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From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 06:47:28 PST 1996
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Since you are not in the province of Quebec, one may assume that you are
another of the anglo trouble-makers, trying to criticise the sensible
Quebecois, who are really starting to dislike the JEWS.

In fact, they are probably cheering the demise of Bronfman, who has gone
to the great synagogue in the sky.



On 2 Dec 1996, Juanita Farnsworth wrote:
>  (acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca) writes:
One may assume that Durocher has finally started to think, and is now
questioning the role of JEWS in Quebec.

> > On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Jean-Yves Durocher wrote:
> >> Un homme qui se pose des questions, et il y a de quoi sur
> >> l'intelligence de certains, =E9crit:
> >> >acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> >> >> > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

> >> >> > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> >> >> > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a =
> > hoax
> >> >> > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy,=
> >  due
> >> >> > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people=
> >  who
> >> >> > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult ho=
> > ax
> >> >> > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said t=
> > o
> >> >> > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> >> >> > movement.
> > 
> >> >> > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> >> >> > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in th=
> > e
> >> >> > conspiracy to accept Zundel's claims.

Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

 > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

 > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
 > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
 > THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

He still did not get to enjoy his billions. God in His wisdom decided that
Bronfman did not deserve to enjoy all his billions, so Bronfman died from
cancer. Justice???

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> Juanita Farnsworth                      Triple T Cedar Resort
> al562					R. R. #4 Omemee K0L 2W0
> Omemee Ont Canada (and Ottawa too!)	(705) 799 - 2316



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 06:47:29 PST 1996
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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996 lhl@tiac.net wrote:
> Alan Ball wrote:
> > As to history books, they are a treasured component of what make us human
> > and more or less knowledgable. They are also infinite in their subjects and
> > points of view : this is why we will need historians till the end of time
> > and that they will debate till the end of time. I'll choose to follow, not
> > blindly, the sources summarizing previous efforts and current findings if I
> > am confident in their methodology and record of scientific recognition.
> > This criterium might not be totally errorproof, but I place it a million
> > times higher than any pamphlet coming from any political or religious
> > movement. Your technique of discussion and the reactions NOI's book is
> > getting in this thread from a large number of eminent scholars comfort me
> > in my apprehensions of your goals...

I am delighted by your response which contains not a single trace of
historical rebuttal to a single point that I have made. I do not know  why
you would think that I have the slightest bit of interest in your  opinion,
just as I don't know why anyone would be slightly interested in mine. A 
revered scholar of Jewish history, however, might be someone worth 
listening to.
Example: Dr. Jacob Rader Marcus, United States Jewry, 1776-1985 
(Detroit: Wayne State University Press, 1989), p. 586:> 

"All through the eighteenth century, into the early nineteenth,
Jews in the North were to own black servants; in the South, the few
plantations owned by Jews were tilled with slave labor. In 1820, over 75
percent of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah 
owned slaves, employed as domestic servants; almost 40 percent of all Jewish
householders in the United States owned one slave or more. There were no
protests against slavery as such by Jews in the South, where they were
always outnumbered at least 100 to 1....

But very few Jews anywhere in the United States protested against 
chattel slavery on moral grounds."

Even though I have presented quote after quote after quote (see above) 
>from  said scholars ad infinitum you have chosen to completely ignore their 
words and focus on me as if their words were actually mine.

I know that you don't like what is firmly on paper in the books and
articles of these eminent Jewish scholars but this is your burden, not mine.
Here is a clue: You can convince me, even change my opinion, if you  would
simply present evidence that contradicts that which I have presented on
this ng.  When you DO NOT, the only conclusion one has the option to  reach
is that you CAN NOT which renders you and your argument lame and
devoid of circumstance.  Your responses, thus far, have been securely 
affixed to this category.

Additionally, to examine our own Black history is a function we will
continue to engage in completely aloof from and untethered to any 
overseer or straw boss.  It is a human right and the duty of every free 
man or woman  to study and record their history.  Such examination will, 
in short order, reveal to the seeker the reason for White resistance to 
such endeavor.  



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:34:30 PST 1996
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Are you allowed to correspond publicly in English, under the revised
language laws of Quebec?

Or, are JEWS allowed to break the language laws of Quebec, and are you one
of these?



On 1 Dec 1996, Ken Quinn wrote:
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote in article

> > You still failed to answer the questions regarding, DO JEWS OWN or
> > CONTROL QUEBEC?

> If you take your medication as prescribed, and you take a peek at the
> makeup of our government and our civil service, you will see that the
> province is overwhelmingly controlled, or managed - if you will, by French
> speaking gentiles.


Since when is the JEW BRONFMAN a Catholic gentile?



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:34:31 PST 1996
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Subject: DADAH=DEATH - even for Canadian drug dealers!!!
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:18:09 -0700
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I see that another Canadian criminal is upset with the sensible justice
systems in Singapore and Malaysia.

In those countries, they know how to execute criminals, swiftly and at
moderate cost to the taxpayers. they do not care from what country you
come.If a dope dealer, you are dead,soon.



On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
>       William Grosvenor's ideas for the advancement of civilization:

What is really needed in Canada is the enlightened policy regarding DRUGS
imposed by Malaysia and Singapore.  In those civilised countries,
possession of drugs imposes automatically the DEATH PENALTY.
 
This policy makes sure that the subhumans involved with drugs get what
they deserve, namely a short rope trip at their own hanging.
 
The criticism of the proper police actions probably came from some drug
dealer, most of whom are disease spreading AIDS faggots anyway.
 
If Canada were as strict as civilised malaysia and Singapore, we would
just execute the drug dealers,and thereby save space in the prisons for
other Canadian criminals.
 
I would sooner support the MODERN DRUG LAWS OF MALAYSIA and SINGAPORE.
In these countries if you have drugs, it is an automatic death penalty.
It helps to keep the streets clear of garbage, drug users.
 
 **************************************************************************
 
> In William Grosvenor's beloved Singapore, where alcohol and nicotine are
> consumed legally and liberally, it is illegal to:
 
>   import chewing gum ($10,000 fine)
>   feed the birds ($1,000 fine)
>   not flush a public toilet
>   smoke (tobacco)
>   pick flowers
 
> If William Grosvenor truly takes _no_ drugs, legal or not (the body doesn't
> know legal from illegal), then he still has zero right to tell others how
> to live their lives. He should study the writings of James Madison, who
> wrote and warned about the "Tyranny of the Majority."



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:36:50 PST 1996
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See, the mentally-challenged moonlite can not even differentiate between
ve6yj and the old curmudgeon.

Mind you, what can one expect from a functionally illiterate refugee from
communist China?

At least in PRC, the government there knows how to take care iof problems,
such as useless students, faggots, and similar criminals.That is why the
PRC has camps for such criminals to be re-educated, and where they can
concentrate.



On 29 Nov 1996 moonlite@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote:
> : This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a 
> : LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly - but no brains whatsoever 
> : to screw and make babies ...
> 	This explains why you, Grosswhiner and the rest of you rightoids
> exist...if only your folks put on a condom, we'd be spared your venomous
> and bigotted rantings...
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:36:51 PST 1996
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:52:11 -0700
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Have huge 10 volume European Matchbox Cover Collection, finely mounted on
black pages in Schaubeck albums.

Will trade all for quality stamp collection of similar value.

The collection will be shipped from Canada,and takes a large apple carton
in volume.

Other trade offers may be considered, such as solid gold pocket
watch,double case preferred, or???




From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:36:52 PST 1996
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I do not know where you live, but in Canada many of us still believe in
freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and the widest dissemination
of the truth.

It could be that you belong to a vocal minority, involved in suppression
of discussion, opposed to freedom of speech, and supporters of the
holohoax?



On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Harry S. Margel Communications Inc. wrote:
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel's site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on  facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I've
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews'
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don't even know what he
is about.

> > > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.



Actually, the term HOLOCAUST originally referred to the Turkish slaughter
of the Armenians in the early 1900's. The termn was then used by jew pr
hacks as their term for the alleged people who disappeared in WWII.
Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

> > > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> > > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
> > > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
> > > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
> > > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
> > > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
> > > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> > > movement.

> > > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> > > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
> > > conspiracy to accept Zundel's claims.

Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

> > > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

> > > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
> > > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
> > > THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> I don't know about the "JEWS", but I understand that the Jews were in
> fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then
> resolved with the government.

You still did not respond to the above point made, namely why should the
more than 98% of non-JEWS in Quebec have to obey the French label laws,
while only the cursed JEWS are able somehow to avoid the laws of sovereign
Quebec? The Catholics and Christians of other sects MUST obey the laws,
while the JEWS break the laws with impunity.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:36:53 PST 1996
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It seems that many of the respondents to the sensible comments of Ed
Panker, just do not believe in the concept of RESPONSIBILITY!!!



On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Vera Casteel wrote:
> In article <57lo9j$j30_007@compusmart.ab.ca>, ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca 

And what part of that equation excuses the PARENTS of said "people" to take 
hold of their responsibility and also set something aside to put the kids 
through ... hmm?

Why not think about THAT before bedding some woman, doing the horizontal 
mambo, squeezing out kids, THEN fretting about how they are going to be 
clothed, fed, and SCHOOLED!

This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a 
LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly - but no brains whatsoever 
to screw and make babies ...

> And what about those parents who planned their children because they had 
> plenty of money for schooling, clothing, feeding, etc. and then end up 
> losing their jobs? Things happen in life which people can't help and 
> can't necessarily plan for.

If people are too stupid to put aside money for "a rainy day", then they
must accept their own responsibility for their offspring.

> What about those parents who are young and just starting their careers, 
> maybe not having enough money to put the kid through school yet or even 
> set aside money for that, but they move up in their careers later and are 
> making plenty of money to help their kids through school?

If they are old enough to now have students ready for a so-called
education beyond grade 12, then they are old enough to know better. They
should have put aside some of their tobacco,booze,and bingo money for the
education of their children.

> What about kids in foster homes who don't *have* parents? Should they be 
> working at McD's the rest of their life because their parents aren't even 
> *alive* anymore? Gee... the parents couldn't plan for that one.


If the student has any initiative, combined with a modicum of
intelligence, there are more than enough bursaries and scholarships for
those students deserving.



I maintain that all students should first EARN the FULL COSTS of their
education, before entering any advanced education institution.

If, instead of paying only the present 14-18% of the costs of their mainly
useless courses,they had to pay ALL 100%, then perhaps they would be
annoyed enough to ensure that there would be a job, should they graduate.

Also, perhaps the students would also accept the responsibility of
ensuring they got proper instructors, who actually had recent, relevant
experience in the real world, rather than just sinecured snivel
servants sitting on their posteriors because they are unemployable.

I support the government policies of refusing to allow student loans to be
extinguished by bankruptcy. If you can't pay it back, don't borrow in the
first place.





From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:36:54 PST 1996
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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..
    
Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.
    
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
solid gold doublecased man's pocket watch with chain, good Motherboard
with P166 or equivalent???



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Subject: Re: JEWS TRY AGAIN TO CLOSE DOWN ZUNDELSITE ON WWW
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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, raterman wrote:
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

I do not know where you live, but in Canada many of us still believe in
freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and the widest dissemination
of the truth.

It could be that you belong to a vocal minority, involved in suppression
of discussion, opposed to freedom of speech, and supporters of the
holohoax?

> > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Harry S. Margel Communications Inc. wrote:
> > > acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel's site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on  facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I've
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews'
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don't even know what he
is about.

> > > > > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Actually, the term HOLOCAUST originally referred to the Turkish slaughter
of the Armenians in the early 1900's. The termn was then used by jew pr
hacks as their term for the alleged people who disappeared in WWII.
Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.

Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

 > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
 > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
 > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
 > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
 > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
 > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
 > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
 > movement.

 > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
 > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
 > conspiracy to accept Zundel's claims.

Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

 > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

 > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
 > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
 > THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

Even Bronfman could not take it with him, when he died this weekend, so
why take it out of Quebec???


What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> > > I don't know about the "JEWS", but I understand that the Jews were in
> > > fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then
> > > resolved with the government.

You still did not respond to the above point made, namely why should the
more than 98% of non-JEWS in Quebec have to obey the French label laws,
while only the cursed JEWS are able somehow to avoid the laws of sovereign
Quebec? The Catholics and Christians of other sects MUST obey the laws,
while the JEWS break the laws with impunity.

> you are a nazi piece of shit



Coming frome une piece de merde, you should be ashamed .....



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:40:21 PST 1996
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What a load of pure garbage!!!

What is really needed in Canada is the enlightened policy regarding DRUGS
imposed by Malaysia and Singapore.  In those civilised countries,
possession of drugs imposes automatically the DEATH PENALTY.

This policy makes sure that the subhumans involved with drugs get what
they deserve, namely a short rope trip at their own hanging.



On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
> The following story about Dave Brandt was recently (11-30-96) posted in
> news:alt.hemp.politics Within 13 hours, three responses were posted, all
> from Canada.

> The world, and Americans in particular, need to be aware of the ignorance
> regarding Drug Prohibition that flourishes in Canada (especially since the
> USA may well annex the Canadian border states in 10 to 15 years, because of
> their "natural resources"). Do not be misled by the progressivity of HempBC.
> Unless the law has been changed in the last two years, possession of "High
> Times" magazine is illegal in Canada!

> The story about Dave Brandt is repeated below, along with the comments of
> three profoundly ignorant Canadians:

>       Mike Sugimoto
>       mailto:phloem@islandnet.com
>       http://www.islandnet.com/~phloem/contact.html
>       self described as: gat/md/t/s, dreamer, shaper, singer, maker
>       "to cure sometimes, to relieve often, to comfort always."

>       Don Wagner
>       mailto:donw@coastnet.com
>       #304 - 1803 Douglas Street
>       Victoria, B.C.  V8T 5C3
>       Canada

>       Mike Drummond
>       mailto:drummond@infoserve.net
>       #203 - 6811 Sellers Avenue
>       Burnaby, B.C.  V5J 4R2
>       Canada

> > COP WITH STICKY FINGERS NABS TWO REMOTE CONTROL PLANES IN DRUG RAID

> > Drug charges result in job loss, eviction and theft of personal property
> > by police in growing Surrey (B.C. Canada) metropolis.  Similar things may
> > happen to anyone caught growing and/or possessing marijunan in Canada.
> > With the crowded jail conditions at Surrey Pretrial Detention Center,
> > which violate the Geneva Convention, human rights violations are a daily
> > occurrence for criminals in Surrey, B.C.  But could it be the work of a
> > cop desparate for extra cash due to federal budget slashing?

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:phloem@islandnet.com) wrote:

I don't believe this. "Violations of the Geneva Convention"? Perhaps you'd
like to quote the appropriate section of the Convention charter and refer
that to us? Reality Check: The Geneva Convention ensures protection for
prisoners taken during *international conflict*, not in domestic law
enforcement operations. Those rights are secured by the Canadian
constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

As for the rights violations of the prisonners.. You feel more sorry for
the criminals, or the people they've committed crimes against?



I agree completely with the above comments.

The critcisim of the proper police actions probably came from some drug
dealer, most of whom are disease spreading AIDS faggots anyway.


> > Crimes the Surrey Royal Canadian Mounted Police did commit in raiding
> > Brandt's home:
> > 1.  Theft of two remote control planes
> > 2.  Perjury, in denying the planes were taken
> > 3.  Obstruction of justice (see 2 above)
> > 4.  Possible criminal conspiracy in covering up this theft.

> > Conclusion:

> > A police officer in the RCMP, during the course of his duty, did
> > knowingly allow the theft of two radio controlled planes.

> > WARNING!

> > Citizens in Surrey contemplating growing and/or using marijuana are
> > advised that they should keep their valuables (not the herb) under lock
> > and key.  Due to budget restraint, more and more police may stoop to
> > petty thievery to make ends meet.

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:phloem@islandnet.com) wrote:

"Citizens in Surrey contemplating growing and/or using marijuana are
advised that this is a criminal offense, and if you're found in possession
of the drug, you will be charged under the Canadian Criminal Code.
Regardless of whether it's locked up."


If Canada were as strict as civilised malaysia and Singapore, we would
just execute the drug dealers,and thereby save space in the prisons for
other Canadian criminals.

> > ----------------- from the Cannabis Canada mail list -----------------
> > SEVEN MONTHS FOR FIFTY PLANTS IN BC

> > Dave Brandt is a regular guy who likes to grow pot. Because of this he's
> > been sentenced to seven months in maximum security, he's lost his job and
> > his home, and the cops stole his model planes.

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:phloem@islandnet.com) wrote:
My heart is breaking.

You break the law, you go to jail. Whether I agree or disagree about the
illegality of marijuana is not the issue - the fact is that under existing
Canadian law, growing, possessing, or using it is illegal, and so you go
to jail: do not pass go, do not collect $200.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:drummond@infoserve.net) wrote:
Sounds more like a drug trafficer than a 'regular guy' to me.

> > In mid-June, cops raided the Surrey home of Dave Brandt. When Dave returned
> > home from his job working as a mechanic and welder he discovered that his
> > house had been ransacked, and that his fifty pot plants and cultivation
> > equipment was missing, along with a pair of remote controlled planes which
> > he owned.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:drummond@infoserve.net) wrote:
A mechanic?  I wouldn't want him working on my car or other equipment.

50 pot plants?  Just for "personal use" right?

> > His brother told him that police had raided the house, pointing their guns
> > at him as they emptied the place out.

> > Two days later the police showed up at Dave's place of work, charged him
> > with cultivation of marijuana, and arrested him. Dave explained that the
> > cops treated him "like a murderer", not as someone who had simply grown
> > forbidden plants.

> > In cases like this the accused is normally released without bail on a
> > promise to appear, but Dave was denied bail because the prosecution claimed
> > he would start another grow operation. Dave spent about 5 weeks in jail
> > before being released by a judge, but his troubles didn't end there.

> > Three days after finally being released on bail, his probation officer
> > ordered him returned to prison. This was because Dave had admitted that he
> > had a suspicion who had ratted on his grow operation and called
> > Crimestoppers. Dave explained to me that [he] valued his freedom and that
> > he hadn't made any attempt to confirm his suspicions or to confront anyone.
> > Nevertheless, he was returned to prison.

> > Dave was denied legal aid since he had a job, but since he was in prison he
> > couldn't work and so couldn't afford a lawyer. He defended himself, plead
> > guilty, and in August was sentenced to four months imprisonment, on top of
> > the three months he had already spent in prison waiting for trial. He is
> > scheduled to be released on December 22.

> > Dave's brother was also charged, sentenced to 18 months probation and 45
> > community hours, and forbidden to live with Dave for three months. Dave
> > explained that his brother is a "slow learner" who can't hold a regular job
> > and is dependent upon Dave for support. Dave described his brother as his
> > "best friend" and said it was a tremendous blow to know that he would be
> > separated from him even after being released from prison.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:drummond@infoserve.net) wrote:
Probably a slow learner because of all the pot smoking earlier in life...

> > Aside from the loss of seven months of his life and the personal violation
> > and humiliation of being stuck in a maximum security prison with violent
> > and sexual offenders, Dave is angry that the cops stole his remote control
> > planes and helicopter. He'd built them himself from kits, and was proud of
> > his collection.

> > The cops deny taking the planes, but Dave explained that the planes were
> > sitting in his bedroom as he had planned on flying them after work, and
> > that they weren't there after his house was raided. No doubt some narc made
> > a personal seizure.

> > The cops also seized all of Dave's grow books, copies of magazines like
> > Hempfest Times, High Times, and of course Cannabis Canada, as well as his
> > collection of 86 pipes, many of which he had made himself.

> > At the going rate of $325 per prisoner per day, it has cost BC taxpayers
> > about $60,000 to keep Dave locked up. This figure doesn't include the tens
> > of thousands of dollars spent on court costs and associated expenses, nor
> > the many police hours spent investigating Dave, seizing, cataloging and
> > destroying his property, and testifying against him in court.

> > Because of the arrest and the time he's spending in jail, Rob has lost his
> > job and been evicted the home he was renting with his brother. Before the
> > prohibition enforcers intruded into his life Dave was a working taxpayer
> > who supported his dependent brother. When he is released from jail he will
> > be homeless, unemployed, broke, and with a criminal record. His brother has
> > had to move in with his mother for support, but Dave wants to live with his
> > brother again as soon as possible.

> >>>> Don Wagner (mailto:donw@coastnet.com) wrote:
You forgot to describe what the RENTED (Property of someone else) home
looked like after your hero converted it to a greenhouse. You forgot to
describe the bypasses on the Hydro meter where your hero stole power

If your hero cant do the time, then don't do the crime.

> > Sadly, Dave's story is a common one. There are tens of thousands of people
> > all across Canada who have their lives viciously torn apart by our nation's
> > archaic drug laws.


I would sooner support the MODERN DRUG LAWS OF MALAYSIA and SINGAPORE. In
these countries if you have drugs, it is an automatic death penalty. It
helps to keep the streets clear of garbage, drug users.

> > To get in touch with Dave Brandt, you can leave a message with Randy Caine
> > of The Joint in Surrey, at (604) 583-7004, or on his brother's message
> > pager at (604) 252-4822.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:drummond@infoserve.net) wrote:
These guys who want pot legalized have been smoking too much already.
Just what we need, a bunch of stoned losers running around trying to
function in society.  More like malfunction.

> Besides stupidly supporting Prohibition, which has fostered violence and
> official corruption on a level unseen since 1933, these three ignorant
> Canadians believe in:

> 1) violating prisoners' rights
> 2) unconstitutional overcrowding of jails
> 3) "break the law, go to jail", regardless of the offense or the fairness
>    of the law
> 4) assuming a pot grower is a drug trafficker, while real drug traffickers
>    (alcohol & nicotine merchants) ply their lethal, legal drugs daily
> 5) the falsehood that growing pot is committing a crime against people
> 6) assuming that growing pot at home somehow damages the home
> 7) being insensitive to "slow learners", while displaying their own
>    profound resistance to being able to learn

My suggestion to these three blind mice is that they take up residence in
Singapore (news:soc.culture.singapore). They'll feel much more at home
there, until they break a law such as spitting on the sidewalk, picking
flowers, not flushing a public urinal, importing chewing gum, etc.

But after all, "break the law, go to jail"...
 
They're lucky that stupidity isn't a crime in Canada (yet).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 09:50:27 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 07:41:54 -0700
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Actually, Islam considers Jews brothers and sisters, since both religions
accept the founding of Abraham.

In the case of the marriage of one rich JEWISH female, to a rich Islamic
male, so what. It may be just a marriage of convenience, so that both
families get into the news,at leats into TIME>


On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Gailani wrote:
> rh@gulfstream.org (Red Herring) wrote:
> >>-On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:14:21 -0600, Tamara Lavorgna
> >>- wrote:
> >>->Is that true that a pretty jewish girl, a daughter of 5th richest guy in
> >>->Britain married to a Pakistani sportsman who is twice her age?

> >>->If it is, then how it happened and when?

> >>-	She was a self-hater.   Thankfully, she converted to Islam
> >>-	and therefore is no longer Jewish.

> >>-	I wish all self-haters followed her lead.

> Thanks, we welcome all self haters and convert them to self lovers. 
> I think it is good for them and society in general. So come on, we will take
> care of you.
> gailani



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 11:10:48 PST 1996
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It seems that many of the respondents to the sensible comments of Ed
Panker, just do not believe in the concept of RESPONSIBILITY!!!



On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Vera Casteel wrote:
> In article <57lo9j$j30_007@compusmart.ab.ca>, ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca 

And what part of that equation excuses the PARENTS of said "people" to take 
hold of their responsibility and also set something aside to put the kids 
through ... hmm?

Why not think about THAT before bedding some woman, doing the horizontal 
mambo, squeezing out kids, THEN fretting about how they are going to be 
clothed, fed, and SCHOOLED!

This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a 
LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly - but no brains whatsoever 
to screw and make babies ...

> And what about those parents who planned their children because they had 
> plenty of money for schooling, clothing, feeding, etc. and then end up 
> losing their jobs? Things happen in life which people can't help and 
> can't necessarily plan for.

If people are too stupid to put aside money for "a rainy day", then they
must accept their own responsibility for their offspring.

> What about those parents who are young and just starting their careers, 
> maybe not having enough money to put the kid through school yet or even 
> set aside money for that, but they move up in their careers later and are 
> making plenty of money to help their kids through school?

If they are old enough to now have students ready for a so-called
education beyond grade 12, then they are old enough to know better. They
should have put aside some of their tobacco,booze,and bingo money for the
education of their children.

> What about kids in foster homes who don't *have* parents? Should they be 
> working at McD's the rest of their life because their parents aren't even 
> *alive* anymore? Gee... the parents couldn't plan for that one.


If the student has any initiative, combined with a modicum of
intelligence, there are more than enough bursaries and scholarships for
those students deserving.



I maintain that all students should first EARN the FULL COSTS of their
education, before entering any advanced education institution.

If, instead of paying only the present 14-18% of the costs of their mainly
useless courses,they had to pay ALL 100%, then perhaps they would be
annoyed enough to ensure that there would be a job, should they graduate.

Also, perhaps the students would also accept the responsibility of
ensuring they got proper instructors, who actually had recent, relevant
experience in the real world, rather than just sinecured snivel
servants sitting on their posteriors because they are unemployable.

I support the government policies of refusing to allow student loans to be
extinguished by bankruptcy. If you can't pay it back, don't borrow in the
first place.





From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Dec  3 18:02:12 PST 1996
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Further to the previous comments, there is only one cure for the disease
spreading faggots - INSTANT CREMATION!!!



On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Edward Williams wrote:
> eastside@mail.bright.net wrote:
> > Erik  wrote:
> > >I'm amazed at the ammount of homophobia there is here.  This is the
> > >21st century already.... where people should have the right to
> > >anything they want with their bodies or lives providing it is not
> > >harmful to another.....whether it is sex, drugs, or any other
> > >activity.....

> > Well, some of us just don't like queers and think that the act of
> > queerism is... well.... queer!

> Homophobia is not the correct word.  It is not (in most) a fear of fags,
> its an utter hatred of a man afraid to be a man, a piece of shit that
> likes to take it up the ass.  I am not afraid of faggots, I just think
> that the entire personality attached to the practice is only worthy of a
> bullet.
Y



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Further to the previous comments, there is only one cure for the disease
spreading faggots - INSTANT CREMATION!!!



On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Edward Williams wrote:
> eastside@mail.bright.net wrote:
> > Erik  wrote:
> > >I'm amazed at the ammount of homophobia there is here.  This is the
> > >21st century already.... where people should have the right to
> > >anything they want with their bodies or lives providing it is not
> > >harmful to another.....whether it is sex, drugs, or any other
> > >activity.....

> > Well, some of us just don't like queers and think that the act of
> > queerism is... well.... queer!

> Homophobia is not the correct word.  It is not (in most) a fear of fags,
> its an utter hatred of a man afraid to be a man, a piece of shit that
> likes to take it up the ass.  I am not afraid of faggots, I just think
> that the entire personality attached to the practice is only worthy of a
> bullet.
Y



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Actually, the foul faggots DO affect every normal human being!!!

Have you not heard of AIDS, the disease spread deliberately by faggots?
Have you not read the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON", which details the
spread of AIDS worldwide, deliberately, by the Canadian faggot with Air
Canada?

Do you not know of the spread of AIDS by faggots deliberately giving
infected blood to blood donor services?



On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, D-Man wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 06:03:29 GMT, eastside@mail.bright.net wrote:

> >Well, some of us just don't like queers and think that the act of
> >queerism is... well.... queer!

> As if. Who cares? Do they put the moves on you? True gays tend to hang
> around with gays. So tell me how that affects you one bit? There are a
> lot of groups in this world that conflict with certain beliefs but
> that is tough. Gays have been around for 1000s of years. Just live
> with it. I am not sure how homophobia is useful or relevant. Do Gays
> affect you at all???? Didn't think so.


The only good queer is a cremated one, whether alive or not doesn't matter
with such diseased pieces of excrement.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Dec  5 08:04:14 PST 1996
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First of all, I am confident that the execution of criminals, including
those involved as faggots spreading AIDS, crooked cops, judges and liars,
plus of course all the social workers,and welfare workers involved in
getting criminals out of parole, would be a magnificent fund-raiser for
the JUSTICE SYSTEM.

Who says that the scum should just be shot, or electrocuted?
 
Why not auction off the right to exterminate all the vermin of society,
with first rights going to victims.
 
I am sure that some of the victims, such as those who have had children
raped, would be able to come up with imaginative forms of execution, such
as:

 	target practice for victims, police, or military, but using dumdum
 	bullets
 
 	medical experiments, without bothering about anaesthetics
 
 	body parts harbesting from healthy criminals,when executed
	
	experiments to find more interesting ways to eliminate criminals
 
 	experiments to determine and document the "splatter effect" of
 	drops from heights, such as from airplanes
 
 	experiments to determine the incineration effect, such as instant
 	cremation, of criminals, and how much space is required for the ashes
 
 
 
In other words, the criminals, and their parasitic supporters of the
injustice system, would finally be made into a cash resource.
 
Whether victims want to pay for the elimination of the garbage of society,
plus what the TV networks would pay to televise, and to really make money,
have the executions in large arenas charging good bucks to attend.
 
By the time enough of the scum of society and their hangers-on had seen a
few televised executions, there would be a real drop in serious crime,
particularly when we start to execute judges, lawyers and white collar
criminals togethjer with the rapists,murderers,drug pushers and similar.

> On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Porto wrote:
> > To the original point.
> > What form would televised execution be in?
> > Late night T.V for discerning adults to cuddle up next to each other on the 
> > sofa?Perhaps a series like your 'stuntmen' shows screened at peaktime 
> > saturdays before the wrestling (because lets face it we may as well get the 
> > violence out of the way-the difference being that one of these is a tad more 
> > realistic and shocking).Maybe a brief item on the news every 
> > night/lunchtime...Execution today?
> > Either way and in all cases a production crew,technology,and corporate 
> > ideology will be involved which means people making money from a person's 
> > death.This is without the added premium that advertisement stakes provide for 
> > the television network...and execution certainly would be a crowd pleaser.
> > Selling cars,dogfood and snacks with images of death is not a human 
> > concept...it is an economic one,execution is a humanitarian issue primarily.



Good points from Porto, well worth considering, together with added
comments.



From Wahrheit@cris.com Thu Dec  5 11:50:42 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: ACUMEN SILENCED !!???Gauleiter Gross wants to be Fuehrer of Freenet
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It seems that Gauleiter Gross, wishes to be the FUEHRER OF EDMONTON
FREENET.

As intphase has shown, Gross, who is really gross, prefers the
lickspittles from the AIDS and disease spreading faggots, to normal
people.

What is really gross, if its' objection to the headline regarding why
faggots with AIDS got $3 million, while seniors with diabetes must pay for
their medications!!!

Even children with diabetes, not of their lifestyle choice must pay for
medications, while perverts with AIDS get their lifestyle paid by the
taxpayers. This is really gross!!

Gross objects to republishing news stories uncomplimentary to his
favourite species - JEWS.

He even objected to this week's international news story, that HITLER SO
LIKED JEWS, he had many Jews in the Army, including a JEWISH FIELD
MARSHALL!!


What is also gross, is the fact that $200,000.00 of TAXPAYER money was
given to the BUSINESS run by Gross. He is the major employee,with a
so-called management contract.

The $200,000 mismanaged by Gross was money supposed to have gone to the
Edmonton Public Library, who while we read, is desperately seeking $1.6 in
funds to continue operations. This $200,000 would have helped their proper
operations.


Mind you, one of the accomplishments of Gross, for all his money taken
>from  taxpayers, is a drop of 50% of the paid up members of Edmonton
Freenet, from 31st October 1995 to 31st October 1996.

Thanks to the mismanagement of Gross, 3401 of the 6702 members from 1995
have not renewed their memberships!!!As was discussed at the public
meetings, any normal business would have gone under with this kind of
track record, but Gross is using $200,00.00 of TAXPAYER MONEY, not his own
money, so why worry?

Gross has stated in writing that only HE, with the advice of his faggot
friends,and lickspittle JEWS, will decide what is permitted in articles
and messages on Edmonton Freenet.

Not the laws of Canada, nor even the stated policies of the Financial
Sponsors of Edmonton Freenet.

What seems very hypocritical, is that the EDMONTON JOURNAL,ONE OF THE KEY
FINANCIAL SPONSORS, CLAIMS TO SUPPORT FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION,
EVEN FOR ERNST ZUNDEL.

Yet, according to Gross, they support his CENSORSHIP!!!

The Edmonton Public Library, another financial sponsor of Gross's
business, also allegedly supports freedom of speech and expression.
According to gross, they now support his censorship.


Either Gross is lying, or acting against the stated policies of the
Edmonton Journal and Edmonton Library.

At the AGM of Edmonton Freenet, Gross supported the cowardly prior Board
members, in refusing to accept the 4 new Board members, who were legally
qualified to join the Board.

Only when all those attending complained loudly, with some even
threatening lawsuits, did the unelected directors agree to allow the 4
candidates to be voted in by the members, who annointed the 4 by
acclamation.

This is the same Gross, who can not produce an Invenotory list showing all
the equipment, supposedly worth around $250,000.00 allegedly owned by
Edmonton Freenet.This, despite comments from a technician with EFN,
alleging major irregularities regarding equipment, including allegations
that some equipment was bought by EFN, for another business!!!

Gross, and EFN, are now under investigation by the office of the
Auditor-General of Canada, in connection with irregularities regarding the
taxpayers' $200,000.00.

Gross is also under investigation by the RCMP on a citizen's charges
regarding certain possible criminal activities. Independent witnesses also
want to testify against Gross regarding these matters.

Edmonton Freenet is neither free, nor is it fair.

If you do not toe the communistic faggot-loving party line, you get
disconnected, despite the blathering of the financial sponsors.

On 5 Dec 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> ACUMEN CENSORED ???!!!!
> 
> The Director of Edmonton Freenet, Keith Gross, has seen fit to Remove
> Net privileges from the dreaded Acumen.  The vermin and maggots of
> society are ecstatically happy, of course, that a voice of light and truth
> is silenced and censored.
> 
> It's okay to have child pornography where little kids are drugged, 
> assaulted, and frequently murdered.  This is called artistic freedom.
> 
> It's okay for women to be beaten and forced to have sex with animals.  
> This is called freedom of expression.
> 
> It's okay for every filthy disgusting pervert to defile decency.  This is
> freedom of speech.
> 
> It's okay for foul mouthed vermin to spew their vomit.  Profanity and 
> slander are encouraged.                             
> 
> BUT IT IS A MORTAL SIN FOR ACUMEN TO WHAT ??  He supports
> families, honesty and decency.  He opposed criminals, perverts and 
> assorted evils of society.  FOR THIS HE IS CENSORED?  HIS WORST
> CRIME IS TO HAVE A BIG MOUTH.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Thu Dec  5 15:36:05 PST 1996
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I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel's site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on  facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I've
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews'
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don't even know what he
is about.

 > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Actually, the term HOLOCAUST originally referred to the Turkish slaughter
of the Armenians in the early 1900's. The termn was then used by jew pr
hacks as their term for the alleged people who disappeared in WWII.

Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

 > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
 > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
 > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
 > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
 > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
 > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
 > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
 > movement.

 > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
 > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
 > conspiracy to accept Zundel's claims.

Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

 > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

 > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
 > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
 > THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?  

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist 
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?  

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and 
the western Reform Party? 

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???  

> I don't know about the "JEWS", but I understand that the Jews were in 
> fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then 
 >resolved with the government.  

You still did not respond to the above point made, namely why should the 
more than 98% of non-JEWS in Quebec have to obey the French label laws, 
while only the cursed JEWS are able somehow to avoid the laws of sovereign
Quebec? The Catholics and Christians of other sects MUST obey the laws, 
while the JEWS break the laws with impunity.  




From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec  6 17:44:44 PST 1996
Article: 84136 of alt.revisionism
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: edm.general,can.general,alt.revisionism,alt.censorship
Subject: Gauleiter Gross Wants to be Freenet Fuehrer,or Goebbels
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:00:14 -0500
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Gauleiter Keith Gross, the overpaid flunky running Edmonton Freenet, which
is a paid BUSINESS, running with $200,000.00 of taxpayer money, plus
annual fees from users, now wishes to be the GRAND CENSOR, just like his
hero Josef Goebbels.

Gross Gross prefers to have newsgroups for alt.sex.******

Gross Gross prefers newsgroups for alt.pedophilia.*****

Gross Gross prefers comments support diseased faggots spreading AIDS.

Gross Gross does not want discussion of why FAGGOTS IN ALBERTA GET $3
Million for their drugs, just for a few diseased faggots, while SENIORS
AND DIABETICS, who are NORMAL WORTHWHILE PEOPLE MUST PAY FOR THEIR
MEDICATIONS.

Gross Gross does not like articles posted, repeating news stories
uncomplimentary to JEWS, such as the fact that the JEW BRONFMAN illegally
moved 2.2. BILLION dollars out of Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on the money.

Gross Gross did not like the repeat of the international news story about
JEWS TRYING AGAIN TO CLOSE DOWN ZUNDELSITE.

Gros Gross has stated that he is the sole CENSOR of what will be
acceptable on the publicly funded Edmonton Freenet.

This, despite the fact that two of the additional financial sponsors of
the business - the Edmonton Journal, and the Edmonton Public Library -
have both stated they DO NOT SUPPORT CENSORSHIP, OR THE ACTIONS OF GROSS.

If you feel that CENSHORSHIP should not be tolerated, then contact
postmaster@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, as well as the Auditor General of
Canada, the Edmonton Journal,and other Canadian media.



From wahrheit@concentric.net Sat Dec  7 09:55:00 PST 1996
Article: 84223 of alt.revisionism
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From: echte Wahrheit 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: HITLER HAD JEWS IN HIS ARMY
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:26:32 +0700
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To: Tim Nye 

Tim Nye wrote:
> 
> In article <32A42B25.54E7@concentric.net> echte Wahrheit  concentric.net> (really WILLIAM GROSVENOR, but I won't tell) writes:
> 
> >According to the documentary evidence, the German army in January 1944
> >knew of 77 "high ranking officers of mixed Jewish race or married to a
> >Jew" serving in the Wehrmacht.             ^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Newsflash: William Grosvenor publicly claims Jews are a race.
> 
> Film at 11.
> 
> Tim
The Jew Tim Nye LIES again, as usual.

I did NOT say damn Jews are a race,but was quoting from a comment in a
news story, cited.

What can one exoect from the Christ-killers,but more lies,inbred after
2,000 years as a genetic defect,I believe.

Mind you, norice that the JEWS are not denying the truth that there were
even Jewish Generals in the German Army.

One must then wonder, if Hitler had prominet Jews in his army, is the
holohoax just fiction created by SOME Jews, to extort money from
gullible non-Jews???


From wahrheit@concentric.net Sat Dec  7 11:38:05 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Subject: Re: William Grosvenor, acumen - Preparing many lawsuits!!!
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To: cjones@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

cjones@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> jkodish@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> : whitcomb@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> : : No. Freedom of speech is far more than just the right to say whatever you
> : : want. Rather, it is a priviledge where the user should ALWAYS act in a
> : : responsible and civilised manner.
> 
> : Woa! Freedom of speech *is* a right, and probably the most in need of
> : protection. I support the Freenet's termination of Groswhiner because he
> : harrassed other people and threatened them with legal action.
> : *Not* because he hates particular groups and thinks everyone should be
> : dead.
> : If we make freedom of speech a priviledge, than those who speak out
> : against autocratic government, or government or other corrupt entities,
> : are at risk of losing their voice.
> : Who gets to decide whether that priviledge should or shouldn't be revoked
> : in this society?
> 
>         I would point out that there is no society in the world that
> permits *unrestrained* Freedom of Speech - even the USA does not, with the
> classic example of restraint on speech being the prohibition on yelling
> "Fire" in a crowded theatre.
> 
>         Rights carry with them Responsibilities.  The Right of Free Speech
> carries with it the Responsibility to use it wisely - not to abuse it.
> While I do not believe that Speech should be restricted, as a basic right,
> there are clear limits, beyond which it is no longer use, but rather
> *abuse* of that Right.  It is at that point where the individual should be
> fettered, at the point where the Freedom to speak as you wish endangers
> others.  Grosvenor passed that line.
> 
>         This isn't a Free Speech issue.  The Freenet hasn't restricted
> Grosvenor's right to express himself - it's just telling him to do it
> elsewhere.  There's a classic ruling, that "Freedom of the Press is for
> those who have one".  FreeNet's decision in no way impairs Mr. Grosvenor's
> ability to express himself - he is more than able to go out and rent a
> Xerox machine for a few minutes; or to speak in a public place; or use
> another Internet provider.
> 
>         The question of whether Mr. Grosvenor's statements are illegal,
> libellous, slanderous (well, one of the two...), and hate-mail; or simply
> are in bad taste, is not one that should be decided by this newsgroup, nor
> by the Freenet, but rather by the courts.  I have been told that charges
> are contemplated against Mr. Grosvenor - the proper place to deal with his
> hate-filled messages.
> 
>         While this decision on the part of the FreeNet is not a defeat for
> Freedom of Speech, it is a victory for good taste, and especially a
> victory for those silent, and those not-so-silent, members of the FreeNet,
> who do not agree with his views, and do not wish to be associated with
> him, and his venom.
> 
>         There is much rejoicing tonight, in Cyberia, and rightly so.
> 
> --
> /---- Chris Jones - Proud to be a Canadian ----------------------------------\
> |"As American as apple pie, as Canadian as possible under the circumstances."|
> |       E. Heather Scott, "This Country in the Morning", 1971                |
> \----------------------------------------------------------------------------/


Perhaps you are rejoicing too soon, all you maggots!!!

The lawyers and the RCMP are all busy, while we speak, preparing charges
against those responsible, Keith Gross included.he knows why I met with
the RCMP today, and it was no joking matter either.

Legal papers are being drafted for the Directors of Edmonton Freenet, as
well as those others involved in defamation.

As for those of you who support restraint of speech, just because you
support diseased AIDS spreaders, wait till you receive your summonses
before you cheer.

I am known internationally for not just getting angry, but for getting
even. Some people even had to keep on losing 16 international projects
before they learned that I never give up.


From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec  7 15:30:51 PST 1996
Article: 102957 of soc.culture.canada
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.crime,soc.culture.canada,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Televisual nightmare? - How to get Rid of Criminals
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I think that anyone spreading AIDS, whether faggot or someone using
faggots or prostitutes, deserves the DEATH PENALTY, for spreading AIDS.

Not for having illicit sex.

On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Phil Clarke, Jr. wrote:

>  wrote:
> 
> >First of all, I am confident that the execution of criminals, including
> >those involved as faggots spreading AIDS, crooked cops, judges and liars,
> >plus of course all the social workers,and welfare workers involved in
> >getting criminals out of parole, would be a magnificent fund-raiser for
> >the JUSTICE SYSTEM.
> 
> What about straight people who spread AIDS?  Statistics show that the
> majority of new AIDS victims are heterosexual drug users, or men who
> frequent prostitutes.  Does a guy who, unknowingly has AIDS, get
> executed for giving it to his wife or girlfriend?  Or does your idea
> apply to just homosexuals?
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> http://www.webcom.com/dogglebe
> visit the website, damnit!!!
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sun Dec  8 08:37:37 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Re: HITLER HAD JEWS IN HIS ARMY
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:48:59 -0500
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Actually I have laid the charges with the RCMP against the person with
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Edmonton freenet, which is a business for which I paid a year in advance,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and is not free!!!

They have now SWINDLED me out of the year's prepayment of service fees.

On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Kurt Stele wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:49:17 +0800, Bjorn Vang Jensen
>  wrote:

> >So William Grosvenor is back, using his Wahrheit address after Freenet
> >kicked him off. Everyone, please start copying postmaster@concentric.net
> >on all replies to Mr. Grosvenor's posts.

> Your response is to suppress.  You're a holohugging dick, a
> Jew-sucking coward.  

> >Mr./Ms. Postmaster, please pay attention to Mr. Grosvenor's posts on
> >Usenet newsgroups, he has just been kicked off the net by
> >postmaster@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca for hatemongering. You can read all
> >about him on
> >http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william/background-grosvenor.
> >I strongly suggest you do so, as he is the subject of several ongoing
> >police investigations, as well as a convicted criminal. 

> What was his "crime"?  Anti-semitism or something else?

> Kurt Stele

> At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson
> charged that the Germans invented" a device to instantaneously
> "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no
> trace left of them." IMT blue series, Vol. 16, p. 529-530. (June 21,
> 1946).  No reputable historian now accepts this fanciful tale. 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec  9 05:19:26 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Re: Gauleiter Gross Wants to be Freenet Fuehrer,or Goebbels
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What really got Jews annoyed, was the news story about prominent JEWS in
HITLER'S ARMY!!!

If there could be a Jewish Field marshall in Hitler's Army, what
credibility is there to all of the HOLOHOAX???

Even the Jews and Nizkooks admitted that there were many Jews in the
german Wehrmacht. Did they reduce their fictitious numbers, by the number
of Jews in the German Army, as well as the Jews assisted to leave Germany
by the German Jewish military officers, such as the head of the
Lubavitchers??

On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Kurt Stele wrote:

> On 7 Dec 1996 16:54:26 GMT, gbobkiew@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (Greg
> Bobkiewicz) wrote:
> 
> >tom moran (tm@pacificnet.net) wrote:
> >: 	Anyway, Nizkor boasts it's for freedom of speech and yet here we
> >: have applause for someone getting thrown off some service.
> 
> >	Bullshit. Grosvenazi was harrassing people, 
> 
> Because the Jewish definition of "harrassment" is notoriously broad
> and known to encompass all inconvenient facts concerning the
> "Holocaust", Jewish media control, criticism of Israel's atrocities
> against Palestinians, and criticism of Jews in general, the
> highly-influential Jewish establishment is the most dangerous threat
> to Western free speech in existence.
> 
> >so he was punished accordingly.  
> 
> Right.
> 
> >Besides, anti-semites are usually the same type of people who would 
> >censor other peoples freedom of speech.
> 
> I get it.   "Pre-emptive" censoring is OK.
> 
> Kurt Stele
> 
> "[M]ost of the memoirs and reports [of "Holocaust survivors"] are full
> of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects,
> overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be
> lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies."  
> 
> Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz in _Jewish Social Studies _(New
> York), January 1950, Vol. 12, p. 65. 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From wahrheit@concentric.net Mon Dec  9 05:19:27 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Subject: Re: HITLER HAD JEWS IN HIS ARMY
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To: Tim Nye 

Tim Nye wrote:
> 
> In article <32A42B25.54E7@concentric.net> echte Wahrheit  concentric.net> (really WILLIAM GROSVENOR, but I won't tell) writes:
> 
> >According to the documentary evidence, the German army in January 1944
> >knew of 77 "high ranking officers of mixed Jewish race or married to a
> >Jew" serving in the Wehrmacht.             ^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Newsflash: William Grosvenor publicly claims Jews are a race.
> 
> Film at 11.
> 
> Tim
The Jew Tim Nye LIES again, as usual.

I did NOT say damn Jews are a race,but was quoting from a comment in a
news story, cited.

What can one exoect from the Christ-killers,but more lies,inbred after
2,000 years as a genetic defect,I believe.

Mind you, norice that the JEWS are not denying the truth that there were
even Jewish Generals in the German Army.

One must then wonder, if Hitler had prominent Jews in his army, is the
holohoax just fiction created by SOME Jews, to extort money from
gullible non-Jews???


From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 13 05:45:06 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: CANADIAN DIPLOMAT INVESTIGATED RE ISRAELI DRUG SMUGGLING
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Southam Newspapers in banner headlines across Canada, today reported that
a senior Canadian diplomat in Israel, Douglas Wardle, a 20 year veteran
was returned to canada last month after Israeli police reported to the
Canadian Embassy that they suspected Wardle of smuggling drugs into
Israel.

Israeli media have reported that the drugs were smuggled by Wardle into
Tel Aviv using Canadian diplomatic pouches.

Nicole Krau, a reporter with the Israeli daily newspaper HAARETZ said that
the 2 Israelis detained by the Israeli Police are connected with suspected
cocaine trafficking.



From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 13 14:23:06 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.europe
Subject: IMMIGRANTS - AVOID CANADA
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William Grosvenor has given very serious information for the consideration
of potential immigrants to Canada.
  
AVOID CANADA should be compulsory reading for any potential investor
considering moving to Canada.
  

His points in AVOID CANADA, such as the warning about SWINDLING by
promoters, has been well documented not only in media in Canada, but even
the papers in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and Taiwan have carried
stories of victims of Canadian immigration fraud.
  

In AVOID CANADA, he warns about the confiscatory Canada Income Tax
starting at 63%. Compare this to the 15% in Hong Kong, or zero percent in
some countries under certain circumstances.
 
Don't also forget, that effective 1st January 1996, all Chinese immigrants
will be taxed at around 60% Income Tax, on the VALUE of their overseas
assets, not on their income. This came into force, following the expose
that gwaliau JEWS,the Bronfmans,had illegally moved more than 2.2 BILLION
dollars out of Canada, without paying the Income Taxes on it!!!It seems
that the Canadians feel that the Chinese are stupid enough to lose most of
their life savings, to make up for the taxes the JEWS did not pay.
 

He warns about the lack of traditional family values, which is a
cornerstone of life among European and Asian families. Why is he being
criticised  for warning about the homosexual-run Canada?
  

In AVOID CANADA he explained how AIDS was spread worldwide by the Canadian
homosexual with Air Canada, and that the Canadian Government knew this and
did nothing. The book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON", gives complete details. 
Now AIDS endangers the lives of everyone,not just queers.
 
In AVOID CANADA he referred to the Krever Royal Commission into the tAIDS
tainted blood distributed by the Canadian Red Cross Blood Service. Surely
you should know that if you need blood for an operation in Canada, that
you run the risk of AIDS?
  

In other words, the points mentioned in AVOID CANADA are of real
significance and concern to anyone considering emigration.
 
Investors,and intending Immigrants should seriously consider AVOIDING CANADA.
 

Some of the reasons include:
If you believe in traditional family values,then this no longer exists in
Canada.Did you know that the faggot loving Canadian Government now gives
special rights to perverts and homosexuals?This means that you and your
family now run increased risks regardings AIDS and other STD from these
perverts,apart from significant increased costs for health care.
 

Did you know that most of the so-called investor immigrants have in fact
been swindled,according to all the reliable news media here in canada?Are
you so desperate to leave Hong Kong,and other parts of S.E.Asia that you
fail to take proper care in checking these so-called investments?Even
senior government officials from Canada are involved in these
multi-million dollar frauds,such as Mr.Dutton from Alberta,who took many
millions from you. And he is just one of many thousands of swindles 
recently.
 

Political instability is another serious concern. Who has not read or
heard about the wishes of the province of Quebec? There, the
sovereigntists wish to be an independent state, similar to those in EU.

Even many westerners, particularly in Alberta have similar aspirations.


In Canada there are no rpotected RIGHTS, as exists under the Constitution
of the USA. This is extremely importants, since in Canada there is no
protected FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Just ask Ernst
Zundel, or Jim Keegstra for proof of this.

In Canada there is NO PROPERTY RIGHTS, just as was formerly in the Soviet
Union. The government can, and does, STEAL YOUR ASSETS, one way or
another.

In Canada the government does not even want honest citizens to own guns.
Only the corrupt police and criminals will have guns.



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 14 07:55:11 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: JEWS TRY AGAIN TO CLOSE DOWN ZUNDELSITE ON WWW
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So what, regarding the alleged 72,000 who died in Auschwitz?

Do you care about the hundreds of thousands who are killed and maimed
every year on US highways??

So, what's the difference between those murdered by drunks on the
highway,and any other corpse? They are all dead,and killed.

On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 rcf@inetworld.net wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:13:40 -0600, Doc Tavish
> <"tavish@phoenix.net"@phoenix.net> wrote:
> 
> >Force wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:19:16 GMT, bernst2@uwindsor.ca (Andrew
> >> Bernstein) wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <32aba194.14754856@news.direct.ca>, Private@direct.ca wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:56:42 -0500, WAHRHEIT  opened
> >> >>his mouth & droolled:
> >> >
> >> >>>Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
> >> >>>confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
> >> >>>Soviet documents.
> 
> It is truly amazing to me that someone can so easily discuss the death
> of 72,000 human beings as if it were just a blip on the radar screen
> of history.  
> 
> What an incredibly sad commentary.
> 
> =Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 14 08:44:15 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..
     
Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.
     
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???
 
 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 14 08:46:32 PST 1996
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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..
     
Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.
     
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???
 
 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 14 14:04:38 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR CRIMINALS' SEX CHANGE
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Canadian MP is complaining about taxpayers having to pay for a sex change
operation for a criminal in prison.

This alleged human is requesting the operation, so that it can then become
another pervert,earning from the other depraved prisoners in his
institution.

I say, that sooner than have the taxpayers pay for his operation, let his
"buddies" in the prison perform the operation. They can always use sharp
instruments such as lids from cans,or similar,can't they, as is used on
"skinners"



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From: WAHRHEIT 
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PAST PRESIDENT CGA - CRIMINAL TRIAL - GETS 3 1/2 YEARS IN PRISON!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   
WARNING RE CGA CANADA
   
OF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, ACCOUNTANTS  AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC
   
CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?
   
   
Further to previous news reports,the Past President of CGA Alberta,
William L. Mearns, 52, has finally been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison
on his conviction for embezzling more than C$1.3 million from the County
of Red Deer,Alberta.
   
Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with stories
of major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS
(CGA's) in Canada.
   
In Alberta, the media have had a field day for the past year, reporting on
the fact that a PAST PRESIDENT OF CGA ALBERTA, and FCGA and CGA, was under
criminal investigation, was charged with 14 serious criminal charges, and
has now been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.
   
The complaints against Mearns were originally filed by the Hongkong Bank
to the RCMP Commercial Crime Division.
 
The HK Bank were complaining about William L. Mearns, who had been for 12
years the Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red deer, Alberta.
  
MEARNS WAS CHARGED WITH 14 SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES, as reported by
CFRN-TV, the Edmonton Sun, and Red Deer Advocate. Among the charges are 5
charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of making a false
document, 2 more charges of forgery, one more charge of fraud, and one of
theft over $5,000.00
  
MORE THAN 1.3 MILLION DOLLARS was documented in Court as embezzled by
Mearns.
   
Following a third adjournment requested by Mearns, on 4th October 1996,
Mearns was convicted, and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.
   
The Special Crown Prosecutor stated " the motive in this case is very
obvious. The motive in everything I've seen is greed."  "He was in a
position of public trust. In essence, he stole the money from each and
every ratepayer in this county."
   
At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or EVEN TO
MEMBERS OF CGA ALBERTA, MEARNS WAS ALLOWED TO SECRETLY RESIGN BOTH HIS CGA
AND FCGA DESIGNATIONS.
   
This seems to be a first for Canada, where an FCGA surrenders what was
supposed to be a prestigious designation. In the past year Mearns and one
his businesses have both gone bankrupt.
   
   
Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in 1987-1988,
where he was involved with the ADMISSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF UNQUALIFIED
BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT ANY REQUIREMENT
FOR EDUCATION, QUALIFICATIONS, AND NO EXAMS, or even a requirement for
upgrading courses to bring them up to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta
of course benefitted financially, from the huge increase in dues and fees
>from  these new unqualified members.
   
   
The Vancouver Sun and other national media carried banner headlines
regarding ROMAN EVANCIC, another FCGA, who had got himself SHOT!!! This
was apparently in connection with some business partner and a collections
problem. The news reported that the assailant said, as he shot Evancic:
"I'm from your stock brokers. I understand you ripped him off."
(Vancouver Sun - 11 January 1996)
   
  
And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey, BC  CGA
convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow parishioners of
his church.
   
And now the media in Ontario are reporting regarding more scandals
involving senior members of CGA Ontario!!!  Will the bad news never stop?
  
   
Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that
the Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA's in those
provinces ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have
something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could
move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified, could still call
himself a CGA there?
  
   
As a result of the extensive bad publicity regarding problem CGA's in
Canada, CGA Canada is now desperately trying to recruit new members from
the ignorant in CHINA, S.E.Asia and the Caribbean.
   
  
Students of accounting in CHINA, S.E.Asia and the Caribbean, who must pay
many tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do YOU
feel about these  "gwaliau" whoi got the CGA for FREE?
 
  
Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession are
invited to respond.
  
   
    

 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 16 07:58:56 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:46:02 -0500
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In civilised nations, such as Malaysia and Singapore, junkies
automatically get the DEATH PENALTY.

This eliminates a lot of garbage people,and they do not care whether you
are American, Canadian or local - you all get the same stretch of hanging
rope!!!

A good way to clean up the streets of the criminal element.

On 15 Dec 1996, Don't Email Me wrote:

> In message  -
> WAHRHEIT Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:12:40 -0500 writes:
> >
> >Glad to see that SOME police feel that the drug laws need to be enforced.
> >
> >Hopefully, police across Canada will start to arrest all the junkies and
> >hopheads, and incarcerate them for longer than just 4 days.
> >
> >The only good druggie is a dead one. Help clean up society by asking the
> >MP's for even stricter drug laws - with the DEATH PENALTY even for
> >possession, let alone for traffickers.
> 
> I feel sorry for the police having to enforce laws that make little or no
> sense.
> It wastes their time, weighs heavy on their minds (cops are people too that
> like
> to have fun like the rest of us), and prevents them from keeping the streets
> clean
> of habitual offenders and real criminals due to the revolving door prison
> system
> created by overpopulated prisons.
> 
> Oh shit, looking at the header to this message, I now see it is massively
> cross-
> posted and no doubt you are 'trolling' for abuse. Oh well, so much for
> rational
> discussion.
> 
> BTW, what is a 'hophead'? I sthat like someone who drinks/makes malt/beer
> beverages?
> 
> 
> 



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The dope pushing criminal is lucky he isn't in Malaysia or Singapore. In
those civilised countries, they know what to do with drug criminals - they
get executed!!!In those countries it is the same penalty whether you are a
Canadian criminal, a Yank, or one of the locals. You get executed,period.

It helps clear the streets of the human garbage involved in
drugs,permanently.

>  (really William Grosvenor) writes:

> > Glad to see that SOME police feel that the drug laws need to be enforced.

> > Hopefully, police across Canada will start to arrest all the junkies and
> > hopheads, and incarcerate them for longer than just 4 days.

> > The only good druggie is a dead one. Help clean up society by asking the
> > MP's for even stricter drug laws - with the DEATH PENALTY even for
> > possession, let alone for traffickers.



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 16 07:59:00 PST 1996
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Glad to see that SOME police feel that the drug laws need to be enforced.

Hopefully, police across Canada will start to arrest all the junkies and
hopheads, and incarcerate them for longer than just 4 days.

The only good druggie is a dead one. Help clean up society by asking the
MP's for even stricter drug laws - with the DEATH PENALTY even for
possession, let alone for traffickers.

On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Chris Clay wrote:

> HEMP NATION RAIDED, PROPRIETOR CHRIS CLAY ARRESTED
> 
> WHAT HAPPENED?
> 
> As some of you know, the RCMP and London police raided the office, warehouse and retail 
> outlet of Hemp Nation last Friday, Dec. 6th.  Detective Tom Gaffney and a large cohort 
> of armed officers seized approximately $40,000 worth of seeds, pipes, water pipes and 
> other smoking accessories, along with our computers and financial records.  They 
> arrested one of my employees, Sarah, since she worked the counter when the undercover 
> "narcs" bought seeds; she has been charged with two counts of "trafficking a narcotic". 
> 
> Simultaneously, they also raided my home.  I was just waking up and heard a loud banging 
> at the door; once I opened it, the police poured into the house and searched it, finding 
> a gram of marijuana.  I was placed under arrest and taken to jail, where I remained for 
> four days.  I was charged with breaching my bail conditions, possession of a narcotic, 
> possession with intent to traffic (since I owned the seeds in the store), and "selling 
> drug paraphernalia".  
> 
> Apparently the police purchased seeds in June, and waited until we received our 
> Christmas stock before making the raid.  They deliberately busted me on Friday, since 
> they knew a judge wouldn't be available until at least Monday and they could lock me up 
> for the entire weekend.  Incidentally, while the raids took place a man robbed a bank a 
> block from our store, then had some drinks at a bar two doors down before escaping on 
> foot.
> 
> I was released on a $10,000 bail, 1/2 of which had to be paid in cash before I could 
> leave.  I can no longer sell any seeds, or even grow guides or water pipes.  We are 
> fully restocking the store with hemp products, like hemp paper, clothing, soap, food 
> etc.
> 
> WHY BUST HEMP NATION?
> 
> This follows a raid 1 1/2 years ago, when I was arrested for selling small marijuana 
> plants in my store.  With the help of Toronto law professor Alan Young, that case has 
> turned into a constitutional challenge and will be heard on April 28, 1997.
> 
> It is obvious that the police are trying to put pressure on me to plea bargain and drop 
> my upcoming cout challenge; the government wants to stop it at all costs.  I was already 
> offered a deal, where I could plead guilty to mere possession of marijuana and all my 
> other charges, and those against my friends and employees, would be dropped.  However, I 
> flatly refused.  My charges from the two raids are:
> 
> Possession of a narcotic (from 1995 & 1996)
> Possession with intent to traffic (from 1995 & 1996)
> Cultivation of marijuana (from 1995)
> Trafficking (from 1995)
> Selling drug parphernalia (from 1995 & 1996)
> Breach of bail conditions (1996)
> 
> Because of the raids, 2 employees were also charged with trafficking and 2 friends with 
> possession.
> 
> WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
> 
> If my court challenge is successful in April, cannabis will be removed from the criminal 
> code and it will be legal for medical, recreational and industrial use.  If I lose, it 
> will be appealed to the Supreme Court if necessary.  We have an impressive list of 
> potential witnesses, including Harvard psychiatrist Lester Grinspoon and many prominent 
> North American scientists and researchers.
> 
> Supporters have raised over $7,000 so far for the challenge.  However, another $5,000 - 
> $10,000 is required to present the case properly.  This will allow us to bring a number 
> of highly respected professionals to testify in person for maximum effect.  Their 
> testimony can also be used later by others fighting similar cases.  WE NEED YOUR HELP.
> 
> Please make a donation, however small, to finally end these oppressive laws.  If this 
> case succeeds, WE ALL WIN.  This is a chance to "do it right", an opportunity that must 
> not be missed.
> 
> Send donations to:
> 
> Hemp Nation
> 101-343 Richmond Street
> London, Ontario
> Canada  N6A 3C2
> 
> Direct any questions to chris.clay@hempnation.com
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> HEMP NATION - http://www.hempnation.com
> Chris Clay, proprietor - chris.clay@hempnation.com
> 101-343 Richmond St., London, ON, Canada N6A 3C2
> Voice (519) 433-5267 * Fax (519) 433-7725
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 16 22:49:08 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Re: Hemp Nation Bust - I'm out of the slammer
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Wht not do as the civilised nations of Malaysia and Singapore do?

In these countries, possession of drugs guarantees an automatic death
sentence, which is only proper.

By getting rid of the junkies, one also immediately reduces the incidences
of other crimes, such as robbery, prostitution, and similar crimes.

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, M Simon wrote:

> I quite agree. The DEA estimates that there are 10 million
> regular drug users in the country. 
> 
> If we execute 3,000 a day for 365 days a year we can kill them
> all off in less than ten years.
> 
> And with this as precident we can get rid of a lot of other
> undesireables as well.
> 
> Simon
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> WAHRHEIT  wrote:
> 
> >Glad to see that SOME police feel that the drug laws need to be enforced.
> 
> >Hopefully, police across Canada will start to arrest all the junkies and
> >hopheads, and incarcerate them for longer than just 4 days.
> 
> >The only good druggie is a dead one. Help clean up society by asking the
> >MP's for even stricter drug laws - with the DEATH PENALTY even for
> >possession, let alone for traffickers.
> 
> >On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Chris Clay wrote:
> 
> >> HEMP NATION RAIDED, PROPRIETOR CHRIS CLAY ARRESTED
> >> 
> >> WHAT HAPPENED?
> >> 
> >> As some of you know, the RCMP and London police raided the office, warehouse and retail 
> >> outlet of Hemp Nation last Friday, Dec. 6th.  Detective Tom Gaffney and a large cohort 
> >> of armed officers seized approximately $40,000 worth of seeds, pipes, water pipes and 
> >> other smoking accessories, along with our computers and financial records.  They 
> >> arrested one of my employees, Sarah, since she worked the counter when the undercover 
> >> "narcs" bought seeds; she has been charged with two counts of "trafficking a narcotic". 
> >> 
> >> Simultaneously, they also raided my home.  I was just waking up and heard a loud banging 
> >> at the door; once I opened it, the police poured into the house and searched it, finding 
> >> a gram of marijuana.  I was placed under arrest and taken to jail, where I remained for 
> >> four days.  I was charged with breaching my bail conditions, possession of a narcotic, 
> >> possession with intent to traffic (since I owned the seeds in the store), and "selling 
> >> drug paraphernalia".  
> >> 
> >> Apparently the police purchased seeds in June, and waited until we received our 
> >> Christmas stock before making the raid.  They deliberately busted me on Friday, since 
> >> they knew a judge wouldn't be available until at least Monday and they could lock me up 
> >> for the entire weekend.  Incidentally, while the raids took place a man robbed a bank a 
> >> block from our store, then had some drinks at a bar two doors down before escaping on 
> >> foot.
> >> 
> >> I was released on a $10,000 bail, 1/2 of which had to be paid in cash before I could 
> >> leave.  I can no longer sell any seeds, or even grow guides or water pipes..  We are 
> >> fully restocking the store with hemp products, like hemp paper, clothing, soap, food 
> >> etc.
> >> 
> >> WHY BUST HEMP NATION?
> >> 
> >> This follows a raid 1 1/2 years ago, when I was arrested for selling small marijuana 
> >> plants in my store.  With the help of Toronto law professor Alan Young, that case has 
> >> turned into a constitutional challenge and will be heard on April 28, 1997.
> >> 
> >> It is obvious that the police are trying to put pressure on me to plea bargain and drop 
> >> my upcoming cout challenge; the government wants to stop it at all costs.  I was already 
> >> offered a deal, where I could plead guilty to mere possession of marijuana and all my 
> >> other charges, and those against my friends and employees, would be dropped.  However, I 
> >> flatly refused.  My charges from the two raids are:
> >> 
> >> Possession of a narcotic (from 1995 & 1996)
> >> Possession with intent to traffic (from 1995 & 1996)
> >> Cultivation of marijuana (from 1995)
> >> Trafficking (from 1995)
> >> Selling drug parphernalia (from 1995 & 1996)
> >> Breach of bail conditions (1996)
> >> 
> >> Because of the raids, 2 employees were also charged with trafficking and 2 friends with 
> >> possession.
> >> 
> >> WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
> >> 
> >> If my court challenge is successful in April, cannabis will be removed from the criminal 
> >> code and it will be legal for medical, recreational and industrial use.  If I lose, it 
> >> will be appealed to the Supreme Court if necessary.  We have an impressive list of 
> >> potential witnesses, including Harvard psychiatrist Lester Grinspoon and many prominent 
> >> North American scientists and researchers.
> >> 
> >> Supporters have raised over $7,000 so far for the challenge.  However, another $5,000 - 
> >> $10,000 is required to present the case properly.  This will allow us to bring a number 
> >> of highly respected professionals to testify in person for maximum effect.  Their 
> >> testimony can also be used later by others fighting similar cases.  WE NEED YOUR HELP.
> >> 
> >> Please make a donation, however small, to finally end these oppressive laws.  If this 
> >> case succeeds, WE ALL WIN.  This is a chance to "do it right", an opportunity that must 
> >> not be missed.
> >> 
> >> Send donations to:
> >> 
> >> Hemp Nation
> >> 101-343 Richmond Street
> >> London, Ontario
> >> Canada  N6A 3C2
> >> 
> >> Direct any questions to chris.clay@hempnation.com
> >> 
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> HEMP NATION - http://www.hempnation.com
> >> Chris Clay, proprietor - chris.clay@hempnation.com
> >> 101-343 Richmond St., London, ON, Canada N6A 3C2
> >> Voice (519) 433-5267 * Fax (519) 433-7725
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 
> In the end people get the government they deserve.
> 
> Read "The Weapon Shops of Isher" by A.E. vanVogt
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 16 22:49:09 PST 1996
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In Malaysia and Singapore, even stupid yanks and canucks get the same
treatment as the locals - the opportunity to do the rope dance,at end
thereof.

These civilised countries treat all junkies as the criminals they are,and
have laws to exterminate such vermin, by way of an automatic death
sentence.

Their policy is simple, namely DADAH = DEATH!!!

Here in Alberta, the police have been aggressively prosecuting the junkies
this year, helping to fill up the prisons.

They are now also using the new laws to seize assets of the junkies, as
proceeds of crime. These Canadian laws are similar to the USA RICO laws.

As far as normal citizens go, the only good junkie is an executed one,
which immediately terminates the criminal activity.

On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, ken wrote:

> \\\
> 
> 
> 	I think everyone should send this pitiful s.o.b. some email.
> Let him see how many people disagree with him.
> 
> ken
> the unstoppable
> tulsa ok
> 
> 



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THIS IS A COMPLETE FORGERY,AND WAS NEVER SENT BY ME.

IF YOU DO A TRACE, IT SEEMS TO HAVE ORIGINATED FROM YOU,instead!!!

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Tim Nye wrote:

> Lookee what the computer just spit out:
> 
> 	From: WAHRHEIT 
> 	Newsgroups: alt.personals.ads
> 	Subject: Lonely SWM seeks ANYONE
> 	Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:20:27 GMT
> 
> 	I am a SWM living alone in the big city.  I dont have many friends 
> 	since i moved here.  Please write me and we can talk. If you are a 
> 	guy, thats ok, i like to talk with anyone. I would also like to meet 
> 	any nice women who want to talk to a shy but nice fellow.  Thanks!  
> 	email me at
> 
> 	WAHRHEIT 
> 
> But Mr. Grosvenor, I thought you had lots of friends down at the Liquor 
> Barn...
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 16 22:49:11 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Hemp Nation Bust - In Singapore Junkies Get Hanged!!
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One of the side benefits to living in Singapore, is that it is
internationally recognised as a SAFE city, whether daytime or at night!!!

Criminals there know they will get the short end of the rope, while being
hung that is.

An executed criminal, whether for drugs or any other crime, will never
re-offend, nor be a drain on the taxpayers either.

On 16 Dec 1996, Mike Williams wrote:

> "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone." Thus spoke
> Jesus at the stoning of the whore. Then a little old lady slowly walked out
> of the crowd and pick up the bigest rock. She slowly staggered over to the
> whore and dumped the rock on the whores head crushing her to death.
> 
> "Sometimes you really piss me off mum" Jesus yelled. 
> 
> Ever spat, in Singapore $300 fine.
> Ever chewed gun, in Singapore $300 fine.
> Ever had hair down to your collar, in Singapore $300 fine.
> Ever forgot to flush the toilet in Singapore gess what, $300 fine.
> Ever owned a Playboy, in Singapore pornography, $300 fine.
> 
> Yeah Singapore is a FINE FINE city.
> 
> 
> Explorer  wrote in article
> <32b4b6b6.53507715@news.airmail.net>...
> > On Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:46:02 -0500, WAHRHEIT  said
> > something like:
> > 
> > >In civilised nations, such as Malaysia and Singapore, junkies
> > >automatically get the DEATH PENALTY.
> > 
> > You are wrong.  Only those accused of trafficking are subject to
> > execution.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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Thank you for rebroadcasting my previous comments, on subjects unrelated
generally to the dopeheads being imprisoned.



On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, adamatom wrote:
> WAHRHEIT  wrote:
> 
> > The dope pushing criminal is lucky he isn't in Malaysia or Singapore. In
> > those civilised countries, they know what to do with drug criminals - they
> > get executed!!!In those countries it is the same penalty whether you are a
> > Canadian criminal, a Yank, or one of the locals. You get executed,period.

> > It helps clear the streets of the human garbage involved in
> > drugs,permanently.

> > >  (really William Grosvenor) writes:

> > > > Glad to see that SOME police feel that the drug laws need to be enforced.

> > > > Hopefully, police across Canada will start to arrest all the junkies and
> > > > hopheads, and incarcerate them for longer than just 4 days.

> > > > The only good druggie is a dead one. Help clean up society by asking the
> > > > MP's for even stricter drug laws - with the DEATH PENALTY even for
> > > > possession, let alone for traffickers.
> > Subject:      JEWS TRY AGAIN TO CLOSE DOWN ZUNDELSITE ON WWW

> > I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
> > international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > > > > Joey wrote:
> > I have recently visited Zundel's site and find nothing outrageous or
> > inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on  facts he believes
> > have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I've
> > read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews'
> > right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
> > right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
> > people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don't even know what he
> > is about.

> > Actually, the term HOLOCAUST originally referred to the Turkish slaughter
> > of the Armenians in the early 1900's. The termn was then used by jew pr
> > hacks as their term for the alleged people who disappeared in WWII.

> > Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
> > Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
> > contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

> > Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
> > confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
> > Soviet documents.

> >  > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> >  > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
> >  > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
> >  > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
> >  > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
> >  > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
> >  > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> >  > movement.

> >  > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> >  > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
> >  > conspiracy to accept Zundel's claims.

> > Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
> > controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
> > to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

> >  > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

> >  > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
> >  > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
> >  > THAT is libel.

> > Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
> > incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
> > the Jewish versions of history.

> > After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
> > BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
> > on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

> > What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
> > popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?  

> > What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist 
> > Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?  

> > What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and 
> > the western Reform Party? 

> > And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
> > label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???  

> > > I don't know about the "JEWS", but I understand that the Jews were in 
> > > fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then 
> >  >resolved with the government.  

> > You still did not respond to the above point made, namely why should the 
> > more than 98% of non-JEWS in Quebec have to obey the French label laws, 
> > while only the cursed JEWS are able somehow to avoid the laws of sovereign
> > Quebec? The Catholics and Christians of other sects MUST obey the laws, 
> > while the JEWS break the laws with impunity.  



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I agree with you, that perhaps a rope of hemp, for the execution of all
junkies would be appropriate.

Perhaps you should check with Changi Prison in Singapore, to determine
what rope is used there.

On 17 Dec 1996, Brian D Milner wrote:

> >>From: WAHRHEIT 
> >>In civilised nations, such as Malaysia and Singapore, junkies
> >>automatically get the DEATH PENALTY.
> >
> >>This eliminates a lot of garbage people,and they do not care whether you
> >>are American, Canadian or local - you all get the same stretch of hanging
> >>rope!!!
> 
> Over here in the UK, back when we had hanging, Dukes and other nobility 
> were hanged using a silken rope. Everyone else had to make do with ... wait 
> for it ... a hempen rope. 
> 
> WAHRHEIT, you little shit, at least you agree with using Hemp for some of 
> its many industrial uses! 
> 
> -- 
> ==Brian Milner, The Computer Centre, Brunel University, West London, UK==
> 	"I know this ship like the back of my han" 
> ===== WWW == http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~ccusbdm/home.htm ====We The Freed==
> 
> 



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As far as I care, you and your ilk deserve the Singapore Rope Dance, at
the end thereof.

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Beau.. beau.. wrote:

> boyi
> 
> mr. bill.. you're an asshole.. sit down.. and smoke a bowl..
> it'll help you relax your tight ass...
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Tue Dec 17 20:03:12 PST 1996
Article: 99948 of can.general
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: FORGERY re Grosvenor!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:27:22 -0500
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This is a COMPLETE FORGERY, and has been investigated by the appropriate
authorities, who have confirmed it as such.

Police are being asked to prosecute those involved in its origin, and also
the distribution.

You have been warned!!!

On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Brad Whitcomb wrote:

> Graymalkin wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Tim Nye wrote:
> > 
> > > Lookee what the computer just spit out:
> > >
> > 
> >       From: WAHRHEIT 
> >       Newsgroups: alt.personals.ads
> >       Subject: Lonely SWM seeks ANYONE
> >       Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:20:27 GMT
> > 
> >       I am a SWM living alone in the big city.  I dont have many friends 
> >       since i moved here.  Please write me and we can talk. If you are a 
> >       guy, thats ok, i like to talk with anyone. I would also like to meet 
> >       any nice women who want to talk to a shy but nice fellow.  Thanks!  
> >       email me at
> > 
> >       WAHRHEIT 
> > 
> > > But Mr. Grosvenor, I thought you had lots of friends down at the Liquor
> > > Barn...
> >         Yeah, and what about Willie's Barbie Dolls, and his other
> > personalities?  I thought they would keep him company, even though he has
> > a wife.
> 
> Well, look at what I found...
> 
> Subject:      SWM submissive seeks male or female DOM
> From:         WAHRHEIT 
> Date:         1996/12/16
> Message-Id:   <32b52fcc.8698087@news.one.net>
> Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server
> Reply-To:     WAHRHEIT 
> Newsgroups:   alt.personals.bondage
> 
> 
> SWM sub seeks Male or Female masters to put me in my place because ive
> been VERY
> mischevious!  Please punish me at once!  Thank you.
> 
> WAHRHEIT 
> 
> From the pathetic to the bizarre.
> 
> Well, maybe Willy is feeling sorry for the way he has acted in the past
> and now wants to be disciplined.
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Wed Dec 18 08:19:22 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Is Greg Bobkiewicz another gutless faggot?
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Have you the guts to give your correct address, so that you can be sued,
or are you just another gutless faggot?

On 17 Dec 1996, Greg Bobkiewicz wrote:

> toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> :   How about a subscription to a gay "skin" magazine, delivered monthly
> :   to his door? 
> : 
> :   Seeing his opinions in his "faggots - Die,Die,Die!" articles,  I'm sure
> :   old grossy would just swoon over all those nude guys and their crown
> :   jewels. :-)  
> 	He secretly just might like that...you know, the suggestions that
> he may be a self-loathing closet homosexual and all.
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Thu Dec 19 06:22:41 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Tickle Me Elmo for sale
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:51:08 -0500
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It seems that the damn communists just do not appreciate the free
enterprise system.

If one can buy and sell at a profit, the pinkos object. Mind you, they are
the first in line at the trough for free whatever, as long as some poor
hard worker has to pay for their desires.

Let anyone make a profit, whether by selling the stupid elmo dolls or
whatever. Profit is not a filthy 4 letter word.

If people are stupid enough to pay a premium, then make a profit while
possible.

On 19 Dec 1996, colin newell wrote:

> GFP (aab052@thezone.net) wrote:
> : For Sale:
> : 
> : one Tickle Me Elmo to the highest bidder
> : 
> : St. John's, Newfoundland
> : (709) 
> 
> Lemme guess.. You bought it for your child originally
> but the glint of gold caught your eye..
> 
> People like you disgust me..
> -- 
> Robert Colin Newell--Victoria--BC Canada
> http://www.octonet.com/~coffee
> The Coffee Expert's Web Page and Caffeine Database
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 20 11:02:41 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Even in the Netherlands, which used to be known as Sodom & Gommorrah, the
Police there are finally starting to prosecute the drug traffickers.

Unfortunately, they are not yet at the sensible stage of prosecution as in
Malaysia and Singapore.

In the Netherlands, because of all the drugs and the junkies there, it is
no longer safe on the streets in the daytime, let alone at night. In other
words, where drugs are permitted in any form, crime increases, making such
locations unsafe.

I support the strictest policies of the legal system, in counteracting all
the criminals engaged in drugs.

The only good junkie, is an executed one.

Support your state in having Singapore style justice.



On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Barry Zandstra wrote:
>  W> In civilised nations, such as Malaysia and Singapore, junkies
>  W> automatically get the DEATH PENALTY.

>  W> This eliminates a lot of garbage people, and they do not care whether
>  W> you are American, Canadian or local - you all get the same stretch of
>  W> hanging rope!!!

>  W> A good way to clean up the streets of the criminal element.

> Well then why don't you move to Singapore and shut up? BTW, don't take
> any pornography with you, because porn is illegal in Singapore (Cosmo is
> considered pornography in Singapore). And remember to throw away any
> chewing gum before you go there, because that's illegal too. In fact,
> EVERYTHING IS ILLEGAL IN SINGAPORE!!! Except of course use of excessive
> force by law-enforcement agencies. Oh, BTW, if you stay in your home,
> you won't receive corporal punishment in Singapore. Isn't that nice?



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sun Dec 22 11:41:56 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: PARACHUTE FS or will Trade
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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..
      
Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.
      
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???
  
  
 
 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Mon Dec 23 12:08:50 PST 1996
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Considering the strong and unhealthy effect of JEWISH CONTROL in Quebec,
why don't you both discuss THIs problem?

Why not discuss the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in Quebec, when the
BRONFMAN JEWS illegally moved more than 2.2 BILLION dollars, without
paying the Income Taxes to Quebec?

Why not discuss the Galganov situation, where the former member of the
JDL, a Jewish terrorist group, is illegally disobeying the proper laws of
Quebec?

Why no comment about JEWS breaking the French language label laws on their
imported packaged foods at Easter, while normal Quebecers must obey the
label laws?


Just thought you in Quebec may wish to comment as to who REALLY controls
Quebec!!!!

On 23 Dec 1996, Wes Warner wrote:

> In message <01bbf080$d12a21a0$eecbaec7@dm> - "Denis Marcoux"
> 23 Dec 1996 03:24:43 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>Wes Warner, would you be Wahrheit?
> :>If not, then why don't you take care of the racists in your own house
> :>before pointing to me?
> 
> *** His racism was castrated with much blood in WW2.
>     He is just an old left over eunuch, mouthing
>     the only tune he knows, not yet dead.
> 
>     While it was going strong his racism had lots
>     of self respecting upright middle class
>     followers - who saw nothing wrong with it.
> 
>     Your racism is of a slightly new kind, not as
>     obvious as the old, like any infection it takes time
>     for people to build up antibodies.  It still has
>     lots of self respecting upright middle class
>     followers - who see nothing wrong with it.
> 
> 
>     It was you who wrote:
> 
>      "I don't want to see English Signs in Montreal."
> 
>     This means you want the English minority to
>     disappear from your sight.  This is the most
>     likely meaning of your words.  You could achieve
>     the result you say by you going blind, or leaving
>     Montreal never to return -- but somehow
>     I doubt that is what he had in mind for yourself.
> 
> 
>     In the spirit of Christmas, here is a compromise
>     position for you:
> 
>     "I'm willing to see English on signs as long as
>      French is predominant."
> 
>     Try saying that over and over as the first stage
>     of your therapy.  Best do it in front of a mirror.
> 
> :>Because either you are one yourself and hiding behind your false
> :>accusations, or you are simply an hypocrit. Can you give me another
> :>alternative explaining you behavior?
> 
>     Hey, I'm saying what I believe, not hiding.
>     My behaviour is a reaction to yours.
> 
> 
>     Wes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Roy_Langston@mindlink.bc.ca (Roy Langston) wrote:

>In article <58cvkd$stb@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Garry
> wrote:
>
>> >>Yes, and see how well it worked.  Because Japan did not go communist, it
>> >>grew into one of the richest economies in the world. 
>> >
>> >I see.   then the way to have a vibrant economy is to have other than
>> >a communist political/economic system.  I suppose that means that
>> >the People's Republic is *not* one of the fastest growing economies in
>> >the world.
>> >
>> >Beijing must have a great ad agency!
>> >
>> 
>>      China's doing so well BECAUSE they're PRIVATIZING their economy! 
>> They are become capitalist, encouraging private ownership, and investment 
>> in their huge labor supply. THAT is why they have the fastest growing 
>> economy.
>
>True.  China is now more capitalist (in most of the ways that matter) than
>Canada and many other industrialized countries.  I know ambitious
>immigrants from mainland China who say it is too hard to make money here,
>so they are going back to China (retaining Canadian citizenship, if
>possible -- just in case)!
>
Untrue. If it is "hard" to make money here, its more to do with the 
willingness of these immigrants to obey the law and conduct businness 
in an honest and ethical manner. Its great to do business in a country 
with no environmental standards, no labour standards and with bribary and
corruption to smooth over other problems. Canadians don't want that 
sort of "friendly" business environment. And its a fact that the bulk
of the people in China (and elsewhere in the far east) don't want it 
either. Unfortunately, our immigration policies encourage the scum that
floats to the top to come here for a safe haven if they are ever called to 
account for their past activities.


From Wahrheit@cris.com Wed Dec 25 16:13:40 PST 1996
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The only good junkie, whether for marijuana or stronger drigs, is one
doing the Singapore Swing, at the end of the hempen rope!!!

Singapore and malaysia believe that the only good junkie is an executed
one.

Ask your legislator to pass for a law similar to the one in Malaysia,
where possession of drugs carries an automatic death penalty.

This helps to make the streets safer at night, and gets rid of some of the
human garbage.



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Subject: GREAT PLAINS SOFTWARE
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Have set of Great Plains Accounting Software,factory sealed ,complete with
all modules - worth around $20,000.00

Wish to TRADE for something else, I can use.
 
Offers invited for serious trades, such as complete high power computer,
stamp collections, gold/silver coins, or????



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Actually, according to both Jewish and German records, many of them,
including Field Marshall Milch, were in HITLER'S ARMY!!!

If many were in the German Army, and the Krema at Auschwitz were built by
the Polish Jews in 1949, HOW MUCH OF THE HOLOHOAX IS TRUE???



Could it be, as many have claimed, that the Holohoax is but an excuse for
JEW TO EXTORT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FROM non-Jews???

On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Keith Morrison wrote:

> Chris Winkler wrote:
> 
> > The above statement didn't even come close to excusing the death of jews
> > during WWII. It merely stated a fact. Sure, the death of 72,000 people is
> > a terrible thing. But to promote a 3-6 million number for economic benefit
> > for eternity is the real crime.
> 
> So where did the other 4 926 000 (give or take) Jews go?  Poughkeepsie?
> 
> --
> Keith Morrison
> lonewolf@nbnet.nb.ca
> http://www.dmmw.com/lonewolf/keithm.html
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Wed Dec 25 21:10:35 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: ab.politics,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.quebec,ont.gen,ab.gen,bc.politics,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa.congress
Subject: Re: ALBERTA,USA Amen!!!
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Add a few more items to the list of eastern garbage unwanted in Oilberta:

No special rights for faggots;

No special rights for natives.They should pay taxes the same as normal
people.

Property rights to include the right to own and use firearms in protecting
self and property.

No more foreign aid - for any country. Let them work, the way we do.

No more subsidies on gas or oil, to support eastern Canadians.

More to come.

On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, horsefeathers wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 21:55:55 GMT, belotw@cuug.ab.ca (" L.May") wrote:
> 
> >> NO MORE LUCIEN BOUCHARD.
> >>NO MORE CBC.
> >>NO MORE WHEAT BOARD.
> >>NO MORE CRTC.
> >>NO MORE METRIC.
> >>NO MORE CANADA CUSTOMS.
> >>NO MOR G.S.T.
> >>NO MORE JEAN CHAREST.
> >>NO MORE LIBERALS.
> > Think with all this gone ALBERTA will be better off. 
> >
> 
> 
> Amen,
> 
> Somebody actually had the guts to say this, isn't this what we all
> want in the first place. Thank God , just think what this country
> would be like without the above mentioned, add one more, no more CBC
> TV/Radio we don't want to call our own....
> 
> We can do with out Roger/Shaw cable also, just think the freedom of
> having a 18 inch satellite dish, with choices of programming....
> 
> kewl article L. May 
> 
> post more some good stuff..
> 
> "horsefeathers"
> 
> 
> p.s. Canada is the only country in the world that throws farmers in
> jail for making their own choices...
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 27 11:37:55 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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More importantly is the FACT that the KGB's predecessor was established to
help the Communist Party, by a JEW Dzerzhinski.

Dzerzhinski was used by Stalin to perform the HOLOCAUST on the UKRAINE in
1933, where they starved to death more than 10 million civilians, just
because the reidents of the Ukraine did not want to support either the
damn JEWS, or the communists.

And, has everyone already forgotten the Jewish Communist massacre by the
Soviets called the KATYN MASSACRE??



From wahrheit@concentric.net Fri Dec 27 12:21:44 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Subject: COMPUTER MOTHERBOARD WANTED
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High Performance Motherboard wanted, but only in TRADE for other items I
have.

Looking to upgrade, so need:
P166 or better, with at least 20 MB RAM on board
plus  top quality video card

Have many expensive items to trade for what I need.

Please note that I am in northern Canada, so am not interested in
sending items unless serious deal.


From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 27 12:21:45 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: FREENET FOLDS MONTREAL - EDMONTON FOLLOWING?
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Canadian Press report today about the folding of Montreal Freenet
Libertel, after receiving $425,000.00 taxpayer money!!!!

Edmonton Freenet, which received $200,000 of taxpayer money, has admitted
losing more than 50% of the membership since October 1995 - loss of 3401
>from  6,700 paid members.

Since it can be shown that the $200,000 from the taxpayers went basically
to pay for 2 contract employees, one must wonder how much longer will
Edmonton Freenet exist?

Particularly now that the media, police, and other regulatory agencies are
checking into irregularities??

How soon will Edmonton Freenet follow Montreal's Freenet into oblivion?



From Wahrheit@cris.com Fri Dec 27 12:21:46 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Re: Thank You, William Grosvenor!
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You mean you use infected toiletr paper to wipe your face??

On 27 Dec 1996 moonlite@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> WAHRHEIT (Wahrheit@cris.com) wrote:
> [blah, blah, blah]
> : Since it can be shown that the $200,000 from the taxpayers went basically
> : to pay for 2 contract employees, one must wonder how much longer will
> : Edmonton Freenet exist?
> 
> : Particularly now that the media, police, and other regulatory agencies are
> : checking into irregularities??
> 	William Grossweiner, I just want to say thank you.  Thank you for
> providing decorations for my toilet paper...everytime I wipe and flush, I
> always think of you.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ANY SPAMMERS THAT SEND ME UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS WILL HAVE AN ANCIENT
> CHINESE DEATH CURSE PLACED UPON THEIR HEADS!
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 28 10:13:28 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: Re: FREENET FOLDS MONTREAL - EDMONTON FOLLOWING?
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Had you bothered to attend the AGM, and the so-called town hall meeting,
you would have heard Keith Gross ADMIT THAT HE LIES!!!


He was forced to admit that he includes those who DID NOT RENEW THEIR
MEMBERSHIPS, when he gave out the false membership figures!!!


If he lies about this, one must wonder, what else in the finances is he
lying about???


The facts and figures of lost members came from the mouth of Gauleiter
Gross, with witnesses present.

You still have not commented as to why $200,000 of taxpayer money should
go to a BUSINESS??

You still have not commented why the $200,000 intended to create 20 new
jobs, should go to 2 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES instead???





On 28 Dec 1996 mariano@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> WAHRHEIT (Wahrheit@cris.com)  Belicka on CHED this morning, read the paper and then wrote:
> : Canadian Press report today about the folding of Montreal Freenet
> : Libertel, after receiving $425,000.00 taxpayer money!!!!
> 
> However HOW ABOUT GIVING THE REST OF THE STORY????
> 
> The promised money came too late to do any good.  The Montreal Freenet's
> lungs were full of water and then the PQ gov't threw them a life jacket.
> Too little too late.
> 
> : Edmonton Freenet, which received $200,000 of taxpayer money, has admitted
> : losing more than 50% of the membership since October 1995 - loss of 3401
> : from 6,700 paid members.
> 
> The membership sits at about 12,000 hmmm... Even ex CGA's could figure out
> that is a 100% INCREASE!
> 
> : Since it can be shown that the $200,000 from the taxpayers went basically
> : to pay for 2 contract employees, one must wonder how much longer will
> : Edmonton Freenet exist?
> 
> I see and the equipment the Freenet is running on is basically a figment
> of your imagination??
> 
> : Particularly now that the media, police, and other regulatory agencies are
> : checking into irregularities??
> 
> : How soon will Edmonton Freenet follow Montreal's Freenet into oblivion?
> 
> Perhaps your time would be better spent standing in line for the cheap
> booze at Stooper Store (for your clients of course).
> 
> --
>  ###########################################################################
>  # MARIANO DE SANTIS		mariano@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca             #
>  # Edmonton, Alberta Canada	                                           #
> #############################################################################
> 
> A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign
> of weakness and maladay.
> 			Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 28 10:13:29 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general,edm.general,ab.general
Subject: CROOKED GENERAL CANNED - Why not Prosecuted???
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The media report that the deputy chief of defence staff, Lt.Gen.Armand Roy
gets fired and ordered to repay $70,000 to $80,000 he had swindled from
the taxpayers.

The media also report, that depsite this crime, HE WILL NOT BE CHARGED, OR
CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED!!

To add insult to injury, he still gets to keep his pension!!!

In the book TARNISHED BRASS, was exposed the situation of a similar fraud
by another General, Gary King, now in Edmonton. King had cost taxpayers
many millions of dollars.

Again, instead of jailing such criminals, the military also allowed the
miscreant to get a reprimand.

Again, the criminal King gets to keep his big pension.


Will no one in government have the guts to prosecute these high placed
criminals, or perhaps remove them from this earth, permanently???

It seems there is one law for rich criminals, and another for the normal
people..

Justice seems to be not only blind, but stupid.

PROSECUTE BOTH ROY AND KING, AND JAIL THEM FOR A LONG TIME, AT HARD
LABOUR, TO REPAY TO THE TAXPAYERS ALL THEY HAVE COST.



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 28 10:41:03 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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When Alberta finally leaves eastern canada, then you will be invited to
"resettle" in the east. Subhumans will not be welcome here.

On 27 Dec 1996, D. Rodney Smelser wrote:

> Well, Wahrheit, or whatever your real name is, I would like to exclude 
> bigotted assholes like you from Canada.  Unfortunately, that isn't 
> possible. 
> 
> 
> I am just wondering, are you a Ralph Klein supporter, by any chance?
> 
> 
> Rod
> 
> 
> 
> WAHRHEIT  wrote:
> >Add a few more items to the list of eastern garbage unwanted in Oilberta:
> >
> >No special rights for faggots;
> >
> >No special rights for natives.They should pay taxes the same as normal
> >people.
> >
> >Property rights to include the right to own and use firearms in protecting
> >self and property.
> >
> >No more foreign aid - for any country. Let them work, the way we do.
> >
> >No more subsidies on gas or oil, to support eastern Canadians.
> >
> >More to come.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 28 10:41:04 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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I agree that a new political party is needed.

I followed your advice, and went to your WEBSITE
at:http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~intphase.


Your party platform is not strong enough, particularly regarding
undesirables such as diseased faggots, for example!!!!

On 28 Dec 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> : WAHRHEIT wrote:
> : > 
> : > When Alberta finally leaves eastern canada, then you will be invited to
> : > "resettle" in the east. Subhumans will not be welcome here.
> 
> 
> There certainly is a lot of scum in government wahrheit, but the solution
> is not to surrender to the Americans.  The solution is to remove criminals
> and assorted parasites from all layers of government.  Canada is a weak,
> divided nation with little or no leadership.  We need a new party in this
> country, not a puppet of the U.S.  
> 
> 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sat Dec 28 10:41:05 PST 1996
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Have you forgotten that after the war, members of the NSPartei were
WELCOMED as immigrants to Canada??

On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, David Reilley wrote:

> Herr Gruber, aka WAHRHEIT, wrote:
> > 
> > When Alberta finally leaves eastern canada, then you will be invited to
> > "resettle" in the east. Subhumans will not be welcome here.
> 
> I wonder what Gruber put on his Canadian immigration form when they
> asked whether he had a Nazi past?
> 
> 



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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: GREAT PLAINS SOFTWARE(Accounting for Business)
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Have set of Great Plains Accounting Software,factory sealed ,complete with
all modules - worth around $20,000.00
 
Wish to TRADE for something else, I can use.
  
Offers invited for serious trades, such as complete high power computer,
stamp collections, gold/silver coins, or????
 
 



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I maintain that when one is a criminal general, one should go directly to
prison, where one can WORK OFF the indebtedness to society.

This should apply even to ex-general GARY KING of Deadmonton Airports, as
well as General Roy.

For both of them, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ENTITLED TO THEIR TAXPAYER-PAID
PENSIONS, as part of their punishment.


Why should high ranking, rank, criminals be allowed to scoff at the
laws.They are no better than any ordinary embezzler!!!



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sun Dec 29 13:52:43 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: GREAT PLAINS SOFTWARE(Accounting for Business)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:27:17 -0500
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Have set of Great Plains Accounting Software,factory sealed ,complete with
all modules - worth around $20,000.00
 
Wish to TRADE for something else, I can use.
  
Offers invited for serious trades, such as complete high power computer,
stamp collections, gold/silver coins, or????
 
 



From Wahrheit@cris.com Sun Dec 29 13:52:44 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, RM wrote:

> I find it funny! I don't do drugs, Nor do I drink, and yet I have no
> problems dealing with life, or having fun! I have a lot of friends
> around and we seem to get along without the use of drugs! I guess that
> blows your theory all to hell!

You are completely correct.

However, since so many criminals in both high and low places engage in
illegal drug use, let us do as in Singapore. Let all the junkies do the
Singapore Swing - at the end of the hangman's rope!!!



From Wahrheit@cris.com Tue Dec 31 13:31:01 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: PARACHUTE FS or will Trade
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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..
       
Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.
       
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???



From Wahrheit@cris.com Tue Dec 31 13:33:27 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT 
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Subject: FS or SWAP - Mailing List of Professionals
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Have mailing list of 1600 professionals living in western Canada, complete
names,addresses,businesses,phone numbers,etc.
    
Will trade all for something useful - stamp collections,guns,coins, or
what offers?
   
Serious proposals only will get reply.
    
This would be ideal for an insurance salesman, investments dealer, or
similar, who wants to contact people who control the money.
  
   
> 
> 
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