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>PROPOSED VICTIM'S CHARTER OF RIGHTS
>
>
>GENERAL STATEMENT
>
>In the last two thousand years, the state has increasingly assumed
>control of matters of law and dispute.  In primitive times, families
>and clans settled disputes and claims.  This often resulted in long
>and internecine warfare which devastated many involved.  As nations
>formed, crimes became less a matter of two persons in conflict and
>became more a matter of maintaining the King's Peace.  Criminal
>prosecution proceeds today as the Queen versus the accused.
>
>Unfortunately, in this development, the victim has been relegated to
>simply being a piece of evidence or a witness to suit the bureaucratic
>whim of prosecutors and lawyers.  The victim of a crime has at best
>been neglected; and at worst, been viciously abused by the system.
>
>Victims need to have specific protections and rights.  All victims of
>crime must have enshrined in the CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS basic
>rights such as dignity, justice and fair treatment.  The charter 
>already has over 30 clauses to protect the accused; but not one, to
>protect the victims of crime.  To guarantee that victim's rights are
>created, protected and respected, a VICTIM'S ADVOCACY OFFICE shall be
>formed and every victim of crime represented and supported throughout
>the entire legal process.   A victim of a crime shall be advised of
>their rights by the police and be allowed immediate access to an 
>advocate.  Criminals already have this right with a lawyer.
>
>THE RIGHTS OF A VICTIM, SHALL NOT BE LESS THAN THOSE OF THE ACCUSED.
>Criminals are already guaranteed many rights, as in the Correctional
>and Conditional Release Act such as: safe and healthful living 
>conditions, education, medical care, early releases, no physical
>punishment, and personal dignity.  Why can rapists, murderers, pimps
>and child molesters be guaranteed "personal dignity" and no "physical
>punishment"?  i.e. be given what they deny their victims.  Victims
>have no rights, no protections nor any guarantees enshrined in law at
>all.  This proposed charter is intended to correct the current legal
>deficiency and political negligence.
>
>
>SPECIFICALLY, ALL VICTIMS SHALL HAVE THE GENERAL RIGHT TO:
>
>A - DURING INVESTIGATION
>
>1 - BELIEF  The victim of a crime has the right to be believed.  Many
>crimes are so bizarre and evil that the police and juries often have
>difficulty believing them.  Cindy James repeatedly complained for years
>to the police that she was being stalked.  Even after she was found
>in a ditch; beaten, assaulted, gagged, and bound hand and foot, the
>police still maintained that she was simply paranoid and seeking
>attention.  She was eventually murdered, days after leaving a mental
>asylum.  No arrests have yet been made.
>
>2 - MEDICAL TREATMENT  Victims must have the right to immediate and
>comprehensive medical treatment.  In 1994, a little ten year old Indian
>girl from the Enoch Reserve was taken to several hospitals by the
>R.C.M.P.  This unfortunate little girl was repeatedly refused treatment
>because the rural doctors did not want to involve themselves in a child
>molestation case.  No victim of crime should ever be refused medical
>treatment.  This right will include access to the accused's medical
>records to determine such risks as Sexually Transmitted Diseases.   In
>1992 Quebec Court Judge Yvon Roberge ruled that a victim does not have
>this right.
>
>3 - DUE ATTENTION  Victims of crime have the right to appropriate 
>response from the police, investigative agencies, and the courts.
>Personal crimes are often treated with less consideration than property
>crimes.  If a car is reported missing, the police will make a report
>without complaint.  If a child or adult is missing the police often
>refuse to fill out a report, let alone act on it.  Every one of Clifford
>Olsen's murder victims was a missing person to the families, who were
>usually told not to be concerned with teenage disappearances.  On
>Canada's ten most wanted list this week, all wanted suspects are bank
>robbers; none are pimps, or child molestors or even murderers.  Surely,
>thefts even from banks, are not as important as the lives of children.
>
>4 - PERSONAL PROTECTION  Victims and their families have the right to
>immediate and continuing protection from the criminal and any
>associates.  Hundreds of victims and witnesses have been murdered,
>"have disappeared", or have have suddenly dropped charges; often after
>the accused has been given bail, even for the most heinous crimes.
>Pimps in particular make deadly sure that their talkative girls don't
>live long enough to testify.  The charges are then usually dropped
>and the criminal allowed to go free.  The sworn statements of witnesses
>should be allowed in court in emergent situations.  Bail should not 
>be allowed in serious criminal cases.
>
>5 - COLLECTION OF EVIDENCE  Prompt, compassionate, comprehensive and
>efficient collection of evidence shall be practiced.  The victim is
>not simply an information source or vessel for gathering evidence.
>The victims shall be treated with dignity and respect.  In one sexual
>assault case in Leduc, Alberta the police simply left the scene at the
>end of their shift.  The victim fortunately protected the assailant's
>fingerprints on the glass patio door so that after the weekend break
>the police could get this crucial evidence.
>
>6 - DEFENCE  The victim of a crime has an inherent right to defend
>their person, family and property.  Criminals in recent years have
>successfully charged or sued victims for assault and damages such as
>a rapist whose eyes had been scratched and a burglar who had 
>accidentally fallen down some stairs after tripping on a child's toy.
>Under current Canadian Judicial review is a proposal to allow a battered
>woman to kill in defence of their person.  A victim fighting for their
>immediate life should not be required to make a "proper arrest" complete
>with the least necessary use of force and then presumably advisement
>of the assailant(s) of "legal rights".  
>
>In the middle ages, persons who scoffed at the law were frequently
>declared outside of the law and were not allowed to invoke it for their
>own protection.  Hence the term "outlaw".   Persons committing criminal
>acts should not be protected in the same manner or degree, as law abiding
>citizens.
>
>7 - FREEDOM FROM REPETITION  Crime victims should be free of bureaucratic
>and administrative excess.  Numerous recountings of the crime are painful
>for the victim and are frequently unnecessary.   
>
>8 - REASONABLE EFFORTS TO APPREHEND  The police and investigating 
>agencies shall be given sufficient powers, funding, and incentive 
>to conduct investigations including D.N.A. sampling, hypnosis, voice
>prints and kirlian imaging.  Paul Bernardo's D.N.A. sample for multiple
>rapes in Scarborough, Ontario was untested for at least two years.
>Many dozens of girls were viciously raped, and at least two girls
>tortured, repeatedly raped and finally murdered because; there were
>"insufficient funds to test  low priority rape cases."  In contrast,
>there were plenty of funds, many millions of dollars to pay several
>lawyers to defend this evil monster in court.  
>
>9 - BE INFORMED  Crime victims have the right to be present at and be
>informed of significant aspects of their cases.  Victims are often not
>told about developments in their case, changes in trial dates, or even
>that their cases had been dropped.  The prosecutor in one Scottish case
>unilaterally dropped charges against the wishes of the victim, in a 
>
>solid rape case where a girl had been assaulted and stabbed 120 times
>by four teenagers.  Victims have a right to appeal decisions made by 
>the legal system. 
>
>10- ECONOMIC PROTECTION The victim of a crime is often severely
>traumatized and cannot immediately return to work.  A reasonable degree
>of sympathy and  compassion from employers is justified to allow time
>for physical and psychological healing.  The family of the victim shall
>be assisted where necessary.  The family of a murder victim for
>example, faces a large unexpected funeral bill.  The crimes compensation
>fund should be considerably expanded to assist victims and their
>families while their capacity for earning is impaired.
>
>Our governments, which freely spend billions of dollars on criminal
>rights and privileges, should be at least as willing to help the victim.
>All criminal assets should be impounded to provide such funds. The F.B.I.
>report on organized crime porfits, suggests that in Canada, criminals 
>make at least 70 BILLION DOLLARS IN CRIME PROFITS A YEAR, twice that of
>honest businesses.
>
>B - DURING PROSECUTION
>
>1 - ESSENCE OF CRIME DEFINITION  Crime shall be defined as a violation
>of the victim's rights.  The religion, culture, age or state of mind
>(mens rea) of the offender is of no relevance, in any way, as to whether
>a crime has been committed.  The drunken defence of a rape case of
>recent Canadian Supreme Court note is a classic example of the 
>ridiculous claim of innocence based on the criminal's perception.
>
>A crime has been committed, when a victim's rights were infringed upon,
>and this should be the primary and perhaps only determinant of guilt
>or innocence.  The degree of guilt or innocence may (and only may), be
>affected by other considerations.
>
>2 - EVIDENCE CONFIDENTIALITY  Some "evidence" shall be confidential
>and be protected from the defence and the press.  In recent years, for
>example, lawyers have been trying to get access to the files of victims
>from rape crisis centers.  The Supreme Court of Canada now allows such
>access.   This is an horrendous assault of the rights of victims and
>medical confidentiality.  And yet, the accused's criminal records are
>not allowed in court, before sentencing. 
>
>The victim is not on trial and should not have privacy and medical
>confidentiality violated. The victim's counselling is a healing process
>and should be absolutely protected.  In glaring contrast, the Supreme
>Court does not allow conversations or records between accused clients
>and lawyers to be subjected to scrutiny and/or considered necessary for
>a "fair trial".   Lawyer's records are considered sacrosanct.
>
>3 - AN IMMEDIATE DEFENCE STATEMENT  Upon arrest, the accused should be
>required to make a detailed statement.  If so, this shall be recorded
>and commit the offender to a story immediately, so no tailoring to
>evidence can occur.  
>
>4 - PROSECUTION  The victim should have the right to appove the laying
>of the charges. Victims are not disposable witnesses to be used at the
>discretion of the court officers.  Prosecution now engages in too much
>plea bargaining, without the victim's knowledge, or power to protest.
>It makes no sense to investigate a charge of rape and theft of a handbag,
>to drop the rape charge and prosecute for petty theft to "save time and
>money."  Multiple rapist Larry Takahashi had over 100 charges of rape
>dropped, and was then released on parole in a mere four years by the
>Parole Board because he was "not considered to be a risk to society."
>
>5 - JOINDER OF COUNTS  All multiple crimes or offenders shall be joined
>in charge to save trauma to the victims and costs to the taxpayer.  In
>a Montreal case, a victim was put through unnecessary grief because five
>separate trials were needed for a gang rape.  No victim should ever have
>to go through this sort of nonsense five times.  The taxpayers were 
>further subjected to court costs of over a million dollars. 
>
>6 - TRANSPORTATION  Where necessary, the victim shall be provided 
>separate transportation to court.  In the N.W.T. a sexual assault 
>victim was inexplicably and callously transported, in the same van
>as  the assailant, to court in a remote community.
>
>7 - TRIAL SUPPORT  A secure waiting room should be provided for all
>victims.  To suggest that a victim of a child molesting should have
>to wait outside the court with the assailant laughing and taunting them
>is incredible.  
>
>8 - PRIVACY  Victims of crime have the right to privacy.  This legal
>protection would include the right to lay charges and to receive
>compensation.  The famous Canadian lawyer Edward Greenspan is now 
>defending former Provincial Premier Gerald Regan on 17 charges of 
>sexual assault.  Greenspan said he would advertise in local papers for
>men who had slept with the victims.  The victim's past is not generally
>relevant to the immediate case.  In contrast, the accused's records and
>past are not generally allowed.  The reverse should be the case.  The
>accused's records should be admissible in court as it demonstrates
>pattern.  
>
>9 - QUICK AND EFFECTIVE TRIAL  The victim should be guaranteed a quick
>trial.  Most trial time and cost is wasted on testing non crucial, and
>eventually agreed upon evidence.  This is an emotional burden to the
>victim and a financial one to the taxpayer.  Physical evidence should
>only be presented if there is a conflict of claim.  Preliminary trials
>and grand juries which double or triple trial time and cost, essentially
>allow the defence to have all the evidence of the prosecution.  The
>defence then builds their case to tailor to the prosecution evidence.
>The defence should not have this universal right,  an outline of the
>case is sufficient.  
>
>Further, any evidence that supports criminal investigation shall be
>admissible, however obtained.  In Detroit, the police found a list with
>a number of girl's names struck off.  The millionaire rapist's lawyer
>was able to declare his "this hit list of rape victims" to be 
>inadmissible because there was no search warrant.
>
>10 - DISTANCE  The victim shall be allowed to have videotaped testimony.
>In Montreal, a rape gang leader was found not guilty by Judge Luc Trudel
>because the victim was too afraid to testify in person.  The Judge 
>proceeded to rebuke the frightened 16 year old girl who fled the 
>courtroom in tears.  In the other four cases of his partners, the
>videotape testimony was allowed.  A joinder of counts was not allowed.
>
>11 - FREEDOM FROM HARASSMENT  The victim shall be free from harassment.
>Of all places in the country where law should be practiced; it should 
>be in a court of law.  However, during cross examination, many lawyers
>engage in suggestion, slander, innuendo, outright fabrication, and 
>lies to win a case.  Doctors are allowed to examine, but not fondle
>their patients.  Similarly, lawyers and judges are allowed to cross
>examine and instruct, but should not be allowed to harass or intimidate
>witnesses, especially victims.   Court officials should be criminally
>and civilly accountable for anything they do or say in court.  Judges
>must constantly bear in mind  the rights of victims, particularly since
>all judges were lawyers and are generally more concerned with the
>accused's rights, rather than the victim's rights. 
>
>12 - DISASSOCIATION  The victim is entitled to a professional trial.
>In a bizarre U.S. case, a convicted murderer whose death sentence had
>been recently commuted was allowed to defend himself, and cross examine
>his rape victim for two days.  This was recently duplicated in Canada
>as accused rapist Ferreira represented himself.  No victim should ever
>have to be subjected to this kind of assault.   In the House of Commons,
>the Members of Parliament are guaranteed this right of disassociation.
>Members must address the chair,  the speaker or the judge.  Grown men
>are protected from the terrible effects of vicious barbs ;---- but an
>innocent defenceless rape victim is forced to relive the primal terror
>of a rape at the direction of their assailant.
>
>The issue of trial by jury is open to question.  Professionalization
>might also include a professional jury.  It seems very odd, that a
>potentially life and death decision should rest with people picked 
>randomly off the streets,  who have little or no training or experience
>whatsoever in law or justice.
>
>13 - CONFRONTATION   Criminals already have the right to face and to
>cross examine their accuser.  The victim should have the equal right to
>confront and cross examine the accused on the stand. Criminals normally
>do not like to testify.  However, they are a vital witness and should
>be required to testify.   The issue of trial coaching by the lawyer 
>needs to be examined as to morality and legality.
>
>C - DURING SENTENCING
>
>1 - VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT The victim shall have the absolute right to
>make a victim impact statement. Multiple murder and rapist Paul Bernardo
>was well dressed, immaculately groomed, and very polite on the stand.
>He was very well coached by his lawyer; on what to wear and say.  This
>deceptive presentation tends to soften a jury's opinion of a criminal.
>The victim impact statement should help put the account into perspective.
>The suffering of the victims and their families should be at the
>forefront of the judge and jury at sentencing.
>
>2 - PUNISHMENT SUITING THE CRIME  All crimes should be punished by an
>appropriate measure. The average sentence now given to a child molester
>is less than that given to a car thief.  Thomas Eneas beat a man to 
>death and received a mere one year sentence.  Randy Kirton was given a
>14 month sentence for drugging and prostituting 14 year old girls.
>Former Toronto Maple Leafs owner, Harold Ballard was convicted of
>tax evasion of a quarter of a million dollars and received a one day 
>jail sentence by the judge.  As penalties, these are absurd.  Sentences
>should be appropriately and severely formulized; the onus being placed
>on the defence to reduce it, or the prosecution to increase it.  A 
>minimum and a maximum sentence should be a mandatory policy. 
>
>Criminals should not be allowed to milk the taxpayers with frivolous
>rights such as personal development.  Taxpayers paying for University
>rape counselling courses for Charles Ng, who raped, tortured and 
>murdered a number of women; or serial child killer, Clifford Olsen to
>take law courses is totally idiotic.  Honest people do not get these
>things free, why do criminals?
>
>3 - TRUTH IN SENTENCING  Society has the right to a sentence being
>truthful. Concurrent sentences for example, allow the criminal to serve
>many sentences at the same time.  This practice should be outlawed.
>A million year sentence could mean one year.  The Corrections and 
>Conditional Release Act states the maximum sentence that can be served
>before being eligible for parole is four years, with the one weak 
>exception of life without parole for a number of years, say 25.  This
>is further subject to a Judicial review.  The Parole Board should not
>be allowed to unilaterally override and ignore up to 99% of the
>considered sentence of the judge and jury as in Takahashi's case.
>
>
>4 - PROTECTION OF POTENTIAL VICTIMS  Potential victims have the right
>to be protected.  All criminals convicted of two or more serious
>violent offences such as murder, rape, child molestation, drug dealing
>and pimping should automatically be declared DANGEROUS OFFENDERS and
>given infinite sentences. Almost no judicial or bureaucratic discretion
>to release should be allowed.  Nothing, but a unanimous vote in
>Parliament should allow the offender to be released.
>
>5 - SENTENCE CARRIED OUT   Society, and especially crime victims, have
>the right to the sentence being carried out.  The Correctional and 
>Conditional Release Act gives absolute power to THE PAROLE BOARD TO 
>RELEASE CRIMINALS.   Multiple rapist Larry Takahashi was sentenced to
>three life terms and 89 years.  And yet he was released on parole by
>the PAROLE BOARD in four years.  The parole act states that "no offender
>shall be released, if by reoffending, it would pose an undue risk to
>society."  HE COMMITTED 120 RAPES, IS THIS NOT AN UNDUE RISK TO
>SOCIETY??!!  How many rapes does he have to commit before he is unduly
>dangerous and a risk?
>
>6 - PART OF SENTENCING  The victim and  the Victim's Advocate should
>have a say in the sentencing of the offender.  The victim needs to have
>a healing process and may wish to contribute to this legal process by
>suggesting compensation and punishment.  The victim in a native
>sentencing circle has this right and is part of the legal process.
>
>7 - COMPENSATION  The victim of a crime should have the right to 
>compensation from criminals who committed, and officials that permit a
>crime to be committed. An American Governor in 1995 pardoned a murderer
>from the death sentence, who was subsequently released on parole; and
>almost immediately raped a woman.  The Governor should pay substantial
>compensation to the victim. Justice Susan Lang found Corrections Canada
>largely responsible for allowing a convicted killer to escape.  The
>"jail" apparently has no locked doors or fences.  The escapee's rape
>victim was awarded $340,000 compensation. 
>
>8 - ACCOUNTABILITY  All bureaucrats and officials should be subject to
>review and their competence examined.  The Victim's Advocate should be
>allowed to challange appointments.  The Correctional and Conditional 
>Release Act section 155 provides total immunity for the Parole Board and
>its decisions. Many, many Canadians die every year as a result of Parole
>Board mistakes.  And yet, they are given absolute discretionary powers;
>and are then allowed to write their own report card for success.  No 
>wonder their success rate is 99%!  This situation is scandalous and 
>absolutely ridiculous. 
>
>Clifford Olsen committed at least four murders while he was on bail
>after the rape of a 15 year old girl.  The justice made a decision at
>the time that was clearly wrong; based on dozens of serious outstanding
>charges of rape, assault, and child molestation.  The Victims Advocate
>shall be empowered to initiate proceedings to an independent Competency
>Review Board which shall be empowered to disbar lawyers, and dismiss
>judges and parole officers.  The victim or Victim's Advocate should be
>allowed to lay criminal charges such as negligent homicide and be
>allowed to initiate civil proceedings for damages from officials in
>appropriate circumstances.
>
>9 - REPRESENTION ON PAROLE  Parole should not be allowed except within
>the framework of the minimum sentence.  The victim or the Victim's
>Advocate should be allowed to challenge early release. The Parole Board
>should not be composed of political hacks.  A sensible balance of 
>competent citizens needs to be established to serve the public good.
>However, since there are appeal courts, the very need of the Parole
>Board is debateable.
>
>10 - OF APPEAL  Criminals are protected from double jeopardy whereby
>they can only be charged once for a crime and yet they are allowed
>seemingly infinite appeals.  Such publicly funded appeals should not
>be allowed.  The taxpayers of Canada paid over five million dollars
>fighting Charles Ng's deportation to the U.S.; where he faced the death
>sentence for multiple rape, torture and murder.  One limited appeal
>should be allowed. The victim should be allowed the same appeal rights.
>Higher courts should be allowed to refuse, and perhaps required to
>refuse further appeals.
>
>Ng's American lawyer expects to make over 20 million dollars in the
>defence of this evil criminal.  Ng's videotaped rapes, torture and
>murder should require that a jury take a mere five minutes to come to
>a decision.  
>
>Victims of crime have had enough.  Their needs and rights must now be
>addressed.



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On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:45:40 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <35f03b3d.996858@news.nucleus.com>,
>  kahanem@betyam.org wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:52:04 -0700, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>> >partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
>> >Please reply in writing to:
>>
>> This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
>> criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!



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On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:15:29 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:

Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:49:13 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>>For those concerned about the mass murders by  the Soviet JEWS and the
>>KGB, attached is an article for consideration

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.

>>First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>>that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
>>D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
>>following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
>>U.S. Archives:         
         
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
>>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
        
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>>July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
>>government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>>type." 
      
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>>reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
>>were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
>>come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
>>Imperial Government."         

>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>>foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
>>(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. 

>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>>little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
>>they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>>Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
>>Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>>side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
>>American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
>>pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
>>broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
>>number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
>>Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
>>became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
>>Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this
>>thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
>>of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
>>1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
>>the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
>>real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
>>calls himself Professor Gordon. 

>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>>on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
>>I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway.
>>This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>>because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>>Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
>>the agitators were Jews. 

>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>>that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
>>Russians did not take kindly to it." 

>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>April, 4, 1919) 
	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
>>Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:

>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>>customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
>>an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>>death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.

>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
>>percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
>>an American professor of Russian history. . . "  

>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>>were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
>>them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
>>Jewish Communist bosses.
 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com


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Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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>In article <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com>,
>  bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>> Media around the world are now reporting on mass arrests worldwide of
>> people involved in kiddie porn distribution.
>>
>> This story from last year proves the foul involvement of some
>> people....
The Halifax Herald newspaper had another article regarding the latest
involvement of kiddie porn distribution in Baltimore,USA, dated 4th
April 1998.

Sven88
"c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp"


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  Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
  and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
  electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

  Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
  that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
  conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

  Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
  with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
  intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

  The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
  help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
  said.

  Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
  specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
  this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
  enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

  Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
  of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
  are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
  comment.

  Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
  $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
  ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
  confiscated.

  After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
  to be with his family.

  Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
  maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
  did say there was a plea bargain.

  Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
  in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
  posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
  prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
  prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

  ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
  who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
  the media.
  ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
  about how we will handle this.''

  Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
  possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

  Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
  partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
  material.


  With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
  The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.


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On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

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Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:53:41 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:49:13 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>>For those concerned about the mass murders by  the Soviet JEWS and the
>>KGB, attached is an article for consideration

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.

>>First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>>that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
>>D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
>>following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
>>U.S. Archives:         
         
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
>>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
        
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>>July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
>>government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>>type." 
      
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>>reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
>>were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
>>come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
>>Imperial Government."         

>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>>foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
>>(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. 

>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>>little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
>>they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>>Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
>>Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>>side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
>>American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
>>pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
>>broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
>>number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
>>Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
>>became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
>>Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this
>>thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
>>of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
>>1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
>>the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
>>real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
>>calls himself Professor Gordon. 

>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>>on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
>>I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway.
>>This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>>because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>>Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
>>the agitators were Jews. 

>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>>that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
>>Russians did not take kindly to it." 

>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>April, 4, 1919) 
	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
>>Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:

>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>>customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
>>an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>>death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.

>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
>>percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
>>an American professor of Russian history. . . "  

>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>>were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
>>them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
>>Jewish Communist bosses.
 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com


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On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:15:29 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:

Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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>In article <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com>,
>  bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
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>> Media around the world are now reporting on mass arrests worldwide of
>> people involved in kiddie porn distribution.
>>
>> This story from last year proves the foul involvement of some
>> people....
The Halifax Herald newspaper had another article regarding the latest
involvement of kiddie porn distribution in Baltimore,USA, dated 4th
April 1998.

Sven88
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  Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
  and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
  electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

  Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
  that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
  conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

  Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
  with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
  intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

  The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
  help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
  said.

  Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
  specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
  this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
  enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

  Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
  of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
  are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
  comment.

  Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
  $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
  ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
  confiscated.

  After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
  to be with his family.

  Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
  maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
  did say there was a plea bargain.

  Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
  in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
  posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
  prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
  prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

  ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
  who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
  the media.
  ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
  about how we will handle this.''

  Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
  possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

  Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
  partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
  material.


  With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
  The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.


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Zionism and the Third Reich

Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
"Tel Aviv," while a
swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
years later a traveler
aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
little-known chapter of history: The
wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During
the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
that Jews and Germans were
distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
Germany.
Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
"foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
reality and live in a separate state of their own.

"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
does not exist, it is brought
in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
social or religious. "It is a national
question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue. . . ."

Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."


Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
detailed memorandum to the
new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
first step, it suggested,
had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
tradition. Zionism
recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
and collective responsibility . . .

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
realities.

Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
and German culture - can show an
 interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
and internal sympathy . . .

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
especially the  German people . . .

Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
Jewish problem and
desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
or anti-Jewish, because, in its
view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
Jews." He explained: "No
subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
each group believed was in its own
national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
1940-1941, when the Second
World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
turned to Zionism
during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
were published. "Zionist
work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
Encyclopaedia Judaica
notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
support for Zionism by the
government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
self-awareness. Jewish
schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
self-awareness - should be
promoted, the paper recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
Zionist development there. Based
on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
that appeared in late 1934 under
the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world.

A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
world: the Jewish
question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the
Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
have been lost to it for
more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
goodwill, go with them."10

Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
within Jewry, the so-called
Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
kosher food on its ships,
under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12

With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
1985 survey, The Third Reich
and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to
educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
"The Gestapo did everything in
those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
received their help when we required anything from other authorities
regarding preparations for emigration." 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
the Jews an alien minority
nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
schools, its own theatre, and its
own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
aspects of national life . . .

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
Jewish minority:

Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
relations   between the two nations.

Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
Berlin Jewish Community,
declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
of 1935:  16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
. . . This interruption
of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
Congress, told   a New
York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17

The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
L_sener,
expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
November 1935 issue of the
official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
opposition to
the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
Germany where
prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
flag, Jews were specifically
guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
Haganah official Feivel
Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
was kept well informed
about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
secret deliveries of German
weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
organization to get back on its feet
and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
Jewish communities in the
United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and
fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
implacably hostile
towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
Zionist "promised land," a
sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
be able to absorb all
Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
a base for international Communism.24 

Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between
Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
nevertheless be a mistake to
assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
anti-German agitation of international
Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
world."26 "

The proclamation
of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
create for Germany a new
enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
Near East."

Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
January 1939,

Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
misgivings that his policies might
contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
ridding Germany of its Jews,
he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
1939. In response, the SS
security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
illegal, from Germany
(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
1939.

Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30

Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
in Hitler's Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
German Jews to migrate
to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
following talks between German
officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
fertilizer, and so
forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Ha'avara
company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
his deposit in Germany.

German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
Palestine oranges were
exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
Jewish settlers and
development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
the international
Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
arrangement, stressed that
the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
negotiate the pact,
pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
in Switzerland,
overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
Zionist "shadow
government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
Agreement on several
occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
goods to Palestine through a
Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 

A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
not only the largest source of money
(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
products essential for
development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
desirable target country as
far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
Minister, it went on, had
concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
each time decided
to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
through which Jews in
foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
Palestine.38

Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
1937 Poland authorized the
Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
arrangements.

The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Ha'avara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
made up about 15 percent
of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
especially in the late 1930s, were
allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
pounds or 139.57 million
German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
major impact on a
country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
out.

Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
the State of Israel."42

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
state. A January 1939 German
Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
agreement] contributed to
no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
"The economic activity
made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
country's development.

Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
even today in the
economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 

Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively
contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
Through this pact, Hitler's Third
Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
by the radical underground "Fighters for
the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
the group's attitude toward Britain, which
had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
the war on the side of
Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
in its historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:



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>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:49:13 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>>For those concerned about the mass murders by  the Soviet JEWS and the
>>KGB, attached is an article for consideration

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.

>>First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>>that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
>>D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
>>following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
>>U.S. Archives:         
         
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
>>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
        
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>>July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
>>government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>>type." 
      
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>>reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
>>were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
>>come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
>>Imperial Government."         

>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>>foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
>>(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. 

>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>>little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
>>they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>>Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
>>Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>>side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
>>American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
>>pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
>>broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
>>number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
>>Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
>>became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
>>Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this
>>thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
>>of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
>>1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
>>the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
>>real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
>>calls himself Professor Gordon. 

>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>>on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
>>I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway.
>>This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>>because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>>Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
>>the agitators were Jews. 

>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>>that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
>>Russians did not take kindly to it." 

>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>April, 4, 1919) 
	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
>>Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:

>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>>customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
>>an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>>death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.

>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
>>percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
>>an American professor of Russian history. . . "  

>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>>were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
>>them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
>>Jewish Communist bosses.
 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com


Never Forget the Morders at KATYN...

sven88


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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:53:41 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:49:13 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>>For those concerned about the mass murders by  the Soviet JEWS and the
>>KGB, attached is an article for consideration

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.

>>First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>>that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
>>D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
>>following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
>>U.S. Archives:         
         
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
>>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
        
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>>July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
>>government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>>type." 
      
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>>reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
>>were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
>>come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
>>Imperial Government."         

>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>>foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
>>(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. 

>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>>little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
>>they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>>Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
>>Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>>side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
>>American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
>>pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
>>broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
>>number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
>>Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
>>became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
>>Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this
>>thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
>>of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
>>1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
>>the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
>>real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
>>calls himself Professor Gordon. 

>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>>on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
>>I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway.
>>This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>>because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>>Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
>>the agitators were Jews. 

>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>>that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
>>Russians did not take kindly to it." 

>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>April, 4, 1919) 
	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
>>Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:

>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>>customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
>>an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>>death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.

>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
>>percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
>>an American professor of Russian history. . . "  

>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>>were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
>>them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
>>Jewish Communist bosses.
 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com


Never Forget the Morders at KATYN...

sven88


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On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto 
wrote:

>sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

"c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp"


  Article Segment 2 of 2
  (Get
Previous Segment)
  
  Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring
in Canada
  and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
  electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

  Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,''
and
  that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second
search
  conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

  Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who
co-operated
  with police, was only using the material for his own sexual
fantasies. ``His
  intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the
Crown.

  The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information
that will
  help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr.
Hoskins=
  said.

  Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
  specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every
angle at
  this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does
involve law
  enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

  Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged
distribution
  of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American
agencies
  are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday,
declined
  comment.

  Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued
at
  $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200
fine
  ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were
also
  confiscated.

  After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight
to Boston
  to be with his family.

  Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence
carries a
  maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But
they
  did say there was a plea bargain.

  Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university,
arrived
  in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since.
His last
  posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was
to lead
  prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah,
has no
  prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

  ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said
Mrs. Fox,
  who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it
through
  the media.
  ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still
thinking
  about how we will handle this.''

  Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as
soon as
  possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future
cantors.

  Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude
or
  partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the
child-related
  material.


  With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
  The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.


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>I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you
>advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not
>a child abuser then you have some major problems. 
>
>-Tuisto



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On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:19:09 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

"c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp"


  Article Segment 2 of 2
  (Get
Previous Segment)
  
  Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring
in Canada
  and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
  electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

  Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,''
and
  that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second
search
  conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

  Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who
co-operated
  with police, was only using the material for his own sexual
fantasies. ``His
  intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the
Crown.

  The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information
that will
  help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr.
Hoskins=
  said.

  Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
  specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every
angle at
  this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does
involve law
  enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

  Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged
distribution
  of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American
agencies
  are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday,
declined
  comment.

  Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued
at
  $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200
fine
  ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were
also
  confiscated.

  After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight
to Boston
  to be with his family.

  Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence
carries a
  maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But
they
  did say there was a plea bargain.

  Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university,
arrived
  in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since.
His last
  posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was
to lead
  prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah,
has no
  prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

  ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said
Mrs. Fox,
  who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it
through
  the media.
  ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still
thinking
  about how we will handle this.''

  Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as
soon as
  possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future
cantors.

  Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude
or
  partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the
child-related
  material.


  With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
  The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.


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On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:28:22 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>jacob bekker wrote:
>> 
>> someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> >
>> > One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>> > allegedly died in WWII.
>> 
>> Is there no wonder how the dumn Jews have so big influence in the world?
>> 
>> J.B.
>> >
>=================
>Presence of Jews in Hitler's army clearly rules out the story of
>exterminatinon.  Being in high places they would know that the story is
>true and would alert the world through their relatives.
>
>They have not done it ... little chance that there was Jewish genocide. 
>Moreover, there are no bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the
>chance to cremate.
>
>Why Jews are smart and there is no doubt about it?
>
>Jew are the oldest people on earth with practical alphabet.  Being so
>for they became the record keepers and accountants of the world.  While
>Slavic women looked at Slavic mens muscles in order to be sure that he
>will have the strenght to plow and feed her family Jewish maiden looked
>in Jewish boys for brains to sustain them.
>
>Moreover Catholicizm caused that the smartest boys especially in peasant
>families became priests and than the genes of smartnes did not
>reproduced.  In Rabbis families was just the opposite, the smartest boy
>in the shtetle was gettin hand of the smart rabbis daughters.
>
>But I do not worry about that.  Mere forty years of education given to
>the Slavs admixed with Jewish apparatus of terror and the Slavs managed
>to launch Sputnik and man space station Mir.
>
>Western Europeans were unable to do it.
>Pawlikowski



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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:44:52 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:


>> >> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> >> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> >> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:13:45 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <35e47543.1259242@news.nucleus.com>,  bjarnesson@hootmail.org
>wrote:
>
>> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:18:12 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On 18 Aug 1998 19:24:34 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>SOB) wrote:

>>Really, Mr. Grosvenor, you are not very good at concealing your
>>identity, and talking to yourself, while perhaps more satisfactory
>>than your trying to speak to anyone else, isn't all that effective
>>here on the net.

>So what? I rather enjoy his charade. Haven't you caught on yet that we
>love driving you Nizkooks up the wall? We are draining your time and
>resources you expend to ferret us out. We enjoy playing hide 'n' seek
>with you boobs. Matt Giwer has even been in a couple of times and you
>didn't even spot him!

>Heh Billy, the offer of a free Doc Tavish CD extends especially to you
>too! You really make Ken cry.

>				Doc Tavish
>You know my e-mail address!

>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Libraries at:
>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>http://?????????? nearly finished!
>http://???? number 3 starting construction!
>Fourth Branch Being Considered!!

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV   24946

>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."

>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 


>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13] 


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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:44:52 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:


>> >> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> >> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> >> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:13:45 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <35e47543.1259242@news.nucleus.com>,  bjarnesson@hootmail.org
>wrote:
>
>> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:18:12 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On 18 Aug 1998 19:24:34 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>SOB) wrote:

>>Really, Mr. Grosvenor, you are not very good at concealing your
>>identity, and talking to yourself, while perhaps more satisfactory
>>than your trying to speak to anyone else, isn't all that effective
>>here on the net.

>So what? I rather enjoy his charade. Haven't you caught on yet that we
>love driving you Nizkooks up the wall? We are draining your time and
>resources you expend to ferret us out. We enjoy playing hide 'n' seek
>with you boobs. Matt Giwer has even been in a couple of times and you
>didn't even spot him!

>Heh Billy, the offer of a free Doc Tavish CD extends especially to you
>too! You really make Ken cry.

>				Doc Tavish
>You know my e-mail address!

>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Libraries at:
>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>http://?????????? nearly finished!
>http://???? number 3 starting construction!
>Fourth Branch Being Considered!!

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV   24946

>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."

>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 


>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13] 


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On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:19:09 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

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  electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

  Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,''
and
  that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second
search
  conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

  Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who
co-operated
  with police, was only using the material for his own sexual
fantasies. ``His
  intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the
Crown.

  The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information
that will
  help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr.
Hoskins=
  said.

  Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
  specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every
angle at
  this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does
involve law
  enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

  Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged
distribution
  of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American
agencies
  are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday,
declined
  comment.

  Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued
at
  $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200
fine
  ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were
also
  confiscated.

  After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight
to Boston
  to be with his family.

  Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence
carries a
  maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But
they
  did say there was a plea bargain.

  Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university,
arrived
  in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since.
His last
  posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was
to lead
  prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah,
has no
  prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

  ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said
Mrs. Fox,
  who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it
through
  the media.
  ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still
thinking
  about how we will handle this.''

  Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as
soon as
  possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future
cantors.

  Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude
or
  partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the
child-related
  material.


  With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
  The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.


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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>working for Hitler??
>
>jacob bekker wrote:
>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>> > sperati wrote:
>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> > > North Shore News
>> > > February 2, 1997
>
>> > > Insights from abroad
>> > > Doug Collins
>
>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>
>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>
>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>
>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>
>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> > > alive.
>
>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> > > documents in the process.
>
>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>
>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> > > was a Jew.
>
>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>
>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>
>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> > > wonder why?
>
>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>==============================================
>Phillips
>
>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>Heydrich,
>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>thaat
>depended on the degree of mixture.
>===========
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>
>
>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>>Orest Slepokura:
>
>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>
>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>
>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>
>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>Zionist Organization. 
>
>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>
>
>
>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>
>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>Zyclon
>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>that
>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>ask
>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>That
>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>place,
>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>
>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>idiots of
>>>scp.
>
>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>too much for you to deal with. 
>
>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>And what bothers you?
>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>WWII by
>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>
>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>at their minds. 
>
>
>>>Alexander Sharon
>
>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:44:52 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:


>> >> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> >> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> >> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:13:45 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <35e47543.1259242@news.nucleus.com>,  bjarnesson@hootmail.org
>wrote:
>
>> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:18:12 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On 18 Aug 1998 19:24:34 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>SOB) wrote:

>>Really, Mr. Grosvenor, you are not very good at concealing your
>>identity, and talking to yourself, while perhaps more satisfactory
>>than your trying to speak to anyone else, isn't all that effective
>>here on the net.

>So what? I rather enjoy his charade. Haven't you caught on yet that we
>love driving you Nizkooks up the wall? We are draining your time and
>resources you expend to ferret us out. We enjoy playing hide 'n' seek
>with you boobs. Matt Giwer has even been in a couple of times and you
>didn't even spot him!

>Heh Billy, the offer of a free Doc Tavish CD extends especially to you
>too! You really make Ken cry.

>				Doc Tavish
>You know my e-mail address!

>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Libraries at:
>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>http://?????????? nearly finished!
>http://???? number 3 starting construction!
>Fourth Branch Being Considered!!

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV   24946

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13] 


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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>working for Hitler??
>
>jacob bekker wrote:
>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>> > sperati wrote:
>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> > > North Shore News
>> > > February 2, 1997
>
>> > > Insights from abroad
>> > > Doug Collins
>
>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>
>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>
>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>
>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>
>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> > > alive.
>
>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> > > documents in the process.
>
>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>
>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> > > was a Jew.
>
>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>
>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>
>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> > > wonder why?
>
>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>==============================================
>Phillips
>
>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>Heydrich,
>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>thaat
>depended on the degree of mixture.
>===========
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>
>
>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>>Orest Slepokura:
>
>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>
>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>
>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>
>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>Zionist Organization. 
>
>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>
>
>
>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>
>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>Zyclon
>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>that
>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>ask
>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>That
>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>place,
>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>
>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>idiots of
>>>scp.
>
>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>too much for you to deal with. 
>
>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>And what bothers you?
>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>WWII by
>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>
>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>at their minds. 
>
>
>>>Alexander Sharon
>
>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>working for Hitler??
>
>jacob bekker wrote:
>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>> > sperati wrote:
>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> > > North Shore News
>> > > February 2, 1997
>
>> > > Insights from abroad
>> > > Doug Collins
>
>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>
>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>
>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>
>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>
>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> > > alive.
>
>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> > > documents in the process.
>
>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>
>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> > > was a Jew.
>
>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>
>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>
>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> > > wonder why?
>
>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>==============================================
>Phillips
>
>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>Heydrich,
>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>thaat
>depended on the degree of mixture.
>===========
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>
>
>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>>Orest Slepokura:
>
>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>
>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>
>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>
>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>Zionist Organization. 
>
>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>
>
>
>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>
>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>Zyclon
>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>that
>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>ask
>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>That
>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>place,
>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>
>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>idiots of
>>>scp.
>
>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>too much for you to deal with. 
>
>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>And what bothers you?
>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>WWII by
>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>
>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>at their minds. 
>
>
>>>Alexander Sharon
>
>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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Subject: JEWS EXTORT 1.25 BILLION FROM SWISS BANKS
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On 16 Aug 1998 22:52:23 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:

>>
Subject: JEWS EXTORT 1.25 BILLION FROM SWISS BANKS
>>From: klarjude@zhid.org
>>Date: Thu, Aug 13, 1998 12:25 EDT
>>Message-id: <35d81385.1036195@news.nucleus.com>
>>
>>A group of Swiss banks have finally agreed to pay the sum of $1,25
>>Billion after extortion from the Jews.
>>
>>The group includes UBS AG, Credit Suisse and Swiss national bank,
>>among others.
>>
>>This followed posturing from several US congressmen who owed favours
>>to their pet Jews.
>>
>>If even the honest Swiss, after giving sanctuary to the Jews in WWII
>>get swindled like this, no wonder less solvent nations have knuckled
>>under to the cursed Christkillers.
>>
>>No wonder Jews are hated, and despised, worldwide!!!


No doubt Poland will be the next country to be asked to make
"reparations" payments???


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Subject: Oswiecim - Priest Supports Polish People
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Rev. Karl Stehelin of the Society of St.Pius X is to be thanked by all
honest Polish people.

he and his supporters have planted 2 more Christian crosses at
Oswiecim, to commemorate all the Polish Christian martyrs murdered in
World War II. Especially the 152 Polish citizens killed in 1941.

Remember those POLISH officers murdered at KATYN by the 
Soviet KGB (Jew led).


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On 16 Aug 1998 22:52:23 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:

>>
Subject: JEWS EXTORT 1.25 BILLION FROM SWISS BANKS
>>From: klarjude@zhid.org
>>Date: Thu, Aug 13, 1998 12:25 EDT
>>Message-id: <35d81385.1036195@news.nucleus.com>
>>
>>A group of Swiss banks have finally agreed to pay the sum of $1,25
>>Billion after extortion from the Jews.
>>
>>The group includes UBS AG, Credit Suisse and Swiss national bank,
>>among others.
>>
>>This followed posturing from several US congressmen who owed favours
>>to their pet Jews.
>>
>>If even the honest Swiss, after giving sanctuary to the Jews in WWII
>>get swindled like this, no wonder less solvent nations have knuckled
>>under to the cursed Christkillers.
>>
>>No wonder Jews are hated, and despised, worldwide!!!


No doubt Poland will be the next country to be asked to make
"reparations" payments???


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Rev. Karl Stehelin of the Society of St.Pius X is to be thanked by all
honest Polish people.

he and his supporters have planted 2 more Christian crosses at
Oswiecim, to commemorate all the Polish Christian martyrs murdered in
World War II. Especially the 152 Polish citizens killed in 1941.

Remember those POLISH officers murdered at KATYN by the 
Soviet KGB (Jew led).


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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>working for Hitler??
>
>jacob bekker wrote:
>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>> > sperati wrote:
>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> > > North Shore News
>> > > February 2, 1997
>
>> > > Insights from abroad
>> > > Doug Collins
>
>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>
>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>
>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>
>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>
>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> > > alive.
>
>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> > > documents in the process.
>
>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>
>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> > > was a Jew.
>
>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>
>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>
>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> > > wonder why?
>
>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>==============================================
>Phillips
>
>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>Heydrich,
>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>thaat
>depended on the degree of mixture.
>===========
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>
>
>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>>Orest Slepokura:
>
>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>
>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>
>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>
>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>Zionist Organization. 
>
>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>
>
>
>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>
>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>Zyclon
>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>that
>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>ask
>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>That
>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>place,
>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>
>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>idiots of
>>>scp.
>
>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>too much for you to deal with. 
>
>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>And what bothers you?
>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>WWII by
>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>
>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>at their minds. 
>
>
>>>Alexander Sharon
>
>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:

>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>The Village Voice
>22May98

>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World

>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'

>by Robert I. Friedman

>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>out of competing crime groups in the area.

>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>as New Zealand.

>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.

>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>extortions.

>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>perestroika.

>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.

>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>against terrorism.

>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>anonymity.

>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>says a classified FBI report.

>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.

>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.

>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.

>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>profits.

>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>in upstate New York.

>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>Israeli intelligence report.

>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>250 members are his relatives.

>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>The legitimate companies he bought include:

>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.

>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.

>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.

>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>Israel.

>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.

>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.

>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>their rivals.

>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>Mogilevich's  financial operations.

>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>Canadian authorities.

>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.

>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>has engaged in any criminal activities.

>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.

>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>released.

>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>Russian mob.

>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.

>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.

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On 16 Aug 1998 22:52:23 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:

>>
Subject: JEWS EXTORT 1.25 BILLION FROM SWISS BANKS
>>From: klarjude@zhid.org
>>Date: Thu, Aug 13, 1998 12:25 EDT
>>Message-id: <35d81385.1036195@news.nucleus.com>
>>
>>A group of Swiss banks have finally agreed to pay the sum of $1,25
>>Billion after extortion from the Jews.
>>
>>The group includes UBS AG, Credit Suisse and Swiss national bank,
>>among others.
>>
>>This followed posturing from several US congressmen who owed favours
>>to their pet Jews.
>>
>>If even the honest Swiss, after giving sanctuary to the Jews in WWII
>>get swindled like this, no wonder less solvent nations have knuckled
>>under to the cursed Christkillers.
>>
>>No wonder Jews are hated, and despised, worldwide!!!


No doubt Poland will be the next country to be asked to make
"reparations" payments???


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Rev. Karl Stehelin of the Society of St.Pius X is to be thanked by all
honest Polish people.

he and his supporters have planted 2 more Christian crosses at
Oswiecim, to commemorate all the Polish Christian martyrs murdered in
World War II. Especially the 152 Polish citizens killed in 1941.

Remember those POLISH officers murdered at KATYN by the 
Soviet KGB (Jew led).


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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>working for Hitler??
>
>jacob bekker wrote:
>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>> > sperati wrote:
>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> > > North Shore News
>> > > February 2, 1997
>
>> > > Insights from abroad
>> > > Doug Collins
>
>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>
>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>
>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>
>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>
>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>
>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> > > alive.
>
>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>
>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>
>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> > > documents in the process.
>
>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>
>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>
>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> > > was a Jew.
>
>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>
>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>
>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> > > wonder why?
>
>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>==============================================
>Phillips
>
>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>Heydrich,
>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>thaat
>depended on the degree of mixture.
>===========
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>
>
>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>>Orest Slepokura:
>
>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>
>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>
>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>
>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>Zionist Organization. 
>
>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>
>
>
>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>
>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>Zyclon
>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>that
>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>ask
>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>That
>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>place,
>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>
>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>idiots of
>>>scp.
>
>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>too much for you to deal with. 
>
>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>And what bothers you?
>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>WWII by
>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>
>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>at their minds. 
>
>
>>>Alexander Sharon
>
>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:

>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>The Village Voice
>22May98

>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World

>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'

>by Robert I. Friedman

>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>out of competing crime groups in the area.

>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>as New Zealand.

>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.

>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>extortions.

>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>perestroika.

>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.

>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>against terrorism.

>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>anonymity.

>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>says a classified FBI report.

>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.

>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.

>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.

>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>profits.

>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>in upstate New York.

>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>Israeli intelligence report.

>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>250 members are his relatives.

>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>The legitimate companies he bought include:

>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.

>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.

>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.

>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>Israel.

>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.

>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.

>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>their rivals.

>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>Mogilevich's  financial operations.

>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>Canadian authorities.

>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.

>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>has engaged in any criminal activities.

>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.

>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>released.

>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>Russian mob.

>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.

>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.

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On 16 Aug 1998 22:52:23 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:

>>
Subject: JEWS EXTORT 1.25 BILLION FROM SWISS BANKS
>>From: klarjude@zhid.org
>>Date: Thu, Aug 13, 1998 12:25 EDT
>>Message-id: <35d81385.1036195@news.nucleus.com>
>>
>>A group of Swiss banks have finally agreed to pay the sum of $1,25
>>Billion after extortion from the Jews.
>>
>>The group includes UBS AG, Credit Suisse and Swiss national bank,
>>among others.
>>
>>This followed posturing from several US congressmen who owed favours
>>to their pet Jews.
>>
>>If even the honest Swiss, after giving sanctuary to the Jews in WWII
>>get swindled like this, no wonder less solvent nations have knuckled
>>under to the cursed Christkillers.
>>
>>No wonder Jews are hated, and despised, worldwide!!!


No doubt Poland will be the next country to be asked to make
"reparations" payments???


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On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
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2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 



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On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:

>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>
>DAILY MAIL
>Monday June 15 1998
>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>
>Revealed: The men accused in 
>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>to clear his name.
>
>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>
>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>where his wife and children live.
>
>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>to examine their records.
>
>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>network of companies and properties associated 
>with the family.
>
>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>
>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>
>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>end of this month.
>
>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>'revival of common decencies'.
>
>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>other cities in Britain.
>
>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>Britain today.'
>
>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
>
>--------------------------------------
>



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On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
Slepokura) wrote:

>Who lied about Demjanjuk?

>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment 

>by Yossi Melman

>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] 

>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**

>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close
>family
>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling -
>years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to
>Israel. 

>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>Court
>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>hope to reach.

>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive
>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>Judge George Paine of the
>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>ago. 

>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a
>lot
>more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's
>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office
>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>against Demjanjuk.

>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>being inefficient and
>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through
>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's
>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.

>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>Demjanjuk's extradition.
>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. 

>"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in
>the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then
>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>information at the time.
>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing
>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." 

>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael
>Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the
>Terrible. It was these doubts
>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose.
>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for
>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard
>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other
>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>Terrible." 

>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>investigation
>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim
>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>their legal advisers, who
>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>Cinncinnati trial
>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>judge,
>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to
>the court."
>The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. 

>Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale,
>and then
>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>situation of the black minority of
>one of the most racist southern states.

>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. 

>"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>organizations could have."

>Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and
>Nashville.

>"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis,
>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>universities." 

>[End]



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On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
Slepokura) wrote:

>Who lied about Demjanjuk?

>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment 

>by Yossi Melman

>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] 

>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**

>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close
>family
>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling -
>years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to
>Israel. 

>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>Court
>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>hope to reach.

>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive
>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>Judge George Paine of the
>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>ago. 

>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a
>lot
>more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's
>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office
>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>against Demjanjuk.

>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>being inefficient and
>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through
>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's
>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.

>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>Demjanjuk's extradition.
>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. 

>"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in
>the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then
>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>information at the time.
>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing
>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." 

>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael
>Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the
>Terrible. It was these doubts
>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose.
>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for
>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard
>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other
>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>Terrible." 

>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>investigation
>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim
>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>their legal advisers, who
>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>Cinncinnati trial
>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>judge,
>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to
>the court."
>The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. 

>Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale,
>and then
>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>situation of the black minority of
>one of the most racist southern states.

>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. 

>"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>organizations could have."

>Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and
>Nashville.

>"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis,
>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>universities." 

>[End]



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On 5 Sep 1998 19:10:18 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
SOB) wrote:

On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:44:52 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:


>> >> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> >> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> >> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:13:45 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <35e47543.1259242@news.nucleus.com>,  bjarnesson@hootmail.org
>wrote:
>
>> It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>> Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>> authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:18:12 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>On 18 Aug 1998 19:24:34 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>SOB) wrote:

>>Really, Mr. Grosvenor, you are not very good at concealing your
>>identity, and talking to yourself, while perhaps more satisfactory
>>than your trying to speak to anyone else, isn't all that effective
>>here on the net.

>So what? I rather enjoy his charade. Haven't you caught on yet that we
>love driving you Nizkooks up the wall? We are draining your time and
>resources you expend to ferret us out. We enjoy playing hide 'n' seek
>with you boobs. Matt Giwer has even been in a couple of times and you
>didn't even spot him!

>Heh Billy, the offer of a free Doc Tavish CD extends especially to you
>too! You really make Ken cry.

>				Doc Tavish
>You know my e-mail address!

>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Libraries at:
>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>http://?????????? nearly finished!
>http://???? number 3 starting construction!
>Fourth Branch Being Considered!!

It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
wrote:

Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.



>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
	telephone # 204-983-1829


>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 


>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.


>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca

>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>>	They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.

>>
> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
> >               letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.


> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> >               solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It's a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.


>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

> >Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.


> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"

> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':

>>  The League is working closely
> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
> >incidents directly to the National Office."

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.


> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests. 

>>That is putting it "lightly".

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.


>>nationalist@juno.com
>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>"http://www.natvan.com"

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.


>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>you've got me, eh?

>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>The Nizkor Project 
>c/o 
>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>15 Hove Street 
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>Name:________________________________________ 
>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13] 


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On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 



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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:58:34 -0500, Leonid Sklarov
 wrote:
>Moderate Hutu wrote:
>> Leonid Sklarov wrote in message <35AEFEAD.1FF1B3F2@sprintmail.com>...

>> >Measuring Gentiles by their attitude toward Jews serves one purpose only -
>> to see how decent those persons are.
>> ....
>> Should it mean that if a person likes Jews but hates all the others, that
>> person is decent?


>> Is it the reason that only Jews are deplored when one speaks about
>> Holocaust? 

>Hatemongers never were lacking "reasons" to deplore Jews, be it Jesus Christ
>killing, Crusades, poisoning of wells in mediveal Europe, Black Death,
>debts owed to Jewish money-lenders, rise of capitalism, rise of communism...
>you name it. Now Jews are "guilty"  of daring to mention Holocaust... What else
>is new?

People who have survived the occupation by the JEW Soviets, such as
those in the Baltics, and the few survivors of the genocide in
Ukraine, obviously have a different perspective.

After all, what can one expect from a people responsible for the
murder of Jesus Christ??



On 13 Oct 1997 20:53:52 GMT, ANitschke@t-online.de (Andreas Nitschke)
wrote:
>Roger Hughes wrote at 12.10.97 about "Bolsheviks Were JEWS, not Russians":

>> Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>> Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>> From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>> Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT

>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>> extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>Under Stalin the written law was not so important. It was one part of the
>propaganda. There were some good sounding laws. But they had not much to to
>with the brutal realitiy, including persecution of jews.

>Others said, that the jews were responsible for the bad sides of Capitalism  
>and so on.
>I think, that people who are against jews want to make them responsible for
>all bad things, which were happened in history.
>      Andreas Nitschke

>E-Mail: ANitschke@T-Online.de    Fido: 2:249/5090.3


Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
"Russian Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming
majority of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those
sympathetic to them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who
brings up these facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a
Jewish created and lead revolutionary movement.

	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his
father's side. Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant
importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance
to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today would probably identify
themselves as atheists, but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.


	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
U.S. Archives:         
         
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
         
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type." 
       
         
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government."         

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. 

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."


In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this
thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone
with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
calls himself Professor Gordon. 

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway.
This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
the agitators were Jews. 

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
Russians did not take kindly to it." 

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
April, 4, 1919) 
	
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
an American professor of Russian history. . . "  

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
Jewish Communist bosses.
  
Regards,
Roger Hughes

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In fact, it is the Jew communism that resulted in the deaths of more
than 100 million innocent people this century!!!

Jewish Links to Communism as Documented by Jews

>From Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book THE WAR AGAINST THE 
JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated 
(#13084-6, 1979 ed). 

Page 55 states:
 Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first
election after the expiration of [Germany's] 
Bismarck's anti-socialist law the Social Democrats 
amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology of 
the Social Democratic movement interpreted all
economic, social, and political phenomena in terms 
of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We also see 
that the majority of Jews were allied with this 
movement on page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews 
voted for the Social Democrats. Every democratic 
party received electoral and financial support from 
the Jews, the Social Democrats getting the greatest 
share."

Page 356 states:
"In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], 
the Communist party in a new guise made its appearance 
in the Generalgouvernement... The PPR is mentioned 
again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, 
for example, began in 1943 to back only such 
indigenous Communist resistance movements in the 
several East European countries as would provide it 
with postwar political footholds there. ... The Soviet 
Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the
People's Army with funds and materiel, on the 
calculation that it would establish the Communist 
presence in postwar Poland." For further proof of 
Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] 
and read the socialist and communist links : "The 
[Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact 
with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were 
isolated from their parent PPR." [The PPR is 
mentioned above.] The Jewish Judenrat leadership 
advised, starting on page 436: "One form of 
compromise between ghetto and the resistance 
movement was the option in Eastern areas for the 
Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. 
... The first thing the partisan learned, if he 
lived long enough, was that in defense of the 
Soviet Union no human cost was too high." 
[Who are these Jews loyal to?]
        
 Page 360 "Early in 1941 the  Bund's Central 
Committee in the Warsaw ghetto sent a report to 
its New York organization, describing its functions 
as it then perceived them... [Communists have a New
York operation!] the Bund's Central Committee 
adopted a policy statement setting forth their 
political hopes and expectations:

  Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal
  citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other
  Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist
  or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they
  always were. Together with the Polish working masses
  struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland
  see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitler-
  ism and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and
  Socialist Poland." [Jews want a Socialist Poland and
  they got it after WW II]

 Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation
 that avowed once more the movement's dual loyalty to
 Palestine and  socialism and which held out the hope of
 the inevitable  realization of a socialist Palestine:

  The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has tem-
  porarily separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there
  is no power in the world that can separate us from the
  struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate
  us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of
  Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse
  of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall
  with the success or failure of socialism."

[For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse! Read
this over and over many times to let it sink in!]

Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative
of the Left Labor Zionists, taking part in a clandestine
meeting of the underground Polish Communist front,
Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council]
spoke of victory with the political certitude of her party:

  In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social
  justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the
  whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the van-
  guard, are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their
  victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to
  the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and
  fascist governments. The working masses, the in-
  vincible forces of progress and true democracy will
  prevail in this historic struggle.

Maintaining the traditions of the movement became
a conspiratorial activity, yet served to uphold morale.
May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews were
enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists
visited as many members as they could locate,
reminding them of May Day, distributing little red-
ribbon boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold
on and hold out." In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a
fundraising campaign in the Warsaw ghetto on behalf
of the Jewish National Fund... "

[Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth
movements included Dror, associated with Labor
Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism
brought it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.."
The Jewish National Fund is still in America today!
 The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744
Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund-
raising organization for Palestine.]

Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly
organized several strikes and demonstrations, as they
had occasionally done before the war. But party sovereignty
persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a report of
March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave
its version of the political disharmony in the ghettos:

  The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no
  concern for the fate of the land where they live. The
  Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz
  are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the
  neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their
  periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine.
  They minimize the importance of the Allies for the
  future of their friends and our people. They tie their
  only hope to the USSR. The remaining former com-
  petitors [Aguda] passively await salvation

  The Bund historically held the Marxist view of
society in class conflict, its class-conscious bias deny-
ing the validity of national/ethnic group conscious-
ness."




On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:20:51 -0700, Milton Wong 
wrote:

>Communism was invented by the Jew Karl Marx. Many other leading
>communists were/are Jews, for example Trotsky.
>
>The communists would never have succeeded in seizing power anywhere in
>the world without help from the Jewish Bolsheviks.
>
>Many if not most spies for the Soviet Union and its allies were/are
>Jews.
>
>Even those Jews who call themselves "conservative" or "democratic" are
>eager to support communism in foreign countries, especially China. I
>noticed during the recent visit to the United States of the leader of
>the illegal Chinese communist regime that he was photographed with his
>good friends Henry Kissinger (Jew) and Madeline Albright (Jew).
>
>It is estimated that the Chinese communists have murdered 65 million
>innocent people. I look forward to the day when China is liberated from
>the communists. In my opinion, the communist party should then be made
>illegal, communist/marxist/socialist literature (such as "Das Kapital"
>by the Jew Karl Marx) should be burned, all communists should be
>executed, all foreign (read: Jewish) collaborators who have helped the
>communists should be executed, all private property that was confiscated
>by the communists should be returned to its rightful owners or their
>heirs (if they were not all murdered by the communists; otherwise such
>property should be given as compensation to other victims of communism),
>and all property of communists or the communist party should be given to
>the victims of communism.
>
>Notice how much attention the U.S. (Jewish-controlled) media give to the
>Nazis' alleged murder of 6 million Jews, and how little attention they
>give to the victims of (Jewish-invented and Jewish-supported) communism.
>The communists are estimated to have murdered 65 million people in
>China, 20 million in the Soviet Union, 2 million in Cambodia, 2 million
>in North Korea, 1.7 million in Africa, 1 million in Vietnam, 1 million
>in Eastern Europe, and 150,000 in South America.
>



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On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
Slepokura) wrote:

>Who lied about Demjanjuk?

>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment 

>by Yossi Melman

>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] 

>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**

>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close
>family
>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling -
>years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to
>Israel. 

>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>Court
>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>hope to reach.

>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive
>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>Judge George Paine of the
>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>ago. 

>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a
>lot
>more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's
>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office
>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>against Demjanjuk.

>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>being inefficient and
>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through
>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's
>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.

>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>Demjanjuk's extradition.
>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. 

>"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in
>the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then
>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>information at the time.
>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing
>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." 

>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael
>Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the
>Terrible. It was these doubts
>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose.
>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for
>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard
>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other
>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>Terrible." 

>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>investigation
>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim
>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>their legal advisers, who
>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>Cinncinnati trial
>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>judge,
>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to
>the court."
>The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. 

>Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale,
>and then
>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>situation of the black minority of
>one of the most racist southern states.

>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. 

>"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>organizations could have."

>Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and
>Nashville.

>"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis,
>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>universities." 

>[End]



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And don't forget KATYN, where 25000 Polish officers were murdered by
the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!!


On 9 Aug 1998 00:25:21 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:

>Hello,
>
>>
Subject: Re: Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust
>>From: frstmt22@aol.com (Frstmt22)
>>Date: Sat, Aug 8, 1998 19:51 EDT
>>Message-id: <1998080823515900.TAA15094@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>>
>>But you are not including the 7 to 9 million in the Ukraine put to death in
>>1930-32 by NON CHRISTIANS 
>>
> >KK> Exactly. He also forgets 12,000 Kashubs at Piasnica near Wejherowo, Poland. >They certainly did not go looking for trouble either. They all worked for their >money. > >Keith Kaszubik From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:13 EDT 1998 Article: 115062 of soc.culture.polish From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.nswpp,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Re: Jew Thieves Scream "Anti-Semitism!" Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. 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The case was >highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank >Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at >slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud. > >At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has >since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest >ever alleged welfare frauds. > >They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, >who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their >sprawling homes in a North London suburb. > >Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of >what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about >allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing >benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed >by officers from a special undercover task force set up by >the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage >fraud worth £31.2 million. > >The investigators are said to be checking on any links with >massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members >of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used >fake identities to make bogus benefit claims. > >Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the >ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, >North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation >has caused consider-able anger. > >At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, >Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight >to clear his name. > >'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete >waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances >are in good order. There has been no fraud. > >'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. >This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent >community which we have here. We just want to be able to >get on with our lives in peace. > >'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a >police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. >This should not have been allowed to happen.' > >Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached >at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no >comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home >as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home >where his wife and children live. > >Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm >which acts as the registered office for the majority of >the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted >by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing >to examine their records. > >Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a >network of companies and properties associated >with the family. > >All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein >are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford >Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties >Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home. > >Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties >since January and Amvex Investments since 1992. > >The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a >major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling >of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby. > >Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are >already overstretched by the criminal activity related >to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the >southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat. > > >Both men, together with three women and another man to >whom they are related are currently on bail and have to >return to Stoke Newington police station at the >end of this month. > >The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids >on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first >of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team. > >Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' >convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a >'revival of common decencies'. > >The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised >housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which >the Government now plans to extend right across the country. > >The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting >loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious >identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of >benefit allowances in various parts of London and >other cities in Britain. > >Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime >bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week. > >The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while >at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much >tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in >Britain today.' > >He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 >billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite >repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers. > >-------------------------------------- > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:13 EDT 1998 Article: 115064 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.australian Subject: Nizkor's terrorist connection, B'nai B'rith, keeps lists too! Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:25:16 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 635 Message-ID: <35f22a7f.773997@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <34806469.89821359@news.flanet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26502 pl.regionalne.lodz:354 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8598 soc.culture.polish:115064 soc.culture.australian:75749 On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote: >[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue] > > "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An >Insider's Expose" > >-or- > >"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American >Debate" > > by Gregory D. Slabodkin > > >During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in >the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were >ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry >was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail >by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the >percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice >that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed >resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination. > >Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel >Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle >open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East. > > >Secretly Circulated Lists > > > To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section >within its research department that monitors and keeps files on >politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish >liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel." AIPAC selects >information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the >"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed >by their statements, often totally out of context. > >Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled >criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti- >American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli >government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO." Still >worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to >include any such criticism of Israel or its actions. > > To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics >have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret >activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling >book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront >Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact >on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as >academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within >AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only >surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic >fact that no longer should be ignored. > > AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L. >(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly >_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly >titled column, "The Monitor." Besides monitoring, analyzing, and >responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United >States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies." In his final year >AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations. > > Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in >Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the >American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to >create a "truth squad." Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab >propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be >a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship. > > "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the >organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of >Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains. >"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students, >sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were >used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they >might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists, >politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and >writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other >professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of >anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The >intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish >community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind >would weaken the Jewish state." > > When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December >1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the >department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained >ever since. > > > Monitoring Israel's "Enemies" > > >Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not >follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with >polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more >concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying >organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically >during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of >intelligence gathering. > >Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, >dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira. >"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny >group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from >the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s. > >Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the >subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question >Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day >War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy >in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace >Now movement in Israel. > >However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. >the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead >AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by >discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were >motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti- >Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews." > >Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, >charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel." Only one >prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander >Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, >who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt." He was ignored, >however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set >the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as >who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules." > >As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political >Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish >leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most >loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli >policies, among Jews as well as gentiles." > >In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's >Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing >important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with >them in the political arena." AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists" >to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on >"anti-Israel" forces. > > >AIPAC's "War for Washington" > > >Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy, >who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded >AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for >Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of >"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was >particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning >to organize. > >In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee >to monitor Israel's "enemies." Goott was recruited from the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties. >In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC >members to send useful information to her in Washington. > >In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, >coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its >purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations >and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient >analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members." Yet, >despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective >descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than >a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics >of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory >of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be >monitored and discredited whenever possible. > >At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit > >Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own >document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and >Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's >employment by both organizations during the period both publications >were in preparation. > >"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals >listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are >'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book, >_Israel and the American National Interest_. "Pro-Israeli groups have >succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with >terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent >of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label >'pro-PLO.'" > >The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. >Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony >Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its >"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in >Boston, as does Lewis. > >Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In > >its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his >articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of >Israel. > >"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of >Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should >welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it. > >In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the >largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States, >unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both >national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such >activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty >and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually >inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific >students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who >'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt >anti-Semitism.'" > >When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit >Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions >annually. > >However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first >edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of >"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly. > > > Going Underground > > >AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided > >with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb. >Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office >of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the >Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely >associated with the pro-Israel lobby. > >He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis, >whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating >Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people. > >Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section, >innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house" >for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide >a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else." He has >provided negative information both to rival politicians and to >journalists about prominent individuals whom > > >AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel." > > >In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a >racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional >district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring >of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph >Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of >being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests." The brochure, featuring a >photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, >asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these >special interests. Do we?" > >What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that >Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic >sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and >included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA). >Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen, >lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support, >went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress. > >Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information > >on Alexander Cockburn." That followed a heated exchange between >Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the > >editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson >attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda." > >"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago >Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been >funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank >known as the PLO's bank." > >Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly >alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The >Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from >the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the >Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them, >editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to >"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure." > >Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story > >as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_. >Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in >1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was >"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against >Israel." In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed >individual contributors within the United States until it closed down >in 1983 due to a lack of funds. > >Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David >Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What >Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.' >Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of >views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that >the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports >to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does >not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist. >His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and >the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested >parties, is poor journalism." > >Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated >pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In >a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among >all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly >innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs >should enjoy freedom of speech." > > _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column >opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in >cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are >totally incorruptible." > >In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of >Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to >Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's >reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage >a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted. > >Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to >which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge >that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money. >Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money" >and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar >innuendo regarding Jewish financing. > >In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze >the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith >Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part, >Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid >being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.' She often achieves her goals by >presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case." > >In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David >Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991 >issue: > >"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the >politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of >Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would >put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that >she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering >quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue." > >There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's >strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior >AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of >their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to >"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance, >monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990 >internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues >director, Lewis boasted: > >"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working >behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that >impact is not always traceable to us." > >As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has >created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing >organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them. >This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates." AIPAC >rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has >installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office. >"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report >on Middle East Affairs_. > >Secret _Activities_ > >Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production >and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which >disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of >Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible >product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to >hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the >controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983 >publication of _The Campaign to > > >Discredit Israel_. > > > _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged >to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision >that AIPAC not be attributed as its source." _Activities_ is >distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers, >the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and >Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists >and academics. > >It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other >Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not >permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention >the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting >breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the >American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that >organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having >received an AIPAC study entitled > > >_Activities_. > > >Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to >Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will >probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is >nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it >is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just >accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of >these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of >_Activities_." > >Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National >Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish >Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for >Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish >Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs (JINSA). > >According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major > >Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures >that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces >both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are >focusing. > >Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC, >_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to >good advantage." > >One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was > >in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused >Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the >new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him >with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis >Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action >committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations >attributed to Zogby. > >When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name > >appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the >mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording. >_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990, >column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish >Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's >knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's >fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_, >from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken. > >Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter > >writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis >for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an >"anti-Semite." Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's >statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York. > >"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. > >"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the >information should not be attributed to AIPAC." > >Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued >that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy." >Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with >neo-McCarthyism: > >"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a >'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled, >political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I >were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and >AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but >vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can >create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur." > >Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous >fund-raisers." > > > Disingenuous Disclaiming > > >AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken >against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact, >it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous >disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies >neither endorsement nor criticism of any group." By distributing >derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in >effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your >enemies -- now go out and do something about it!" > >AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison >department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When >AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel" >personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments, >question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations >are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are >asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC >also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests >other strategies suited to the particular venue. > >Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in >1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional >director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference >on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College, >arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of >'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a >meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to >develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on >the speakers. > >Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at >Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled >on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips >from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up >at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given, >characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All >this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk >somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who >will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I >allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized >in unsigned pamphlets." > >Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally >hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that >AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel." Among politicians upon whom such >files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff >John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense >Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter >and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate >Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House >Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John >Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe >Rahall, James Traficant and many others. > > The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of >District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's >surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's >professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was >caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60 >Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed >generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital >affairs. > >AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" >journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC >maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan, >Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis, >Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among >others. > >Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for >"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment >industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen, >Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra >Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more. > > >"Have You No Shame?" > > > In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised >Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch >stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?" Only >after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as >intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out, >did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public >life. > >Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question >of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community >relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the >hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel >Fund (NIF). > >This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the >National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) >condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish >organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with >"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the >importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual >tolerance and civility." However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe >groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism >within more mainstream Jewish organizations. > >AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American >Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the >climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American >Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its >blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel." > >Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and >racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle >East. > >And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute >toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. > >[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an >opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee >(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.] > >Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or >write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009 > > NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The >Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END > > > >http://www.natall.com >http://www.natvan.com > >To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts >(the printed version of our weekly radio program), >mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the word >subscribe as the subject of your message. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:13 EDT 1998 Article: 115065 of soc.culture.polish From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Re: WARNING !!!Canadian Immigration Business Opportunity Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:43:53 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f82ef2.1913103@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35E9C984.439323C1@altavista.net> <35f03b3d.996858@news.nucleus.com> <6sk3ol$6rj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f70ff4.4766030@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6spijd$ojk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.baltics:14899 soc.culture.ukrainian:41222 soc.culture.polish:115065 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:29:34 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:52:04 -0700, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional >> >> >partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications. >> >> >Please reply in writing to: This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!! Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply to emigrate to canada. Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!! By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in Canada?? From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:57 EDT 1998 Article: 26476 of soc.culture.swiss From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,alt.nswpp,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.australian Subject: Jews Launder Drug Money Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:01:52 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 166 Message-ID: <35f1a6b0.1651122@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ab0659.72512947@news.unisource.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26476 soc.culture.palestine:51222 soc.culture.polish:114960 soc.culture.malaysia:167218 alt.nswpp:15986 alt.revisionism:202492 soc.culture.russian:91170 soc.culture.australian:75726 On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote: >Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic >(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for >their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by >the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they >are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and >conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their >assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to: >http://www.hoffman-info.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997 NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish community. At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug lords. "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the charges. Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico Building." In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the federal complaint. The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service -- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva, officials said. With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St. There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem. Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the federal complaint said. Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers. ================================================================= The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com News Bureau and Archives Online On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com (polis-etica) wrote: >One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is >through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and >synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the >laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy >possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions >badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They >transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious >institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors. >The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious >uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money >quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy >money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering >which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was >exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which >it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang >for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion >Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and >Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the >activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested >by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:57 EDT 1998 Article: 26477 of soc.culture.swiss Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jew Question=Jew Problem Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:03:37 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 250 Message-ID: <35f2a6d9.1691922@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6ooia7$s5r$1@osh2.datasync.com> <35B00F5A.3B877367@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91171 soc.culture.polish:114961 soc.culture.malaysia:167219 soc.culture.swiss:26477 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8587 pl.regionalne.lodz:345 On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:58:34 -0500, Leonid Sklarov wrote: >Moderate Hutu wrote: >> Leonid Sklarov wrote in message <35AEFEAD.1FF1B3F2@sprintmail.com>... >> >Measuring Gentiles by their attitude toward Jews serves one purpose only - >> to see how decent those persons are. >> .... >> Should it mean that if a person likes Jews but hates all the others, that >> person is decent? >> Is it the reason that only Jews are deplored when one speaks about >> Holocaust? >Hatemongers never were lacking "reasons" to deplore Jews, be it Jesus Christ >killing, Crusades, poisoning of wells in mediveal Europe, Black Death, >debts owed to Jewish money-lenders, rise of capitalism, rise of communism... >you name it. Now Jews are "guilty" of daring to mention Holocaust... What else >is new? People who have survived the occupation by the JEW Soviets, such as those in the Baltics, and the few survivors of the genocide in Ukraine, obviously have a different perspective. After all, what can one expect from a people responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ?? On 13 Oct 1997 20:53:52 GMT, ANitschke@t-online.de (Andreas Nitschke) wrote: >Roger Hughes wrote at 12.10.97 about "Bolsheviks Were JEWS, not Russians": >> Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org >> Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It >> From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) >> Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT >> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs >> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an >> extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of >> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death >> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). >Under Stalin the written law was not so important. It was one part of the >propaganda. There were some good sounding laws. But they had not much to to >with the brutal realitiy, including persecution of jews. >Others said, that the jews were responsible for the bad sides of Capitalism >and so on. >I think, that people who are against jews want to make them responsible for >all bad things, which were happened in history. > Andreas Nitschke >E-Mail: ANitschke@T-Online.de Fido: 2:249/5090.3 Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created and lead revolutionary movement. First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side. Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives: State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...." State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type." >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt. Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government." With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context, here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: "We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor Gordon. I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews. I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it." Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are "anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones: "The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920) "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April, 4, 1919) "Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935). "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin himself: "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left virtually untouched. It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . " Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses. Regards, Roger Hughes ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.natall.com http://www.natvan.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roger's Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/ Keep It White Because You Know It's Right! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:53:58 EDT 1998 Article: 26502 of soc.culture.swiss Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.australian Subject: Nizkor's terrorist connection, B'nai B'rith, keeps lists too! Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:25:16 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 635 Message-ID: <35f22a7f.773997@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <34806469.89821359@news.flanet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26502 pl.regionalne.lodz:354 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8598 soc.culture.polish:115064 soc.culture.australian:75749 On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote: >[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue] > > "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An >Insider's Expose" > >-or- > >"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American >Debate" > > by Gregory D. Slabodkin > > >During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in >the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were >ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry >was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail >by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the >percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice >that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed >resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination. > >Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel >Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle >open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East. > > >Secretly Circulated Lists > > > To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section >within its research department that monitors and keeps files on >politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish >liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel." AIPAC selects >information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the >"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed >by their statements, often totally out of context. > >Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled >criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti- >American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli >government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO." Still >worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to >include any such criticism of Israel or its actions. > > To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics >have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret >activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling >book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront >Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact >on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as >academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within >AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only >surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic >fact that no longer should be ignored. > > AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L. >(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly >_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly >titled column, "The Monitor." Besides monitoring, analyzing, and >responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United >States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies." In his final year >AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations. > > Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in >Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the >American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to >create a "truth squad." Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab >propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be >a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship. > > "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the >organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of >Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains. >"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students, >sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were >used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they >might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists, >politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and >writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other >professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of >anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The >intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish >community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind >would weaken the Jewish state." > > When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December >1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the >department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained >ever since. > > > Monitoring Israel's "Enemies" > > >Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not >follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with >polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more >concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying >organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically >during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of >intelligence gathering. > >Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, >dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira. >"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny >group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from >the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s. > >Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the >subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question >Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day >War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy >in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace >Now movement in Israel. > >However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. >the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead >AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by >discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were >motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti- >Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews." > >Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, >charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel." Only one >prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander >Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, >who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt." He was ignored, >however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set >the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as >who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules." > >As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political >Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish >leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most >loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli >policies, among Jews as well as gentiles." > >In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's >Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing >important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with >them in the political arena." AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists" >to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on >"anti-Israel" forces. > > >AIPAC's "War for Washington" > > >Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy, >who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded >AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for >Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of >"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was >particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning >to organize. > >In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee >to monitor Israel's "enemies." Goott was recruited from the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties. >In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC >members to send useful information to her in Washington. > >In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, >coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its >purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations >and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient >analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members." Yet, >despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective >descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than >a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics >of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory >of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be >monitored and discredited whenever possible. > >At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit > >Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own >document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and >Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's >employment by both organizations during the period both publications >were in preparation. > >"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals >listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are >'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book, >_Israel and the American National Interest_. "Pro-Israeli groups have >succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with >terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent >of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label >'pro-PLO.'" > >The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. >Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony >Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its >"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in >Boston, as does Lewis. > >Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In > >its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his >articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of >Israel. > >"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of >Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should >welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it. > >In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the >largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States, >unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both >national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such >activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty >and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually >inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific >students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who >'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt >anti-Semitism.'" > >When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit >Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions >annually. > >However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first >edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of >"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly. > > > Going Underground > > >AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided > >with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb. >Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office >of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the >Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely >associated with the pro-Israel lobby. > >He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis, >whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating >Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people. > >Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section, >innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house" >for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide >a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else." He has >provided negative information both to rival politicians and to >journalists about prominent individuals whom > > >AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel." > > >In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a >racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional >district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring >of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph >Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of >being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests." The brochure, featuring a >photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, >asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these >special interests. Do we?" > >What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that >Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic >sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and >included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA). >Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen, >lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support, >went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress. > >Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information > >on Alexander Cockburn." That followed a heated exchange between >Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the > >editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson >attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda." > >"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago >Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been >funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank >known as the PLO's bank." > >Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly >alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The >Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from >the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the >Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them, >editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to >"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure." > >Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story > >as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_. >Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in >1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was >"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against >Israel." In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed >individual contributors within the United States until it closed down >in 1983 due to a lack of funds. > >Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David >Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What >Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.' >Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of >views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that >the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports >to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does >not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist. >His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and >the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested >parties, is poor journalism." > >Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated >pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In >a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among >all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly >innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs >should enjoy freedom of speech." > > _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column >opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in >cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are >totally incorruptible." > >In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of >Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to >Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's >reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage >a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted. > >Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to >which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge >that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money. >Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money" >and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar >innuendo regarding Jewish financing. > >In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze >the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith >Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part, >Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid >being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.' She often achieves her goals by >presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case." > >In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David >Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991 >issue: > >"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the >politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of >Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would >put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that >she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering >quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue." > >There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's >strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior >AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of >their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to >"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance, >monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990 >internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues >director, Lewis boasted: > >"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working >behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that >impact is not always traceable to us." > >As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has >created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing >organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them. >This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates." AIPAC >rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has >installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office. >"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report >on Middle East Affairs_. > >Secret _Activities_ > >Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production >and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which >disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of >Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible >product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to >hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the >controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983 >publication of _The Campaign to > > >Discredit Israel_. > > > _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged >to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision >that AIPAC not be attributed as its source." _Activities_ is >distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers, >the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and >Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists >and academics. > >It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other >Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not >permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention >the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting >breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the >American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that >organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having >received an AIPAC study entitled > > >_Activities_. > > >Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to >Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will >probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is >nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it >is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just >accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of >these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of >_Activities_." > >Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National >Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish >Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for >Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish >Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs (JINSA). > >According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major > >Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures >that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces >both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are >focusing. > >Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC, >_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to >good advantage." > >One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was > >in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused >Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the >new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him >with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis >Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action >committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations >attributed to Zogby. > >When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name > >appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the >mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording. >_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990, >column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish >Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's >knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's >fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_, >from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken. > >Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter > >writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis >for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an >"anti-Semite." Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's >statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York. > >"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. > >"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the >information should not be attributed to AIPAC." > >Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued >that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy." >Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with >neo-McCarthyism: > >"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a >'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled, >political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I >were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and >AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but >vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can >create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur." > >Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous >fund-raisers." > > > Disingenuous Disclaiming > > >AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken >against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact, >it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous >disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies >neither endorsement nor criticism of any group." By distributing >derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in >effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your >enemies -- now go out and do something about it!" > >AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison >department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When >AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel" >personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments, >question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations >are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are >asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC >also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests >other strategies suited to the particular venue. > >Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in >1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional >director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference >on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College, >arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of >'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a >meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to >develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on >the speakers. > >Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at >Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled >on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips >from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up >at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given, >characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All >this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk >somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who >will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I >allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized >in unsigned pamphlets." > >Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally >hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that >AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel." Among politicians upon whom such >files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff >John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense >Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter >and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate >Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House >Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John >Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe >Rahall, James Traficant and many others. > > The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of >District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's >surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's >professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was >caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60 >Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed >generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital >affairs. > >AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" >journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC >maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan, >Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis, >Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among >others. > >Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for >"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment >industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen, >Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra >Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more. > > >"Have You No Shame?" > > > In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised >Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch >stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?" Only >after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as >intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out, >did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public >life. > >Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question >of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community >relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the >hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel >Fund (NIF). > >This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the >National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) >condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish >organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with >"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the >importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual >tolerance and civility." However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe >groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism >within more mainstream Jewish organizations. > >AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American >Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the >climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American >Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its >blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel." > >Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and >racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle >East. > >And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute >toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. > >[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an >opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee >(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.] > >Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or >write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009 > > NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The >Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END > > > >http://www.natall.com >http://www.natvan.com > >To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts >(the printed version of our weekly radio program), >mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the word >subscribe as the subject of your message. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:12 EDT 1998 Article: 41207 of soc.culture.ukrainian Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.wli.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.australian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jews are responsible for communism! Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 190 Message-ID: <35f3a729.1772194@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35B149F3.E9900912@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114962 soc.culture.russian:91172 soc.culture.ukrainian:41207 soc.culture.malaysia:167220 soc.culture.australian:75727 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8588 pl.regionalne.lodz:346 In fact, it is the Jew communism that resulted in the deaths of more than 100 million innocent people this century!!! Jewish Links to Communism as Documented by Jews >From Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed). Page 55 states: Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first election after the expiration of [Germany's] Bismarck's anti-socialist law the Social Democrats amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology of the Social Democratic movement interpreted all economic, social, and political phenomena in terms of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We also see that the majority of Jews were allied with this movement on page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews voted for the Social Democrats. Every democratic party received electoral and financial support from the Jews, the Social Democrats getting the greatest share." Page 356 states: "In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], the Communist party in a new guise made its appearance in the Generalgouvernement... The PPR is mentioned again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, for example, began in 1943 to back only such indigenous Communist resistance movements in the several East European countries as would provide it with postwar political footholds there. ... The Soviet Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the People's Army with funds and materiel, on the calculation that it would establish the Communist presence in postwar Poland." For further proof of Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] and read the socialist and communist links : "The [Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were isolated from their parent PPR." [The PPR is mentioned above.] The Jewish Judenrat leadership advised, starting on page 436: "One form of compromise between ghetto and the resistance movement was the option in Eastern areas for the Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. ... The first thing the partisan learned, if he lived long enough, was that in defense of the Soviet Union no human cost was too high." [Who are these Jews loyal to?] Page 360 "Early in 1941 the Bund's Central Committee in the Warsaw ghetto sent a report to its New York organization, describing its functions as it then perceived them... [Communists have a New York operation!] the Bund's Central Committee adopted a policy statement setting forth their political hopes and expectations: Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they always were. Together with the Polish working masses struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitler- ism and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and Socialist Poland." [Jews want a Socialist Poland and they got it after WW II] Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation that avowed once more the movement's dual loyalty to Palestine and socialism and which held out the hope of the inevitable realization of a socialist Palestine: The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has tem- porarily separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there is no power in the world that can separate us from the struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall with the success or failure of socialism." [For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse! Read this over and over many times to let it sink in!] Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative of the Left Labor Zionists, taking part in a clandestine meeting of the underground Polish Communist front, Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council] spoke of victory with the political certitude of her party: In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the van- guard, are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and fascist governments. The working masses, the in- vincible forces of progress and true democracy will prevail in this historic struggle. Maintaining the traditions of the movement became a conspiratorial activity, yet served to uphold morale. May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews were enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists visited as many members as they could locate, reminding them of May Day, distributing little red- ribbon boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold on and hold out." In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a fundraising campaign in the Warsaw ghetto on behalf of the Jewish National Fund... " [Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth movements included Dror, associated with Labor Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism brought it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.." The Jewish National Fund is still in America today! The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744 Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund- raising organization for Palestine.] Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly organized several strikes and demonstrations, as they had occasionally done before the war. But party sovereignty persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a report of March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave its version of the political disharmony in the ghettos: The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no concern for the fate of the land where they live. The Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine. They minimize the importance of the Allies for the future of their friends and our people. They tie their only hope to the USSR. The remaining former com- petitors [Aguda] passively await salvation The Bund historically held the Marxist view of society in class conflict, its class-conscious bias deny- ing the validity of national/ethnic group conscious- ness." On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:20:51 -0700, Milton Wong wrote: >Communism was invented by the Jew Karl Marx. Many other leading >communists were/are Jews, for example Trotsky. > >The communists would never have succeeded in seizing power anywhere in >the world without help from the Jewish Bolsheviks. > >Many if not most spies for the Soviet Union and its allies were/are >Jews. > >Even those Jews who call themselves "conservative" or "democratic" are >eager to support communism in foreign countries, especially China. I >noticed during the recent visit to the United States of the leader of >the illegal Chinese communist regime that he was photographed with his >good friends Henry Kissinger (Jew) and Madeline Albright (Jew). > >It is estimated that the Chinese communists have murdered 65 million >innocent people. I look forward to the day when China is liberated from >the communists. In my opinion, the communist party should then be made >illegal, communist/marxist/socialist literature (such as "Das Kapital" >by the Jew Karl Marx) should be burned, all communists should be >executed, all foreign (read: Jewish) collaborators who have helped the >communists should be executed, all private property that was confiscated >by the communists should be returned to its rightful owners or their >heirs (if they were not all murdered by the communists; otherwise such >property should be given as compensation to other victims of communism), >and all property of communists or the communist party should be given to >the victims of communism. > >Notice how much attention the U.S. (Jewish-controlled) media give to the >Nazis' alleged murder of 6 million Jews, and how little attention they >give to the victims of (Jewish-invented and Jewish-supported) communism. >The communists are estimated to have murdered 65 million people in >China, 20 million in the Soviet Union, 2 million in Cambodia, 2 million >in North Korea, 1.7 million in Africa, 1 million in Vietnam, 1 million >in Eastern Europe, and 150,000 in South America. > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:14 EDT 1998 Article: 41209 of soc.culture.ukrainian Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: can.legal,can.general,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Who lied about Demjanjuk? Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 180 Message-ID: <35f4a76d.1840488@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca can.legal:24882 can.general:124640 soc.culture.canada:158082 soc.culture.ukrainian:41209 soc.culture.polish:114964 On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura) wrote: >Who lied about Demjanjuk? >Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment >by Yossi Melman >[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998 >issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] >**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably >be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the >judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible, >and ordered his extradition to Israel.** >>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal >proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close >family >members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert >Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling - >years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible, >the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the >Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to >Israel. >At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish >organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme >Court >found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt >expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized >the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks >ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can >hope to reach. >Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive >experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal >world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt >was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including >Judge George Paine of the >Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations, >and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish >Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign >in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that >Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme >Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the >Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years >ago. >I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville, >Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a >lot >more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's >statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli >Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted >that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what >began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office >of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy >against Demjanjuk. >According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which >was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to >justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and >senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as >being inefficient and >unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms >to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators >who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This >was the background for the accelerated investigation against John >Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb >of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II >Demjanjuk had entered the United >States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past >on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities >stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and >the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through >Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now >director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's >extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was >not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and >Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk. >The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the >petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and >the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that >Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and >his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for >Demjanjuk's extradition. >Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he >was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on >appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. >"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in >the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then >they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but >they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the >information at the time. >If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to >Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing >short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in >Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI, >presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and >hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This >instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." >Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI >and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial >system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael >Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the >doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the >Terrible. It was these doubts >that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose. >And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a >noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for >the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who >worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard >about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been >introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other >crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he >is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for >being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the >Terrible." >Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it >reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an >investigation >of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of >violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim >was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and >their legal advisers, who >searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and >unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original >Cinncinnati trial >did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is >required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a >judge, >is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of >the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to >the court." >The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. >Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born >in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale, >and then >attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later >completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar, >Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the >largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was >appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal >prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights >to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the >situation of the black minority of >one of the most racist southern states. >In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District >Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the >court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a >Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton >and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. >"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my >demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion. >"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these >organizations could have." >Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They >strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and >explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the >all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred. >Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of >Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and >Nashville. >"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis, >bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several >universities." >[End] From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:15 EDT 1998 Article: 41222 of soc.culture.ukrainian From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Re: WARNING !!!Canadian Immigration Business Opportunity Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:43:53 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f82ef2.1913103@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35E9C984.439323C1@altavista.net> <35f03b3d.996858@news.nucleus.com> <6sk3ol$6rj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f70ff4.4766030@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6spijd$ojk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.baltics:14899 soc.culture.ukrainian:41222 soc.culture.polish:115065 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:29:34 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:52:04 -0700, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional >> >> >partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications. >> >> >Please reply in writing to: This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!! Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply to emigrate to canada. Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!! By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in Canada?? From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:47 EDT 1998 Article: 167218 of soc.culture.malaysia From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,alt.nswpp,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.australian Subject: Jews Launder Drug Money Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:01:52 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 166 Message-ID: <35f1a6b0.1651122@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ab0659.72512947@news.unisource.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26476 soc.culture.palestine:51222 soc.culture.polish:114960 soc.culture.malaysia:167218 alt.nswpp:15986 alt.revisionism:202492 soc.culture.russian:91170 soc.culture.australian:75726 On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote: >Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic >(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for >their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by >the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they >are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and >conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their >assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to: >http://www.hoffman-info.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997 NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish community. At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug lords. "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the charges. Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico Building." In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the federal complaint. The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service -- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva, officials said. With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St. There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem. Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the federal complaint said. Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers. ================================================================= The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com News Bureau and Archives Online On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com (polis-etica) wrote: >One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is >through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and >synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the >laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy >possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions >badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They >transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious >institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors. >The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious >uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money >quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy >money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering >which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was >exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which >it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang >for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion >Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and >Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the >activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested >by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:47 EDT 1998 Article: 167219 of soc.culture.malaysia Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jew Question=Jew Problem Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:03:37 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 250 Message-ID: <35f2a6d9.1691922@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6ooia7$s5r$1@osh2.datasync.com> <35B00F5A.3B877367@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91171 soc.culture.polish:114961 soc.culture.malaysia:167219 soc.culture.swiss:26477 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8587 pl.regionalne.lodz:345 On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:58:34 -0500, Leonid Sklarov wrote: >Moderate Hutu wrote: >> Leonid Sklarov wrote in message <35AEFEAD.1FF1B3F2@sprintmail.com>... >> >Measuring Gentiles by their attitude toward Jews serves one purpose only - >> to see how decent those persons are. >> .... >> Should it mean that if a person likes Jews but hates all the others, that >> person is decent? >> Is it the reason that only Jews are deplored when one speaks about >> Holocaust? >Hatemongers never were lacking "reasons" to deplore Jews, be it Jesus Christ >killing, Crusades, poisoning of wells in mediveal Europe, Black Death, >debts owed to Jewish money-lenders, rise of capitalism, rise of communism... >you name it. Now Jews are "guilty" of daring to mention Holocaust... What else >is new? People who have survived the occupation by the JEW Soviets, such as those in the Baltics, and the few survivors of the genocide in Ukraine, obviously have a different perspective. After all, what can one expect from a people responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ?? On 13 Oct 1997 20:53:52 GMT, ANitschke@t-online.de (Andreas Nitschke) wrote: >Roger Hughes wrote at 12.10.97 about "Bolsheviks Were JEWS, not Russians": >> Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org >> Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It >> From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) >> Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT >> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs >> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an >> extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of >> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death >> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). >Under Stalin the written law was not so important. It was one part of the >propaganda. There were some good sounding laws. But they had not much to to >with the brutal realitiy, including persecution of jews. >Others said, that the jews were responsible for the bad sides of Capitalism >and so on. >I think, that people who are against jews want to make them responsible for >all bad things, which were happened in history. > Andreas Nitschke >E-Mail: ANitschke@T-Online.de Fido: 2:249/5090.3 Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created and lead revolutionary movement. First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side. Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives: State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...." State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type." >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt. Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government." With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context, here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: "We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor Gordon. I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews. I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it." Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are "anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones: "The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920) "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April, 4, 1919) "Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935). "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin himself: "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left virtually untouched. It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . " Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses. Regards, Roger Hughes ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.natall.com http://www.natvan.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roger's Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/ Keep It White Because You Know It's Right! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:54:48 EDT 1998 Article: 167220 of soc.culture.malaysia Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.wli.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.australian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jews are responsible for communism! Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 190 Message-ID: <35f3a729.1772194@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35B149F3.E9900912@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114962 soc.culture.russian:91172 soc.culture.ukrainian:41207 soc.culture.malaysia:167220 soc.culture.australian:75727 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8588 pl.regionalne.lodz:346 In fact, it is the Jew communism that resulted in the deaths of more than 100 million innocent people this century!!! Jewish Links to Communism as Documented by Jews >From Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed). Page 55 states: Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first election after the expiration of [Germany's] Bismarck's anti-socialist law the Social Democrats amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology of the Social Democratic movement interpreted all economic, social, and political phenomena in terms of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We also see that the majority of Jews were allied with this movement on page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews voted for the Social Democrats. Every democratic party received electoral and financial support from the Jews, the Social Democrats getting the greatest share." Page 356 states: "In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], the Communist party in a new guise made its appearance in the Generalgouvernement... The PPR is mentioned again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, for example, began in 1943 to back only such indigenous Communist resistance movements in the several East European countries as would provide it with postwar political footholds there. ... The Soviet Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the People's Army with funds and materiel, on the calculation that it would establish the Communist presence in postwar Poland." For further proof of Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] and read the socialist and communist links : "The [Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were isolated from their parent PPR." [The PPR is mentioned above.] The Jewish Judenrat leadership advised, starting on page 436: "One form of compromise between ghetto and the resistance movement was the option in Eastern areas for the Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. ... The first thing the partisan learned, if he lived long enough, was that in defense of the Soviet Union no human cost was too high." [Who are these Jews loyal to?] Page 360 "Early in 1941 the Bund's Central Committee in the Warsaw ghetto sent a report to its New York organization, describing its functions as it then perceived them... [Communists have a New York operation!] the Bund's Central Committee adopted a policy statement setting forth their political hopes and expectations: Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they always were. Together with the Polish working masses struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitler- ism and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and Socialist Poland." [Jews want a Socialist Poland and they got it after WW II] Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation that avowed once more the movement's dual loyalty to Palestine and socialism and which held out the hope of the inevitable realization of a socialist Palestine: The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has tem- porarily separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there is no power in the world that can separate us from the struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall with the success or failure of socialism." [For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse! Read this over and over many times to let it sink in!] Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative of the Left Labor Zionists, taking part in a clandestine meeting of the underground Polish Communist front, Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council] spoke of victory with the political certitude of her party: In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the van- guard, are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and fascist governments. The working masses, the in- vincible forces of progress and true democracy will prevail in this historic struggle. Maintaining the traditions of the movement became a conspiratorial activity, yet served to uphold morale. May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews were enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists visited as many members as they could locate, reminding them of May Day, distributing little red- ribbon boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold on and hold out." In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a fundraising campaign in the Warsaw ghetto on behalf of the Jewish National Fund... " [Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth movements included Dror, associated with Labor Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism brought it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.." The Jewish National Fund is still in America today! The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744 Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund- raising organization for Palestine.] Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly organized several strikes and demonstrations, as they had occasionally done before the war. But party sovereignty persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a report of March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave its version of the political disharmony in the ghettos: The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no concern for the fate of the land where they live. The Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine. They minimize the importance of the Allies for the future of their friends and our people. They tie their only hope to the USSR. The remaining former com- petitors [Aguda] passively await salvation The Bund historically held the Marxist view of society in class conflict, its class-conscious bias deny- ing the validity of national/ethnic group conscious- ness." On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:20:51 -0700, Milton Wong wrote: >Communism was invented by the Jew Karl Marx. Many other leading >communists were/are Jews, for example Trotsky. > >The communists would never have succeeded in seizing power anywhere in >the world without help from the Jewish Bolsheviks. > >Many if not most spies for the Soviet Union and its allies were/are >Jews. > >Even those Jews who call themselves "conservative" or "democratic" are >eager to support communism in foreign countries, especially China. I >noticed during the recent visit to the United States of the leader of >the illegal Chinese communist regime that he was photographed with his >good friends Henry Kissinger (Jew) and Madeline Albright (Jew). > >It is estimated that the Chinese communists have murdered 65 million >innocent people. I look forward to the day when China is liberated from >the communists. In my opinion, the communist party should then be made >illegal, communist/marxist/socialist literature (such as "Das Kapital" >by the Jew Karl Marx) should be burned, all communists should be >executed, all foreign (read: Jewish) collaborators who have helped the >communists should be executed, all private property that was confiscated >by the communists should be returned to its rightful owners or their >heirs (if they were not all murdered by the communists; otherwise such >property should be given as compensation to other victims of communism), >and all property of communists or the communist party should be given to >the victims of communism. > >Notice how much attention the U.S. (Jewish-controlled) media give to the >Nazis' alleged murder of 6 million Jews, and how little attention they >give to the victims of (Jewish-invented and Jewish-supported) communism. >The communists are estimated to have murdered 65 million people in >China, 20 million in the Soviet Union, 2 million in Cambodia, 2 million >in North Korea, 1.7 million in Africa, 1 million in Vietnam, 1 million >in Eastern Europe, and 150,000 in South America. > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:39 EDT 1998 Article: 345 of pl.regionalne.lodz Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jew Question=Jew Problem Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:03:37 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 250 Message-ID: <35f2a6d9.1691922@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6ooia7$s5r$1@osh2.datasync.com> <35B00F5A.3B877367@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91171 soc.culture.polish:114961 soc.culture.malaysia:167219 soc.culture.swiss:26477 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8587 pl.regionalne.lodz:345 On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:58:34 -0500, Leonid Sklarov wrote: >Moderate Hutu wrote: >> Leonid Sklarov wrote in message <35AEFEAD.1FF1B3F2@sprintmail.com>... >> >Measuring Gentiles by their attitude toward Jews serves one purpose only - >> to see how decent those persons are. >> .... >> Should it mean that if a person likes Jews but hates all the others, that >> person is decent? >> Is it the reason that only Jews are deplored when one speaks about >> Holocaust? >Hatemongers never were lacking "reasons" to deplore Jews, be it Jesus Christ >killing, Crusades, poisoning of wells in mediveal Europe, Black Death, >debts owed to Jewish money-lenders, rise of capitalism, rise of communism... >you name it. Now Jews are "guilty" of daring to mention Holocaust... What else >is new? People who have survived the occupation by the JEW Soviets, such as those in the Baltics, and the few survivors of the genocide in Ukraine, obviously have a different perspective. After all, what can one expect from a people responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ?? On 13 Oct 1997 20:53:52 GMT, ANitschke@t-online.de (Andreas Nitschke) wrote: >Roger Hughes wrote at 12.10.97 about "Bolsheviks Were JEWS, not Russians": >> Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org >> Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It >> From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) >> Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT >> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs >> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an >> extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of >> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death >> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). >Under Stalin the written law was not so important. It was one part of the >propaganda. There were some good sounding laws. But they had not much to to >with the brutal realitiy, including persecution of jews. >Others said, that the jews were responsible for the bad sides of Capitalism >and so on. >I think, that people who are against jews want to make them responsible for >all bad things, which were happened in history. > Andreas Nitschke >E-Mail: ANitschke@T-Online.de Fido: 2:249/5090.3 Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created and lead revolutionary movement. First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side. Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives: State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...." State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type." >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt. Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government." With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context, here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: "We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor Gordon. I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews. I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it." Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are "anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones: "The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920) "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April, 4, 1919) "Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935). "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin himself: "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left virtually untouched. It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . " Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses. Regards, Roger Hughes ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.natall.com http://www.natvan.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roger's Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/ Keep It White Because You Know It's Right! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:40 EDT 1998 Article: 346 of pl.regionalne.lodz Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.wli.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.australian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jews are responsible for communism! Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 190 Message-ID: <35f3a729.1772194@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35B149F3.E9900912@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114962 soc.culture.russian:91172 soc.culture.ukrainian:41207 soc.culture.malaysia:167220 soc.culture.australian:75727 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8588 pl.regionalne.lodz:346 In fact, it is the Jew communism that resulted in the deaths of more than 100 million innocent people this century!!! Jewish Links to Communism as Documented by Jews >From Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed). Page 55 states: Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first election after the expiration of [Germany's] Bismarck's anti-socialist law the Social Democrats amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology of the Social Democratic movement interpreted all economic, social, and political phenomena in terms of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We also see that the majority of Jews were allied with this movement on page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews voted for the Social Democrats. Every democratic party received electoral and financial support from the Jews, the Social Democrats getting the greatest share." Page 356 states: "In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], the Communist party in a new guise made its appearance in the Generalgouvernement... The PPR is mentioned again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, for example, began in 1943 to back only such indigenous Communist resistance movements in the several East European countries as would provide it with postwar political footholds there. ... The Soviet Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the People's Army with funds and materiel, on the calculation that it would establish the Communist presence in postwar Poland." For further proof of Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] and read the socialist and communist links : "The [Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were isolated from their parent PPR." [The PPR is mentioned above.] The Jewish Judenrat leadership advised, starting on page 436: "One form of compromise between ghetto and the resistance movement was the option in Eastern areas for the Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. ... The first thing the partisan learned, if he lived long enough, was that in defense of the Soviet Union no human cost was too high." [Who are these Jews loyal to?] Page 360 "Early in 1941 the Bund's Central Committee in the Warsaw ghetto sent a report to its New York organization, describing its functions as it then perceived them... [Communists have a New York operation!] the Bund's Central Committee adopted a policy statement setting forth their political hopes and expectations: Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they always were. Together with the Polish working masses struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitler- ism and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and Socialist Poland." [Jews want a Socialist Poland and they got it after WW II] Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation that avowed once more the movement's dual loyalty to Palestine and socialism and which held out the hope of the inevitable realization of a socialist Palestine: The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has tem- porarily separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there is no power in the world that can separate us from the struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall with the success or failure of socialism." [For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse! Read this over and over many times to let it sink in!] Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative of the Left Labor Zionists, taking part in a clandestine meeting of the underground Polish Communist front, Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council] spoke of victory with the political certitude of her party: In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the van- guard, are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and fascist governments. The working masses, the in- vincible forces of progress and true democracy will prevail in this historic struggle. Maintaining the traditions of the movement became a conspiratorial activity, yet served to uphold morale. May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews were enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists visited as many members as they could locate, reminding them of May Day, distributing little red- ribbon boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold on and hold out." In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a fundraising campaign in the Warsaw ghetto on behalf of the Jewish National Fund... " [Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth movements included Dror, associated with Labor Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism brought it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.." The Jewish National Fund is still in America today! The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744 Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund- raising organization for Palestine.] Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly organized several strikes and demonstrations, as they had occasionally done before the war. But party sovereignty persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a report of March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave its version of the political disharmony in the ghettos: The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no concern for the fate of the land where they live. The Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine. They minimize the importance of the Allies for the future of their friends and our people. They tie their only hope to the USSR. The remaining former com- petitors [Aguda] passively await salvation The Bund historically held the Marxist view of society in class conflict, its class-conscious bias deny- ing the validity of national/ethnic group conscious- ness." On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:20:51 -0700, Milton Wong wrote: >Communism was invented by the Jew Karl Marx. Many other leading >communists were/are Jews, for example Trotsky. > >The communists would never have succeeded in seizing power anywhere in >the world without help from the Jewish Bolsheviks. > >Many if not most spies for the Soviet Union and its allies were/are >Jews. > >Even those Jews who call themselves "conservative" or "democratic" are >eager to support communism in foreign countries, especially China. I >noticed during the recent visit to the United States of the leader of >the illegal Chinese communist regime that he was photographed with his >good friends Henry Kissinger (Jew) and Madeline Albright (Jew). > >It is estimated that the Chinese communists have murdered 65 million >innocent people. I look forward to the day when China is liberated from >the communists. In my opinion, the communist party should then be made >illegal, communist/marxist/socialist literature (such as "Das Kapital" >by the Jew Karl Marx) should be burned, all communists should be >executed, all foreign (read: Jewish) collaborators who have helped the >communists should be executed, all private property that was confiscated >by the communists should be returned to its rightful owners or their >heirs (if they were not all murdered by the communists; otherwise such >property should be given as compensation to other victims of communism), >and all property of communists or the communist party should be given to >the victims of communism. > >Notice how much attention the U.S. (Jewish-controlled) media give to the >Nazis' alleged murder of 6 million Jews, and how little attention they >give to the victims of (Jewish-invented and Jewish-supported) communism. >The communists are estimated to have murdered 65 million people in >China, 20 million in the Soviet Union, 2 million in Cambodia, 2 million >in North Korea, 1.7 million in Africa, 1 million in Vietnam, 1 million >in Eastern Europe, and 150,000 in South America. > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:40 EDT 1998 Article: 347 of pl.regionalne.lodz Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!nntp.cadvision.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.krakau Subject: Non-Jew Victims of the Holohoax Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:06:24 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f6a79d.1888398@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <1998080823515900.TAA15094@ladder03.news.aol.com> <1998080900252100.UAA18736@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114965 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8590 pl.regionalne.lodz:347 And don't forget KATYN, where 25000 Polish officers were murdered by the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!! On 9 Aug 1998 00:25:21 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote: >Hello, > >>
Subject: Re: Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust
>>From: frstmt22@aol.com (Frstmt22)
>>Date: Sat, Aug 8, 1998 19:51 EDT
>>Message-id: <1998080823515900.TAA15094@ladder03.news.aol.com>
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>>But you are not including the 7 to 9 million in the Ukraine put to death in
>>1930-32 by NON CHRISTIANS 
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> >KK> Exactly. He also forgets 12,000 Kashubs at Piasnica near Wejherowo, Poland. >They certainly did not go looking for trouble either. They all worked for their >money. > >Keith Kaszubik From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:41 EDT 1998 Article: 353 of pl.regionalne.lodz From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.nswpp,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Re: Jew Thieves Scream "Anti-Semitism!" Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 133 Message-ID: <35f32b1f.933894@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6mn1dk$532@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca alt.politics.nationalism.white:109949 alt.politics.white-power:139375 alt.nswpp:15993 alt.revisionism:202581 soc.culture.australian:75748 soc.culture.polish:115062 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8597 pl.regionalne.lodz:353 On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote: >LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History > >DAILY MAIL >Monday June 15 1998 >By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN > > >Revealed: The men accused in >31.8 million State Benefit Racket > >THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters >over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was >highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank >Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at >slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud. > >At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has >since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest >ever alleged welfare frauds. > >They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, >who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their >sprawling homes in a North London suburb. > >Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of >what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about >allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing >benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed >by officers from a special undercover task force set up by >the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage >fraud worth £31.2 million. > >The investigators are said to be checking on any links with >massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members >of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used >fake identities to make bogus benefit claims. > >Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the >ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, >North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation >has caused consider-able anger. > >At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, >Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight >to clear his name. > >'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete >waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances >are in good order. There has been no fraud. > >'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. >This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent >community which we have here. We just want to be able to >get on with our lives in peace. > >'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a >police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. >This should not have been allowed to happen.' > >Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached >at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no >comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home >as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home >where his wife and children live. > >Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm >which acts as the registered office for the majority of >the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted >by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing >to examine their records. > >Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a >network of companies and properties associated >with the family. > >All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein >are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford >Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties >Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home. > >Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties >since January and Amvex Investments since 1992. > >The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a >major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling >of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby. > >Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are >already overstretched by the criminal activity related >to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the >southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat. > > >Both men, together with three women and another man to >whom they are related are currently on bail and have to >return to Stoke Newington police station at the >end of this month. > >The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids >on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first >of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team. > >Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' >convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a >'revival of common decencies'. > >The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised >housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which >the Government now plans to extend right across the country. > >The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting >loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious >identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of >benefit allowances in various parts of London and >other cities in Britain. > >Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime >bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week. > >The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while >at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much >tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in >Britain today.' > >He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 >billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite >repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers. > >-------------------------------------- > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:42 EDT 1998 Article: 354 of pl.regionalne.lodz Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.australian Subject: Nizkor's terrorist connection, B'nai B'rith, keeps lists too! Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:25:16 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 635 Message-ID: <35f22a7f.773997@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <34806469.89821359@news.flanet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26502 pl.regionalne.lodz:354 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8598 soc.culture.polish:115064 soc.culture.australian:75749 On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote: >[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue] > > "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An >Insider's Expose" > >-or- > >"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American >Debate" > > by Gregory D. Slabodkin > > >During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in >the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were >ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry >was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail >by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the >percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice >that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed >resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination. > >Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel >Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle >open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East. > > >Secretly Circulated Lists > > > To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section >within its research department that monitors and keeps files on >politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish >liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel." AIPAC selects >information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the >"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed >by their statements, often totally out of context. > >Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled >criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti- >American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli >government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO." Still >worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to >include any such criticism of Israel or its actions. > > To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics >have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret >activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling >book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront >Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact >on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as >academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within >AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only >surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic >fact that no longer should be ignored. > > AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L. >(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly >_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly >titled column, "The Monitor." Besides monitoring, analyzing, and >responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United >States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies." In his final year >AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations. > > Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in >Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the >American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to >create a "truth squad." Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab >propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be >a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship. > > "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the >organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of >Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains. >"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students, >sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were >used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they >might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists, >politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and >writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other >professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of >anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The >intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish >community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind >would weaken the Jewish state." > > When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December >1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the >department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained >ever since. > > > Monitoring Israel's "Enemies" > > >Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not >follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with >polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more >concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying >organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically >during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of >intelligence gathering. > >Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, >dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira. >"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny >group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from >the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s. > >Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the >subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question >Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day >War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy >in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace >Now movement in Israel. > >However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. >the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead >AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by >discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were >motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti- >Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews." > >Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, >charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel." Only one >prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander >Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, >who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt." He was ignored, >however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set >the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as >who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules." > >As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political >Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish >leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most >loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli >policies, among Jews as well as gentiles." > >In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's >Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing >important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with >them in the political arena." AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists" >to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on >"anti-Israel" forces. > > >AIPAC's "War for Washington" > > >Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy, >who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded >AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for >Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of >"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was >particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning >to organize. > >In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee >to monitor Israel's "enemies." Goott was recruited from the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties. >In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC >members to send useful information to her in Washington. > >In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, >coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its >purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations >and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient >analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members." Yet, >despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective >descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than >a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics >of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory >of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be >monitored and discredited whenever possible. > >At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit > >Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own >document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and >Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's >employment by both organizations during the period both publications >were in preparation. > >"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals >listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are >'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book, >_Israel and the American National Interest_. "Pro-Israeli groups have >succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with >terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent >of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label >'pro-PLO.'" > >The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. >Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony >Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its >"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in >Boston, as does Lewis. > >Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In > >its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his >articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of >Israel. > >"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of >Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should >welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it. > >In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the >largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States, >unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both >national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such >activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty >and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually >inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific >students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who >'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt >anti-Semitism.'" > >When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit >Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions >annually. > >However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first >edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of >"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly. > > > Going Underground > > >AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided > >with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb. >Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office >of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the >Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely >associated with the pro-Israel lobby. > >He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis, >whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating >Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people. > >Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section, >innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house" >for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide >a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else." He has >provided negative information both to rival politicians and to >journalists about prominent individuals whom > > >AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel." > > >In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a >racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional >district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring >of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph >Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of >being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests." The brochure, featuring a >photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, >asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these >special interests. Do we?" > >What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that >Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic >sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and >included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA). >Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen, >lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support, >went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress. > >Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information > >on Alexander Cockburn." That followed a heated exchange between >Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the > >editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson >attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda." > >"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago >Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been >funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank >known as the PLO's bank." > >Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly >alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The >Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from >the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the >Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them, >editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to >"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure." > >Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story > >as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_. >Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in >1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was >"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against >Israel." In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed >individual contributors within the United States until it closed down >in 1983 due to a lack of funds. > >Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David >Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What >Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.' >Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of >views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that >the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports >to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does >not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist. >His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and >the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested >parties, is poor journalism." > >Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated >pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In >a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among >all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly >innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs >should enjoy freedom of speech." > > _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column >opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in >cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are >totally incorruptible." > >In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of >Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to >Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's >reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage >a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted. > >Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to >which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge >that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money. >Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money" >and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar >innuendo regarding Jewish financing. > >In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze >the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith >Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part, >Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid >being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.' She often achieves her goals by >presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case." > >In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David >Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991 >issue: > >"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the >politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of >Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would >put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that >she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering >quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue." > >There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's >strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior >AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of >their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to >"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance, >monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990 >internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues >director, Lewis boasted: > >"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working >behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that >impact is not always traceable to us." > >As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has >created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing >organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them. >This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates." AIPAC >rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has >installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office. >"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report >on Middle East Affairs_. > >Secret _Activities_ > >Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production >and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which >disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of >Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible >product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to >hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the >controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983 >publication of _The Campaign to > > >Discredit Israel_. > > > _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged >to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision >that AIPAC not be attributed as its source." _Activities_ is >distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers, >the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and >Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists >and academics. > >It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other >Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not >permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention >the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting >breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the >American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that >organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having >received an AIPAC study entitled > > >_Activities_. > > >Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to >Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will >probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is >nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it >is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just >accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of >these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of >_Activities_." > >Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National >Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish >Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for >Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish >Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs (JINSA). > >According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major > >Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures >that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces >both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are >focusing. > >Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC, >_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to >good advantage." > >One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was > >in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused >Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the >new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him >with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis >Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action >committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations >attributed to Zogby. > >When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name > >appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the >mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording. >_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990, >column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish >Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's >knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's >fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_, >from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken. > >Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter > >writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis >for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an >"anti-Semite." Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's >statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York. > >"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. > >"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the >information should not be attributed to AIPAC." > >Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued >that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy." >Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with >neo-McCarthyism: > >"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a >'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled, >political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I >were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and >AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but >vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can >create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur." > >Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous >fund-raisers." > > > Disingenuous Disclaiming > > >AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken >against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact, >it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous >disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies >neither endorsement nor criticism of any group." By distributing >derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in >effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your >enemies -- now go out and do something about it!" > >AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison >department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When >AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel" >personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments, >question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations >are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are >asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC >also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests >other strategies suited to the particular venue. > >Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in >1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional >director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference >on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College, >arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of >'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a >meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to >develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on >the speakers. > >Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at >Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled >on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips >from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up >at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given, >characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All >this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk >somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who >will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I >allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized >in unsigned pamphlets." > >Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally >hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that >AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel." Among politicians upon whom such >files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff >John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense >Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter >and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate >Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House >Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John >Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe >Rahall, James Traficant and many others. > > The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of >District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's >surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's >professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was >caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60 >Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed >generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital >affairs. > >AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" >journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC >maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan, >Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis, >Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among >others. > >Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for >"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment >industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen, >Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra >Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more. > > >"Have You No Shame?" > > > In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised >Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch >stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?" Only >after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as >intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out, >did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public >life. > >Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question >of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community >relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the >hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel >Fund (NIF). > >This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the >National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) >condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish >organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with >"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the >importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual >tolerance and civility." However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe >groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism >within more mainstream Jewish organizations. > >AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American >Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the >climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American >Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its >blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel." > >Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and >racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle >East. > >And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute >toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. > >[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an >opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee >(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.] > >Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or >write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009 > > NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The >Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END > > > >http://www.natall.com >http://www.natvan.com > >To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts >(the printed version of our weekly radio program), >mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the word >subscribe as the subject of your message. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:57 EDT 1998 Article: 8587 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jew Question=Jew Problem Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:03:37 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 250 Message-ID: <35f2a6d9.1691922@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6ooia7$s5r$1@osh2.datasync.com> <35B00F5A.3B877367@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91171 soc.culture.polish:114961 soc.culture.malaysia:167219 soc.culture.swiss:26477 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8587 pl.regionalne.lodz:345 On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:58:34 -0500, Leonid Sklarov wrote: >Moderate Hutu wrote: >> Leonid Sklarov wrote in message <35AEFEAD.1FF1B3F2@sprintmail.com>... >> >Measuring Gentiles by their attitude toward Jews serves one purpose only - >> to see how decent those persons are. >> .... >> Should it mean that if a person likes Jews but hates all the others, that >> person is decent? >> Is it the reason that only Jews are deplored when one speaks about >> Holocaust? >Hatemongers never were lacking "reasons" to deplore Jews, be it Jesus Christ >killing, Crusades, poisoning of wells in mediveal Europe, Black Death, >debts owed to Jewish money-lenders, rise of capitalism, rise of communism... >you name it. Now Jews are "guilty" of daring to mention Holocaust... What else >is new? People who have survived the occupation by the JEW Soviets, such as those in the Baltics, and the few survivors of the genocide in Ukraine, obviously have a different perspective. After all, what can one expect from a people responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ?? On 13 Oct 1997 20:53:52 GMT, ANitschke@t-online.de (Andreas Nitschke) wrote: >Roger Hughes wrote at 12.10.97 about "Bolsheviks Were JEWS, not Russians": >> Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org >> Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It >> From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) >> Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT >> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs >> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an >> extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of >> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death >> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). >Under Stalin the written law was not so important. It was one part of the >propaganda. There were some good sounding laws. But they had not much to to >with the brutal realitiy, including persecution of jews. >Others said, that the jews were responsible for the bad sides of Capitalism >and so on. >I think, that people who are against jews want to make them responsible for >all bad things, which were happened in history. > Andreas Nitschke >E-Mail: ANitschke@T-Online.de Fido: 2:249/5090.3 Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes) Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created and lead revolutionary movement. First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side. Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives: State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...." State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type." >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt. Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government." With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky. David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context, here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress: "We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest startling information, given me by someone with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor Gordon. I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews. I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it." Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are "anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones: "The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920) "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April, 4, 1919) "Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935). "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin himself: "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30). While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left virtually untouched. It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . " Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses. Regards, Roger Hughes ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.natall.com http://www.natvan.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Roger's Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/ Keep It White Because You Know It's Right! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:58 EDT 1998 Article: 8588 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.wli.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.australian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Jews are responsible for communism! Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 190 Message-ID: <35f3a729.1772194@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35B149F3.E9900912@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114962 soc.culture.russian:91172 soc.culture.ukrainian:41207 soc.culture.malaysia:167220 soc.culture.australian:75727 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8588 pl.regionalne.lodz:346 In fact, it is the Jew communism that resulted in the deaths of more than 100 million innocent people this century!!! Jewish Links to Communism as Documented by Jews >From Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945 by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed). Page 55 states: Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first election after the expiration of [Germany's] Bismarck's anti-socialist law the Social Democrats amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology of the Social Democratic movement interpreted all economic, social, and political phenomena in terms of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We also see that the majority of Jews were allied with this movement on page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews voted for the Social Democrats. Every democratic party received electoral and financial support from the Jews, the Social Democrats getting the greatest share." Page 356 states: "In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], the Communist party in a new guise made its appearance in the Generalgouvernement... The PPR is mentioned again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, for example, began in 1943 to back only such indigenous Communist resistance movements in the several East European countries as would provide it with postwar political footholds there. ... The Soviet Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the People's Army with funds and materiel, on the calculation that it would establish the Communist presence in postwar Poland." For further proof of Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] and read the socialist and communist links : "The [Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off from contact with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were isolated from their parent PPR." [The PPR is mentioned above.] The Jewish Judenrat leadership advised, starting on page 436: "One form of compromise between ghetto and the resistance movement was the option in Eastern areas for the Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. ... The first thing the partisan learned, if he lived long enough, was that in defense of the Soviet Union no human cost was too high." [Who are these Jews loyal to?] Page 360 "Early in 1941 the Bund's Central Committee in the Warsaw ghetto sent a report to its New York organization, describing its functions as it then perceived them... [Communists have a New York operation!] the Bund's Central Committee adopted a policy statement setting forth their political hopes and expectations: Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they always were. Together with the Polish working masses struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitler- ism and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and Socialist Poland." [Jews want a Socialist Poland and they got it after WW II] Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation that avowed once more the movement's dual loyalty to Palestine and socialism and which held out the hope of the inevitable realization of a socialist Palestine: The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has tem- porarily separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there is no power in the world that can separate us from the struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall with the success or failure of socialism." [For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse! Read this over and over many times to let it sink in!] Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative of the Left Labor Zionists, taking part in a clandestine meeting of the underground Polish Communist front, Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council] spoke of victory with the political certitude of her party: In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the van- guard, are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and fascist governments. The working masses, the in- vincible forces of progress and true democracy will prevail in this historic struggle. Maintaining the traditions of the movement became a conspiratorial activity, yet served to uphold morale. May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews were enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists visited as many members as they could locate, reminding them of May Day, distributing little red- ribbon boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold on and hold out." In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a fundraising campaign in the Warsaw ghetto on behalf of the Jewish National Fund... " [Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth movements included Dror, associated with Labor Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism brought it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.." The Jewish National Fund is still in America today! The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744 Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund- raising organization for Palestine.] Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly organized several strikes and demonstrations, as they had occasionally done before the war. But party sovereignty persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a report of March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave its version of the political disharmony in the ghettos: The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no concern for the fate of the land where they live. The Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine. They minimize the importance of the Allies for the future of their friends and our people. They tie their only hope to the USSR. The remaining former com- petitors [Aguda] passively await salvation The Bund historically held the Marxist view of society in class conflict, its class-conscious bias deny- ing the validity of national/ethnic group conscious- ness." On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:20:51 -0700, Milton Wong wrote: >Communism was invented by the Jew Karl Marx. Many other leading >communists were/are Jews, for example Trotsky. > >The communists would never have succeeded in seizing power anywhere in >the world without help from the Jewish Bolsheviks. > >Many if not most spies for the Soviet Union and its allies were/are >Jews. > >Even those Jews who call themselves "conservative" or "democratic" are >eager to support communism in foreign countries, especially China. I >noticed during the recent visit to the United States of the leader of >the illegal Chinese communist regime that he was photographed with his >good friends Henry Kissinger (Jew) and Madeline Albright (Jew). > >It is estimated that the Chinese communists have murdered 65 million >innocent people. I look forward to the day when China is liberated from >the communists. In my opinion, the communist party should then be made >illegal, communist/marxist/socialist literature (such as "Das Kapital" >by the Jew Karl Marx) should be burned, all communists should be >executed, all foreign (read: Jewish) collaborators who have helped the >communists should be executed, all private property that was confiscated >by the communists should be returned to its rightful owners or their >heirs (if they were not all murdered by the communists; otherwise such >property should be given as compensation to other victims of communism), >and all property of communists or the communist party should be given to >the victims of communism. > >Notice how much attention the U.S. (Jewish-controlled) media give to the >Nazis' alleged murder of 6 million Jews, and how little attention they >give to the victims of (Jewish-invented and Jewish-supported) communism. >The communists are estimated to have murdered 65 million people in >China, 20 million in the Soviet Union, 2 million in Cambodia, 2 million >in North Korea, 1.7 million in Africa, 1 million in Vietnam, 1 million >in Eastern Europe, and 150,000 in South America. > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:58 EDT 1998 Article: 8590 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!nntp.cadvision.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.krakau Subject: Non-Jew Victims of the Holohoax Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:06:24 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f6a79d.1888398@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <1998080823515900.TAA15094@ladder03.news.aol.com> <1998080900252100.UAA18736@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-30.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:114965 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8590 pl.regionalne.lodz:347 And don't forget KATYN, where 25000 Polish officers were murdered by the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!! On 9 Aug 1998 00:25:21 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote: >Hello, > >>
Subject: Re: Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust
>>From: frstmt22@aol.com (Frstmt22)
>>Date: Sat, Aug 8, 1998 19:51 EDT
>>Message-id: <1998080823515900.TAA15094@ladder03.news.aol.com>
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>>But you are not including the 7 to 9 million in the Ukraine put to death in
>>1930-32 by NON CHRISTIANS 
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> >KK> Exactly. He also forgets 12,000 Kashubs at Piasnica near Wejherowo, Poland. >They certainly did not go looking for trouble either. They all worked for their >money. > >Keith Kaszubik From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:59 EDT 1998 Article: 8597 of pl.regionalne.warszawa From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.nswpp,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.lodz Subject: Re: Jew Thieves Scream "Anti-Semitism!" Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 133 Message-ID: <35f32b1f.933894@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <6mn1dk$532@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca alt.politics.nationalism.white:109949 alt.politics.white-power:139375 alt.nswpp:15993 alt.revisionism:202581 soc.culture.australian:75748 soc.culture.polish:115062 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8597 pl.regionalne.lodz:353 On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote: >LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History > >DAILY MAIL >Monday June 15 1998 >By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN > > >Revealed: The men accused in >31.8 million State Benefit Racket > >THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters >over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was >highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank >Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at >slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud. > >At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has >since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest >ever alleged welfare frauds. > >They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, >who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their >sprawling homes in a North London suburb. > >Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of >what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about >allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing >benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed >by officers from a special undercover task force set up by >the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage >fraud worth £31.2 million. > >The investigators are said to be checking on any links with >massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members >of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used >fake identities to make bogus benefit claims. > >Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the >ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, >North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation >has caused consider-able anger. > >At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, >Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight >to clear his name. > >'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete >waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances >are in good order. There has been no fraud. > >'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. >This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent >community which we have here. We just want to be able to >get on with our lives in peace. > >'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a >police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. >This should not have been allowed to happen.' > >Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached >at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no >comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home >as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home >where his wife and children live. > >Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm >which acts as the registered office for the majority of >the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted >by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing >to examine their records. > >Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a >network of companies and properties associated >with the family. > >All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein >are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford >Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties >Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home. > >Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties >since January and Amvex Investments since 1992. > >The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a >major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling >of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby. > >Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are >already overstretched by the criminal activity related >to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the >southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat. > > >Both men, together with three women and another man to >whom they are related are currently on bail and have to >return to Stoke Newington police station at the >end of this month. > >The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids >on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first >of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team. > >Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' >convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a >'revival of common decencies'. > >The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised >housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which >the Government now plans to extend right across the country. > >The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting >loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious >identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of >benefit allowances in various parts of London and >other cities in Britain. > >Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime >bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week. > >The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while >at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much >tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in >Britain today.' > >He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 >billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite >repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers. > >-------------------------------------- > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:56:59 EDT 1998 Article: 8598 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.australian Subject: Nizkor's terrorist connection, B'nai B'rith, keeps lists too! Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:25:16 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 635 Message-ID: <35f22a7f.773997@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <34806469.89821359@news.flanet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.swiss:26502 pl.regionalne.lodz:354 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8598 soc.culture.polish:115064 soc.culture.australian:75749 On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote: >[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue] > > "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An >Insider's Expose" > >-or- > >"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American >Debate" > > by Gregory D. Slabodkin > > >During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in >the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were >ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry >was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail >by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the >percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice >that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed >resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination. > >Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel >Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle >open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East. > > >Secretly Circulated Lists > > > To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section >within its research department that monitors and keeps files on >politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish >liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel." AIPAC selects >information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the >"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed >by their statements, often totally out of context. > >Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled >criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti- >American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli >government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO." Still >worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to >include any such criticism of Israel or its actions. > > To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics >have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret >activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling >book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront >Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact >on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as >academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within >AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only >surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic >fact that no longer should be ignored. > > AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L. >(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly >_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly >titled column, "The Monitor." Besides monitoring, analyzing, and >responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United >States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies." In his final year >AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations. > > Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in >Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the >American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to >create a "truth squad." Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab >propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be >a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship. > > "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the >organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of >Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains. >"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students, >sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were >used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they >might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists, >politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and >writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other >professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of >anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The >intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish >community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind >would weaken the Jewish state." > > When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December >1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the >department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained >ever since. > > > Monitoring Israel's "Enemies" > > >Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not >follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with >polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more >concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying >organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically >during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of >intelligence gathering. > >Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, >dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira. >"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny >group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from >the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s. > >Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the >subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question >Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day >War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy >in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace >Now movement in Israel. > >However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. >the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead >AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by >discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were >motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti- >Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews." > >Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, >charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel." Only one >prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander >Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, >who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt." He was ignored, >however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set >the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as >who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules." > >As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political >Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish >leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most >loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli >policies, among Jews as well as gentiles." > >In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's >Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing >important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with >them in the political arena." AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists" >to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on >"anti-Israel" forces. > > >AIPAC's "War for Washington" > > >Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy, >who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded >AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for >Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of >"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was >particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning >to organize. > >In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee >to monitor Israel's "enemies." Goott was recruited from the >Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties. >In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC >members to send useful information to her in Washington. > >In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, >coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its >purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations >and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient >analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members." Yet, >despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective >descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than >a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics >of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory >of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be >monitored and discredited whenever possible. > >At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit > >Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own >document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and >Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's >employment by both organizations during the period both publications >were in preparation. > >"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals >listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are >'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book, >_Israel and the American National Interest_. "Pro-Israeli groups have >succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with >terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent >of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label >'pro-PLO.'" > >The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. >Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony >Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its >"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in >Boston, as does Lewis. > >Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In > >its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his >articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of >Israel. > >"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of >Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should >welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it. > >In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the >largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States, >unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both >national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such >activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty >and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually >inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific >students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who >'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt >anti-Semitism.'" > >When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit >Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions >annually. > >However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first >edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of >"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly. > > > Going Underground > > >AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided > >with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb. >Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office >of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the >Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely >associated with the pro-Israel lobby. > >He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis, >whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating >Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people. > >Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section, >innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house" >for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide >a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else." He has >provided negative information both to rival politicians and to >journalists about prominent individuals whom > > >AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel." > > >In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a >racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional >district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring >of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph >Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of >being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests." The brochure, featuring a >photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, >asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these >special interests. Do we?" > >What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that >Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic >sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and >included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA). >Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen, >lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support, >went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress. > >Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information > >on Alexander Cockburn." That followed a heated exchange between >Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the > >editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson >attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda." > >"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago >Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been >funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank >known as the PLO's bank." > >Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly >alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The >Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from >the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the >Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them, >editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to >"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure." > >Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story > >as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_. >Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in >1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was >"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against >Israel." In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed >individual contributors within the United States until it closed down >in 1983 due to a lack of funds. > >Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David >Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What >Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.' >Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of >views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that >the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports >to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does >not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist. >His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and >the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested >parties, is poor journalism." > >Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated >pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In >a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among >all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly >innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs >should enjoy freedom of speech." > > _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column >opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in >cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are >totally incorruptible." > >In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of >Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to >Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's >reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage >a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted. > >Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to >which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge >that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money. >Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money" >and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar >innuendo regarding Jewish financing. > >In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze >the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith >Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part, >Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid >being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.' She often achieves her goals by >presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case." > >In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David >Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991 >issue: > >"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the >politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of >Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would >put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that >she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering >quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue." > >There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's >strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior >AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of >their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to >"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance, >monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990 >internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues >director, Lewis boasted: > >"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working >behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that >impact is not always traceable to us." > >As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has >created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing >organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them. >This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates." AIPAC >rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has >installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office. >"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report >on Middle East Affairs_. > >Secret _Activities_ > >Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production >and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which >disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of >Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible >product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to >hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the >controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983 >publication of _The Campaign to > > >Discredit Israel_. > > > _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged >to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision >that AIPAC not be attributed as its source." _Activities_ is >distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers, >the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and >Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists >and academics. > >It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other >Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not >permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention >the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting >breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the >American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that >organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having >received an AIPAC study entitled > > >_Activities_. > > >Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to >Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will >probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is >nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it >is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just >accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of >these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of >_Activities_." > >Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National >Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish >Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for >Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish >Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs (JINSA). > >According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major > >Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures >that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces >both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are >focusing. > >Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC, >_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to >good advantage." > >One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was > >in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused >Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the >new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him >with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis >Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action >committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations >attributed to Zogby. > >When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name > >appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the >mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording. >_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990, >column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish >Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's >knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's >fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_, >from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken. > >Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter > >writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis >for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an >"anti-Semite." Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's >statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York. > >"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. > >"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the >information should not be attributed to AIPAC." > >Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued >that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy." >Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with >neo-McCarthyism: > >"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a >'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled, >political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I >were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and >AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but >vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can >create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur." > >Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous >fund-raisers." > > > Disingenuous Disclaiming > > >AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken >against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact, >it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous >disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies >neither endorsement nor criticism of any group." By distributing >derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in >effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your >enemies -- now go out and do something about it!" > >AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison >department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When >AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel" >personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments, >question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations >are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are >asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC >also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests >other strategies suited to the particular venue. > >Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in >1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional >director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference >on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College, >arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of >'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a >meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to >develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on >the speakers. > >Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at >Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled >on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips >from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up >at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given, >characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All >this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk >somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who >will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I >allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized >in unsigned pamphlets." > >Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally >hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that >AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel." Among politicians upon whom such >files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff >John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense >Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter >and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate >Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House >Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John >Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe >Rahall, James Traficant and many others. > > The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of >District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's >surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's >professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was >caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60 >Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed >generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital >affairs. > >AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" >journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC >maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan, >Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis, >Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among >others. > >Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for >"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment >industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen, >Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra >Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more. > > >"Have You No Shame?" > > > In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised >Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch >stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?" Only >after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as >intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out, >did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public >life. > >Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question >of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community >relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the >hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel >Fund (NIF). > >This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the >National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC) >condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish >organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with >"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the >importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual >tolerance and civility." However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe >groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism >within more mainstream Jewish organizations. > >AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American >Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the >climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American >Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its >blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel." > >Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and >racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle >East. > >And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute >toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. > >[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an >opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee >(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.] > >Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or >write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009 > > NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The >Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END > > > >http://www.natall.com >http://www.natvan.com > >To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts >(the printed version of our weekly radio program), >mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the word >subscribe as the subject of your message. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Sun Sep 6 11:57:19 EDT 1998 Article: 14899 of soc.culture.baltics From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Re: WARNING !!!Canadian Immigration Business Opportunity Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:43:53 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f82ef2.1913103@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35E9C984.439323C1@altavista.net> <35f03b3d.996858@news.nucleus.com> <6sk3ol$6rj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f70ff4.4766030@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6spijd$ojk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx03-port-31.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.baltics:14899 soc.culture.ukrainian:41222 soc.culture.polish:115065 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:29:34 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:52:04 -0700, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional >> >> >partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications. >> >> >Please reply in writing to: This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!! Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply to emigrate to canada. Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!! By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in Canada?? From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 01:33:07 EDT 1998 Article: 115283 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.usa Subject: Do 7 JEWS Own/Control Russia? Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:07:56 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <35f6662d.2856323@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx08-port-6.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91401 soc.culture.polish:115283 soc.culture.swiss:26543 soc.culture.usa:253765 People all over Russia are now aware that the 7 JEW super tycoons, headed by Boris Berezovsky, own or control much of the economy of Russia. IMF reports that much of the $200 billion provided by the US taxpayers, is actually in the pockets of these 7 JEWS!!! Mind you, even these filthy rich JEWs did not leave the dollars in Russia. reports say that they moved planeloads of dollars to havens in bank accounts in the usual tax hiding shelters of Switzerland, the Caymans, Bahamas,Cyprus, and Monaco. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 01:34:47 EDT 1998 Article: 168596 of soc.culture.malaysia Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino,soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.laos,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.india,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.culture.thailand Subject: BEWARE!!! Canadian Immigration Business Opportunity Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 22:58:35 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <35f564ff.2554258@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35F40DBA.E910BA3C@altavista.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx08-port-6.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.filipino:120815 soc.culture.singapore:404728 soc.culture.laos:17484 soc.culture.malaysia:168596 soc.culture.india:11572 soc.culture.indian:260061 soc.culture.vietnamese:212295 Any legitimate candidate worthy of entering Canada legally as an immigrant, does not need to deal with con artists, or so-called consultants. Only criminals, and those not suitable to enter Canada legally seem to be dealing with undesirable elements, and they usually get swindled as well. Information is available FREE OF CHARGE from your local Canadian Embassy or Consulate, so why be swindled?? By the way, where does the alleged ATTORNEY at law practice, since such a term is NOT used in Canada?? On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:45:46 -0700, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law" wrote: >Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional >partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications. From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 01:36:37 EDT 1998 Article: 14936 of soc.culture.baltics Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics Subject: WARNING!!! Canadian Immigration Business Opportunity Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 22:50:58 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <35f46334.2094826@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35F40DD3.AEA1256@altavista.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx08-port-6.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.baltics:14936 This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!! Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply to emigrate to canada. Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!! By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in Canada?? From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:44 EDT 1998 Article: 115385 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:50:28 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f735e8.1227399@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:405 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8758 pl.regionalne.krakow:5368 soc.culture.polish:115385 soc.culture.russian:91465 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:44 EDT 1998 Article: 115386 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:07 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f936af.1426685@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:406 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8759 pl.regionalne.krakow:5369 soc.culture.polish:115386 soc.culture.russian:91466 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:45 EDT 1998 Article: 115389 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:26:17 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f53e86.3326982@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-21.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:407 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8761 soc.culture.polish:115389 soc.culture.europe:126013 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:45 EDT 1998 Article: 115390 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:28:07 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 114 Message-ID: <35f53ed0.3401266@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-21.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:408 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8762 soc.culture.polish:115390 soc.culture.europe:126014 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:47 EDT 1998 Article: 115391 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:56:12 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fb375c.1600234@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115391 soc.culture.russian:91467 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8763 pl.regionalne.krakow:5370 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:48 EDT 1998 Article: 115392 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:10:02 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36033a8a.2413707@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115392 pl.regionalne.lodz:409 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8764 pl.regionalne.krakow:5371 soc.culture.europe:126015 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:49 EDT 1998 Article: 115393 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!nntp.giganews.com!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:19:58 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f93d0b.2948007@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:410 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8766 soc.culture.polish:115393 soc.culture.europe:126016 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:50 EDT 1998 Article: 115394 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:47 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fa36db.1470879@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.warszawa:8768 pl.regionalne.krakow:5374 soc.culture.polish:115394 soc.culture.russian:91470 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:50 EDT 1998 Article: 115395 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR/Bill Grosvenor Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:17:55 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f73c58.2768731@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:413 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8770 soc.culture.polish:115395 soc.culture.europe:126019 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:51 EDT 1998 Article: 115396 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:19:02 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f83cc7.2880195@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:414 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8771 soc.culture.polish:115396 soc.culture.europe:126020 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:53 EDT 1998 Article: 115397 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:05:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fd39a7.2187367@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115397 soc.culture.russian:91471 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8772 pl.regionalne.krakow:5376 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:53 EDT 1998 Article: 115398 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:58:54 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fc3804.1768290@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115398 soc.culture.russian:91472 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8773 pl.regionalne.krakow:5377 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:54 EDT 1998 Article: 115411 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:20:36 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 114 Message-ID: <35f6675f.193270@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:415 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8776 soc.culture.polish:115411 soc.culture.europe:126029 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:56 EDT 1998 Article: 115413 of soc.culture.polish From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Did Ukraine Allow JEW MAFIA to Control Media?? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:31:49 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 143 Message-ID: <35f76a02.867817@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <342b1784.2373606@news.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.ukrainian:41320 soc.culture.russian:91477 soc.culture.polish:115413 soc.culture.swiss:26550 On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:26:13 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote: > >From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997 >Return-path: >Envelope-to: odessa88@direct.ca >Delivery-date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from ixmail1.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.61] > by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) > id 0xDZwl-0003fO-00; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com (nswpp@chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com [205.186.171.51]) by ixmail1.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id LAA19633; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970923145856.327fd524@popd.ix.netcom.com> >X-Sender: nswpp@popd.ix.netcom.com >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: nswpp@ix.netcom.com >From: NSWPP-CSU >Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media >X-UIDL: eb968194ffdeb4c591109b1c552776ed >X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 >Content-Length: 5445 > >====================================================== > THE CAMPAIGN FOR RADICAL TRUTH IN HISTORY > Visit our News Bureau, Archives and Bookstore at > http://www.hoffman-info.com >===================================================== > >--------Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television---------- > >According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture by >Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S. ambassador >to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich, a Ukrainian >millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and has ties to the >Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media empire--Central European Media >Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union. > >The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations in >seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is controlled by >its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner in Kiev. > >Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose company, >Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish mafia. > >The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft from >the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a >construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said >he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being Jewish. > >"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago. At >the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its representatives >were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a close adviser and >assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine, who praised the Ukraine >group. And when questions arose about the legality of the broadcast >license received by the joint venture, the same presidential adviser >obtained a letter declaring that the license had been awarded properly. > >"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British government to >bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An intelligence summary >prepared by a Western government, and corroborated by senior U.S. >diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's companies, had been created >as an arm of Nordex, a claim that Rabinovich disputed. > >"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev, Rabinovich >said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had broken off the >relationship two years ago because of bad publicity about Loutchansky. He >said his companies, which are engaged in many businesses, had only >legitimate interests... > >"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central >European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would have >annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run up steady >losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost $30 million >in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and $20.5 >million in 1994. > >"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago, Fertig >said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners in >Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close adviser to Kuchma. >Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of >Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment. > >"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the company >executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's office that >showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, according to >a person close to the company. > >"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising party >in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to the >Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an American >businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big cigarette >manufacturer. > >"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership agreement >with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50 percent >economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting about five >hours a day on Ukrainian television. > >"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time on >Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including prime >time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued despite a >moratorium imposed by Parliament. > >"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a stock >offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said the >Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach. > >"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in >September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he was >'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,' according to >a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote). > >Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty >thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the Pres. of >Ukraine and other Judases. > > > > > > "This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of >strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey, IMPERIUM > > >for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org > > __ > /\_\ > / / /_ > / /_/\ \ > _\ \/ \ \ > /\ \ /\ \_\ > \ \/ \ \/_/ > \ /\ \_\ > \/_/ / / > / / / > \/_/ > > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:54:57 EDT 1998 Article: 115414 of soc.culture.polish Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news.idt.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german Subject: Re: JEW NAZIS! (Actually Jews Helped Nazis!!) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:32:00 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 270 Message-ID: <35f86a09.875136@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35a354e6.8291038@news.eagles.bbs.net.au> <35bc3720.2309546@news.nucleus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca aus.general:34034 soc.culture.palestine:51372 soc.culture.malaysia:169179 soc.culture.lebanon:58199 soc.culture.swiss:26551 soc.culture.polish:115414 soc.culture.german:85932 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote: >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold >Wood) wrote: >>JEWISH NAZIS! >>How dare those cynical pernicious professional >>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere >>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave >>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded >>Nazi Germans! How dare those anti-social paranoid >>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the >>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long >>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only >>their relatives years ago received at the hands of >>but one group of the world's still common stream >>of 'monsters', behave that way here! I.e. import >>that despicable behaviour to their host country. >>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review >>obviously has not been influenced by >>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and >>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but >>by the likes of Adolf Hitler! The neo-nazi style >>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as >>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews, >>need to have a class action taken out against them >>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'. >>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish >>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to >>flight and ultimately closed down, for the >>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our >>enemies various must soon become a priority for >>Australia's intending survivor class. >>Harold. >Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing >the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!! >article follows >On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote; >>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote: >>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes: >>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you. >>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their >>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!! >Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some >Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The >activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly >weren't illegal. >>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented >>reports to prove this!!! >but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. >If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and >other references below, cited. >>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active >>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote: >>> If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by >>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What >>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those >>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being >>>an open liar? >>> irgun43 >>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan" wrote: >>>> >Yesss! >>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS) >>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel >>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as >>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.” >>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists. >>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998 >>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives: >>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0 >>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote: >>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle >>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html >>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man >>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes >>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to >>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because >>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography-- >>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their >>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA. >>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's >>>> book The War Against The Jews. >>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by >>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed]. >>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to >>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil >>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War, >>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or >>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77) >>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna, >>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them >>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations. >>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the >>>> deportations."] > ____________________________ >>>> Or how about this? >>>> Hitler's Jewish Army >>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing >>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that >>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of >>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute. >>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge and approval. >>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish >>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field >>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant >>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops." >>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ] >>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were >>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. >>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of >>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and >>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. >>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe >>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated >>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s. >>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's >>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi >>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an >>>> Aryan.'' >>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by >>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was >>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. >>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to >>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German >>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, >>>> whose father was a Jew. >>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto >>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). >>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all >>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against >>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? >>>> Sources: >>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles >>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996. >>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler," >>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996. >>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators. >>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html >>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from: >>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html >>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997 > >>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces >>>> by Reuters >>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of >>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in >>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said >>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.] >>>> See also: >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html >>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Dec. 26, 1996 >>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who >>>> served in Nazi army >>>> by William D. Montalbano >>>> Los Angeles Times >>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of >>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land >>>> of Holocaust history. >>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of >>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War >>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. >>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time >>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the >>>> whole story.] >>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html >>Quite. Glad we can agree on something. >>**************************************************************************************** >>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute >>a defenceless minority of Australians - who are innocent of any >>wrong-doing - on purely political grounds; by publishing to the >>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine. >>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the >>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents >>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian >>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any >>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet. >>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political >>transparency": lets see you really put your publishing skills >>where your mouth is... >>cheers, PJ >Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and >controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia. >Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before >the year 2000!!! From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:56:18 EDT 1998 Article: 41320 of soc.culture.ukrainian From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Did Ukraine Allow JEW MAFIA to Control Media?? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:31:49 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 143 Message-ID: <35f76a02.867817@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <342b1784.2373606@news.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.ukrainian:41320 soc.culture.russian:91477 soc.culture.polish:115413 soc.culture.swiss:26550 On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:26:13 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote: > >From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997 >Return-path: >Envelope-to: odessa88@direct.ca >Delivery-date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from ixmail1.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.61] > by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) > id 0xDZwl-0003fO-00; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com (nswpp@chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com [205.186.171.51]) by ixmail1.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id LAA19633; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970923145856.327fd524@popd.ix.netcom.com> >X-Sender: nswpp@popd.ix.netcom.com >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: nswpp@ix.netcom.com >From: NSWPP-CSU >Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media >X-UIDL: eb968194ffdeb4c591109b1c552776ed >X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 >Content-Length: 5445 > >====================================================== > THE CAMPAIGN FOR RADICAL TRUTH IN HISTORY > Visit our News Bureau, Archives and Bookstore at > http://www.hoffman-info.com >===================================================== > >--------Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television---------- > >According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture by >Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S. ambassador >to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich, a Ukrainian >millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and has ties to the >Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media empire--Central European Media >Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union. > >The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations in >seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is controlled by >its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner in Kiev. > >Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose company, >Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish mafia. > >The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft from >the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a >construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said >he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being Jewish. > >"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago. At >the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its representatives >were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a close adviser and >assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine, who praised the Ukraine >group. And when questions arose about the legality of the broadcast >license received by the joint venture, the same presidential adviser >obtained a letter declaring that the license had been awarded properly. > >"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British government to >bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An intelligence summary >prepared by a Western government, and corroborated by senior U.S. >diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's companies, had been created >as an arm of Nordex, a claim that Rabinovich disputed. > >"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev, Rabinovich >said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had broken off the >relationship two years ago because of bad publicity about Loutchansky. He >said his companies, which are engaged in many businesses, had only >legitimate interests... > >"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central >European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would have >annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run up steady >losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost $30 million >in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and $20.5 >million in 1994. > >"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago, Fertig >said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners in >Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close adviser to Kuchma. >Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of >Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment. > >"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the company >executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's office that >showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, according to >a person close to the company. > >"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising party >in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to the >Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an American >businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big cigarette >manufacturer. > >"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership agreement >with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50 percent >economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting about five >hours a day on Ukrainian television. > >"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time on >Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including prime >time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued despite a >moratorium imposed by Parliament. > >"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a stock >offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said the >Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach. > >"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in >September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he was >'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,' according to >a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote). > >Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty >thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the Pres. of >Ukraine and other Judases. > > > > > > "This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of >strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey, IMPERIUM > > >for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org > > __ > /\_\ > / / /_ > / /_/\ \ > _\ \/ \ \ > /\ \ /\ \_\ > \ \/ \ \/_/ > \ /\ \_\ > \/_/ / / > / / / > \/_/ > > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:56:46 EDT 1998 Article: 169179 of soc.culture.malaysia Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news.idt.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german Subject: Re: JEW NAZIS! (Actually Jews Helped Nazis!!) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:32:00 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 270 Message-ID: <35f86a09.875136@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35a354e6.8291038@news.eagles.bbs.net.au> <35bc3720.2309546@news.nucleus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca aus.general:34034 soc.culture.palestine:51372 soc.culture.malaysia:169179 soc.culture.lebanon:58199 soc.culture.swiss:26551 soc.culture.polish:115414 soc.culture.german:85932 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote: >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold >Wood) wrote: >>JEWISH NAZIS! >>How dare those cynical pernicious professional >>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere >>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave >>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded >>Nazi Germans! How dare those anti-social paranoid >>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the >>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long >>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only >>their relatives years ago received at the hands of >>but one group of the world's still common stream >>of 'monsters', behave that way here! I.e. import >>that despicable behaviour to their host country. >>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review >>obviously has not been influenced by >>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and >>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but >>by the likes of Adolf Hitler! The neo-nazi style >>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as >>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews, >>need to have a class action taken out against them >>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'. >>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish >>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to >>flight and ultimately closed down, for the >>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our >>enemies various must soon become a priority for >>Australia's intending survivor class. >>Harold. >Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing >the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!! >article follows >On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote; >>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote: >>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes: >>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you. >>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their >>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!! >Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some >Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The >activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly >weren't illegal. >>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented >>reports to prove this!!! >but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. >If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and >other references below, cited. >>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active >>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote: >>> If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by >>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What >>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those >>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being >>>an open liar? >>> irgun43 >>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan" wrote: >>>> >Yesss! >>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS) >>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel >>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as >>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.” >>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists. >>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998 >>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives: >>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0 >>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote: >>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle >>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html >>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man >>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes >>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to >>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because >>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography-- >>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their >>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA. >>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's >>>> book The War Against The Jews. >>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by >>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed]. >>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to >>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil >>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War, >>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or >>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77) >>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna, >>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them >>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations. >>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the >>>> deportations."] > ____________________________ >>>> Or how about this? >>>> Hitler's Jewish Army >>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing >>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that >>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of >>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute. >>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge and approval. >>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish >>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field >>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant >>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops." >>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ] >>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were >>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. >>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of >>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and >>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. >>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe >>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated >>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s. >>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's >>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi >>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an >>>> Aryan.'' >>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by >>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was >>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. >>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to >>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German >>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, >>>> whose father was a Jew. >>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto >>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). >>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all >>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against >>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? >>>> Sources: >>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles >>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996. >>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler," >>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996. >>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators. >>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html >>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from: >>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html >>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997 > >>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces >>>> by Reuters >>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of >>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in >>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said >>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.] >>>> See also: >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html >>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Dec. 26, 1996 >>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who >>>> served in Nazi army >>>> by William D. Montalbano >>>> Los Angeles Times >>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of >>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land >>>> of Holocaust history. >>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of >>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War >>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. >>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time >>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the >>>> whole story.] >>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html >>Quite. Glad we can agree on something. >>**************************************************************************************** >>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute >>a defenceless minority of Australians - who are innocent of any >>wrong-doing - on purely political grounds; by publishing to the >>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine. >>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the >>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents >>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian >>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any >>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet. >>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political >>transparency": lets see you really put your publishing skills >>where your mouth is... >>cheers, PJ >Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and >controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia. >Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before >the year 2000!!! From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:12 EDT 1998 Article: 5369 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:07 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f936af.1426685@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:406 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8759 pl.regionalne.krakow:5369 soc.culture.polish:115386 soc.culture.russian:91466 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:13 EDT 1998 Article: 5370 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:56:12 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fb375c.1600234@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115391 soc.culture.russian:91467 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8763 pl.regionalne.krakow:5370 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:14 EDT 1998 Article: 5371 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:10:02 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36033a8a.2413707@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115392 pl.regionalne.lodz:409 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8764 pl.regionalne.krakow:5371 soc.culture.europe:126015 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:15 EDT 1998 Article: 5372 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:08:33 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36013a56.2361520@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91469 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8765 pl.regionalne.krakow:5372 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:18 EDT 1998 Article: 5373 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed.nntp.acc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:15:55 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f53c18.2705104@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:411 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8767 pl.regionalne.krakow:5373 soc.culture.europe:126017 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:18 EDT 1998 Article: 5374 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:47 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fa36db.1470879@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.warszawa:8768 pl.regionalne.krakow:5374 soc.culture.polish:115394 soc.culture.russian:91470 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:19 EDT 1998 Article: 5375 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:10:38 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36043ad4.2488074@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:412 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8769 pl.regionalne.krakow:5375 soc.culture.europe:126018 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:20 EDT 1998 Article: 5376 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:05:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fd39a7.2187367@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115397 soc.culture.russian:91471 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8772 pl.regionalne.krakow:5376 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:57:20 EDT 1998 Article: 5377 of pl.regionalne.krakow Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:58:54 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fc3804.1768290@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115398 soc.culture.russian:91472 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8773 pl.regionalne.krakow:5377 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:00 EDT 1998 Article: 8759 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:07 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f936af.1426685@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:406 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8759 pl.regionalne.krakow:5369 soc.culture.polish:115386 soc.culture.russian:91466 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:01 EDT 1998 Article: 8761 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:26:17 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f53e86.3326982@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-21.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:407 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8761 soc.culture.polish:115389 soc.culture.europe:126013 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:02 EDT 1998 Article: 8762 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:28:07 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 114 Message-ID: <35f53ed0.3401266@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-21.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:408 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8762 soc.culture.polish:115390 soc.culture.europe:126014 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:02 EDT 1998 Article: 8763 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:56:12 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fb375c.1600234@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115391 soc.culture.russian:91467 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8763 pl.regionalne.krakow:5370 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:03 EDT 1998 Article: 8764 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:10:02 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36033a8a.2413707@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115392 pl.regionalne.lodz:409 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8764 pl.regionalne.krakow:5371 soc.culture.europe:126015 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:03 EDT 1998 Article: 8765 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:08:33 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36013a56.2361520@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.russian:91469 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8765 pl.regionalne.krakow:5372 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:04 EDT 1998 Article: 8766 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!nntp.giganews.com!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:19:58 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f93d0b.2948007@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:410 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8766 soc.culture.polish:115393 soc.culture.europe:126016 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:04 EDT 1998 Article: 8767 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed.nntp.acc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:15:55 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35f53c18.2705104@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:411 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8767 pl.regionalne.krakow:5373 soc.culture.europe:126017 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:04 EDT 1998 Article: 8768 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:53:47 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fa36db.1470879@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.warszawa:8768 pl.regionalne.krakow:5374 soc.culture.polish:115394 soc.culture.russian:91470 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:05 EDT 1998 Article: 8769 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow,soc.culture.europe Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:10:38 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <36043ad4.2488074@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:412 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8769 pl.regionalne.krakow:5375 soc.culture.europe:126018 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:05 EDT 1998 Article: 8770 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR/Bill Grosvenor Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:17:55 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f73c58.2768731@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:413 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8770 soc.culture.polish:115395 soc.culture.europe:126019 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:05 EDT 1998 Article: 8771 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:19:02 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <35f83cc7.2880195@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtntnt4-port-230.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:414 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8771 soc.culture.polish:115396 soc.culture.europe:126020 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:05 EDT 1998 Article: 8772 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:05:34 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fd39a7.2187367@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115397 soc.culture.russian:91471 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8772 pl.regionalne.krakow:5376 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:05 EDT 1998 Article: 8773 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa,pl.regionalne.krakow Subject: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:58:54 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 119 Message-ID: <35fc3804.1768290@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx02-port-12.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.polish:115398 soc.culture.russian:91472 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8773 pl.regionalne.krakow:5377 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: "c:\Program Files\Netscape\files\porn21.xp" Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:58:06 EDT 1998 Article: 8776 of pl.regionalne.warszawa Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!newsfeed.direct.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.europe Subject: Re: KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTED BY JEW CANTOR Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:20:36 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 114 Message-ID: <35f6675f.193270@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35ede6ac.1030403@news.nucleus.com> <6smama$if9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35f3032f.1496936@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> <6sphik$n5m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca pl.regionalne.lodz:415 pl.regionalne.warszawa:8776 soc.culture.polish:115411 soc.culture.europe:126029 On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:12:04 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:46:50 -0600, Tuisto wrote: >sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote: Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= said. Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they did say there was a plea bargain. Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through the media. ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related material. With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org >I think the only crime here is the possession of child porn...unless you >advocate such activities. If you think its a crime to be a Nazi, but not >a child abuser then you have some major problems. > >-Tuisto sven88 From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 13:59:45 EDT 1998 Article: 85932 of soc.culture.german Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news.idt.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german Subject: Re: JEW NAZIS! (Actually Jews Helped Nazis!!) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:32:00 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 270 Message-ID: <35f86a09.875136@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35a354e6.8291038@news.eagles.bbs.net.au> <35bc3720.2309546@news.nucleus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca aus.general:34034 soc.culture.palestine:51372 soc.culture.malaysia:169179 soc.culture.lebanon:58199 soc.culture.swiss:26551 soc.culture.polish:115414 soc.culture.german:85932 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote: >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold >Wood) wrote: >>JEWISH NAZIS! >>How dare those cynical pernicious professional >>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere >>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave >>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded >>Nazi Germans! How dare those anti-social paranoid >>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the >>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long >>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only >>their relatives years ago received at the hands of >>but one group of the world's still common stream >>of 'monsters', behave that way here! I.e. import >>that despicable behaviour to their host country. >>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review >>obviously has not been influenced by >>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and >>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but >>by the likes of Adolf Hitler! The neo-nazi style >>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as >>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews, >>need to have a class action taken out against them >>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'. >>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish >>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to >>flight and ultimately closed down, for the >>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our >>enemies various must soon become a priority for >>Australia's intending survivor class. >>Harold. >Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing >the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!! >article follows >On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote; >>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote: >>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes: >>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you. >>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their >>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!! >Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some >Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The >activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly >weren't illegal. >>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented >>reports to prove this!!! >but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. >If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and >other references below, cited. >>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active >>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote: >>> If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by >>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What >>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those >>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being >>>an open liar? >>> irgun43 >>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan" wrote: >>>> >Yesss! >>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS) >>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel >>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as >>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.” >>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists. >>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998 >>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives: >>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0 >>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote: >>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle >>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html >>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man >>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes >>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to >>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because >>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography-- >>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their >>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA. >>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's >>>> book The War Against The Jews. >>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by >>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed]. >>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to >>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil >>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War, >>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or >>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77) >>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna, >>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them >>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations. >>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the >>>> deportations."] > ____________________________ >>>> Or how about this? >>>> Hitler's Jewish Army >>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing >>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that >>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of >>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute. >>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge and approval. >>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish >>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field >>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant >>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops." >>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ] >>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were >>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. >>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of >>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and >>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. >>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe >>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated >>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s. >>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's >>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi >>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an >>>> Aryan.'' >>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by >>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was >>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. >>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to >>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German >>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, >>>> whose father was a Jew. >>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto >>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). >>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all >>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against >>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? >>>> Sources: >>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles >>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996. >>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler," >>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996. >>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators. >>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html >>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from: >>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html >>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997 > >>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces >>>> by Reuters >>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of >>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in >>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said >>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.] >>>> See also: >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html >>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Dec. 26, 1996 >>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who >>>> served in Nazi army >>>> by William D. Montalbano >>>> Los Angeles Times >>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of >>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land >>>> of Holocaust history. >>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of >>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War >>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. >>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time >>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the >>>> whole story.] >>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html >>Quite. Glad we can agree on something. >>**************************************************************************************** >>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute >>a defenceless minority of Australians - who are innocent of any >>wrong-doing - on purely political grounds; by publishing to the >>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine. >>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the >>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents >>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian >>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any >>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet. >>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political >>transparency": lets see you really put your publishing skills >>where your mouth is... >>cheers, PJ >Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and >controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia. >Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before >the year 2000!!! From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 14:00:34 EDT 1998 Article: 26550 of soc.culture.swiss From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Did Ukraine Allow JEW MAFIA to Control Media?? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:31:49 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 143 Message-ID: <35f76a02.867817@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <342b1784.2373606@news.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!fu-berlin.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.oanet.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news Xref: trends.ca soc.culture.ukrainian:41320 soc.culture.russian:91477 soc.culture.polish:115413 soc.culture.swiss:26550 On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:26:13 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote: > >From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997 >Return-path: >Envelope-to: odessa88@direct.ca >Delivery-date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from ixmail1.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.61] > by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) > id 0xDZwl-0003fO-00; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:44:31 -0700 >Received: from chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com (nswpp@chn-sc1-19.ix.netcom.com [205.186.171.51]) by ixmail1.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id LAA19633; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970923145856.327fd524@popd.ix.netcom.com> >X-Sender: nswpp@popd.ix.netcom.com >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: nswpp@ix.netcom.com >From: NSWPP-CSU >Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media >X-UIDL: eb968194ffdeb4c591109b1c552776ed >X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 >Content-Length: 5445 > >====================================================== > THE CAMPAIGN FOR RADICAL TRUTH IN HISTORY > Visit our News Bureau, Archives and Bookstore at > http://www.hoffman-info.com >===================================================== > >--------Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television---------- > >According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture by >Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S. ambassador >to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich, a Ukrainian >millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and has ties to the >Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media empire--Central European Media >Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union. > >The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations in >seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is controlled by >its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner in Kiev. > >Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose company, >Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish mafia. > >The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft from >the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a >construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said >he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being Jewish. > >"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago. At >the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its representatives >were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a close adviser and >assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine, who praised the Ukraine >group. And when questions arose about the legality of the broadcast >license received by the joint venture, the same presidential adviser >obtained a letter declaring that the license had been awarded properly. > >"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British government to >bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An intelligence summary >prepared by a Western government, and corroborated by senior U.S. >diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's companies, had been created >as an arm of Nordex, a claim that Rabinovich disputed. > >"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev, Rabinovich >said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had broken off the >relationship two years ago because of bad publicity about Loutchansky. He >said his companies, which are engaged in many businesses, had only >legitimate interests... > >"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central >European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would have >annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run up steady >losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost $30 million >in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and $20.5 >million in 1994. > >"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago, Fertig >said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners in >Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close adviser to Kuchma. >Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of >Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment. > >"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the company >executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's office that >showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, according to >a person close to the company. > >"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising party >in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to the >Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an American >businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big cigarette >manufacturer. > >"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership agreement >with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50 percent >economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting about five >hours a day on Ukrainian television. > >"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time on >Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including prime >time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued despite a >moratorium imposed by Parliament. > >"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a stock >offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said the >Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach. > >"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in >September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he was >'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,' according to >a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote). > >Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty >thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the Pres. of >Ukraine and other Judases. > > > > > > "This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of >strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey, IMPERIUM > > >for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org > > __ > /\_\ > / / /_ > / /_/\ \ > _\ \/ \ \ > /\ \ /\ \_\ > \ \/ \ \/_/ > \ /\ \_\ > \/_/ / / > / / / > \/_/ > > From bjarnasson@zhid.org Tue Sep 8 14:00:35 EDT 1998 Article: 26551 of soc.culture.swiss Path: trends.ca!hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!WCG!news.idt.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!news.agtac.net!news.telusplanet.net!news From: bjarnasson@zhid.org Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.malaysia,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german Subject: Re: JEW NAZIS! (Actually Jews Helped Nazis!!) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:32:00 GMT Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Lines: 270 Message-ID: <35f86a09.875136@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net> References: <35a354e6.8291038@news.eagles.bbs.net.au> <35bc3720.2309546@news.nucleus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edtnpx06-port-16.agt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: trends.ca aus.general:34034 soc.culture.palestine:51372 soc.culture.malaysia:169179 soc.culture.lebanon:58199 soc.culture.swiss:26551 soc.culture.polish:115414 soc.culture.german:85932 On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:14:38 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote: >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:26:43 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold >Wood) wrote: >>JEWISH NAZIS! >>How dare those cynical pernicious professional >>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere >>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave >>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded >>Nazi Germans! How dare those anti-social paranoid >>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the >>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long >>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only >>their relatives years ago received at the hands of >>but one group of the world's still common stream >>of 'monsters', behave that way here! I.e. import >>that despicable behaviour to their host country. >>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review >>obviously has not been influenced by >>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and >>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but >>by the likes of Adolf Hitler! The neo-nazi style >>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as >>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews, >>need to have a class action taken out against them >>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'. >>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish >>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to >>flight and ultimately closed down, for the >>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our >>enemies various must soon become a priority for >>Australia's intending survivor class. >>Harold. >Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing >the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!! >article follows >On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote; >>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote: >>>In article torquemada@inquisition.org writes: >>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you. >>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their >>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!! >Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some >Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The >activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly >weren't illegal. >>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented >>reports to prove this!!! >but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. >If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and >other references below, cited. >>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active >>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the >>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!! >>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money?? >>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote: >>> If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by >>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What >>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those >>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being >>>an open liar? >>> irgun43 >>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan" wrote: >>>> >Yesss! >>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS) >>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel >>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as >>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.” >>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists. >>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998 >>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives: >>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0 >>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote: >>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle >>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html >>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man >>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes >>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to >>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because >>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography-- >>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their >>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA. >>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's >>>> book The War Against The Jews. >>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by >>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed]. >>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to >>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil >>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War, >>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or >>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77) >>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna, >>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them >>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations. >>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the >>>> deportations."] > ____________________________ >>>> Or how about this? >>>> Hitler's Jewish Army >>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing >>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that >>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of >>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute. >>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis >>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's >>>> knowledge and approval. >>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish >>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field >>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant >>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops." >>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ] >>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were >>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. >>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of >>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and >>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. >>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe >>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated >>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s. >>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's >>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi >>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an >>>> Aryan.'' >>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by >>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was >>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. >>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to >>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German >>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, >>>> whose father was a Jew. >>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto >>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). >>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all >>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against >>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? >>>> Sources: >>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles >>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996. >>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler," >>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996. >>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators. >>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html >>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from: >>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html >>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997 > >>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces >>>> by Reuters >>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of >>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in >>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said >>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.] >>>> See also: >>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html >>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company >>>> Dec. 26, 1996 >>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who >>>> served in Nazi army