>> > these
>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>>> > with
>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > > > |> education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war
>>> > questionaries.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>>> > 489
>>> > > > |> of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>>> > fired
>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > > > |> closed.
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> > > > |longer or die now!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Herman
>>> > > >   Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>>> > Polack,
>>> > > >   Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>> > > >   guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>>> > and
>>> > > >   other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>>> > community
>>> > > >   not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>>> > unless
>>> > > >   they happen to be jews.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>>> > behind
>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>>> > facing
>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>>> > into
>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > >   What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>> > > >   there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>>> > them
>>> > > >   with any nationality?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   --Rostyk
>>> > > ===============
>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>> > > Research costs $$$.  Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>> > > starters.
>>> > >
>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews.  I can make out
>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>> > > ----------
>>> > > J



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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:17 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grand  wrote:
>
>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>be.
>
>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>"All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren't
>>counted by any census - simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>anybody who couldn't present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>million? We will never know."
>
>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>persons died--e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>sperati wrote: 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
> 
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
> 
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
> 
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
> 
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
> 
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>
>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


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On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:42:47 +1000, Chris Lewis 
wrote:

>gaygoyken,
>
>Has this got ANYTHING to do with Australia?


If your ozzie Libeler can puiblish lists of supporters of One nation,
then in Australia you certainly do have a JEW problem!!!!


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On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 02:09:36 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 01:37:43 GMT, electriczen@nospam.bigfoot.com
>(Electric Zen) wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 01:02:26 GMT, billy_bob@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob
>>Throckmorton) wrote:
>>
>>[much snipped]
>
>Can't stand the truth can you?
>
>>>BTW isn't ol' Ken Lewis missing the mark when he says:
>>>"Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor does not
>>>solicit tax free contributions."?
>
>>The Challange still stands, Doc, as it has for the last 5 five times
>>you have posted this nonsence. You provide proof that Nizkor has ever
>>issued a tax deducab;e receipt an I wil donate $100 to your favorite
>>charity. If you cannot prove it in one month, you donate $100 to mine.
>>
>>Are you game or are you still just a gutless, mouthy, coward?
>
>Damn you must be quite upset- just look at the horrible amounts of
>errors in your post!
>
>The post said:
>
>[...]
>
>As for Ken Lewis' big mouthed claim:
>"Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor
>does not solicit tax free contributions. If you can prove that Nizkor
>has ever issued a tax  deductable receipt, I will donate $100 to the
>orgnization of your chooice. If you cannot, you donate $100 to Nizkor.
>What do you say, you gutless coward? You game?"
>
>Is this close enough for you? I know that it is not exact but is it
>close enough?
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html
>
>The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
>with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is
>a national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for
>all Canadians. 
>
>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________Street 
>Address:________________________________________________City________________
>_State/Province__________Postal Code_______E-Mail 
>Address:_________________________________Amount Enclosed:
>$___________Please make your donations payable to "The League for
>Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust
>Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>		-------- END ---------
>
>BTW isn't ol' Ken Lewis missing the mark when he says:
>"Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor
>does not solicit tax free contributions."?
>
>What does the above look like o' sycophant for the filthiest horde to
>plague  the Earth?
>
>	===================================
>
>Again it is asked: "Is this close enough for you? I know that it is
>not exact but is it close enough?" in regards to: "Donations over
>$10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt. [#0235903-43-13]" 
>and "..isn't ol' Ken Lewis missing the mark when he says:
>"Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor
>does not solicit tax free contributions."?
>
>If Nizkor does not seek tax deductible contributions then why on Earth
>do they even mention it in their letter of begging for funds?
>
>				Doc Tavish
>
>BTW Ken get a wash rag, soap, and clean water to get the excrement off
>your face. You're a frightful sight indeed!
>................................................................................................................
>"Eye for eye, wound for wound, and blow for blow..(Ex 21:24,25)" Jews 
>haven't received one thing they haven't already dealt out to others.
>



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On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:
>
>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, billy_bob@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:
>
>>In article , ijc@global.plantation.org 
>>says...
>>
>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind 
>> wrote:
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy 
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!!  Why should we denounce it? 
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows 
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one 
>>is to accept the Torah!
>> 
>>>It's part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!  
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they're 
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down. 
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren't white also? 
>>
>>>Every little bit helps...
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes 
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the 
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See:  http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject:      The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity.  The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam.  Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as "the
>>Noachide Laws", or "the Commandments of Noah's Sons".
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1.  Not to worship idols;
>>2.  Not to curse G-d;
>>3.  To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4.  Not to murder;
>>5.  Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6.  Not to steal;
>>7.  Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.  
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>>		-----------END------------
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It 
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of 
>>years ago. If this weren't true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18  
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion. 
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion. 
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled. 
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants. 
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions - neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you. 
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land. 
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you. 
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20 
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord. 
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy. 
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death. 
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death. 
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father's wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning. 
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death. 
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning. 
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n "heroes:" see "The Pink Swatstika:"
>>>
>>>         http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America "vomits" out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>>			Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert "at" netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy 
>sven88
>



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