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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  2 15:24:33 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: New game!
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I call it "Twat or not".  It's easy and fun!  You just take any random
name, and append the term "twat" -- or "not" -- to it.  As an example:

Crazy Jeannie:  twat

Joel Rosenberg:  twat

Ken McVay (because I KNOW he'll archive this):  twat

Rev. Ron:  not

Les Griswold:  not

See?  Easy, and fun!

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  2 22:43:45 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Andy Walton:  twat
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip - nothing of importance, so I deleted it.)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 08:12:48 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: What would white nationalists do if black nationalists 'ethnicly clensed' them from an area which was to be a black state
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> What would white nationalists do if black nationalists kicked
> them out of an area which the black nationalists wanted to
> be a black state?

Fight back, which is what WHITE MEN do when niggers get uppity.

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 08:12:49 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: 'Aryans' are not white
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> Surely Aryans aren't all white.
> 
> After all, it was Aryans which invaded and settled India several millenia ago
> and it was their religion which became the basis on modern
> Hinduism.
> 
> Therefore, aren't Indians as 'Aryan' as whites.

No.  The Aryans in India interbred with the Dravidians there, and are
about as "Aryan" today as O.J. Simpson.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 08:12:49 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Would white nationalists object to a Native American state?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> Would white nationalists object to a Native American state?

Yup.
 
> If whites want their own state, then why shouldn't Native Americans
> have theirs?

A question like this deserves a well-thought out answer:  just because.
 
> After all, the Native Americans were in the US first and it was
> white settlers who took all the land away from them.

Wrong, buddy-boy.  The "Native Americans" were NOT in the U.S. first. 
They were in the territory that the WHITE MAN DEVELOPED into the U.S., but
would have stayed nomadic wandering grounds for all eternity under the
indians.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 18:27:59 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Blacks in Africa Cut off Women's Clitorises!
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Christian Tice (cst@netcom.com) writes:
> C. Barnes (barnes) wrote:

(I'm not sure who wrote what, but I do know that James White wrote the
"Tarzan" B.S.)

> : >>For YOUR information this practice is wide spread. It is estimated over  
> : >>10 million women have had this done to them... 
> : >> 
> : >>I read a research book on the topic in graduate school and was shocked at 
> : >>just how common a practice this is. It is done to virtually every female  
> : >>in the Sudan and Ethiopia. 
> : >  
> : >Another Tarzan move fan who is posing as an expert on Africa.  What you are
> : >saying is pure unadulterated bullshit.  If you want to learn about Africa
> : >go to Africa.  You should be ashamed of yourself for promulgating this
> : >bullshit. 
> : > 
> Hey asshole. First of all, I never held myself out to be "an expert on 
> Africa". Second of all, what I said came from a research book done by a 
> woman who spent over 10 years in the Sudan researching the subject. So 
> don't tell me it's "unadulterated bullshit" you moron. I don't have to go 
> to Africa to learn about Africa. And you should be ashamed of yourself 
> for being such an idiot.

That's James White for you.  He is CONVINCED that he knows everything
about everything, and any mention of anything that he's uncomfortable
with, even if it's reality, gets his dander up.  The FACT of
clitorectomies really gets up his nose, because it can (and does)
disprove his fantasies of "we are the world", so he just tries to deny
their existance and belittle anyone who notices it.  

The emporer's new clothes.

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 23:34:20 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Our relative numbers (was: Movin' jews!)
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william c anderson, twat, (libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Nice try to inflate your numbers there, but unfortunately, people know
> : bullshit when they see it.  This is class-A B.S., Felix.  HOW do you get
> : the conclusion that anyone with savings in the bank could be declared a
> : "filthy jewish usurer"?  (You don't, but you're so scared of being alone,
> : that you'll say any damn fool thing to get allies)
> 
> That would be a real good explanation, Lester--except that the vast
> majority of people in the world are, actively or passively, Harry's
> allies.  Your allies, on the other hand, consist of a handful of
> inbred halfwits in broken-down trailers, two or three eccentric 
> underachievers, and a crew of people who believe radiation from 
> Nazi flying saucers is affecting their virility. Harry doesn't 
> need to inflate his numbers, and you can't plausibly do so.  Sorry.

So, if we're such a pathetic bunch, why do you guys spend so much time
chasing us down and trying (and failing miserably) to prove your
intellectual superiority?  Your own actions put the lie to your words.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 23:34:20 PST 1996
Article: 18717 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> Just answer these two related questions, Alex:  
>> 
>> 1)  Could we (Whites) survive without the jews?
> 
> As a non-Aryan white yes.

What the HELL are you talking about?
 
>> 2)  Could the jews survive without us?
> 
> Yes. But some of them couldn't survive without hate; there is a candid
> admission of this is a recent Jewish Chronicle. The mistake you are making 
> is lumping together the Stuermer-like Mr Edeiken and his fellow travellers in
> the ADL with ordinary run of the mill Jews.

No, if anyone's making the mistake, it's you, with your "good jews/bad
jews" game.  There may indeed be jews who are not harmful to our culture,
but they are by FAR in the minority.

>> Alex, I can hardly credit you with having written this.  In your world,
>> there are obviously only three types of people:  jews, their lackeys, and you.
> 
> The Turner Diaries is the sort of book an ADL agent provocateur would write;
> in the words of Sefton Delmer: "The very best 'black' operation is to spit in
> a man's soup and cry Heil Hitler!"

I've met the author; have you?
 
> As someone who has published a documented expose of a Zionist-inspired agent
> provocateur I know what I'm talking about. Also whatever certain creeps have
> posted about me in this group I am neither a Nazi or an anti-Semite.

Alex, I've never denied that there are Zionist-inspired agents provocateur, but 
what I'm saying is, not every White Nationalist is an ADL mole.  You owe Milton 
a big apology for the sheer stupidity of your statement.  (in case you've 
forgotten, that's the one where you asked him if he worked for the ADL because 
he wasn't ready to jump up and down and criticize _The Turner Diaries_)

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan  3 23:34:21 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Bigots at odds (was: ANOTHER whopper for you exterminationists)
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lackey@lickspittle.com (ZOG Lackey #251) writes:
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> 
> : Ever notice how Jews like to hide when the going gets tough and then,
> : when times are good for 'em they want to stand proud of the rabble?
> : I'll give you an example. All during the thirties, when Germany 
> : threatened to spread Nazi-ism all over Europe and America, Jewish
> : doctors started pushing circumcision for all males. If you were born
> : in a hospital in the U.S.A. after about 1934, you were circumcised.
> : Throughout the 40's, 50's, 60's 70's and 80's when a bunch of guys 
> : were showering in the locker room, or in the barracks, you couldn't
> : tell the Jew-boy from the goy-boy - they were hiding. 
> : But now that any organized threat against them is gone, and now 
> : that they are pretty much in control, the Jewish doctors are telling
> : goyishe parents NOT to circumcise their male babies. Now, only Jew
> : boys will be circumcised and they can wear it as a badge proudly once
> : more.
> 
> : George Graves
> 
> To:  Rabbi Bobbitstein, Chief, ZOG Goywatch Division (headjew@zog.gov)
> From: Loyal ZOG Lackey #251 (kfilan@netcom.com)
> 
> 	It is with deep regret that I inform you that Mr. Graves has 
> "spilled the beans" on one of our most deeply cherished secrets ... the 
> "circumcision scam."  Now he and his fellow Aryan seekers after truth 
> know about our "cruellest cut" to White Manhood.  Expect serious 
> repercussions from those who, thanks to our ZOG operatives, had the hoods 
> removed from their heads at an early age.
> 
> 	At the risk of sounding like I'm saying, "I told you so" -- it 
> was your Uncle Saul, I believe, who said, "Nose jobs, schmose jobs... get 
> a load of _this_ idea and before you know it we'll be members at every 
> country club in America!"  
> 
> 	(Of course, if you ask me, you'd have sent the Mossad after 
> Griswold when he leaked to the world that Tonya Harding is really 
> black...)

This is just an example of how people put words in my mouth...

What I actually said was, that Tonya Harding wasn't White, and I implied
that she was jewish.  Of course, that makes no impression on these sorts. 

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:30:00 PST 1996
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william c anderson, twat, (libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Nice try to inflate your numbers there, but unfortunately, people know
> : bullshit when they see it.  This is class-A B.S., Felix.  HOW do you get
> : the conclusion that anyone with savings in the bank could be declared a
> : "filthy jewish usurer"?  (You don't, but you're so scared of being alone,
> : that you'll say any damn fool thing to get allies)
> 
> That would be a real good explanation, Lester--except that the vast
> majority of people in the world are, actively or passively, Harry's
> allies.  Your allies, on the other hand, consist of a handful of
> inbred halfwits in broken-down trailers, two or three eccentric 
> underachievers, and a crew of people who believe radiation from 
> Nazi flying saucers is affecting their virility. Harry doesn't 
> need to inflate his numbers, and you can't plausibly do so.  Sorry.

So, if we're such a pathetic bunch, why do you guys spend so much time
chasing us down and trying (and failing miserably) to prove your
intellectual superiority?  Your own actions put the lie to your words.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:30:02 PST 1996
Article: 18717 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> Just answer these two related questions, Alex:  
>> 
>> 1)  Could we (Whites) survive without the jews?
> 
> As a non-Aryan white yes.

What the HELL are you talking about?
 
>> 2)  Could the jews survive without us?
> 
> Yes. But some of them couldn't survive without hate; there is a candid
> admission of this is a recent Jewish Chronicle. The mistake you are making 
> is lumping together the Stuermer-like Mr Edeiken and his fellow travellers in
> the ADL with ordinary run of the mill Jews.

No, if anyone's making the mistake, it's you, with your "good jews/bad
jews" game.  There may indeed be jews who are not harmful to our culture,
but they are by FAR in the minority.

>> Alex, I can hardly credit you with having written this.  In your world,
>> there are obviously only three types of people:  jews, their lackeys, and you.
> 
> The Turner Diaries is the sort of book an ADL agent provocateur would write;
> in the words of Sefton Delmer: "The very best 'black' operation is to spit in
> a man's soup and cry Heil Hitler!"

I've met the author; have you?
 
> As someone who has published a documented expose of a Zionist-inspired agent
> provocateur I know what I'm talking about. Also whatever certain creeps have
> posted about me in this group I am neither a Nazi or an anti-Semite.

Alex, I've never denied that there are Zionist-inspired agents provocateur, but 
what I'm saying is, not every White Nationalist is an ADL mole.  You owe Milton 
a big apology for the sheer stupidity of your statement.  (in case you've 
forgotten, that's the one where you asked him if he worked for the ADL because 
he wasn't ready to jump up and down and criticize _The Turner Diaries_)

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:30:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Bigots at odds (was: ANOTHER whopper for you exterminationists)
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lackey@lickspittle.com (ZOG Lackey #251) writes:
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> 
> : Ever notice how Jews like to hide when the going gets tough and then,
> : when times are good for 'em they want to stand proud of the rabble?
> : I'll give you an example. All during the thirties, when Germany 
> : threatened to spread Nazi-ism all over Europe and America, Jewish
> : doctors started pushing circumcision for all males. If you were born
> : in a hospital in the U.S.A. after about 1934, you were circumcised.
> : Throughout the 40's, 50's, 60's 70's and 80's when a bunch of guys 
> : were showering in the locker room, or in the barracks, you couldn't
> : tell the Jew-boy from the goy-boy - they were hiding. 
> : But now that any organized threat against them is gone, and now 
> : that they are pretty much in control, the Jewish doctors are telling
> : goyishe parents NOT to circumcise their male babies. Now, only Jew
> : boys will be circumcised and they can wear it as a badge proudly once
> : more.
> 
> : George Graves
> 
> To:  Rabbi Bobbitstein, Chief, ZOG Goywatch Division (headjew@zog.gov)
> From: Loyal ZOG Lackey #251 (kfilan@netcom.com)
> 
> 	It is with deep regret that I inform you that Mr. Graves has 
> "spilled the beans" on one of our most deeply cherished secrets ... the 
> "circumcision scam."  Now he and his fellow Aryan seekers after truth 
> know about our "cruellest cut" to White Manhood.  Expect serious 
> repercussions from those who, thanks to our ZOG operatives, had the hoods 
> removed from their heads at an early age.
> 
> 	At the risk of sounding like I'm saying, "I told you so" -- it 
> was your Uncle Saul, I believe, who said, "Nose jobs, schmose jobs... get 
> a load of _this_ idea and before you know it we'll be members at every 
> country club in America!"  
> 
> 	(Of course, if you ask me, you'd have sent the Mossad after 
> Griswold when he leaked to the world that Tonya Harding is really 
> black...)

This is just an example of how people put words in my mouth...

What I actually said was, that Tonya Harding wasn't White, and I implied
that she was jewish.  Of course, that makes no impression on these sorts. 

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:30:04 PST 1996
Article: 18734 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Movin' jews! (was: It sure as hell WASN'T!)
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Harry "Cool" Katz (hkatz@earth.usa.net) writes:
> Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) wrote:
> 
> 	[The Nazis] cleaned out all the gold they could lay their
> 	filthy hands on,
> 
> In article ,
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) whines:
> 
> 	... that had formerly been in the hands of filthy
> 	jewish usurers.
> 
> For those non-Jews who think they can watch from the sidelines and
> survive a neo-Nazi takeover by not making waves, consider
> Mr. Griswold's assertion above.
> 
> If Mr. Griswold ever comes to power, anybody with any savings in the
> bank can be declared a "filthy Jewish usurer" and lose their life's
> savings, as well as their life.

Nice try to inflate your numbers there, but unfortunately, people know
bullshit when they see it.  This is class-A B.S., Felix.  HOW do you get
the conclusion that anyone with savings in the bank could be declared a
"filthy jewish usurer"?  (You don't, but you're so scared of being alone,
that you'll say any damn fool thing to get allies)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:30:05 PST 1996
Article: 18735 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Introducing Tom Metzger
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Joel Rosenberg (joelr@winternet.com) writes:
> In article <4ce8od$is3@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> 
>>Since the Portland decision, Metzger's assets - including his home -
>>have been seized to help compensate the Seraw family. Although it is
>>unlikely that Metzger will ever fully pay his portion of the $12.5
>>million judgment, all subsequent revenues have been accounted for
>>through court supervision so that a substantial percentage of WAR's
>>profits have gone toward this penalty.
> 
> There's something neat about the whole idea of the boneheads 
> contributing to Metzger's organization and the money ending up going to the 
> Seraws.   Obviously, it would have been better if "Metger's Monkeys" hadn't 
> murdered the guy, given that that happened, it's just as well that it worked 
> out this way.

Oh, get off it.  You couldn't care less about Seraw being murdered.   This just 
gives you an opportunity to flog "Natsees".

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:37:59 PST 1996
Article: 13222 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Andy Walton:  twat
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
>> 
>> (snip - nothing of importance, so I deleted it.)
>> 
>> Les
> Now that I've stopped laughing, and wiped the tears from my eyes:
> 
> Les, Walton NEVER says anything important to say on any subject, but
> you have certainly hit upon a way to clear this NG of liberals. Just
> ignore them! They'll scream and hollar, and eventually, if we only
> respond to each other, they'll go away!
> Now back to Walton. Do you know of any way we can delete him? (in 
> a nice way, of course).  :)

Well, this IS a novel way to irritate the hell out of them.  Of course,
they'll stomp and scream about how they "don't care" that a "Natsee" has
called them a twat, but it will, and badly.  See, most liberals REALLY
CAN'T UNDERSTAND how stupid they look to ordinary people, how hare-brained
their "love-everybody-except-Whites" makes them look.  And when you try to
do them a favour and explain it to them, they get resentful!  I tell you,
there's just no appreciation in this world anymore for an honest man!

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 00:38:00 PST 1996
Article: 13223 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Why do racists shy away from jews?
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Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) writes:
> I hereby grant Les Griswold the award for hating jews more than me. Since
> I don't hate jews, I figure it is the least that I can do for him.

No, that's for sure.  You're the most shameless suck-up here, Frankie.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 01:04:27 PST 1996
Article: 69965 of alt.politics.correct
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Blacks in Africa Cut off Women's Clitorises!
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"Dr. Dubem Okafor" (okafor@kutztown.edu) writes:
> 
> You guys miss the point. To start with, you so overgeneralize that what 
> you say means little. Secondly you so globalize Africa as if it were a 
> monolithic, cultural formation: Africa is a vast continent comprising a 
> multiplicity of nationalities and cultural practices, with the result 
> that one practice observed among a group may make absolutely no sense to 
> members of another group, and yet you talk of anything "African" as a 
> generalizable phenomenon. Thirdly, the practice you describe happens to 
> have long become a fast fading memory in my part of Africa (I am an 
> African Professor), but your sweeping, dismissive gestures encompass my world. Your discussions are a 
> mere continuation of the undying eurocentric inferiorization of all other 
> worlds. Stop your globalizing nonsense, and, instead, look for ways of 
> removing the beams in your own cultural eyes.

Talking about clitorectomies, which STILL occur, is not "globalizing
nonsense".  Cliterectomies are a very real phenomenon, which can't be
dismissed by hurling implications of racism and neo-imperialism around. 
Get a grip, "Doctor".  

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 07:42:29 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: t certainly is an
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 (hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio) writes:
>>   hkatz@earth.usa.net (Harry Katz) writes:
>>  In article ,
>>  Mark Van Alstine (mvanalst@rbi.com) tells Les Griswold off:
> 
> (snip)
> 
>>  Not at all!  It shows that Mr. Griswold has not read any books
>>  besides _The Turner Diaries_ and _Mein Kampf._
>>  
>>  --
>>  Harry Katz
>>  
> 
> Read?  I thought Mr. Griswold's faithful Sylvia read everything to
> him... when she is not otherwise 'busy,' of course...
> 
> Harry W. Mazal OBE

Order of the British Empire... yeah, like there's a British Empire to even
commemorate anymore... Mr. Mazal, you got snookered into believing
something that just isn't true.  In light of the "Holocaust", are you sure
it wasn't by a passel of jews?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:17:45 PST 1996
Article: 10015 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Blacks in Africa Cut off Women's Clitorises!
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"Dr. Dubem Okafor" (okafor@kutztown.edu) writes:
> 
> You guys miss the point. To start with, you so overgeneralize that what 
> you say means little. Secondly you so globalize Africa as if it were a 
> monolithic, cultural formation: Africa is a vast continent comprising a 
> multiplicity of nationalities and cultural practices, with the result 
> that one practice observed among a group may make absolutely no sense to 
> members of another group, and yet you talk of anything "African" as a 
> generalizable phenomenon. Thirdly, the practice you describe happens to 
> have long become a fast fading memory in my part of Africa (I am an 
> African Professor), but your sweeping, dismissive gestures encompass my world. Your discussions are a 
> mere continuation of the undying eurocentric inferiorization of all other 
> worlds. Stop your globalizing nonsense, and, instead, look for ways of 
> removing the beams in your own cultural eyes.
 
Talking about clitorectomies, which STILL occur, is not "globalizing
nonsense".  Cliterectomies are a very real phenomenon, which can't be
dismissed by hurling implications of racism and neo-imperialism around. 
Get a grip, "Doctor".  
 
Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:17:46 PST 1996
Article: 10035 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: George Burdi: Hate for Money
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Andy Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> In article <4cefta$c6@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, eddiehtomb@aol.com
> (EddieHTOMB) wrote:
> 
>   :Here in NY we have minorities up the wazoo, but there ain't much racism,
>   :at least not from whites. THe blacks have their share tho
> 
> Thank you, Pollyanna. May I offer two words: Howard Beach.

Central Park.

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:17:47 PST 1996
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Subject: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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Michael Rosencrantz (rosie@interport.net) writes:
> etcom.com> <4cd69h$4dd@news-f.iadfw.net>:
> Distribution: 
> 
> Bootboy (bootboy@airmail.net) wrote:
> : leftskin@ix.netcom.com(Shannon Hammock ) wrote:
> : >
> : > In <4cais7$55i@news2.cts.com> wotan@cts.com (Wyatt Kaldenberg) writes: 
> : > 
> : > >Liberals are people who live in mostly White areas. The darker
> : > >your town gets. The less liberal you become. 
> 
> Well, what about a town such as New York City, which is very liberal and 
> chock full of minorities. In the city itself, the population is less than 
> half white.
> 
> Now where I used to live in Northern New England (Go Patriots), the 
> population is 99.99% white and very conservative. Care to explain this?

And why wouldn't they be?  I'd be conservative too, if I lived in a nice,
almost exclusively White, neighbourhood.  See, that's worth CONSERVING.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:28:21 PST 1996
Article: 13238 of alt.politics.white-power
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John Baglow:  twat (hi, John!)

evil "Foot-boy" Beavis:  twat

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:28:22 PST 1996
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Harry Katz:  twat

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:28:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Revoke Citizenship? What a joke!
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Fran Siegal (fhs@saturn.net) writes:
> Dear Mr. White,
> 
> So what if your gal pal is a lawyer. Evidently she is not an immigration
> lawyer, because she would know damn well that once someone has their
> citizenship it can only be revoked by an act of congress. 
> 
> And it has only been successfully done 3 times since WWII.
> 
> Now if that individual had a green card, deportation might be possible (as
> long as a felony was committed).
> 
> Your threats of revoking that person's citizenship reveal your lack of
> knowledge of our basic constitutional rights. Get with it and be more of
> an American! 
> 
> Sure you are angry, but your ignorant threats will get you nowhere. Free
> speech in the US allows pontificating on all sorts of matters:
> racism/whitepower included.
> 
> If your get your rocks off by censorship, then I suggest it is you who
> should be deported. Find a country more in-line with your authoritarian
> personality - like China, Burma or Singapore.
> 
> Fran

That's "James White" for you.  He doesn't really mean any of it -- he's
threatened to keep a dossier on me, and anyone else that displeases him. 
For a really good sample of his reality denial, you can check his posts
out on alt.discrimination, although, come to think of it, that's not
really necessary.  Reading just one of his messages is enough to
understand what a complete idiot he is.

Les  

> _______________ > 
> In article <4bs5sa$17r0@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Martin Fox  wrote:
> 
>  white@nyc.pipeline.com (James White) wrote:
> 
>> >On Dec 26, 1995 23:53:05 in article , 'Daren
>> >Brittell ' wrote: 
>  >>I'm not against American troops killing Reds at all.  I am against  
>> >>bringing non-Whites (via US armed forces) to White countries so that they 
>> >
>> >>can freely mix and rape Whites. 
>> >> 
>> >>That's why they integrated, they want to destroy the White race, not  
>> >>communism. 
>> > 
> 
> [James White whines:]
>  
>> In addition to being a traitor to the US you are truly a fool.  I am
>> seriously going to work to get your citizenship revoked.  My girlfriend who
>>is a lawyer says we can do it.  I am making a portfolio of your postings
>> and I intend to actively pursue getting your citizenship revoked.  In my
>> opinion you are a traitor and you deserve to be exiled to some place where
>> they accept traitors.  You do not deserve to continue to be an American. 
>> You go beyond the limits of free speech you are giving aid and comfort to
>> America's enemies.  You are defiling the graves of the Americans who died
>> ridding the world of Nazism.  For that alone you need to be expelled.  Just
>> count on one thing, I am going to personally do everything I can to to get
>> you expelled.




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:28:24 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: What's wrong with liberals (was: Andy Walton:  twat)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:

(snip)

>> Liberals ALWAYS pretend to like any given minority -- niggers, jews, or
>> fags, to name but a few.  To be perfectly blunt about it, liberals like
>> OTHER people to have to put up with their liberalism, but they want
>> nothing to do with it themselves.  Hypocrites.
> 
> So right, so right! Both of you are absolutely correct. To Robby and Raggedy,
> though, you'll have to add 'evil Beavis' the twit from Sweden who has 
> a black girlfriend whom he says he is going to marry.

Evil "Foot-boy" Beavis is just a pathetic little turd from Sweden, who
somehow thinks he's "proving" something by regaling us with his harrowing
stories of miscegenation.  All he's "proving", though, is what we already
know -- that liberals are Grade-A assholes.

Les





From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 08:28:25 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Harry Katz:  twat
 
> Harry Katz gets my vote for Pain-in-the-Ass-Jew-Twat of the Year!
> (and, a complete fool)

Well, I did suggest to CLOC that they open a new category for Harry, jew
without a clue, but I guess not.  Oh well, maybe next year.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 12:31:59 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lester Griswold worthy recipient of "Racist of Year" (was Re: Movin' Jews)
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 (ncrccjc@ibm.net), twat, writes:

(snip)

> Lester Griswold, a true and worthy recipient of this years "Racist of the 
> Year" award.

You're such a sweetie.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan  4 12:39:36 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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Michael Rosencrantz (rosie@interport.net) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Michael Rosencrantz (rosie@interport.net) writes:
> : > etcom.com> <4cd69h$4dd@news-f.iadfw.net>:
> : > Distribution: 
> : > 
> : > Now where I used to live in Northern New England (Go Patriots), the 
> : > population is 99.99% white and very conservative. Care to explain this?
> 
> : And why wouldn't they be?  I'd be conservative too, if I lived in a nice,
> : almost exclusively White, neighbourhood.  See, that's worth CONSERVING.
> 
> : Les
> 
> But race has never been a problem there, the conservatism does not stem 
> from some sort of save the white community bullshit. Very few minorities 
> live there. There was one black family in my town--the father was a 
> senior programmer at IBM and all the kids were geniuses.
> 
> A few summers ago, a bunch of WP skins got chased out of Staten Island 
> and moved up there and they were nearly beaten to death. I think you have 
> a different idea of conservatism than I do.

Perhaps.  To me, a conservative, generally, is someone who's too fat to
run, and too cowardly to fight.  All too often, after witnessing the
horror of multiracialism, they retreat into economic conservatism.

The WP skins that you mentioned being beaten nearly to death:  I wonder
how the people of your ex-community would have reacted to them if their
neighbourhood had been crawling with non-Whites, as all too many cities
now do.  The flood of non-Whites is starting to reach into the smaller
towns, too, so the next few years should be really interesting, as we see
a grwoing number of Whites try to compromise with the race issue.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan  5 14:42:17 PST 1996
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Michael Rosencrantz (rosie@interport.net) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Michael Rosencrantz (rosie@interport.net) writes:
> : > Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : > 
> : Then you're lying, or just plain stupid.  The race issue affects EVERYONE,
> : or it will.  Of course, since you're a jew, I don't expect you to face the
> : race issue honestly.
> 
> : What you SAID, although you may not realize it, is that race was not an
> : issue in this case ONLY because the community in question hadn't had any
> : experience with race.  I speculated that it might have been QUITE
> : different if your community had had a little experience with non-Whites.
> 
> First of all Les, you need to brush up on your german. Rosencrantz means 
> "wreath of roses" or "rosary," it is a very Catholic name. I, however, am 
> neither Catholic nor Jewish.

Gee, and I've NEVER heard of a jew name-changer!

> Your original point was that as a community has more interaction with other
> races, the community becomes more conservative. I gave two examples to the
> contrary.

And you can't count, either.  TWO examples?  Where?
 
> Now your saying the small Vt community's politics would be different if 
> other cultures were assimilated into the community. That would mean that 
> they would become more liberal, which is the exact opposite of what you 
> originally posted.

Other "cultures" don't assimilate, they take over and ruin things.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan  5 18:43:09 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Something to worry white racists
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article <30EB0AEE.3BF1@aimnet.com> gmgraves@aimnet.com "George Graves" writes:
> 
>> Caesar wrote:
>> > 
>> > Something to worry American white racists is that the US population
>> > is becoming steadily more non-white.
>> > 
>> > 75% of Americans are classified by the census department as white
>> > now. This is forcast to fall to just 50% of the population by
>> > the middle of the next century. Hispanics will be
>> > one quarter of the US population by 2050.
 
>> Not if we can help it! These things CAN be reversed, you know. There is
>> already a BIG movement in this country to put a moritorium on 
>> immigration. That'll do for a start.
> 
> What are you racists going to do about the higher black and Hispanic
> birthrate compared to whites?

It's amazing what will happen to a birthrate when the people doing the
spawning correctly perceive that they are _personae non grata_.  When we
put a moratorium on immigration, you can bet your bippy that there will be
more than a slight drop in the non-white spawning rate.

> Are you going to exterminate or castrate anyone who you don't think is white?

That will not be necessary, although it shows how you feebs like to rush
to assumptions.  No, we will simply institute a program of NEGATIVE
immigration, ie repatriation.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan  5 19:12:53 PST 1996
Article: 13381 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Evil Beavis:  twat (was: Andy Walton:  twat)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> R.C. Richards wrote:
>> 
>> George Graves  wrote:
>> 
>> >Well, Les, I always say that there are two types of people in the world:
>> >racists and liars. When I meet a multiculturalist, I always ask: 'Which
>> >are you?' It jams 'em up, because deep down inside they KNOW the real
>> >answer, but their brainwashing will never let them admit it. They are
>> >dishonest to themselves and to everyone about them. In short, they're a
>> >mess!
>> 
>> george has hit the nail on the head!  anybody ever notice how the libs
>> are real quick to make sure you know they ain't nigras.  whenever we
>> get a new lib on the group, that's the first thing the lib wants to
>> make sure we're clear on.  second, only like one or two libs have
>> admitted to race mixing--ie, having nigras over to their house--robby
>> cascardden and raggedy.  the rest of the libs have about as much
>> experience with nigras as a man on the moon.  i've always said that
>> deep down the libs don't like nigras any more than anybody else, but
>> they think it's politically correct to pretend like they do.
 
> I for one merely stated I am white because as soon as I made it clear that I 
> think your delusions about "supremacy" are idiotic, you automatically assumed 
> I had to be black.

Sure, sure...

And so what if we did?  If there's nothing WRONG with being a negro, why
are you so defensive about being called one?  After all, if race REALLY
DOES mean nothing, it should make no difference if you're a negro
anti-racist, or a white anti-racist, right?

> Furthermore, I don't think I would go trough the trouble to marry someone
> just to prove I'm politically correct.

And we think you would.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan  5 19:12:55 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Edgar Bronfman: "...dirty anti-Semitic dogs..."
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Orest Slepokura (slepokuo@cadvision.com) writes:
> During a speech delivered in Montreal on Sunday, May 7, 1989, to 1000
> delegates ay the triennial assembly of the Canadian Jewish Congress, the
> then president of the World Jewish Congress, Edgar Bronfman, attacked
> Austrians for having elected Kurt Waldheim, whom Bronfman regarded as a
> Nazi war criminal, as their president. While discussing the possibility of
> Waldheim standing for reelection as president of Austria, Bronfman said:
> 
>         "Let him run again. Let Austria decide whether it is a civilized
>         country or the dirty anti-Semitic dogs that they have so far been...
>         (the Austrians are) a people who, if they will not repent for what
>         they did, could do it again."
> 
> The Austrian ambassador to Canada sent Edgar Bronfman a protest letter
> rejecting the allegation that Kurt Waldheim was a Nazi war criminal,
> adding that Bronfman's statements were an insult to the Austrian people.
> He wrote:
> 
>          "You are aware, perhaps to a higher degree than anyone else, that
>          all the investigations, including those conducted by Israeli
>          authorities, by the International Commission of Historians and by
>          a panel of five distinguished judges from different Western
>          countries, have come to the conclusion that our Federal President
>          is not guilty of any war crime. You would seem to prefer, however,
>          to ignore this evidence and instead continue to insult the Austrian
>          people in a summary fashion" ["Bronfman comment insulting, Austrian 
>          ambassador declares," The Globe and Mail, May 10, 1989].
> 
> A private citizen in Toronto laid a complaint against Bronfman for
> inciting hatred against the Austrian people as a result of the speech. The
> complaint was forwarded to Montreal police to determine whether a criminal
> investigation should be launched. No record exists that any action was
> ever taken on this complaint. ["Bronfman remark probed," The Canadian
> Jewish News, June 8, 1989].

Of course not.  Jews are the unassailable minority -- they can NEVER do
anything wrong, even hurl racial slurs.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan  5 20:33:33 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: rec.music.white-power: it'll be a cold day in hell
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> If ever there was a UseNet CFD that was destined to be shot down in 
> flames, big-time, Nazi Milton Kleim's call for a "white power" music 
> newsgroup qualifies, in spades.
> 
> In article <820866207.1723@uunet.uu.net>, 
> bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim) wrote:
> 
>> There is no appropriate newsgroup for discussion of White Power 
>> music, a phenomenon which is international in scope.
> 
> Good on UseNet, Mr. Kleim, for having the good sense to reject
> this sort of racist crap during all of these marvellous years
> of growth.

We'll see, we'll see.

(snip - Kenny really losing it over RaHoWa's lyrics to "Third Reich")

> For information about Mr. Kleim, Mr. Burdi (associated with such 
> groups as the Ku Klux Klan, Heritage Front, Tom Metzger's
> White Aryan Resistance, and the now-defunct "Church of the Creator"), 
> point your web browsers to the following URL's:
> 
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/national-alliance/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/adl/church-of-the-creator/cotc-1993
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/league-for-human-rights/heritage-front/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/sirc/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/b/burdi.george/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/k/kleim.milton/

You just don't get it, do you Kenny?  EVERY SINGLE TIME that you do
something like this, you're just giving us free publicity!
 
> ...then mobilize your friends and fellow net.denizens, and give Mr. 
> Kleim a vote so lopsided he'll need decades to forget it.

You may be surprised at the response his idea gets!

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 11:30:57 PST 1996
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Subject: Mr. Baron educates me! (was: More Treason from Kleim)
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Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> I've met the author; have you?
> 
> Les, you are behaving exactly the way Zionist hatemongers WANT "Nazis" to 
> behave.

Which is how, exactly?  I don't like jews, and I don't make any bones
about it.  Nor do I go through the tortured self-delusions of "Zionist"
jews and "nice" jews.
  
>> > As someone who has published a documented expose of a Zionist-inspired agent
>> > provocateur I know what I'm talking about. Also whatever certain creeps have
>> > posted about me in this group I am neither a Nazi or an anti-Semite.
>> 
>> Alex, 
> 
> Please don't EVER call me Alex.

Why not?

> I've never denied that there are Zionist-inspired agents provocateur, but 
>> what I'm saying is, not every White Nationalist is an ADL mole.  You owe Milton 
>> a big apology for the sheer stupidity of your statement.  (in case you've 
>> forgotten, that's the one where you asked him if he worked for the ADL because 
>> he wasn't ready to jump up and down and criticize _The Turner Diaries_)
> 
> Again, the only people who profit from trash like The Turner Diaries and its
> sequel Hunter are the people who hate every race but one - like Yale; and
> the socialist international. Wake up. What do you think Hitler would have 
> thought of it?

I think Hitler would have rather liked _The Turner Diaries), but I think
his overwhelming opinion of it would be sorrow that the White race had let
itself be pushed into a corner like that.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 11:30:58 PST 1996
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> [a response to my article about hate-rock RFD]
> 
>  Good on UseNet, Mr. Kleim, for having the good sense to reject
>>> this sort of racist crap during all of these marvellous years
>>> of growth.
>>
>> We'll see, we'll see.

> Yes, Mr. Griswold, we will. I have a great deal of faith in
> the public's ability to see folks like you for precisely what
> you are. All they have to do is read your own words - they
> condemn you more eloquently than anyone else possibly could.
> 
> URL: ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/g/griswold.les/ says
> it all, Mr. Griswold.

If you have so much faith in people, Kenny, why do you archive every
little thing we post?  Do you think that the Great Unwashed need your 
enlightened leadership?

>>> groups as the Ku Klux Klan, Heritage Front, Tom Metzger's
>>> White Aryan Resistance, and the now-defunct "Church of the Creator"), 
>>> point your web browsers to the following URL's:
>>> 
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/national-alliance/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/adl/church-of-the-creator/cotc-1993
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/league-for-human-rights/heritage-front/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/sirc/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/b/burdi.george/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/k/kleim.milton/
> 
>>You just don't get it, do you Kenny?  EVERY SINGLE TIME that you do
>>something like this, you're just giving us free publicity!
> 
> That is precisely why I do it, Mr. Griswold. The clean, bright
> light of day this "publicity" shines upon your foul
> "philosophy," will not favour you.

Yes, and we just look SO BAD when we don't hide or deny ANYTHING that we
say, right?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 12:01:48 PST 1996
Article: 10216 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to confuse Mr. Griswold...
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>>> Caesar wrote:
> 
>>> Are you going to exterminate or castrate anyone who you don't think is white?
> 
>>That will not be necessary, although it shows how you feebs like to rush
>>to assumptions.  No, we will simply institute a program of NEGATIVE
>>immigration, ie repatriation.
> 
> Mr. Griswold seems confused about precisely what he intends..
> I know you'll find it difficult to believe, but he contradicts
> himself from time to time...
> 
> Yes, it's true! Canada's "leader" of the Nazi National
> Alliance can't make up his mind... perhaps because he hasn't
> got one.
> You see, he's already made it clear that he would establish a
> program to stop "undesirables" from breeding... he refuses to
> define "undesirable," or explain just how he intends to
> prevent their breeding. But now he's yammering about
> "repatriation." 
> 
> To where, one wonders, will he "repatriate" the "Aryans," who,
> after all, are immigrants one and all?

Hoo, boy, Kenny's finally showing his true colours after all this time! 
And here I thought he was just a little creep!  Turns out he's a DELUDED
little creep!

Listen, Gomer, Aryans are NOT immigrants, nor were their ancestors!  They
came here, not as "economic refugees", but as SETTLERS.  There's a
difference; I suggest you familiarize yourself with it.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 23:11:42 PST 1996
Article: 64427 of can.general
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: rec.music.white-power: it'll be a cold day in hell
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> If ever there was a UseNet CFD that was destined to be shot down in 
> flames, big-time, Nazi Milton Kleim's call for a "white power" music 
> newsgroup qualifies, in spades.
> 
> In article <820866207.1723@uunet.uu.net>, 
> bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim) wrote:
> 
>> There is no appropriate newsgroup for discussion of White Power 
>> music, a phenomenon which is international in scope.
> 
> Good on UseNet, Mr. Kleim, for having the good sense to reject
> this sort of racist crap during all of these marvellous years
> of growth.

We'll see, we'll see.

(snip - Kenny really losing it over RaHoWa's lyrics to "Third Reich")

> For information about Mr. Kleim, Mr. Burdi (associated with such 
> groups as the Ku Klux Klan, Heritage Front, Tom Metzger's
> White Aryan Resistance, and the now-defunct "Church of the Creator"), 
> point your web browsers to the following URL's:
> 
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/national-alliance/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/adl/church-of-the-creator/cotc-1993
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/league-for-human-rights/heritage-front/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/sirc/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/b/burdi.george/
> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/k/kleim.milton/

You just don't get it, do you Kenny?  EVERY SINGLE TIME that you do
something like this, you're just giving us free publicity!
 
> ...then mobilize your friends and fellow net.denizens, and give Mr. 
> Kleim a vote so lopsided he'll need decades to forget it.

You may be surprised at the response his idea gets!

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 23:11:44 PST 1996
Article: 64492 of can.general
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to confuse Mr. Griswold...
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>>> Caesar wrote:
> 
>>> Are you going to exterminate or castrate anyone who you don't think is white?
> 
>>That will not be necessary, although it shows how you feebs like to rush
>>to assumptions.  No, we will simply institute a program of NEGATIVE
>>immigration, ie repatriation.
> 
> Mr. Griswold seems confused about precisely what he intends..
> I know you'll find it difficult to believe, but he contradicts
> himself from time to time...
> 
> Yes, it's true! Canada's "leader" of the Nazi National
> Alliance can't make up his mind... perhaps because he hasn't
> got one.
> You see, he's already made it clear that he would establish a
> program to stop "undesirables" from breeding... he refuses to
> define "undesirable," or explain just how he intends to
> prevent their breeding. But now he's yammering about
> "repatriation." 
> 
> To where, one wonders, will he "repatriate" the "Aryans," who,
> after all, are immigrants one and all?

Hoo, boy, Kenny's finally showing his true colours after all this time! 
And here I thought he was just a little creep!  Turns out he's a DELUDED
little creep!

Listen, Gomer, Aryans are NOT immigrants, nor were their ancestors!  They
came here, not as "economic refugees", but as SETTLERS.  There's a
difference; I suggest you familiarize yourself with it.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan  6 23:11:45 PST 1996
Article: 64493 of can.general
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: It's getting pretty cold out there... (was: rec.music.white-power: it'll be a cold day in hell) 
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> [a response to my article about hate-rock RFD]
> 
>  Good on UseNet, Mr. Kleim, for having the good sense to reject
>>> this sort of racist crap during all of these marvellous years
>>> of growth.
>>
>> We'll see, we'll see.

> Yes, Mr. Griswold, we will. I have a great deal of faith in
> the public's ability to see folks like you for precisely what
> you are. All they have to do is read your own words - they
> condemn you more eloquently than anyone else possibly could.
> 
> URL: ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/g/griswold.les/ says
> it all, Mr. Griswold.

If you have so much faith in people, Kenny, why do you archive every
little thing we post?  Do you think that the Great Unwashed need your 
enlightened leadership?

>>> groups as the Ku Klux Klan, Heritage Front, Tom Metzger's
>>> White Aryan Resistance, and the now-defunct "Church of the Creator"), 
>>> point your web browsers to the following URL's:
>>> 
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/national-alliance/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/american/adl/church-of-the-creator/cotc-1993
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/league-for-human-rights/heritage-front/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/orgs/canadian/sirc/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/b/burdi.george/
>>> ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/people/k/kleim.milton/
> 
>>You just don't get it, do you Kenny?  EVERY SINGLE TIME that you do
>>something like this, you're just giving us free publicity!
> 
> That is precisely why I do it, Mr. Griswold. The clean, bright
> light of day this "publicity" shines upon your foul
> "philosophy," will not favour you.

Yes, and we just look SO BAD when we don't hide or deny ANYTHING that we
say, right?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 10:02:20 PST 1996
Article: 19139 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Kenny and free speech... (was: rec.music.white-power: it'll be a cold day in hell) 
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Racial Theorist (xyz@scsn.net) writes:
> kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
> 
>>If ever there was a UseNet CFD that was destined to be shot down in 
>>flames, big-time, Nazi Milton Kleim's call for a "white power" music 
>>newsgroup qualifies, in spades.
> 
> i thought you were in favor of free speech, kenny.
> 
>>Good on UseNet, Mr. Kleim, for having the good sense to reject
>>this sort of racist crap during all of these marvellous years
>>of growth.
> 
>>_This_ is the unadulterated crap you want to move into
>>mainstream UseNet, Mr. Kleim?
> 
> i thought you were in favor of free speech, kenny.
> 
>>...then mobilize your friends and fellow net.denizens, and give Mr. 
>>Kleim a vote so lopsided he'll need decades to forget it.
> 
> i thought you were in favor of free speech, kenny.

He doesn't.  He believes in free speech, SORTA, as long as it only extends
to people who use it "responsibly" (that is also left up to his definition)

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 10:02:21 PST 1996
Article: 19153 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Liberals ARE dinosaurs! (was: Kleim the Kook...)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Wandering wrote:
>> 
>> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>> 
>> : One of the many things that's strange about liberals is that they tell us
>> : to get out and see the real world, and then when we DO, and report what
>> : we've encountered, some priss will come along and sneer that empirical
>> : observations don't count, or that our sample size was insufficient to draw
>> : proper (ie, non-racist) conclusions, or some other such twaddle.
>> 
>> Les, Les... there you go again, mistaking your delusions for the "real
>> world". (Oops, there goes liberal me, sneering at you again -- actually, I'm
>> more of a patriopsychotic anarchomaterialist, but since you seem to define
>> "liberal" as anyone who doesn't agree with you, then I'm a liberal.)
>> 
>> I can't say as I can exactly trust your definition of twaddle, however; let
>> me lay it out for you:
>> 
>> The way logic works for the rest of us is that we look at evidence and draw
>> conclusions from it. You and the rest of your fellow travellers seem to have
>> it backwards; you start with a conclusion ("Jews/blacks/non-'whites' are
>> hateful, vile, omnipresent, smug, et blarf") and then look for evidence to
>> support it. Ontologically putting the cart before the horse, it's no wonder
>> that you "think" the way you do.
>> 
>> Actually, the plain fact is that we're laughing at you, boy. We're laughing,
>> and pointing, and wondering when you'll wake up to the fact that you're
>> blaming all of your shortcomings on people who couldn't give a rat's kidneys
>> about your so-called philosophy. You're a biitter old man of whatever your
>> age is, and it's sad -- really sad to see you and the rest of you poor
>> misunderstood conspiracists wither and die in the self-consuming rage of
>> your own hatred. Too bad... it really didn't have to be this way... if only
>> someone could have loved you, maybe you'd be happier... Oh, well.
> 
> It would be really interesting to see what people like this would say if
> it turned out that in spite of our "faulty" scientific methodology, we turned
> out to be right. But of course, the multiculturalists here would never stop
> to consider that possibility. They have made up their minds in the other
> direction. They say that they have come to their conclusions based upon
> correct methodology. Well, all I can say is paleantologists used correct
> scientific methodology when they came up with the theory that dinosaurs
> were cold-blooded (or rather exothermic) too. But they were wrong because
> in spite of the fact that they were using the best scientific methodology
> to form their conclusions, they overlooked great amounts of evidence to
> the contrary because THEY DIDN"T THINK THE INFORMATION WAS IMPORTANT!
> Moral? Using correct methodology to form opinions only works when you
> use ALL OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE as part of your hypothesis. 
> Methodology is only a part of the equation. Many learned men have arrived
> at very faulty conclusions using very proper scientific methods.

Yes, liberals seem to have an almost pathological fear of addressing
ANYTHING that they can't out-shout.  Mention, for example, higher negro
crime rates or lower IQs, and watch the excuses come pouring forth.  Or
suggest that not all jews are friendly little guys, and watch the
name-calling erupt.  But they can never provide any observations of
substance, mostly because they know that they are being intellectually
dishonest.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 10:45:56 PST 1996
Article: 10308 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry liberals (was: Something to worry white racists)
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Bloody Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> > Let everyone compete and if you are talented enough you'll get by 
>> > just fine. If Mexicans could freely cross the border for example, they would 
>> > soon figure out that being unemployed and shot at by gangs in East LA is not 
>> > much better than being poor in Nogales or Guadalajara...
>> 
>> Why don't they stay in Nogales or Guadalajara and make the positive
>> changes required?
> 
> Why didn't the ancestors of white Americans stay in Ireland, Britain
> or Germany instead of moving to the US?

The ancestors of White Americans came to the continent that later BECAME
the U.S. through their HARD WORK, not to sponge off the medical system
that someone had built, mooch off welfare, or work illegally.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 10:45:56 PST 1996
Article: 10309 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry liberals (was: Something to worry white racists)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:

(snip - a lot of liberal blather defending the institution of runaway
immigration of darkies)

> Here is what I consider the best argument for stopping or (at least) limiting
> immigration.
> 
> Recently, near Redding California, an epidemic of "B strain" hepititus broke
> out. The California health department reported that the epidemic came from
> resivoir water which had been contaminated by south-east Asian immigrants 
> deficating and urinating in the resivoir.
> 
> A couple of years ago, illegal Mexicans, were bringing cholera into the USA
> with them. Now, there is a low-level cholera epidemic among Hispanic
> populations in the American Southwest, that has started to bleed over
> into the non-Hispanic population through contact in schools and other 
> public meeting places.
> 
> As late as 1980, there was not ONE case of tuberculoses reported in the
> United States. In 1981, The United States Department of Health, Education
> and Welfare announced that tuberculosis was a thing of the past, another
> disease to add to the growing lists of ailments that had been eradicated
> from our shores. In1995, there were more than 2000 NEW cases of
> tuberculosis reported (according to US DOHEW statistics) in New York
> City alone. Brought in by immigrants from the far east, this mini epidemic
> has quickly crossed into the general population.

Yes, tuberculosis is making a comeback here in Canada, too.  It's real
popular among the officials working in the front lines of the Immigration
Department, and it was also reported by Health Canada that TWENTY-FIVE
PERCENT of the guards and inmates at Milhaven (a prison) had the TB bacterium.

> My question is this: Do we NEED this? Why does a country like the US, in 
> which the ideal population density was reached in 1945 (at 125 million), 
> and which now has upwards of 270 million, need more people from 
> anywhere?
> 
> Who is responsible for this madness? And why have we, the American
> People, allowed whoever is responsible for this travesty to get away
> with it?
> 
> Whatever happened to common sense? Didn't anybody ever stop to think
> that if you allow unbridled immigration from backward third-world
> countries like those found in south-east Asia, the place where ALL
> flu epidemics start, that these people would bring these diseases 
> with them?

Good question.  Yes, the people who crafted the immigration policies of
the sixties were perfectly well aware of what they were doing.

Les
Graves




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 10:45:57 PST 1996
Article: 10310 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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Lady Angel (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, evil Beavis wrote:
> 
>> Les Griswold wrote:
>> > Other "cultures" don't assimilate, they take over and ruin things.
>> 
>> 
>> How can they possibly "take over" when they are inferior (according to 
>> you)??! 
>> 
> I AGREE.. ppl complain over and over, that some huge assimilation and 
> revolution will come about and 'minorities' are trying to take over or 
> whatever... yet, they claim to us being 'inferior'. white conservatives, 
> need to get their shit straight, not 'facts', by all means.. and deal 
> with the fact, that minorities (underrepresented) are goin' or doin' 
> anything.. but growin' in number, so deal with it, we ain't goin' 
> anywhere. :} because for one, as a latina, more so a human being, this is 
> my land as much as it is any other white persons.

It's always easier to destroy a culture than to build one up.  Further,
the fact that non-Whites are destroying our culture proves NOTHING, except
that our institutions (among them, our judicial system) were not meant for
non-Whites, who have little or no understanding of the principles that lie
behind them.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 11:01:51 PST 1996
Article: 13520 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry liberals (was: Something to worry white racists)
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Bloody Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> > Let everyone compete and if you are talented enough you'll get by 
>> > just fine. If Mexicans could freely cross the border for example, they would 
>> > soon figure out that being unemployed and shot at by gangs in East LA is not 
>> > much better than being poor in Nogales or Guadalajara...
>> 
>> Why don't they stay in Nogales or Guadalajara and make the positive
>> changes required?
> 
> Why didn't the ancestors of white Americans stay in Ireland, Britain
> or Germany instead of moving to the US?

The ancestors of White Americans came to the continent that later BECAME
the U.S. through their HARD WORK, not to sponge off the medical system
that someone had built, mooch off welfare, or work illegally.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 11:01:51 PST 1996
Article: 13521 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry liberals (was: Something to worry white racists)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:

(snip - a lot of liberal blather defending the institution of runaway
immigration of darkies)

> Here is what I consider the best argument for stopping or (at least) limiting
> immigration.
> 
> Recently, near Redding California, an epidemic of "B strain" hepititus broke
> out. The California health department reported that the epidemic came from
> resivoir water which had been contaminated by south-east Asian immigrants 
> deficating and urinating in the resivoir.
> 
> A couple of years ago, illegal Mexicans, were bringing cholera into the USA
> with them. Now, there is a low-level cholera epidemic among Hispanic
> populations in the American Southwest, that has started to bleed over
> into the non-Hispanic population through contact in schools and other 
> public meeting places.
> 
> As late as 1980, there was not ONE case of tuberculoses reported in the
> United States. In 1981, The United States Department of Health, Education
> and Welfare announced that tuberculosis was a thing of the past, another
> disease to add to the growing lists of ailments that had been eradicated
> from our shores. In1995, there were more than 2000 NEW cases of
> tuberculosis reported (according to US DOHEW statistics) in New York
> City alone. Brought in by immigrants from the far east, this mini epidemic
> has quickly crossed into the general population.

Yes, tuberculosis is making a comeback here in Canada, too.  It's real
popular among the officials working in the front lines of the Immigration
Department, and it was also reported by Health Canada that TWENTY-FIVE
PERCENT of the guards and inmates at Milhaven (a prison) had the TB bacterium.

> My question is this: Do we NEED this? Why does a country like the US, in 
> which the ideal population density was reached in 1945 (at 125 million), 
> and which now has upwards of 270 million, need more people from 
> anywhere?
> 
> Who is responsible for this madness? And why have we, the American
> People, allowed whoever is responsible for this travesty to get away
> with it?
> 
> Whatever happened to common sense? Didn't anybody ever stop to think
> that if you allow unbridled immigration from backward third-world
> countries like those found in south-east Asia, the place where ALL
> flu epidemics start, that these people would bring these diseases 
> with them?

Good question.  Yes, the people who crafted the immigration policies of
the sixties were perfectly well aware of what they were doing.

Les
Graves




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 11:01:52 PST 1996
Article: 13522 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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Lady Angel (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, evil Beavis wrote:
> 
>> Les Griswold wrote:
>> > Other "cultures" don't assimilate, they take over and ruin things.
>> 
>> 
>> How can they possibly "take over" when they are inferior (according to 
>> you)??! 
>> 
> I AGREE.. ppl complain over and over, that some huge assimilation and 
> revolution will come about and 'minorities' are trying to take over or 
> whatever... yet, they claim to us being 'inferior'. white conservatives, 
> need to get their shit straight, not 'facts', by all means.. and deal 
> with the fact, that minorities (underrepresented) are goin' or doin' 
> anything.. but growin' in number, so deal with it, we ain't goin' 
> anywhere. :} because for one, as a latina, more so a human being, this is 
> my land as much as it is any other white persons.

It's always easier to destroy a culture than to build one up.  Further,
the fact that non-Whites are destroying our culture proves NOTHING, except
that our institutions (among them, our judicial system) were not meant for
non-Whites, who have little or no understanding of the principles that lie
behind them.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 11:01:53 PST 1996
Article: 13535 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Something funny on T.V....
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Last Saturday, on a kid's show called "Gargoyles", there was an episode
about this crippled old man (jewish, of course), who wanted to transfer
his soul into the Golem.  There was a flash-back to 1580 in Prague,
showing the persecution that the jews were suffering, and why some rabbi
created the Golem in the first place.  What I found disturbing, though,
was that the jews were all portrayed as White, while the Czechs were all
drawn as Mongoloid little creeps.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan  7 12:09:50 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: rec.music.white-power
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I believe that the creation of such a newsgroup is a good idea.  After
all, it would give WP music fans a place to go, and would be a totally
appropriate venue for admirers of WP music.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 01:44:15 PST 1996
Article: 13596 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Request for Churchill article on Jews.
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 (whitewolf@alpha.c2.org) writes:
> Racial greetings comrades!
> 
> I have read in 'Hunter' of the existance of a newspaper article by Churchill
> in which he attacked the Jews. ('Hunter' p. 125.)
> 
> Paper: London Illustrated Sunday Hearld
> Date : February 8th, 1920.
> 
> Does anybody have a copy of it they could send me? or know of any website
> where I could find it?
> 
> Thanks for your time.
> 
> Whitewolf.

Racial greetings, Whitewolf!

You could try the National Alliance webpage at:

http://www.natvan.com

If they don't have it, I'm sure that someone else could help you.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:37:27 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Oh, get a grip, Paterson (was: Griswold...)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>>bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>>Yes, and we just look SO BAD when we don't hide or deny ANYTHING that we
>>>say, right?
> 
>>kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>>You lie routinely - it is, in fact, your one consistant reality.
> 
> Well, what about it Les, are you a liar or are you not? Not giving an
> answer looks sort of incriminating, doesn't it? If a man called me a
> liar, I'd want to deny it personally, with proof.

Yes, and if a MAN calls me a liar, I'll look at it rather differently than
I do when KENNY calls me one.
 
> Guess you can't produce that proof, right? 
 
Yes, I can't be bothered to worry about what does and doesn't satisfy
twits like McOyVay, Brown, or you.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:45:59 PST 1996
Article: 10435 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to confuse Mr. McVay...
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros) wrote:
> 
>>The Aryans are conquerors, why should the conquerors be forced to
>>go anywhere they don't want to?
> 
> Ourobouros sounds Greek.
> 
> A Greek living in New Zealand?
> 
> Was that the nearest country to Greece that would take you in? Are you
> another of R.C. Richfarts, ("racial bigot in service of terminal
> stupidity")'s refugees living off the "white race's" sweat?  How come
> you're so mouthy about bigotry - seems to me you're just another piece
> of Levantine ratshit.

But... but, you said that Greeks (and other Mediterraneans) were actually
Aryans, so why the sudden name-calling of Greeks as "Levantine ratshit"? 
So which message were you drunk, anyway:  the one where you called all
sorts of med people "Aryan", or this one?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:46:00 PST 1996
Article: 10436 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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"James White" (white@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Jan 07, 1996 13:30:02 in article  Burdi: Hate for Money)>, 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)' wrote: 
>  
>>It's always easier to destroy a culture than to build one up.  Further, 
>>the fact that non-Whites are destroying our culture proves NOTHING, except
>>that our institutions (among them, our judicial system) were not meant for
>>non-Whites, who have little or no understanding of the principles that lie
>>behind them. 
>  
> Do security guards understand the judicial system?  What do security guards
> really understand?

They understand how to detain arrogant assholes who think that they can
breeze right by security regulations.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:46:01 PST 1996
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca), twat, writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>The ancestors of White Americans came to the continent that later BECAME
>>the U.S. through their HARD WORK, not to sponge off the medical system
>>that someone had built, mooch off welfare, or work illegally.
> 
> You mean all those "white" people on welfare are really passing? Try
> not to be such a jerk, Griswold!

Let's talk about absolute numbers, shall we?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:46:02 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF RACISM IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Black Man wrote:
>> 
>> An example of how racist the legal system is, is the treatment of
>> people arrested for drugs offences.
>> 
>> A white guy with powdered cocaine gets away with a short sentence or
>> even none at all. A black guy with crack cocaine can get 5 years
>> in prison.
>> 
>> It's still the same drug, but the powdered version (which is
>> mostly used by whites) carries a lesser sentence than the
>> form used mainly by blacks.

> More violent crime is associated with crack cocaine, and people are concerned 
> because of that.

HOLY SHIT, Beaver!  You're actually showing some sense!  You might also
want to mention the fact that the nigger arrested with crack cocaine
probably has a rap sheet as long as your arm, whereas the white arrested
with cocaine probably has no prior convictions.

Les




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Subject: The jewdicial system (was: Conservative Whites)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Lady Angel (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:

(snip)

>> > I AGREE.. ppl complain over and over, that some huge assimilation and
>> > revolution will come about and 'minorities' are trying to take over or
>> > whatever... yet, they claim to us being 'inferior'. white conservatives,
>> > need to get their shit straight, not 'facts', by all means.. and deal
>> > with the fact, that minorities (underrepresented) are goin' or doin'
>> > anything.. but growin' in number, so deal with it, we ain't goin'
>> > anywhere. :} because for one, as a latina, more so a human being, this is
>> > my land as much as it is any other white persons.
>> 
>> It's always easier to destroy a culture than to build one up.  Further,
>> the fact that non-Whites are destroying our culture proves NOTHING, except
>> that our institutions (among them, our judicial system) were not meant for
>> non-Whites, who have little or no understanding of the principles that lie
>> behind them.
> 
> That is why the legal system will gradually change, slowly but surely, in 
> order to accurately represent a changing population. This will happen whether 
> you like it or not...

Actually, I hope the legal system continues to change, but at an even
faster rate than we're seeing.  Like the O.J. trial.  That was a GREAT
confirmation of everything that we've been saying for years!  Why, we can
just put our feet up and sit back, while the majority of whites SEE what
our society has become as a result of integration, and what
"multiculturalism" has contributed.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:46:04 PST 1996
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_LadyAngel_ (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Les Griswold wrote:
> 
>> Lady Angel (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:

>> > I AGREE.. ppl complain over and over, that some huge assimilation and 
>> > revolution will come about and 'minorities' are trying to take over or 
>> > whatever... yet, they claim to us being 'inferior'. white conservatives, 
>> > need to get their shit straight, not 'facts', by all means.. and deal 
>> > with the fact, that minorities (underrepresented) are goin' or doin' 
>> > anything.. but growin' in number, so deal with it, we ain't goin' 
>> > anywhere. :} because for one, as a latina, more so a human being, this is 
>> > my land as much as it is any other white persons.
>> 
>> It's always easier to destroy a culture than to build one up.  Further,
>> the fact that non-Whites are destroying our culture proves NOTHING, except
>> that our institutions (among them, our judicial system) were not meant for
>> non-Whites, who have little or no understanding of the principles that lie
>> behind them.
> 
> If anyone, it's us, the true natives of this land who understand the real 
> principles amongst a true nation.

Oh, like hell.  The "true natives" of this land understood tribal warfare,
a nomadic way of life that never progressed beyond the Stone Age, and
torture, which they practiced with great gusto, first on each other, then
on any White who was unfortunate enough to fall into their Red hands.

> It is the white conservatives, 
> traditionalist, who don't understand the  true principle of a nation 
> for the people. How the hell can they, when in order to keep one, they 
> must be seperatist and racist. And who the hell are you to say, what 
> system was not meant for 'non-whites'? a white conservative, no doubt.

Nope, I'm White, but no conservative.  See, there's nothing left to
conserve, beaner.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:50:20 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Aryans - Wonderful News!
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> I notice the term Aryan being bandied about in this sewage group, so I
> thought I might bring aid and comfort to those who claim to be of
> Aryan descent.
> 
> The Aryan people comprise everyone who speaks an Aryan language, more
> commonly called Indo-European today. As our "racial theorists" will
> know of course, Arya is a Sanskrit word meaning prince and was applied
> to the people of Iran, itself a corruption of the word Aryan.
> 
> Aryans include the Sikhs, Pathans, Afghans, Pakistanis, etc., the
> Iranians, Kurds, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Greeks, Italians
> - in fact just about everyone in Europe except the Basques, Finns,
> Lapps, Estonians and Hungarians, who are all essentially of mixed
> Mongol descent. Most Slavs are Aryans, again with Tatar/Mongol mixes.

*sigh*

I KNEW it would only be a matter of time before some idiot came
be-bopping along trying to tell us that the brown degenerated riff-raff
>from  the Middle East is "Aryan".

(rest of race-baiting cow-snot deleted)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:50:21 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Aryans - Wonderful News!
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Michael Paterson wrote:
>> 
>> I notice the term Aryan being bandied about in this sewage group, so I
>> thought I might bring aid and comfort to those who claim to be of
>> Aryan descent.
>> 
>> The Aryan people comprise everyone who speaks an Aryan language, more
>> commonly called Indo-European today. As our "racial theorists" will
>> know of course, Arya is a Sanskrit word meaning prince and was applied
>> to the people of Iran, itself a corruption of the word Aryan.
> 
>>>Many lines of lunatic, probably drunken, ravings deleted for brevity.<<
> 
>> There now, a good Gaelic cursing. I feel much better. Now we'll wait
>> and see if there really is a God and whether he'll act on my
>> suggestions.  Is there anything else I can teach you about how to hate
>> properly?
>> 
>> Bad luck to you all!
>> 
>> Micheil Rob Mac Phadruig
>> druidh/duine-uasail
> 
> OK, you don't like us. Fine, what's your point? If you don't like it here on 
> this NG, and if we are so unimportant, why waste your breath. Its easy.
> IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHAT"S GOING ON HERE, DON"T COME HERE!!!!!
> 
> and BTW, you're a twat.

DAMN!!!  You beat me to it!

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:50:22 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Multi-cultural cats! (was: Fear of Multi-culturalism)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>> 
>> In article <30EF1E41.73E1@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
>> wrote:

(You buy a cat to keep your house's mouse population under control)
>> > your house under control. This he does. But when your back is turned, he
>> > eats your parakeet, scratches the baby, and bites the dog. The question
>> > then becomes: is it worth putting up with a dead parakeet, a baby who now
>> > needs a tetnus shot, and a dog who has been traumatized simply to get a
>> > few mice eradicated? Is the cat's contribution to the household worth his
>> > negative impact on the household? The answer, of course, is no. Get rid if
>> > the cat, and buy mousetraps. The contention of we, whom you call racists,
>> > is that blacks not only don't pull their weight in this society, but that
>> > they have a terribly negative impact on the community. We not only have to
>> > support a large percentage of them, but they repay us by committing crimes
>> > against us.
>> 
>> Poor analogy, Graves. In your philosophy, the answer to the problem of the
>> cat in your house is not to deal with that one cat, but to round up all
>> cats everywhere and send them back to Catland. Can you say "overkill"?

Not really, shit-for-brains.  Re-read the ENTIRETY of George's excellent
analogy about cats causing problems.  He likens them to negroes in the
U.S. (and Canada) who do nothing BUT cause problems.  He's stating, quite
clearly except for boneheads like you, that negroes contribute NOTHING of
worth to our society.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  8 06:50:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Multi-cultural labour! (was: Fear of Multi-culturalism)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>> 
>> In article <30EF1E41.73E1@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
>> wrote:

(snip)

>> > My ancestors built this country. They carved this nation out of
>> > nothing, so that we Americans could live better with each successive
>> > generation.
>> 
>> The actual labor of that 'carving' was done largely by the very Chinese
>> and blacks you despise, Graves. Do they count for any more than the mules
>> and oxen in your view?
> =====================================================================
> Absolute, unmitigated BULLSHIT. Very few southerners owned black slaves.
> The Chinese helped to build the Western Pacific section of the transcon., From
> Sacramento CA to Promentary Point, Utah PERIOD!!! The rest of this country
> was built by Irish, German, Scandinavian and English immigrants. Unless I have
> missed something, these were WHITE. If your gonna lie to make a point, lie to
> sombody who doesn't know any better. This effort is an insult.

This is something that liberals love to screech about:  that we'd be
NOWHERE without non-white labour.  What they seem to forget is that
non-white muscle may well have contributed SOMETHING to our society, but
it was White intellect that contributed MORE.  The proof is simple:  there
were (and still are) a lot of negroes and Chinese in Africa and China,
respectively.  Would anyone (even Brown) argue that Africa and/or China
are anywhere NEAR as powerful as the U.S.?  Why not?  Africa and China had,
and still have, an even greater number of negroes and Chinese.  All
they're missing is the White direction, and we KNOW that's not
significant, right?

Les



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Subject: Re: Mr. Baron educates me! (was: More Treason from Kleim)
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Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> > Les, you are behaving exactly the way Zionist hatemongers WANT "Nazis" to 
>> > behave.
>> 
>> Which is how, exactly?  
> 
> Like anti-black bigots and psychos? Have you read - probably not - BEHIND 
> COMMUNISM by Frank Britton? He makes a lot of mistakes but his section on
> Hollywood and race is very good.
> 
>>I don't like jews, and I don't make any bones
>> about it.  Nor do I go through the tortured self-delusions of "Zionist"
>> jews and "nice" jews.
> 
> Of course, any black man could say the same, that he didn't see any difference
> between slave traders and abolitionists and so on.

What a hobbyist!

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 03:44:47 PST 1996
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Subject: Something to worry evil Beavis (was: Something to worry white racists)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> George Graves wrote:
>> 
>> evil Beavis wrote:

(snip - Graves explaining to an unusually non-stupid lib [Caesar] about
repatriation vs. extermination or castration, the two solutions he assumed
were the ONLY ideas we had for dealing with the non-whites already here. 
Of course, eB, with his limited intellect, just HAD to run screaming like
a retard to interrupt...)

>> > It seems America would be better off without people like YOU...

>> And we should welcome, with open arms, miscegenists like you?

> I guess whoever makes the laws does. Pisses you off that your views 
> aren't represented by the majority of Americans huh?!

Only a temporary situation, we assure you.  Scares the pants off you that
your miscegenation is one day going to carry a penalty more severe than
angry glares in shopping malls, eh?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 03:52:22 PST 1996
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Mr Richard Ethan Latker wrote:
>> 
>> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
>> 
>> : Also, in Japan a one bedroom condo can cost $500,000 versus $60,000 in the
>> : USA. This means $500,000/$60,000 = 8.34 less buying power.
>> 
>> You're correct that in monetary terms, the Japanese standard of living is
>> lower than that of the US. The economy, however, is far stronger on a per
>> capita basis and the quality of life for the average Japanese person is,
>> in general, excellent. Their life expectancy is longer than that of
>> Americans, their education more thorough and the social services
>> available more comprehensive.
>> 
>> They've done pretty, well, Frank. Imagine if they had a whole continent
>> to play with rather than some tiny group of islands.

> Well, it's hard to get through most Americans' skulls that living 
> standards concern more than how many TV's and camcorders one owns. 
> Social services, education, life expectancy etc.

Yes, Beaver, but disposable income ALSO plays a part in standard of
living, as does the affordability of housing.  I know that'll cause a
violent reaction in your socialistic world-view, but it's the truth.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 15:04:21 PST 1996
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Yes, and if a MAN calls me a liar, I'll look at it rather differently than
>>I do when KENNY calls me one.
> 
> Funny how a lot of you guys with these racist problems are a bit
> ambivalent about your sexual orientation, isn't it? Swing a bit to the
> left, do we Les?  

1)  Racism isn't a problem.

2)  WHERE do you come to the conclusion that I'm "ambivalent" about my
sexual orientation?

> Cruised anyone interesting recently. 

Wouldn't YOU like to know?

> I'm happy to tell you my sexual orientation is strictly heterosexual

... and I'm happy to tell you that I couldn't care less.

> (What an interesting career you've had; FASCINATING reading!)

Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?

(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 15:04:23 PST 1996
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:

(snip)

>> > That is why the legal system will gradually change, slowly but surely, in
>> > order to accurately represent a changing population. This will happen
>> > whether you like it or not...
>> 
>> Actually, I hope the legal system continues to change, but at an even
>> faster rate than we're seeing.  Like the O.J. trial.  That was a GREAT
>> confirmation of everything that we've been saying for years!  Why, we can
>> just put our feet up and sit back, while the majority of whites SEE what
>> our society has become as a result of integration, and what
>> "multiculturalism" has contributed.
>
> No. The O.J. trial was a joke and such occurrences must be minimized. But at 
> least the judicial system is not nearly as corrupted as, say, in the South 
> before the civil rights laws. Then again, I guess you're one of those people 
> that feel that as long as you're not the victim, you don't care what happens 
> to other people...

Actually, I care GREATLY what happens to other white people, even
renegadish sluts like Nicole Brown Simpson.  But I take a long-range view
of things:  Nicole was one victim, but I wonder just how many white girls
she woke up?  Probably a LOT more than you'd like to admit...

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 15:06:07 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Paterson has fairies on the brain (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Yes, and if a MAN calls me a liar, I'll look at it rather differently than
>>I do when KENNY calls me one.
> 
> Funny how a lot of you guys with these racist problems are a bit
> ambivalent about your sexual orientation, isn't it? Swing a bit to the
> left, do we Les?  

1)  Racism isn't a problem.

2)  WHERE do you come to the conclusion that I'm "ambivalent" about my
sexual orientation?

> Cruised anyone interesting recently. 

Wouldn't YOU like to know?

> I'm happy to tell you my sexual orientation is strictly heterosexual

... and I'm happy to tell you that I couldn't care less.

> (What an interesting career you've had; FASCINATING reading!)

Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?

(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan  9 15:06:08 PST 1996
Article: 13801 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: WHITE NATIONALISTS DON'T NEED THEIR OWN STATE - AMERIKA WILL DO
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Black Man (an479493@anon.penet.fi) writes:
> White racist nationalists don't need their own state. Amerika will
> do fine. Every Amerikan president was a white man and the
> white men are still in control.

Sure we need our own state. One without multiracialism.  "White" men may
be in control, but when's the last time any of these "White" men stood up
for the rights of the WHITE race?  Vizmins get breaks left-right-center
for alleged past misdeeds, but where is the recognition of the
contributions of the Whites?

Les





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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Paterson has fairies on the brain (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Yes, and if a MAN calls me a liar, I'll look at it rather differently than
>>I do when KENNY calls me one.
> 
> Funny how a lot of you guys with these racist problems are a bit
> ambivalent about your sexual orientation, isn't it? Swing a bit to the
> left, do we Les?  

1)  Racism isn't a problem.

2)  WHERE do you come to the conclusion that I'm "ambivalent" about my
sexual orientation?

> Cruised anyone interesting recently. 

Wouldn't YOU like to know?

> I'm happy to tell you my sexual orientation is strictly heterosexual

... and I'm happy to tell you that I couldn't care less.

> (What an interesting career you've had; FASCINATING reading!)

Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?

(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 06:31:31 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Paterson has fairies on the brain (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?
> 
>>(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)
> 
> No Les, I've been reading your file in a rather more sinister
> organization from your point of view.

(Les puts on his spectacles and taps the blackboard with his pointer)

"Today, class, we'll be studying ham-handed attempts to create paranoia. 
This is a particularly clumsy attempt by an amateur to do so."

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 06:31:32 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Conservative Whites (was: George Burdi: Hate for Money)
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_LadyAngel_ (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:
> On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Les Griswold wrote:
>> _LadyAngel_ (ez055918@peseta.ucdavis.edu) writes:

(snip)

>> > If anyone, it's us, the true natives of this land who understand the real 
>> > principles amongst a true nation.
>> 
>> Oh, like hell.  The "true natives" of this land understood tribal warfare,
>> a nomadic way of life that never progressed beyond the Stone Age, and
>> torture, which they practiced with great gusto, first on each other, then
>> on any White who was unfortunate enough to fall into their Red hands.
>> 
>> > It is the white conservatives, 
>> > traditionalist, who don't understand the  true principle of a nation 
>> > for the people. How the hell can they, when in order to keep one, they 
>> > must be seperatist and racist. And who the hell are you to say, what 
>> > system was not meant for 'non-whites'? a white conservative, no doubt.
>> 
>> Nope, I'm White, but no conservative.  See, there's nothing left to
>> conserve, beaner.
>
> the why the hell do you got to sit here and believe you know everything? 

New one on me!  I never claim to know everything, but just because I'm not
omniscient, doesn't mean that I don't recognize shit when I see it, or
don't have the right to call it as I see it.  Essentially, liberal ideas
of multiracialism are shit.

> again, how can i white person tell me what to believe about principles of 
> a nation? well, in all, i don't need to sling crude flames around to 
> prove my point, you and your writing take your own self down.

Well, you go on believing what YOU want to believe.  Try not to slaughter
the English language too much when you express your ideas, though.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 06:31:33 PST 1996
Article: 10687 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Mark S. sticks up for miscegenation! (why are we NOT surprised?)
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(was: Miscegenation...)
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Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Only a temporary situation, we assure you.  Scares the pants off you that
> : your miscegenation is one day going to carry a penalty more severe than
> : angry glares in shopping malls, eh?
> 
> I'm very curious, as I seemed to miss the discussion here.  Why is 
> miscegenation in and of itself a Bad Thing?
> 
> Frank has mentioned how integration doesn't work, that people of 
> different races don't want to live together.  Mixed-race marriages can 
> help bridge the gap, and bring communities together to help our nation 
> run itself more efficiently.  

And they can also open eyes like nothing else.

Like O.J. Simpson.

Like Johnnie Cochran.
 
> All of you who oppose race mixing don't want to preserve the status quo, 

Well, no shit, Sherlock.

> but are imagining that some day we will work towards a separation 
> somehow.  You have to admit, that any such separation would cause 
> billions in lost productivity, and possibly lives.  Subdividing nations 
> just isn't efficient.  Look at Bosnia.  Look at Canada, where Quebec 
> wants to split off; all predictions show that it would devastate both 
> sides.  Les, your own marriage would be split down the middle.  Is this 
> really what you want? 

Wrong.  My wife and I are from different cultures, but we're BOTH White. 
Are you REALLY this stupid, or just trying to rattle me?

> Separation is just *not* the answer.

Is so.
 
> I admit, the situation now sucks, and it's getting worse.  However, we 
> have to look to solutions that don't place blame and write off half the 
> population of the country, but dammit, we have to find a way to all live 
> together. 

Why?  Why not look at solutions that will WORK?

> I mean, people, we're all freaking adults.  Get over this 
> childish "my playground" stuff, show some selflessness and basic human 
> respect and reach out.  It pisses me off to have to speak in the language 
> of cost-benefit analysis regarding human beings here, but I know too many 
> intelligent and productiveblacks to listen to you say we should write off 
> a whole segment of America.

Imagine what these "intelligent and productive blacks" could do with
Africa!  Imagine what a paradise on earth they could make!  Or are they
not up to the challenge without AfAm and preferential treatment?

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 06:31:34 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The jewdicial system (was: Conservative Whites)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Caesar wrote:
>> 
>> > > Simpson got off because he bought a good defense team.
>> >
>> > That didn't hurt, either.  It ALSO helped to illustrate what our judicial
>> > system has become under the helping hand of jews.
>> 
>> What have Jews got to do with the Simposon trial?
>> 
>> Was Johnnie Cochrane a Jew?
>> 
>> I think not.

Was Robert Shapiro?  Alan Dershowitz?  Marcia Clark?

>> Stop blaming Jews for the failure of the American
>> legal system.

Why?  It's true, isn't it?

> Besides, you know Les had no problems with the American judicial system 
> when it persecuted blacks and let go murderous KKK members and other 
> filth when they lyched and raped people...

Beaver, I'm not denying that there were past injustices, stemming from
racism.  But that is NO excuse for the DAILY excesses we are seeing now.

Actually, I welcome the daily excesses, in our jewdicial system, and in
our government.  With every non-white favouring decision (and there are
MANY!) the number of angry, disillusioned whites grows by leaps and
bounds.  Some liberals actually understand this, too, but they just can't
seem to stop, or even slow down, their idiocy.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 06:44:30 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Paterson has fairies on the brain (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?
> 
>>(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)
> 
> No Les, I've been reading your file in a rather more sinister
> organization from your point of view.

(Les puts on his spectacles and taps the blackboard with his pointer)

"Today, class, we'll be studying ham-handed attempts to create paranoia. 
This is a particularly clumsy attempt by an amateur to do so."

Les




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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Yes, Paterson is a creep (was: Her Majesty the Queen vs Griswold...)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Michael Paterson wrote:
>> 
>> Boy, does research ever pay off!!
>> 
>> It'll be a day or two before I can borrow a scanner to put the
>> documents on the Net, but keep tuned to this channel and I'll give you
>> anti-racists a real treat!!
>> 
>> Find out why Mr. G.'s days as "Lord of the Caucasus" are numbered once
>> the Aryan Nation discovers what their aristocracy has been up to!!!
>> 
>> Documents, Court Registry Numbers, even a couple of transcripts - Les,
>> you really WERE a naughty boy!!!
>> 
>> Make your own mind up when you read what C-pic, the RCMP's
>> international database turned up!  Hang in folks - you're gonna LOVE
>> this one!!!!
>> 
>> PLUS!  Coming soon - R.C. Richards - Racial Theorist or ???
>> 
>> How was a young lad supporting himself when he quarrelled with his
>> parents and left home???  Fond memories of San Francisco!!!!!
>> 
>> (Many thanks to the Officers who dedicated their off-duty time to
>> doing some research for me.)

> Christ, we have found a REAL creep here haven't we?

Yes, but he likes seeing his name in the subject header, so let's oblige
him, shall we?

Les




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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: More blah-blah-blah from evil Beavis (was: Multi-cultural cats!)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:

(snip - George Graves made an excellent point that negroes tear down any
civilization they're part of, using cats as a metaphor.  Jeffrey G. Brown,
of course, disagreed, saying that it was a "poor comparison")

>> Not really, shit-for-brains.  Re-read the ENTIRETY of George's excellent
>> analogy about cats causing problems.  He likens them to negroes in the
>> U.S. (and Canada) who do nothing BUT cause problems.  He's stating, quite
>> clearly except for boneheads like you, that negroes contribute NOTHING of
>> worth to our society.

> You seem to be the biggest problem maker around here. I would dare say 
> that many a "negro" has contributed far more to American society than 
> you ever will...

I'm sorry, eB:  WHEN did I EVER say that I cared in the least what a TWAT
like you would "dare say"?

Les




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Sodalite (troberto@direct.ca) writes:

(snip - much Michael Paterson shit deleted)

Moi:
>>(rest of race-baiting cow-snot deleted)
> 
> Actually, I thought what he wrote was quite brilliant.  Kudos to
> Michael Paterson!  It's about time someone told you clowns off.


You would.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 07:18:11 PST 1996
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
>> > In article 
>> >            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> 
>> >> The ancestors of White Americans came to the continent that later BECAME
>> >> the U.S. through their HARD WORK, not to sponge off the medical system
>> >> that someone had built, mooch off welfare, or work illegally.
>> > 
>> > Are you saying there are no whites on welfare?
>> 
>> Not at all, pinhead.  What I AM saying, and what anyone who reads without
>> moving their lips could tell, is that the ANCESTORS of the Whites who came
>> here didn't come for The Easy Life.
> 
> Well, the ancestors of the blacks didn't have an "easy life"
> either.

Come clean:  you're evil "Foot-boy" Beavis' other account, aren't you? 
There's NO-ONE ELSE here who gets so wrapped up in picking some
insignificant point, and trying to rally around it.  C'mon, tell, we won't
penalize you.

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 07:18:55 PST 1996
Article: 13953 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: WHITE NATIONALISTS DON'T NEED THEIR OWN STATE - AMERIKA WILL DO
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Black Man (an479493@anon.penet.fi) writes:
>> > White racist nationalists don't need their own state. Amerika will
>> > do fine. Every Amerikan president was a white man and the
>> > white men are still in control.
>> 
>> Sure we need our own state. One without multiracialism.  "White" men may
>> be in control, but when's the last time any of these "White" men stood up
>> for the rights of the WHITE race?  Vizmins get breaks left-right-center
>> for alleged past misdeeds, but where is the recognition of the
>> contributions of the Whites?
> 
> It seems to me that a just and functional government recognizes the 
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right there, Beaver, you show that you're not talking about the
governments of either the United States, or Canada.

> contribution of all it's citizens and not just certain groups.

So when's the last time ANY government recognized the UNIQUE contributions
of Whites?

> The U.S. is truly a multi-cultural nation whether people like it or not.

I ususally let this sort of liberal obfuscation go by, but not this time: 
it's multiRACIAL, not multiCULTURAL.  And yes, it is that way whether
people like it or not.  Were they asked?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 10 19:59:29 PST 1996
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article <30EA95DC.37A1@aimnet.com> gmgraves@aimnet.com "George Graves" writes:

(snip)

(Steve Withers?) 
>> > Whoever this troll was...........New Zealand has no 'anti-immigration'
>> > party that I know of.
>> > 
>> > The party currently in power (National Party) is probably the most
>> > PRO immigration party.
>> 
>> Oh, so they got to New Zealand too? Today, and idyllic island paradise
>> in the South Pacific, tomorrow a cesspool of multiculturalism. Add
>> one more ruined white country to the list.
> 
> Maoris lived in New Zealand before whites.

*sigh*

Why do we have to keep explaining this?

Maoris did NOT live in New Zealand before Whites.  They lived on the
ISLAND that WHITES built INTO New Zealand.  Before the Whites came and
built, the Maoris had been running around gobbling each other up for millenia.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 01:12:56 PST 1996
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Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) writes:
> In article <4crk1o$9u4@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA>, Laura Finsten
>  wrote:
> 
> :George Graves  wrote:
> :> [in reply to Frank Weltner]
> :>> 
> :
> :>Frank, why don't you ask yourself the REAL question. WHY have they suffered
> :>a great deal? Could it be that they have done something to cause this
> :>suffering to be visited upon them? 
> :
> I do not see how not desiring to consume a sow's ear sandwich with bacon
> fettucini and shrimp cocktails on a daily basis is grounds for gassing
> this tribe of innocent and worthy people to death at Auswitz
> Konzentrazionen Kampf. It is uncivilized and unworthy of the German people
> or any other people to have done this heinous crime to mankind. God bless
> the Jews.

So, tell us, Mr. Potato, HOW MANY jews were "gassed to death" at Auschwitz?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 01:18:08 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Susan Groppi (groppi@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> 
> : OK kick out all non-whites and all non-productive whites. Feel better?
> 
> What about the productive non-whites?
> 
> 
> 		-- Susan

Geezus, Susan, I CANNOT believe how stupid and infantile you liberals are
willing to be, just for the sake of argument.  George Graves, among
others, has made it VERY PLAIN that he supports a WHITE HOMELAND for the
WHITE RACE.  Non-Whites, productive or not, are not welcome.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 01:40:25 PST 1996
Article: 14065 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Hey, Foot-boy...
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I wonder when Joseph Paul Franklin is up for parole?  Why don't you invite
him to your wedding?

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 08:17:31 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Frank Weltner wrote:
>> 
>> In article <4coq2v$r8o@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws45.harvard.edu
>> (Mark Staloff) wrote:
>> 
>> :George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
>> :
>> :: Does not Israel accept all Jews wishing to go "home"?
>> :
>> :It isn't my home, in any case.  I've never been there.  I don't speak
>> :Hebrew.  Home is New Jersey.  I was born in the United States, same as
>> :you (unless - are you Canadian?), just to different parents.
>> :
>> :Mark
>> 
>> Mark, you are welcome in America. Your jewish ancestors have always worked
>> hard and produced things for the culture. Don't let George get you down.
>> Atomic energy, mathematics, algebra, philosophy, these are GREAT
>> contributions to society, evolution, and human growth. The Jews have
>> blessed the whites throughout all of history.
> 
> Wow, Frank, You're right! I don't know what the world would have done
> for the last 50 years without the atomic bomb, or atomic energy. Look
> what we would have missed without that Jew-science: Hiroshima, 
> Nagasaki, MAD, the Arms Race, Three Mile Island, Cherynoble, nuclear
> proliferation, atmospheric testing, fallout shelters, "duck and cover".
> Boy, I sure wouldn't have wanted to miss that! Not to mention the 
> cultural contribution of Jews: prime-time network TV, quality 
> Hollywood movies (ala Spielberg), Tiny Tim, Pinky Lee, Soupy Sales,
> Joey Bishop, Rossanne!  Yeah boy. Bring on them Jews, can't live without
> 'em.

George:

Frank ALSO neglected to mention that OTHER magnificient jewish
contribution:  compound interest, which has led to yet ANOTHER peculiarly
jewish institution:  the irony of a jew owning a farm that he would NEVER
work.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 08:17:32 PST 1996
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            potato@mo.net "Frank Weltner" writes:
> 
>> In article <820874925snz@augur.demon.co.uk>, Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> 
>> :In article 
>> :           bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> :
>> :> That will not be necessary, although it shows how you feebs like to rush
>> :> to assumptions.  No, we will simply institute a program of NEGATIVE
>> :> immigration, ie repatriation.
>> :
>> :That is ironic coming from a white North American.
>> :
>> :The whites themselves immigrated to America no more than 500 years ago.
>> :They too are immigrants.
>> :
>> :Why should Hispanics be deported from the US and whites be allowed
>> :to remain? There is no reason other than racism for your proposal.

>> All people have the right to defend their racial and ethnic heritage
>> including the whites, blacks, and hispanics. However, the end of the
>> coming civil war is easy to see. The whites will win, because we are
>> superior, stronger, smarter, and God loves us and not them. 
> 
> Maybe the reason you'd win (if you did win) is that whites in
> the US outnumber non-whites 3 to 1. It's pretty difficult
> to lose when you're in such a numerical majority.

That's funny.  It really is.

Liberals never tire of reminding us that we're a minority world-wide, yet
like to mention REGIONAL superiority of numbers when it suits their cause.

Listen, bub:  our victory would be certain, even if the non-whites
outnumbered us TEN to one in the United States, and everywhere.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 11 08:19:30 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Canada's Anti-White Laws
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:

(snip)

The toga guy:
>> > Maoris lived in New Zealand before whites.

Moi: 
>> *sigh*
>> 
>> Why do we have to keep explaining this?
>> 
>> Maoris did NOT live in New Zealand before Whites.  They lived on the
>> ISLAND that WHITES built INTO New Zealand.  Before the Whites came and
>> built, the Maoris had been running around gobbling each other up for millenia.
> 
> The Maoris still lived in the area which is now New Zealand until
> the whites stole the land from them.

This is where your argument falls to itty-bitty pieces, Bloody Caesar. 
WHAT were the islands that became New Zealand when the Maoris were the
sole inhabitants?  NOTHING.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 08:40:07 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Oh, get a grip, Paterson (was: Griswold...)
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Gord McFee (gmcfee@ibm.net) writes:
> In , bn946@freenet.carleton.ca said:
> 
>>>>>Yes, and we just look SO BAD when we don't hide or deny ANYTHING that we
>>>>>say, right?
>>> 
>>>>kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>>You lie routinely - it is, in fact, your one consistant reality.
>>> 
>>> Well, what about it Les, are you a liar or are you not? Not giving an
>>> answer looks sort of incriminating, doesn't it? If a man called me a
>>> liar, I'd want to deny it personally, with proof.
> 
>>Yes, and if a MAN calls me a liar, I'll look at it rather differently than
>>I do when KENNY calls me one.
> 
> Really are jealous, aren't you Les?  McVay gets all the press and you get
> all the ridicule.  McVay is a man, and you are a...well...a Les.

And...?  What's so great about "getting press"?  Is THAT the measure of
manhood?  Shit, then jews must consider Hitler, the Nazis and neo-Nazis to
be men, then.
 
> You wouldn't know a MAN if one sat on your face, although you would probably
> enjoy it.

Gee, THAT'S original!

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 09:34:27 PST 1996
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca), vying for "Twat of the Year" award, 
writes: 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>> "Mr. Griswold, my daddy says Hitler had black hair.  He showed me a 
>>> picture from a big book and he was right.  Why did you say he was blond?"
> 
>>I never said he was blond.
> 
> Les, maybe you'd better check http//www.nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> (Better
> known to the aryan nation as Nizkweer). He has posts from you where
> you say Hitler was blond. If you want, I'll go back in there and get
> the URLs so your readers know you're lying again.

Yes, please do.

(snip - Mikey shit about Hitler, and also my wife)

> ... - why don't you post an address, Les, so I can let her know what a 
> faithful husband you've been... A man so dedicated as you are to "family 
> values" has no fear of what someone might say to your wife, right?

bn861@freenet.carleton.ca.  Have fun!

> Hey, Les, maybe if she and I hit it off, I could solve a lot of your problems
> for you...

This is so typical.  Mikey just got through calling my wife all sorts of
names, and now he's drooling about "hitting it off" with her.

You know, Mikey, with your disjointed ramblings, I'd put you in a league
with James "Super-German" White.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 09:34:28 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Mark S. sticks up for miscegenation! (why are we NOT surprised?)
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Stewart King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip - cause I KNOW how Stewie loves this)
 
> : > but are imagining that some day we will work towards a separation 
> : > somehow.  You have to admit, that any such separation would cause 
> : > billions in lost productivity, and possibly lives.  Subdividing nations 
> : > just isn't efficient.  Look at Bosnia.  Look at Canada, where Quebec 
> : > wants to split off; all predictions show that it would devastate both 
> : > sides.  Les, your own marriage would be split down the middle.  Is this 
> : > really what you want? 
> 
> : Wrong.  My wife and I are from different cultures, but we're BOTH White. 
> : Are you REALLY this stupid, or just trying to rattle me?
> 
> How could he be stupid when he looks sort of like Tom Cruise?  He was 
> talking about Canada, the whole Quebec thing - people trying to split a 
> nation along cultural and provincial lines - and about splitting nations 
> generally.  The word "race" isn't even in his paragraph.

No, dummy, but he's trying to make out like my wife and I would be
separated if we WENT BY RACE.  I maintain that we wouldn't, because the
anglophones and the francophones are ONE RACE.  Hell, my wife has never
even set FOOT in Quebec, much less been born there.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 09:34:29 PST 1996
Article: 10927 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Is that "Inca" or "Inka" (was: Something to worry white racists)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip - Potato going on about negro inferiority [whaht else?] and Laura
drooling over "Inkas")

>>>  Ever seen Inka masonry architecture?  The Inkan architects
>>>  constructed massive palaces and other buildings using stones
>>>  precisely cut to fit together so tightly that a dime can't be
>>>  inserted between them.  No mortar needed.  Precolumbian Maya and
>>>  Mexican architecture is pretty phenomenal too (and also uses stone).
>>
>>So how did Inkans (sic) become negroes all of a sudden?  That WAS what
>>Frank was talking about, and I have to support him on this one, even if he
>>does have some rather warped ideas about jews.
>>
>>>   It simply is not true that "only whites work with stone...".
>>
>>No.  What would be true, however, would be to say that only Whites have
>>developed stone-working into anything significant in the modern day. 
>>Inkan (sic) pyramids are nice to look at, but where are the Inkans (sic)
>>today?
> 
> Who said Inkas are black?  I did not, nor did I imply that they are.

Then why did you attempt to use Inkan (sic) accomplishments to disporve
Frank's point that negroes are as useless as a screen door on a submarine?

> Or are you saying they are/were white?

I most certainly am not.

> I used this example to show that the statement that "only whites work with
> stone" is false.  Inkas were not "white" as I understand your usage of this
> category, Inkas constructed magnificent buildings of stone, ergo the
> statement is false.
> 
> You rely on "the modern day" to fortify logically flawed and inaccurate 
> arguments about the universal inferiority of nonwhites.

Well, is the modern day not more significant than the past?  I'll admit
that knowing one's past helps dispell a lot of misunderstandings (especially 
the P.C. crap about "evil Whites/nice non-whites"), but it just isn't as
important as our CURRENT world.

> If you wish to
> get into universal arguments, you have to take into account historical
> change.  At the time that Europe was an "architectural backwater", people
> in South America, Mesoamerica, China and many "nonwhite" parts of the world
> were undertaking highly sophisticated architectural constructions.

Even granting that your multiracial droolings are true (or even
significant), so what?  South America, Mesoamerica, China, et al, MAY have
been way ahead of Europe when it was in the "Dark Ages", BUT THEY AREN'T
NOW.  It's as simple as that.

> If the ability to produce sophisticated masonry architecture is going to be
> used as a measure of "racial superiority", then one must account for these
> historical differences.  Does this kind of argument mean that "whites" have
> only achieved their "racial superiority" in the past thousand years or so?

The ability to produce sophisticated masonry architecture is ONE facet of
racial superiority.  No-one is going to seriously argue that Central
American Indians are/were superior because they built kick-ass step pyramids.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 09:40:37 PST 1996
Article: 14238 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Is that "Inca" or "Inka" (was: Something to worry white racists)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip - Potato going on about negro inferiority [whaht else?] and Laura
drooling over "Inkas")

>>>  Ever seen Inka masonry architecture?  The Inkan architects
>>>  constructed massive palaces and other buildings using stones
>>>  precisely cut to fit together so tightly that a dime can't be
>>>  inserted between them.  No mortar needed.  Precolumbian Maya and
>>>  Mexican architecture is pretty phenomenal too (and also uses stone).
>>
>>So how did Inkans (sic) become negroes all of a sudden?  That WAS what
>>Frank was talking about, and I have to support him on this one, even if he
>>does have some rather warped ideas about jews.
>>
>>>   It simply is not true that "only whites work with stone...".
>>
>>No.  What would be true, however, would be to say that only Whites have
>>developed stone-working into anything significant in the modern day. 
>>Inkan (sic) pyramids are nice to look at, but where are the Inkans (sic)
>>today?
> 
> Who said Inkas are black?  I did not, nor did I imply that they are.

Then why did you attempt to use Inkan (sic) accomplishments to disporve
Frank's point that negroes are as useless as a screen door on a submarine?

> Or are you saying they are/were white?

I most certainly am not.

> I used this example to show that the statement that "only whites work with
> stone" is false.  Inkas were not "white" as I understand your usage of this
> category, Inkas constructed magnificent buildings of stone, ergo the
> statement is false.
> 
> You rely on "the modern day" to fortify logically flawed and inaccurate 
> arguments about the universal inferiority of nonwhites.

Well, is the modern day not more significant than the past?  I'll admit
that knowing one's past helps dispell a lot of misunderstandings (especially 
the P.C. crap about "evil Whites/nice non-whites"), but it just isn't as
important as our CURRENT world.

> If you wish to
> get into universal arguments, you have to take into account historical
> change.  At the time that Europe was an "architectural backwater", people
> in South America, Mesoamerica, China and many "nonwhite" parts of the world
> were undertaking highly sophisticated architectural constructions.

Even granting that your multiracial droolings are true (or even
significant), so what?  South America, Mesoamerica, China, et al, MAY have
been way ahead of Europe when it was in the "Dark Ages", BUT THEY AREN'T
NOW.  It's as simple as that.

> If the ability to produce sophisticated masonry architecture is going to be
> used as a measure of "racial superiority", then one must account for these
> historical differences.  Does this kind of argument mean that "whites" have
> only achieved their "racial superiority" in the past thousand years or so?

The ability to produce sophisticated masonry architecture is ONE facet of
racial superiority.  No-one is going to seriously argue that Central
American Indians are/were superior because they built kick-ass step pyramids.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 11:27:49 PST 1996
Article: 10981 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry white racists
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Stewart King wrote:
>> 
>> Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) wrote:
>> : Susan Groppi (groppi@scws33.harvard.edu) wrote:
>> 
>> : : Well, I won't argue.  You're both beautiful.
>> 
>> : Well, Susan, I find you far more beautiful than Stewart.  I'm not going
>> : to explain the Stewart thing for his benefit.
>> 
>> Don't worry, I don't even understand what you're talking about and I'm
>> leaving Usenet indefinitely again now.
>> 
>> : Anyway, yeah, I'll take the blame for dragging him in.  I sent him one of
>> : Frank's posts which I thought he should read; other than that he's been a
>> : good boy about keeping out of the cookie jar.
>> 
>> Is that what they're calling the freshmen at RISD these days?
> 
> My god! This entire thread has turned into a "mutual admiration society" for
> multiculturalists.

Don't be too hard on the multiculturalists, George.  After all, THEY have
to admimre one another, because NO-ONE ELSE does!

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 12 15:09:45 PST 1996
Article: 10981 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something to worry white racists
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Stewart King wrote:
>> 
>> Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) wrote:
>> : Susan Groppi (groppi@scws33.harvard.edu) wrote:
>> 
>> : : Well, I won't argue.  You're both beautiful.
>> 
>> : Well, Susan, I find you far more beautiful than Stewart.  I'm not going
>> : to explain the Stewart thing for his benefit.
>> 
>> Don't worry, I don't even understand what you're talking about and I'm
>> leaving Usenet indefinitely again now.
>> 
>> : Anyway, yeah, I'll take the blame for dragging him in.  I sent him one of
>> : Frank's posts which I thought he should read; other than that he's been a
>> : good boy about keeping out of the cookie jar.
>> 
>> Is that what they're calling the freshmen at RISD these days?
> 
> My god! This entire thread has turned into a "mutual admiration society" for
> multiculturalists.

Don't be too hard on the multiculturalists, George.  After all, THEY have
to admimre one another, because NO-ONE ELSE does!

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:01:45 PST 1996
Article: 19864 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: EXISTANCE OF A SO-CALLED JEWISH CONSPIRACY
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Josh Klein (jaklein@unix.amherst.edu) writes:
> Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) wrote:
>> What does OBC stand for?
> 
> It stands for the Order of British Columbia.  Ken McVay was honored with this title by the government of that province for his work combatting
> hate on the internet.  As soon as the news about the OBC came out, most
> oif us congratulated Ken on the impressive (and well-deserved) honor.
> It is interesting to note , however, that Griswold et. al. got
> sour grapes pretty fast.  Marc Lemire was especially amusing and envious,
> a fact perhaps explained by the observation that the letters "OBC"
> are conspicuously absent from HIS name!

And not too long after Mr. McVay was granted his "well-deserved" honour,
the news ALSO came out about the premier of British Columbia scamming (get
this!) CHARITY BINGO REVENUES to fund the provincial NDP.  What a fucking
hoot!  And McVay STILL has the temerity (I would say brazen idiocy) to
attach the letters "OBC" after his name.  Some people...

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:01:46 PST 1996
Article: 19869 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Harry Katz:  Oy vey! (was: Bigots at odds)
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Harry "Kool" Katz (hkatz@earth.usa.net) writes:
> In article <30EF0E45.15DD@aimnet.com>,
> George Graves  wrote:
> 
> 	Frank, why don't you ask yourself the REAL question. WHY have
> 	they suffered a great deal? Could it be that they have done
> 	something to cause this suffering to be visited upon them?
> 
> Mark Van Alstine wrote:
>  
> 	And perhaps, Graves, they have done _nothing_ to deserve such
> 	persecution?  That they have been persecuted _because_ of the
> 	bigotry and hate of the _persecutors_?  Did _that_ thought ever
> 	cross your tiny, hateful, little brain?
> 
> In article <30F19D88.7187@aimnet.com>,
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) comes back:
> 
> 	No, because I know better.
> 
> If Mr. Graves really "knew better" then he would have put that
> knowledge into his original post, or into this one, instead  of
> relying on the innuendo of a loaded question.  The fact is that
> Mr. Graves knows absolutely nothing and that is why he can never
> back up anything he writes.
> 
> Note that he does not even try to refute Mr. Alstine's assertion that
> his "brain" is "tiny, hateful, [and] little..."

Maybe because Mr. Graves recognizes infantile name-calling, something YOU
seem to think is the meat-and-potatoes of "Mr. Alstine's" message.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:28 PST 1996
Article: 11032 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: James Black tells it like it is in HIS little world (was: Griswold Would Aryan Superman Denies Hitler Post)
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"James White" (white@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Jan 11, 1996 03:15:35 in article  (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)>, 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les
> Griswold)' wrote: 
>  
>>I never said he was blond.  Really, Mark, you should know better than to 
>>run screaming like a feeb with some second-hand information that you got 
>>from someone who makes it plain that he dislikes me.  But, if you
> insist... 
>  
> You said it.  Every one who posts here knows you said it, so why attempt to
> deny that you said it? 

But I DIDN'T say that, Jacob.  If you feel the need to talk about what
"every one who posts here" knows and doesn't know, then go for it...

> That is stupid.  But security guards are at the
> tail end of the bell curve anyway, what do you expect from their ilk? 
> Where is Lane Singer?  Especially runt security guards they are really on
> the low end of the curve mentally and physically.  The only place they can
> work is for a government agency which has AA for the physically
> handicapped. 

You really do have this thing for security guards, don't you?  Should I be
worried, ie don't drop the soap in the shower worried?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:30 PST 1996
Article: 11037 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Paterson has fairies on the brain (was: Oh, get a grip, Paterson)
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>> > bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> >
>> >>Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>> >>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> >
>> >>Uh-oh!  Been reading up on me at the Nizkweer Project, have you?
>> >
>> >>(why do I get the impression that that is the ONLY reason people go there?)
>> >
>> > No Les, I've been reading your file in a rather more sinister
>> > organization from your point of view.
>> 
>> (Les puts on his spectacles and taps the blackboard with his pointer)
>> 
>> "Today, class, we'll be studying ham-handed attempts to create paranoia.
>> This is a particularly clumsy attempt by an amateur to do so."
> 
> Les, this guy, who popped up on this NG last week sometime (I've never seen
> his "posts' before. He may have posted here before I came on board),
> threatens with every remark. He is going to post a dossier on both you
> and me (now, where the hell is a nut like that going to get this type of 
> info?). He claims to already have your dossier (aka above), and tells me
> he has "wonderful things" in store for me. I say we, just shout the idiot
> outa here. Did you see his pitiful attempt to dis me in VERY BAD German?
> Now he claims to know Russian. I hope his Russian is better than his 
> German, or he is in a world of hurt!

About the shouting thing:  nah, I think Paterson's just a pathetic human
being in need of attention, so let's not be too rough on the guy.  After
all, he can't HELP being a butt-head.

Re his German:  since I don't spikka the lingo, I'll take your word for it
that it was very bad.  But, it doesn't really surprise me, seeing as how
he can barely construct a coherent sentence in ENGLISH.  What a buffoon.

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:31 PST 1996
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RaCiAL ThEoRiSt (xyz@scsn.net) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> 
>>>   It simply is not true that "only whites work with stone...".
> 
>>No.  What would be true, however, would be to say that only Whites have
>>developed stone-working into anything significant in the modern day. 
>>Inkan (sic) pyramids are nice to look at, but where are the Inkans (sic)
>>today?
> 
> did the inkans ever send anybody to the moon?

Not to my knowledge.  They were famous, however, for breeding babies to eat.

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:32 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The jewdicial system (was: Conservative Whites)
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> Care to explain how Jews are responsible for non-whites in Canada?

Simple.  Jews were (and still are, BTW) the ones pushing the concept that
all races are equal, all lifestyles are equally valid, etc...  of course,
you won't believe it, and we can sit back and expect some more of your
witty (but empty) sophistry.

Ya know, gotta hand it to the jews.  They ALMOST had it this time.  But
they made the mistake of assuming that Whites would go down rather than
wake up.  To paraphrase a racist writer, the majority of whites may be
pig-stupid, but even a hog can come to his senses at slaughtering time.

Les

--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:33 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The jewdicial system (was: Conservative Whites)
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Mr Richard Ethan Latker (pristine@news.hk.super.net) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Actually, I welcome the daily excesses, in our jewdicial system, and in
> : our government.  With every non-white favouring decision (and there are
> : MANY!) the number of angry, disillusioned whites grows by leaps and
> : bounds.  Some liberals actually understand this, too, but they just can't
> : seem to stop, or even slow down, their idiocy.
> 
> Hmm...I wonder if one compared how many BLACKS benefit from high-powered,
> high-paid Jewish lawyers, compared with the number of WHITES who do, what
> the result would be.... 
> 
> What do you think, Mr Grizzly?

I think that there should be NO high-powered, high-paid jewish lawyers in
our society, that's what I think.  Also no negroes, but je digress...

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:14:33 PST 1996
Article: 11096 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Personal taste... (was: The Man Against Time)
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Rob Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:
> In article <4d2dc1$l9t@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, eddiehtomb@aol.com
> (EddieHTOMB) wrote:
> 
>> Can't you do anything but nitpick? They're song lyrics, not a grammer SAT,
>> and if this guy isn't fuckin Shakespere, WHO CARES? I mean, some of the
>> world's greatest poets threw ryme and meter out the window. Look, if
>> you're going to attack this guys IDEAS or opinions, that's one thing, but
>> if you can't think of anything better to criticize than the structure of
>> his lyrics, it doesn't say much for your position.
> 
> Personally, I thought that it was a wonderful tribute to *The Crispy
> Critter of Caucasian Cretins*.
> 
> But then, one's taste in *art* is a very personal thing.

As is one's taste in women, obviously...

Les


--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 10:41:11 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: If YOU had this choice...
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Back in my wild n' wooly youth, I had a roommate who had been all over
Canada.  He had lived in Toronto for some time, and had known this rather
dusky chap whom he assumed was a negro, mostly because the guy told him he
was.  Well, it turns out that this guy was REALLY a paki, but told my
roomie that it was easier to pass as a negro than a paki.  Imagine!

Les



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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Aryans - Wonderful News!
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>BTW, most Arabs and Middle Easterners are NOT white, they're Semitic; that
>>is, of the same racial group as Sephardic jews.
> 
> As SEPHARDIC Jews??!!!
> 
> So Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic!!! 

No, they're Turko-Mongolic.  Slept through the anthropology, did you?

(snip)

> The reason I favour Irish is because of Jesus.  In fact, as I am also
> an avid racial theorist, I have conclusively proved that He was Irish.
> Look at the solid evidence - who else would be 33 years old, unmarried
> and living with His mother?!

A jew.  In fact, the joke is, how do we know Jesus was jewish?  He lived
with his parents until he was 30, he went into his father's line of work,
he thought his mother was a virgin, and his mother thought he was God.
 
Les

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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 13:08:46 PST 1996
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
>> > Caesar wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > > Simpson got off because he bought a good defense team.
>> >> >
>> >> > That didn't hurt, either.  It ALSO helped to illustrate what our judicial
>> >> > system has become under the helping hand of jews.
>> >> 
>> >> What have Jews got to do with the Simposon trial?
>> >> 
>> >> Was Johnnie Cochrane a Jew?
>> >> 
>> >> I think not.
>> 
>> Was Robert Shapiro?  Alan Dershowitz?  Marcia Clark?
> 
> Was Judge Ito? Christopher Darden?

A Jap and a negro.  Your point?  MY point is, neither of them would have
been allowed to come within 500 miles of a racially healthy, aware U.S. 
But thanks to the jews, we not only have non-whites in our society, we
also have the perverse situation where non-whites are sometimes in
positions of authority over whites, which is intolerable.

Les





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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> Graves,
> 
> Offer some proof for this World Zionist Conspiracy (and if you bring out
> the fucking Protocols of the Elders of Zion, I'll declare automatic
> victory) or shut the fuck up.

Translation:  there IS no World Zionist Conspiracy, and I get to define
what's acceptable evidence, anyway.

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 13 18:06:55 PST 1996
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"James White" (white@nyc.pipeline.com), fantasizing about me soaping up in the
shower, writes:
> On Jan 12, 1996 10:39:22 in article  Conservative Whites)>, 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)' wrote: 
>  
>>A Jap and a negro.  Your point?  MY point is, neither of them would have 
>>been allowed to come within 500 miles of a racially healthy, aware U.S.  
>>But thanks to the jews, we not only have non-whites in our society, we 
>>also have the perverse situation where non-whites are sometimes in 
>>positions of authority over whites, which is intolerable. 
>  
> If they were not here you would still be an unknown security guard because
> you are dumb and handicapped.  Do you think you have the mental capability
> of Ito or Darden? 

No, and I thank whatever gods there are EVERY DAY for that.

> Nature did not do you any favor,

Holy SHIT, but you're one to talk.  If you're even one-tenth as stupid in
real life as you are here on the 'Net, you're in big, big trouble.

(snip)

> It also must burn you up to know that
> in the 3rd Reich you would have gone to the ovens. 

You know, Jacob, this never ceases to amaze me about you:  that you know
EXACTLY  what the 3rd Reich would and wouldn't have done.  Sure you're
not one of us?

Les


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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip)

>>> I used this example to show that the statement that "only whites work with
>>> stone" is false.  Inkas were not "white" as I understand your usage of this
>>> category, Inkas constructed magnificent buildings of stone, ergo the
>>> statement is false.
>>> 
>>> You rely on "the modern day" to fortify logically flawed and inaccurate 
>>> arguments about the universal inferiority of nonwhites.
>>
>>Well, is the modern day not more significant than the past?
>>
>>Even granting that your multiracial droolings are true (or even
>>significant), so what?  South America, Mesoamerica, China, et al, MAY have
>>been way ahead of Europe when it was in the "Dark Ages", BUT THEY AREN'T
>>NOW.  It's as simple as that.
> 
> It depends on what you are using modern day examples to demonstrate.  
> Arguments about the INHERENT (i.e., biological) inferiority of nonwhites
> can be reasonably countered by historical examples, because they
> demonstrate that what one [thinks one] sees today has not always been 
> the case. Unless you wish to argue that major biological changes have
> occurred in recent history to rapidly elevate whites' "architectural" 
> (and other technological) abilities at the same time that the abilities
> of nonwhites were somehow eroded?    

Interesting take, Laura.  What would YOU say about it, accepting, for the
sake of argument, your version of history (ie, non-whites did just peachy
without White influence).

>>The ability to produce sophisticated masonry architecture is ONE facet of
>>racial superiority.  No-one is going to seriously argue that Central
>>American Indians are/were superior because they built kick-ass step pyramids.
> 
> Following your logic, though, you would argue that a thousand years ago
> native Central Americans and South Americans WERE superior??  Somehow I
> don't think so.

Good.  No, I wouldn't.  Whatever possessed you to make such a dumb-ass
statement, especially in light of the fact that I said architechtural
skill is but ONE facet of overall superiority.

Y'know, this reminds me of the argument that pops up here every few months
about how jews must be the superior race because they amass more wealth
than anyone else.

> I wouldn't either, but for different reasons.

Yes, we know.

> I don't think the "ability" to produce sophisticated masonry architecture
> has anything to do with "racial superiority".  In fact, I would argue that
> "ability" has little to do with it.  More important is the existence of 
> social and political institutions that use monumental architecture to 
> promote and reinforce those institutions.

Then you're monumentally stupid.  Yes, social and political institutions
are significant, but they cannot INSTILL an ability that is not there. 
This includes architechtural ability.

> But I've gone on far too much.  While I drool, why don't you tell us about
> all the "facets of racial superiority" you mention?      

Why?  You'll just use it as an excuse to demonstrate your witty repartee,
making puns and word-plays all over the place.  The simple fact is, the
White race is superior over all others, period, and that knowledge really
burns your ass.  You may argue against it, and maintain that it isn't so
even with your closest friends, but deep down, you KNOW it's true.

Les


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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
>> > In article 
>> >            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
>> > 
>> >> Don't be too hard on the multiculturalists, George.  After all, THEY have
>> >> to admimre one another, because NO-ONE ELSE does!
>> > 
>> > Well, who admires you Nazis then?
>> 
>> More people than you'd like to think.
> 
> Well, I hardly see millions of people voting for neo-Nazi
> parties in Britain or the US. You lot aren't popular
> and aren't admired.

Caesar, Caesar, Caesar...

You're SO stupid!  Really!

If the "neo-Nazi" candidates could get their ideas out WITHOUT
having to go through a jew-dominated press, where would your precious
little "reasoning" be?

Les



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to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 09:01:50 PST 1996
Article: 11184 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Stewart King (slking@scws33.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> : > In the wild, as has been explained to you repeatedly, different 
> : > races within a species exist primarily because they are separated by 
> : > geography.  If they were in the same place, they would interbreed 
> : > and then there wouldn't be distinct races.  Got it yet?
> 
> : And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped. 
> 
> You must think that's a wicked clever phrase considering that you used it 
> on me some time ago.

No, it's just appropriate.  Both you and Susan regularly base your
arguments on flights of fancy.
 
> : Really, Susan, just because something MIGHT happen is no justification for
> : ALLOWING it to happen.
> 
> But why's it bad?  Mixing traits is a natural evolutionary safety valve.  
> Variation rules. 

Something that hasn't seemed to sink into you liberals is, you can't pick
and choose your genes.  Only by careful application of accumulated
knowledge of WHAT will happen when one crosses two pure-breeds, with
predictable genotypes, can a desirable hybrid be obtained.  This is
SIGNIFICANTLY different than the hodge-podge, close-your-eyes-and-mix
philosophy that you guys appear to be espousing.

> The problems that exist between races are cultural, not genetic.

Cultural or genetic, they'd be solved by separation.

You know, the ONLY reason you guys get so steamed about these sorts of
debates is that they INVûARIABLY lead to the conclusion that Whites are
superior, hands down.  But A.C. posited an interesting idea a while ago: 
if an iron-clad argument could be made for White INFERIORITY, would you
still deny them the right to preserve their gene pool?

> : There's another observation about sub-species in nature:  two sub-species
> : of the same species will NOT inhabit the same environment forever.  
> : Sooner or later, ONE sub-species will assume control, and either 
> : exterminate, or drive out, the other sub-species.
> 
> Or quietly interbreed and go about their collective business.

Unfounded fantasy.

> The only reason there are subspecies at all is that groups of the same
> species were separated for a really bloody long time.  Obviously, humanity's 
> period of complete separation between various races has come to an end, 
> unless you want to impose pointless and arbitrary barriers.
> 
> : > They don't.  Environmental circumstances produce radically different 
> : > cultures.  
> 
> : And you go to Harvard?  Shit, they're letting ANYBODY in these days.
> 
> Not if you kill your mother first.  Let that be a warning to you all.
> 
> : Susan, you flaming idiot, NO-ONE, but NO-ONE, has EVER denied that
> 	     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> You misspelled "Harvard astrophysics major."  Hope this helps.

Astrophysics major?  Then I feel sorry for anyone who ever hires her. 
She's got her head in the clouds, and she can't address what IS said, so
like a typical lib, she addresses what she WISHES had been said, and hopes
nobody notices the difference.
	
> : environment plays a significant role in observable differences among the
> : races.  What they HAVE said, and what you seem to have a LOT of trouble
> : grasping, is that environment is not EXCLUSIVELY responsible for those
> : differences.
> 
> What's to grasp?  You've said it about twenty times without giving a whit 
> of evidence.  Never saw you reply to Mark's comment about Jamaican 
> parents and the results thereof.  Never got an answer when I asked what 
> exactly these racial factors were and how they worked.  

That's because you guys (Mark and you, Susan too, it now seems) are
fucking idiots who enjoy sophistry to put words in people's mouths.  I'm
not really interested in giving you ammunition to play with, nor am I
interested in beating my head against a wall arguing with obvious idiots.

As W.C. Fields once said:  "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
 Then give up.  There's no point being a damn fool about it."

Les


--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 09:23:38 PST 1996
Article: 14506 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
>>evil Beavis wrote:
> 
>>>Furthermore, I don't think I would go trough the trouble
>>>> to marry someone just to prove I'm politically correct.
> 
> xyz@scsn.net (Racial Theorist) wrote:
> 
>>i think you're lying, and i'm sorry to hear that.
> 
> Boy, I can't think of anyone better qualified to judge after reading
> your records at Nizkor, but as a professional interrogator of several
> years experience, I don't honestly believe he is.
> 
> As a professional note, I have detected you, Griswold and Graves all
> lying in the posts present in this NG alone.

"Professional"?!?  Now THERE are two words that don't go in the same
sentence (Michael Paterson and professional).

> If this were Berlin, you'd be on your way over to see Sergeant-Major
> Thompson right now; the best hangman the British Army ever had.  Never
> had a sinmgle head come off in all his career!

... and if this were Singapore, we'd be caned for spray-painting on cars. 
Your point?

Les




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 09:23:39 PST 1996
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Ethan Stein wrote:
>> George Graves  writes:

(snip)

>> >Right! You just watch as the soverienty of the United States continues
>> >to be absorbed by the United Nations. We already have placed our troops
>> >under its aegis in all but name. Next summer, you'll get to see U.N. troops
>> >from foreign nations, wearing their blue helmets (the same blue, I might
>> >add as the Israeli Flag -Coincidence? I wonder), patrolling the streets of
>> >Atlanta WITH MACHINE GUNS during the Summer Olympics there. Seems to
>> >me that someone hasn't screamed "WORLD GOVERNMENT" loudly ENOUGH.
>> >And after America sees that really happen, I'll bet it will be more than
>> >just "fruitcakes" like me screaming about it too!
>> 
>> George, you must be monumentally dim. Until very recently the U.N. held
>> that Zionism was equivalent to racism.

The U.N. made the declaration equating Zionism with racism in 1975,
dim-bulb.  It was overturned the next year, by sneering jews.

>> Who was behind this, World Jewry?

No, they were behind the hue and cry over it, and its eventual overturn.

>> I'd like to see you rationalize that one.

I'd like to see it, too.  Specifically, I'd like to see your rationalization 
for misrepresenting the issue.

>> The resolution equating Zionism
>> with racism was the product ofthe non-aligned states, arab states and the
>> soviets.

... all of whom have plenty of experience with the jews.  Funny, that.

>> I guess in your demented world view, somehow the Jews were behind
>> the resolution after all to cleverly fool everybody, and the arabs, non-
>> alignds, and soviets were all Jewish dupes. Only someone suffering from
>> psychotic tunnel vision could believe that one.
>> Zionism's goal is to have a Jewish homeland in the state of Israel. Even the
>> most avid Zionists only want that homeland to be within the biblical borders
>> of Israel, which would still be a state smaller than most of the other nations on the planet. You'd be pretty hard pressed to find any zionists who want
>> to occupy the streets of Atlanta!

So explain that to the Palestinians whom the Zionists want to remove from
the turf that THEY want.  Hey, it's ONLY smaller than Atlanta!  No biggie
if your house gets dynamited, etc...

>> Your reasoning is so insane that you actually see a connection between the
>> color of U.N. troop helmets and the Israeli flag. By that 'logic' George, do
>> suppose that all true patriotic Americans want to speak french  and eat
>> croissants? After all, our flag and the French flag are both red, white, and
>> blue.
>> 
>> Where do you get the idea that U.S. sovereignty is being absorbed by the U.N.?
>> Just look at current events. No matter what your views are of the international
>> intervention in Bosnia, the fact is that that intervention has just been taken
>> over *from* the U.N. *by* NATO (led by the U.S. ).
> 
> To answer that, Mr. Stein, I suggest that you read a book entitled:
> "Global Tyranny....Step By Step, The United Nations and The Emerging
> New World Order" By William F. Jasper. Western Islands Publisher, 
> Appleton, Wisconsin, 1992. Library of Congress #92-081764.
> The most telling of all the revelations to found here, sir is the speech
> made by UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali in 1992, in which
> he said: " The time of absolute and exclusive sovereignty of any nation
> or group of nations has passed" It has also been the official policy of
> the United States Government since 1961 to disarm America and create
> a UN army (State Department Publication 7277: "Freedom From War")

I hate to tell you, George, but it's a waste of effort and time to give
jews and semitophiles references.  It just gives them an opportunity to
again demonstrate WHY they make such successful lawyers these days.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 20:04:35 PST 1996
Article: 20085 of alt.revisionism
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John Baglow (ai433@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:

(snip - nothing of consequence, so I deleted it.)

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 20:20:16 PST 1996
Article: 14643 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Gandhi's ignorance (was: KT's ignorance)
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Rajiv K. Gandhi (anakin@pinc.com) writes:
> In article <4d9r69$4s76@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, speedy7@ibm.net (KT) wrote:
> 
>> anakin@pinc.com (Rajiv K. Gandhi) says:
>> 
>> >
>> >You are truly the epitome of fanatic if you think that recognizing Black
>> >History month and the birthday King (in the US) indicate that the
>> >government doesn't recognize 'white' contributions.
>> 
>> Name just *one* thing any black has contributed to Western society that
>> is worth recognizing. The two mentioned, certainly aren't. For niggers 
>> have no history worth of attention and M. L. King was fighting for the 
>> rights of his own race.
> 
> Time zones. Blood transfusions. Both invented by african americans. Worth
> recognizing.

Even assuming that your bullshit is true, Gandhi, you're overlooking
something so obvious that it makes me shudder to think that such morons as
you are on this planet:

Neither of those things would have been invented if we hadn't brought
those Stone Age left-overs here and taught them that there's more to life than idling
away on the savannahs of Africa.

> Demonstrate:
> 
> (2) that all jewish people are liberals

They PREACH liberalism, asshole, but they PRACTICE conservatism.

> (3) that the african american population has a birth rate disproportional to the
>     average national rate in the United States

Open your eyes, paki.

> (4) that the majority of crimes perpetrated upon white people is iniatiated by
>     african americans

Check any crime stats, paki.  Or just pay attention to the news.

(snip)

> Whether or not I want the white population to become a minority is
> irrelevant, although truth be told I could care less either way.

Revolt of the _untermenschen_.

> That the white race is a diminishing majority is a fact of life, irrefutable
> and irrevocable. Get over it.

Is not.  

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 14 20:43:12 PST 1996
Article: 20093 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: How to keep jews happy (was: Bigots at odds)
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> Translation: My name is Les Griswold, and I'm an impotent loser.
> 
> The Protocols were debunked as forgery decades ago.

"Debuked" by whom?

> Offer something more contemporary as evidence is all I'm asking.

No you're not.  You're a confrontational little jew interested only in
argument, so don't try to come across as an objective searcher.

Les


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"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 15 10:18:30 PST 1996
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Josh Klein (jaklein@unix.amherst.edu) writes:
>>> Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) wrote:
>>>> What does OBC stand for?
>>> 
>>> It stands for the Order of British Columbia.  Ken McVay was honored with this title by the government of that province for his work combatting
>>> hate on the internet.  As soon as the news about the OBC came out, most
>>> oif us congratulated Ken on the impressive (and well-deserved) honor.
>>> It is interesting to note , however, that Griswold et. al. got
>>> sour grapes pretty fast.  Marc Lemire was especially amusing and envious,
>>> a fact perhaps explained by the observation that the letters "OBC"
>>> are conspicuously absent from HIS name!
> 
>>And not too long after Mr. McVay was granted his "well-deserved" honour,
>>the news ALSO came out about the premier of British Columbia scamming (get
>>this!) CHARITY BINGO REVENUES to fund the provincial NDP.  What a fucking
>>hoot!  And McVay STILL has the temerity (I would say brazen idiocy) to
>>attach the letters "OBC" after his name.  Some people...
> 
> That's an outright lie, Les. Congratulations on maintaining your high
> lifetime average.

Well, Mikey, if you would prefer to set the record "straight", I'd be more
than happy to hear how Mike Harcourt is resigning because a little blue
birdy told him to.

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 15 10:47:43 PST 1996
Article: 11293 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Stewart King (slking@scws31.harvard.edu) writes:
> Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) wrote:

(snip)

> : State your evidence, please be sure to remember the white man has visited
> : every race and culture...
> 
> Well, that's not really true.  There are remote tribes in places like 
> inner Africa and the Amazon that haven't really been dealt with much.  
> And the white man has hardly Significantly Affected every culture on 
> earth.  

Hmm... true, there ARE tribes in inner Africa and the Amazon that haven't
really been influenced by the White man... it's also true that those
tribes are barely at the Stone Age level... I wonder if the two are
connected in any way... of course, pointing that out to Stewart is like
clapping with one hand, but...
 
Les


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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Something that hasn't seemed to sink into you liberals is, you can't pick
> : and choose your genes.  Only by careful application of accumulated
> : knowledge of WHAT will happen when one crosses two pure-breeds, with
> : predictable genotypes, can a desirable hybrid be obtained.  This is
> : SIGNIFICANTLY different than the hodge-podge, close-your-eyes-and-mix
> : philosophy that you guys appear to be espousing.
> 
> Point: we're talking about people. 

By George, I think she's got it!

> Whoever I choose to mix my genes with will 
> be carefully chosen based on a variety of characteristics.  If his genes 
> cosmetically match mine, that's dandy.  If they don't, it won't matter a lot, 
> because his phenotype will match mine in things like intellectual capacity.

But cosmetically  matching IS very important, because it's an indicator of
internal harmony.  Don't be a doofus.

> And I guarantee that there will be nothing hodge-podge or close-your-eyes
> about it.

Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
 
> : > The problems that exist between races are cultural, not genetic.
> : Cultural or genetic, they'd be solved by separation.
> 
> Whyfor?  Does ignoring a problem make it go away?  Does ignoring difference 
> negate the difference?

Separating the conflicting opponents keeps them from fighting, Susan.
 
> : You know, the ONLY reason you guys get so steamed about these sorts of
> : debates is that they INVûARIABLY lead to the conclusion that Whites are
> : superior, hands down.  
> 
> But... I've never seen one of these debates come to that conclusion.

Yes, you have.  You just do your best to ignore it.

> And y'all repeat yourselves a lot;

It is necessary to repeat oneself when talking to slow people, just to
make certain that they understand.  Obviously, though, types like you do
your damndest to ignore the points we make.  Have you ever thought that
THAT may be why we have to repeat ourselves "a lot"?

> : But A.C. posited an interesting idea a while ago: 
> : if an iron-clad argument could be made for White INFERIORITY, would you
> : still deny them the right to preserve their gene pool?
> 
> I deny no one the right to preserving gene pools.  I'm not going to force you to 
> procreate with anyone.  (goddess forbid... I wouldn't wish it on any woman.  But 
> that's beside the point.)  Would you still deny them the right to expand their 
> genotype base?

I would deny aliens the "right" to INVADE my gene pool.  And if weepy,
teeth-gnashing "love-thy-nigger" types would stop the "We are the world"
sing-song, perhaps more White people would realize the enormous
consequences of squandering their genes.

Les

--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 15 10:47:45 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Rachel Meredith Kadel (rkadel@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> In article <4dcndp$ea8@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
> Stewart King  wrote:
>>
>>Imagine European royalty on a larger scale.  They were tightly inbred.  
>>Someone had the hemophilia gene.  They all got hemophilia.  The larger 
>>the population, the less drastic these effects will be.  Period.  Genes 
>>from other populations are more likely to mask harmful recessive traits 
>>like hemophilia, CF, Tay Sachs, etc.  (I'm not sure if all of those are 
>>technically recessive, it's been a while since I studied this, but you 
>>get the idea.)
> 
> Hemophilia is recessive sex-linked, like red-green color-blindness.  That 
> means that a woman can carry one hemophilia gene and still be healthy, but 
> a man with a hemophilia gene has hemophilia.  So (imaginary punnet-square 
> time again) if a woman carrying hemophilia has children with a healthy 
> man, half their sons will have hemophilia, half their daughters will be 
> carriers, all the rest will be normal.  If a woman with hemophilia has 
> children with a healthy man, all the sons will have hemophilia, all the 
> daughters will be carriers.  If healthy woman has kids with a hemophiliac 
> man, all their sons will be fine, half their daughters will be carriers.  
> If a woman carrying hemophilia has kids with a hemophiliac, half their 
> children will have hemophilia and half their daughters will carry it.  If 
> a woman with hemophilia has kids with a hemophiliac, all their kids will 
> have it.  (All this is assuming no mutations, no cross-over.)  You've got 
> to have a pretty fucked-up gene pool before you get many hemophiliac women.

*sigh*

See, Susan:  THIS is why we keep repeating ourselves.

This hemophillia argument pops up every few months.  It's a PERFECT
example of how liberals ignore what IS said, and instead reply as if their
opponent had said something else, so that they can trot out their nifty
little arguments, and show off their knowledge of text-books.  Gee, sorta
like a showboating lawyer...

Look libs, anyone who EXPRESSES hemophillia (or any other gene that causes
a tragic sickness) would be kept from breeding.  Therefore, those genes
would END.  There would not be a problem of THOSE genes "hiding out", or
whatever lingo you choose to use, to pop up a few generations down the
road.  What part of that don't you understand?

>>Any whites who wish to preserve their perceived gene pool are certainly 
>>free to do so.  Any who don't care one way or the other - Stewart raises 
>>hand - are similarly liberated.  It's called freedom of reproduction, 
>>look into it and SCREAM like a billygoat.

Actually, Stewie, it's called the freedom to wallow like an animal.

Les

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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 15 10:47:46 PST 1996
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Michael Paterson (mikepat@direct.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Have I ever told you what happened to the premier of the province (British
>>Columbia) that GAVE him that award?
> 
> What happened to him Les?

He got caught scamming the revenues of charity bingoes, and forced to resign.

> I know the man personally; I'll be happy to
> pass the news on in case he hasn't heard about it yet.  I'll also be
> happy to tell him that a Canadian citizen is implicitly threateneing
> him and you know how the Horsemen just LOVE investigating people who
> threaten national leaders!

... and ignoring the rantings of someone who lives in his mommy's basement.
 
>>"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
>>to learn from someone else's experience."
> 
> Learn from this one, Les - I'm watching you like a hawk.  You of all
> people should know how tough Canadian law is on threatening behaviour.
> And yes, the Griswold story is all ready to go and I believe the
> scanner will be delivered here on Tuesday...

I'm waiting...

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 16 08:48:30 PST 1996
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> Oops. I believe that in a previous post, I said that hemophilia ONLY
> affects males. That is, of course, inaccurate. Males are far more likely
> to exhibit hemophilia, but it can affect heterozygous females as well.
> Blame the hour.

Nah, we prefer to blame it on the fact that liberals are willing to deny
reality when arguing with a "Natsee".
 
> A heterozygous girl would require that both parents carry the gene, which
> would make the father a hemophiliac--and, as noted in a previous post,
> hemophiliacs are heavily selected against, even with modern medical care. 
> 
> Les' assessment, of course, is still wildly inaccurate. Heterozygous
> females carry the hemophilia gene with no outward sign, and have a 50/50
> chance of having hemophiliac sons. The royal families of Europe early in
> this century had astronomical rates of hemophilia, and it can hardly be
> argued that this was the result of indiscriminate breeding--in fact, it
> was the direct result of an artificially limited gene pool, i.e.
> inbreeding.

*sigh*

HOW can you libs be so stupid?  Oh, never mind, the question answers itself...

Andy-panda, NO-ONE is denying that the royal families of Europe had a
terrible record when it came to inbreeding.  However, it really astounds
me (no doubt, others as well) that you liberals so persistently ignore the
OTHER HALF of what we say, namely that eugenics encompasses BOTH selective
breeding, and ELIMINATION of undesirable genes from the gene pool.  

BTW, Stewie, I capitalize certain words in the not-altogether-vain hope
that they will be RETAINED by the obviously teensy-weensy minds I'm
addressing.

Les

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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 16 08:48:30 PST 1996
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Stewart King (slking@scws34.harvard.edu) writes:
> Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) wrote:
> 
> : The Indian civilization was started by the Arya, an Aryan people.
> 
> I've yet to get this straight, but I'm under the impression that white 
> people aren't technically Aryan.  

No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
dim-bulbs.

Les

--
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to learn from someone else's experience."
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Stewart King (slking@scws34.harvard.edu) writes:
> Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) wrote:
> 
> : The Indian civilization was started by the Arya, an Aryan people.
> 
> I've yet to get this straight, but I'm under the impression that white 
> people aren't technically Aryan.  

No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
dim-bulbs.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 16 10:19:42 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Let's imagine that Alec Baldwin has hemophillia.  Alec Baldwin is kept
> : from reproducing.  Therefore, Alec Baldwin's genes are NOT passed on to
> : ANYBODY, and THAT particular string of hemophillia is eliminated from the
> : gene pool.  That's not to say that there will be NO hemophillia in the
> : next generation, but there will be NONE attributable to Alec Baldwin.  Get
> : it now?
> 
> Yes, but that won't eliminate it from the gene pool. 

Did I say, or even suggest, that it WOULD?  Re-read the sentence above,
where I said, "That's not to say that there will be NO hemophillia in the
next generation..."  You know, you liberals are hell on the blood pressure.

> It won't even decrease 
> the percentage of occurrence, I think.  Not only do recessive traits not 
> breed out of the gene pool, fatal recessive traits don't breed out either.  I 
> think fatal dominant traits would, because there wouldn't be carriers, but 
> that's different.

Actually,  genes can now be detected in the cells, idiot.  An acquaintance
of mine had herself tested for MS, because she wanted to have a kid, but
didn't want to saddle it with being a carrier (or a victim of) MS.  Happy
for her, all the lights came up green, and away she went.

> : Loaded question, since you obviously don't agree with very much of what I
> : have to say on genetic influences and inheritance anyway.  I get the
> : distinct feeling that you're just trying to create another opening for you
> : to show off you AWESOME genetic knowledge.
> 
> And I get the feeling you're trying real hard to mask your completel lack of 
> genetic knowledge.

Think what you like, you arrogant prig.

Les



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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca), apparently upset at my quips, 
writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote (in "reply" to H.Katz):
> 
>>Maybe because Mr. Graves recognizes infantile name-calling
> 
> Mr. Griswold, you truly do crack me!  This coming from the guy who has
> described me as "drooling" and reads so well he thinks my name is 
> "Fester"!!!  

Laura, Laura, Laura...

I describe you as "drooling", because you apparently are, and I call you
"Fester", because, well, it's funny.  Don't get your shorts in a knot.

Les


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Y Reichsfeld (YREICHSF@MECHANICAL.uwaterloo.ca) writes:

(snip)

> ARGH, the Les creature is back!! And as usual drivels his distortions and 
> lies. What exactly do Mike Harcourts political views have to do with the 
> award? 

But we weren't DISCUSSING Mr. Harcourt's political views, we were discussing 
the charity bingo scams.

> I'll tell you, absolutely nothing, he is not the one who decides the 
> identity of the recipients.

So I've been told.

> Oh, and by the way, several years ago Mr. Ernest 
> Manning( father of Preston Manning ) received the the Bnei Brith award for 
> human rights, I don't have to tell you about the Manning family politics

No, you'd rather smear Manning by implication.

Does anyone remember that truly pathetic slumming Presto! did in late
'90/early '91 as he sought a jewish member of the Reform Party, so's he
could stifle any claims that the Reform Party was "anti-semitic"?

(snip - Mr. Retchsfield's pathetic attempts at insults deleted)

Les


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Susan Groppi (groppi@husc7.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> : > I don't think the "ability" to produce sophisticated masonry architecture
> : > has anything to do with "racial superiority".  In fact, I would argue that
> : > "ability" has little to do with it.  More important is the existence of 
> : > social and political institutions that use monumental architecture to 
> : > promote and reinforce those institutions.
> 
> : Then you're monumentally stupid.  Yes, social and political institutions
> : are significant, but they cannot INSTILL an ability that is not there. 
> : This includes architechtural ability.
> 
> Les, you're being a twit.  Architectural ability is inborn?  That's 
> insane.  

To a large degree, yes, architechtural ability IS inborn.  I know that
this will cause a lot of teeth-gnashing among you "Everyone is equal!"
shits, but hey, there you go.

> But, for the nonce, let's pretend that I am a person living in an area 
> with a) no large stones lying about or b) no large buildings needed.  
> (either case is fairly likely in early societies... you don't find a need 
> for large buildings until you either get cities or get religion, and not 
> all areas of the world have granite quarries accessible.)  If I have this 
> Stonemason Gene, who's going to know?  I'm certainly not.

Susan, Susan, Susan...

Gawd, you libs are so STUPID!

WHEN have I EVER denied that environment plays PART of the factor
determining one's abilities?  NEVER.  But all the stones lying around and
all the need for large buildings is NOT going to turn the hypothetical
Susan into an architect.

Congratulations, Susan.  In the few short weeks that you've been posting
here, you've caught up to and passed everyone else on your side for sheer
stupidity.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 17 15:11:27 PST 1996
Article: 11590 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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Stewart King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart King (slking@scws34.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
> : > I've yet to get this straight, but I'm under the impression that white 
> : > people aren't technically Aryan.  
> 
> : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> : dim-bulbs.
> 
> How's it defined?

Check out the "National Socialism Primer" for an excellent definition that
even liberals can't refute.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 17 15:11:28 PST 1996
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Susan Groppi (groppi@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> : dim-bulbs.
> 
> Okay.  Just to sort this out.
> 
> Which of the following ethnic groups are White?  Yes or no answers.  Some 
> are obvious, but I want to make sure I don't miss anything.

All right, Susan, I'll assume that you're asking seriously, and you won't
get all cutesy on me and come back with shit like "Well, what about a West
Indian in London?"

> 1.  English
Yes

> 2.  Irish
Yes

> 3.  French
Yes

> 4.  Swiss
Yes

> 5.  Spanish
Some are, some aren't.

> 6.  North African
You're kidding, right?
> 7.  Egyptian
Not anymore

> 8.  Arab
Semites

> 9.  Bosnian
Some are, some aren't.  Bosnian is a NATIONAL term, not a racial one.

> 10.  Slovenian
Mostly

> 11.  Slavic
Most are

> 12.  Armenian
Semites

> 13.  Indian
I assume you mean East Indians, not woo-woo indians; no.

> 14.  Russian
Yes

> 15.  Filipino
ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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Susan Groppi (groppi@husc7.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> : > I don't think the "ability" to produce sophisticated masonry architecture
> : > has anything to do with "racial superiority".  In fact, I would argue that
> : > "ability" has little to do with it.  More important is the existence of 
> : > social and political institutions that use monumental architecture to 
> : > promote and reinforce those institutions.
> 
> : Then you're monumentally stupid.  Yes, social and political institutions
> : are significant, but they cannot INSTILL an ability that is not there. 
> : This includes architechtural ability.
> 
> Les, you're being a twit.  Architectural ability is inborn?  That's 
> insane.  

To a large degree, yes, architechtural ability IS inborn.  I know that
this will cause a lot of teeth-gnashing among you "Everyone is equal!"
shits, but hey, there you go.

> But, for the nonce, let's pretend that I am a person living in an area 
> with a) no large stones lying about or b) no large buildings needed.  
> (either case is fairly likely in early societies... you don't find a need 
> for large buildings until you either get cities or get religion, and not 
> all areas of the world have granite quarries accessible.)  If I have this 
> Stonemason Gene, who's going to know?  I'm certainly not.

Susan, Susan, Susan...

Gawd, you libs are so STUPID!

WHEN have I EVER denied that environment plays PART of the factor
determining one's abilities?  NEVER.  But all the stones lying around and
all the need for large buildings is NOT going to turn the hypothetical
Susan into an architect.

Congratulations, Susan.  In the few short weeks that you've been posting
here, you've caught up to and passed everyone else on your side for sheer
stupidity.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 17 15:16:21 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Week In Review, 1/6/96 to 1/13/96
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article ,
> atticus@mindspring.com (Andy Walton) wrote:
> 
> * In article <4d9emn$ren@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (RaCiAL ThEoRiSt) wrote:
> * 
> *   :        marlow was pretty down and out about getting the boot by his
> *   :girlfriend, but i cheered him up by pointing out that they ain't quit
> *   :making white women and gave him a pep talk.  the next night i went
> *   :down to five points and caught marc in a coffee shop with one of my
> *   :prospects, and i thought my pep talk had backfired on me.  i hadn't
> *   :expected him to poach, especially not on one of his good friends, not
> *   :to mention a fellow CLOC'er. 
> 
> You should have tied a bell around her neck or had her branded, dipshit.
> I'll bet that a few phonecalls in the middle of the night to her would
> keep her from straying.

Uh-oh!  Is Crazy letting slip yet more clues about her first marriage?
 
>  but i always believe in trying to make
> *   :the best of a situation, so i came home and called marc's
> *   :ex-girlfriend and asked her did she want to go see 'get shorty' and
> *   :she said sure, and so i took her out friday night and we had a good
> *   :old time. 
> 
> Sheesh. In my younger years, I don't remember anyone ever using that line
> on me. No wonder you never get any new notches on your gunbelt.

Are you telling us that ANY OTHER LINE was enough to get you in the sack?
 
Les


--
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to learn from someone else's experience."
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Subject: Re: Eco-friendly Les! (was: The jewdicial system)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> George Graves  wrote:
> 
> [talking to Les Griswold, while ignoring my earlier questions for evidence...
> so what else is new]
>  
>>Les, these people keep asking for proof of a conspiracy! They want names
>>dates, events. They are so dumb that they don't even realize that if this
>>information could be had by simple research, IT WOULDN"T BE A 
>>CONSPIRACY (not the successful one that it is, anyway)!
>>By the way, you probably have reached the same conclusions that I have
>>reached by the same methods. It just goes to prove that if one opens ones'
>>eyes to just the POSSIBILITY, the empiracle evidence flows in like the
>>North Atlantic through the hole in the Titanic.
> 
> Hmmmm, let's carry on with this analogy.  The Titanic is the "theory" that
> a worldwide zionist conspiracy is busily scheming to take over the world.
> The ZOG conspiracy is working to this end by flooding North America
> with "nonwhite" immigrants and thereby inevitably creating social unrest
> that can only end in race wars to the death, which will allow ZOG to sweep
> in and take over.  One of the ways it contributes actively to creating social
> unrest is by placing members of the Jewish faith in powerful positions where
> they can in turn put "nonwhites" in positions of authority over "whites".

Jews are a race, not a faith.  Nor are they white.  You know these things. 
Why are you pretending that you don't?

> Les describes this as intolerable.  Neither Les nor George is willing or, by
> George's own admission it seems, able to provide any evidence to substantiate
> these claims.

BZZT, wrong!  When we DO provide evidence, you people take a, shall we
say, shit-fit?  

I suggest that you pay a little more attention to what George has to say about 
the secretive nature of conspiracies, Fester, and stop this cutesy "Absence of
evidence is evidence of absence!" schtick.

Les


--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 17 15:16:22 PST 1996
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Pamela Scott (erica@iglou2.iglou.com) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)

>>Julia, I understand your passionate attachment to the "race is a myth"
>>myth, but it was a hypothetical situation, okay?
> 
>>No, you're correct, there IS no iron-clad, OBJECTIVE argument for the
>>superiority or inferiority of one race or the other.  It's all entirely
>>subjective.  However, BY OUR STANDARDS, the negroes are inferior.  By
>>THEIR standards, perhaps we are (although I think that such arguments stem
>>more from fear and envy than anything else).  The point remains, however, that
>>the two races were NEVER meant to live side-by-side, or to be judged by
>>each other's standards.  Further, NO animals in Nature's realm (and that
>>INCLUDES human beings) can pick-and-choose their genes, so arguments about
>>"hybrid vigour" are purely academic.  The ONLY way one could insure
>>favourable genotypes from negro-white matings would be to CAREFULLY
>>monitor the material going into the mix.  Otherwise, you'd end up with a
>>wretched mass of Brown humanoids.
> 
> It's funny that you say blacks are inferior and were never meant to live 
> side-by-side with whites. 

Funny and true.

> It was the ancestors you revere so much that made it so.  Do you think
> Africans came over by themselves? 

True, they couldn't even organize a fart after a bean dinner, let alone a
trans-Atlantic voyage.

> (Well actually they came to America before Columbus, but chose not to stay.)

Please, let's not start with the "Great Negro Achievements That Were
Somehow Never Recorded" (tm) arguments.
   
> Do you think they asked the captains of the slaveships to capture them 
> and take them to America?  So, if you believe that whites and blacks 
> should not be together, blame your "superior" ancestors.

I do blame my ancestors, for not having a correct grasp of the racial
situation, and allowing themsleves to be hoodwinked by the jews into
believing the lies about racial equality.  But I also admire them for
REALIZING their mistakes, and trying to do something about it (ie,
segregation,  repatriation - did you know that the other half of Lincoln's
policy of freeing the negroes was to send them back to Africa?)

Les


--
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Stewart King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart King (slking@scws34.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
> : > I've yet to get this straight, but I'm under the impression that white 
> : > people aren't technically Aryan.  
> 
> : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> : dim-bulbs.
> 
> How's it defined?

Check out the "National Socialism Primer" for an excellent definition that
even liberals can't refute.

Les


--
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Susan Groppi (groppi@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> : dim-bulbs.
> 
> Okay.  Just to sort this out.
> 
> Which of the following ethnic groups are White?  Yes or no answers.  Some 
> are obvious, but I want to make sure I don't miss anything.

All right, Susan, I'll assume that you're asking seriously, and you won't
get all cutesy on me and come back with shit like "Well, what about a West
Indian in London?"

> 1.  English
Yes

> 2.  Irish
Yes

> 3.  French
Yes

> 4.  Swiss
Yes

> 5.  Spanish
Some are, some aren't.

> 6.  North African
You're kidding, right?
> 7.  Egyptian
Not anymore

> 8.  Arab
Semites

> 9.  Bosnian
Some are, some aren't.  Bosnian is a NATIONAL term, not a racial one.

> 10.  Slovenian
Mostly

> 11.  Slavic
Most are

> 12.  Armenian
Semites

> 13.  Indian
I assume you mean East Indians, not woo-woo indians; no.

> 14.  Russian
Yes

> 15.  Filipino
ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Les


--
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Subject: Racial vs. national (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Susan Groppi (groppi@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
>>> Which of the following ethnic groups are White?  Yes or no answers.  Some 
>>> are obvious, but I want to make sure I don't miss anything.

(snip)

>>> 5.  Spanish
>>Some are, some aren't.
> 
> Which ones are "white" and what are the rest?

Quite obviously, the ones without any Moors in their family trees, Fester,
are white.  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

>>> 9.  Bosnian
>>Some are, some aren't.  Bosnian is a NATIONAL term, not a racial one.
> 
> Are not English, Swiss, Irish and French also "national" rather than
> "racial" terms?

English, Swiss, Irish and French are both national AND racial terms.  But
"Bosnian" is not a racial term, it's an adjective to which another adjective
is always attached, unless one is referring to the bastard government of Bosnia.

>>> 14.  Russian
>>Yes
>>
> Even "black Russians"?  

Please, don't be an utter fool.

Actually, I kind of admire the fact that you didn't go on at great length
about the "black Irish".

> Please explain why "Bosnian" is a "national" term, but "French" is not.

I already did.

> In fact, how about explaining what the difference is between "national"
> and "racial" terms (or do you mean categories)?

I already did.  It's not MY fault that you're too slow to understand
simple words.
 
> Since you want to get rid of all "nonwhites", this is a question of some
> practical importance.  Obviously you won't want to get rid of all people
> of Spanish or Slavic origin.  But I sure would like to hear you explain
> how you distinguish the desirables from the undesirables.

No, you wouldn't.  You just want yet another opportunity to show off how
clever you are by lancing the "Natsees".  Sorry, Fester.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 00:59:30 PST 1996
Article: 11640 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Black vs. White crime
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I heard on the radio yesterday that negro arrest and convictions in
Ontario have gone up by 240% over the last ten years, while white 
arrest/conviction rates in Ontario have gone up by 23%.  Now, of course,
the newspapers are being strangely silent on this one; I wonder why.  In
any event, I just wanted to point something out:  negro arrest/conviction
rates have gone up in Ontario by TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY percent in the last
ten years.  Some nabob is going to blame it on racism, of course.  But the
last ten years in Ontario, the government has been Liberal/NDP, and
especially the latter has enacted some of the most "progressive" laws re:
race relations.  Seems like those laws haven't done much good! (heck, even
someone with an 85 I.Q. would be able to figure out that negroes were
better off BEFORE all this race-relations crap came along)

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 01:00:46 PST 1996
Article: 15203 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: THE US OWES A LOT TO THE BLACK PEOPLE
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Socialist Black Man (an479493@anon.penet.fi) writes:
>  alt.politics.nationalism.white
> 
> The US would not be so rich today if it wasn't for the
> labor of the black people who grew and picked the
> cotton in the plantations and made export dollars
> for their tyranical white masters.

Yes, the U.S. DOES owe negroes a lot... like a free boat ride back to
Africa if they keep whining.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 01:00:47 PST 1996
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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:

(snip)

Some negrophile: 
>> > Do you think they asked the captains of the slaveships to capture them
>> > and take them to America?  So, if you believe that whites and blacks
>> > should not be together, blame your "superior" ancestors.

Moi:
>> I do blame my ancestors, for not having a correct grasp of the racial
>> situation, and allowing themsleves to be hoodwinked by the jews into
>> believing the lies about racial equality.  But I also admire them for
>> REALIZING their mistakes, and trying to do something about it (ie,
>> segregation,  repatriation - did you know that the other half of Lincoln's
>> policy of freeing the negroes was to send them back to Africa?)
> ===================================================================
> Yeah, Les, we can thank John Wilkes Booth for putting and end to that
> policy. BTW, have you ever heard that the Booths were Jewish? I have.
> Don't know if old Junius Titus Booth (the old man) was a Heb or not. But
> if he was, then his son's actions vis-a-vis Lincoln, make more sense.

Yeah, I read that his family name was originally "Botha".  I disagree,
though, that he was just irked at Lincoln's plans for repatriation, and
that he was just showing the usual semitic lack of balance that you seem
to imply.  Rather, I believe that he DELIBERATELY killed Lincoln, because
Certain Interests didn't WANT the negroes taken out of our midst.  Now, I
wonder who that might be...?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 01:00:48 PST 1996
Article: 15205 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Racial vs. national (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Susan Groppi (groppi@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
>>> Which of the following ethnic groups are White?  Yes or no answers.  Some 
>>> are obvious, but I want to make sure I don't miss anything.

(snip)

>>> 5.  Spanish
>>Some are, some aren't.
> 
> Which ones are "white" and what are the rest?

Quite obviously, the ones without any Moors in their family trees, Fester,
are white.  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

>>> 9.  Bosnian
>>Some are, some aren't.  Bosnian is a NATIONAL term, not a racial one.
> 
> Are not English, Swiss, Irish and French also "national" rather than
> "racial" terms?

English, Swiss, Irish and French are both national AND racial terms.  But
"Bosnian" is not a racial term, it's an adjective to which another adjective
is always attached, unless one is referring to the bastard government of Bosnia.

>>> 14.  Russian
>>Yes
>>
> Even "black Russians"?  

Please, don't be an utter fool.

Actually, I kind of admire the fact that you didn't go on at great length
about the "black Irish".

> Please explain why "Bosnian" is a "national" term, but "French" is not.

I already did.

> In fact, how about explaining what the difference is between "national"
> and "racial" terms (or do you mean categories)?

I already did.  It's not MY fault that you're too slow to understand
simple words.
 
> Since you want to get rid of all "nonwhites", this is a question of some
> practical importance.  Obviously you won't want to get rid of all people
> of Spanish or Slavic origin.  But I sure would like to hear you explain
> how you distinguish the desirables from the undesirables.

No, you wouldn't.  You just want yet another opportunity to show off how
clever you are by lancing the "Natsees".  Sorry, Fester.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 01:00:49 PST 1996
Article: 15206 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Black vs. White crime
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I heard on the radio yesterday that negro arrest and convictions in
Ontario have gone up by 240% over the last ten years, while white 
arrest/conviction rates in Ontario have gone up by 23%.  Now, of course,
the newspapers are being strangely silent on this one; I wonder why.  In
any event, I just wanted to point something out:  negro arrest/conviction
rates have gone up in Ontario by TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY percent in the last
ten years.  Some nabob is going to blame it on racism, of course.  But the
last ten years in Ontario, the government has been Liberal/NDP, and
especially the latter has enacted some of the most "progressive" laws re:
race relations.  Seems like those laws haven't done much good! (heck, even
someone with an 85 I.Q. would be able to figure out that negroes were
better off BEFORE all this race-relations crap came along)

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 07:25:48 PST 1996
Article: 11684 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Did I say, or even suggest, that it WOULD?  Re-read the sentence above,
> : where I said, "That's not to say that there will be NO hemophillia in the
> : next generation..."  You know, you liberals are hell on the blood pressure.
> 
> I know.  But if it won't decrease the amount of hemophilia in future 
> generations by any appreciable amount, why on earth should the people be 
> restricted from having children?  What are you getting at here?

What I'm "getting at", Susie, is that just because we can't GUARANTEE that
we can cure 100% of hemophilia (and other genetic diseases) in ONE
generation, is no reason to not do what we can.  It's this "all or
nothing" mentality of liberals that causes the most anger, I'll wager.

> : Actually,  genes can now be detected in the cells, idiot.  An acquaintance
> : of mine had herself tested for MS, because she wanted to have a kid, but
> : didn't want to saddle it with being a carrier (or a victim of) MS.  Happy
> : for her, all the lights came up green, and away she went.
> 
> The Non-Sequitur Lizard says: "Whank!"
> 
> What are you talking about?  Or rather, what's the relevance?

The relevance IS, Susie, that it supported my point (that genes can be
detected in the cells, idiot), and that RESPONSIBLE people would do so. 
Of course, responsibility and liberal don't go together in the same
sentence.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 07:25:49 PST 1996
Article: 11685 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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Subject: Re: Crazy jumps in the fray! (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
 
 Moi: 
> * > : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> * > : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> * > : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> * > : dim-bulbs.
 
Stewart King:
> * > How's it defined?
 
>Moi, again:
> * Check out the "National Socialism Primer" for an excellent definition that
> * even liberals can't refute.
> 
> Heh. Well, I guess you need two different definitions then, right? The
> first for people who were born in Europe, and a second for people whose
> ancestors have been mucking around with God knows who or what in America.
> 
> You made the following assertion about defining Aryan awhile back:
> 
> "I can too define the Aryan race.  It's only quibblers like you who assume
> that, once defined, we can't be flexible.  Sorry, we can."

> * Les
> who is still bobbing, weaving, scuttling and covering his ass daily on
> alt.white.inbred.losers
 
... but at leat I'm not bragging about what would have gotten me in the
sack, back when people still wanted to get me in the sack.
 
Les
> 
> --
> "Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
> to learn from someone else's experience."
> 		-- someone


--
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 07:27:47 PST 1996
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Pamela Scott (erica@iglou2.iglou.com) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:
>>Pamela Scott (erica@iglou2.iglou.com) writes:
>>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)

>>> It was the ancestors you revere so much that made it so.  Do you think
>>> Africans came over by themselves? 
> 
>>True, they couldn't even organize a fart after a bean dinner, let alone a
>>trans-Atlantic voyage.
> 
> Columbus was white and he wasn't too great at navigation.  He got lost 
> and believed himself to be in India when he arrived here.

Uh, excuse me, Pammy, but Columbus thought he was in India because he
couldn't conceive of another land-mass in between Europe and Asia.  Today
we laugh at his ignorance (which further exploration dispelled), but back
in the 15th century, his conclusion that he was in India was perfectly valid.
 
>>> (Well actually they came to America before Columbus, but chose not to stay.)
> 
>>Please, let's not start with the "Great Negro Achievements That Were
>>Somehow Never Recorded" (tm) arguments.
> 
> Actually, it's a well-known fact that has been recorded by historians.  
> Everyone knows that there were plenty of people here prior to the English.

Yes, the Vikings, the French, the Spanish...

>>> Do you think they asked the captains of the slaveships to capture them 
>>> and take them to America?  So, if you believe that whites and blacks 
>>> should not be together, blame your "superior" ancestors.
> 
>>I do blame my ancestors, for not having a correct grasp of the racial
>>situation, and allowing themsleves to be hoodwinked by the jews into
>>believing the lies about racial equality.  But I also admire them for
>>REALIZING their mistakes, and trying to do something about it (ie,
>>segregation,  repatriation - did you know that the other half of Lincoln's
>>policy of freeing the negroes was to send them back to Africa?)
> 
> Thanks for that bulletin Les, but that's something that you learn in 
> every middle school American History class.

Sure, sure... just like every American school child learns in great detail
EXACTLY HOW MANY GIs were killed in WWII.  The fact is, and this probably
drives you nuts, that only CERTAIN VIEW-POINTS are taught in school at ANY
level.  How many people, for example, know about what Lincoln said in the
Lincoln-Douglass debates in the late 1850's, where he expressed a desire
to get rid of the negroes?  He took a position that was, shall we say,
"racist".

Just say the word, Pam.  If you're ignorant of them, I will be happy to
post them for you.

Les



--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Did I say, or even suggest, that it WOULD?  Re-read the sentence above,
> : where I said, "That's not to say that there will be NO hemophillia in the
> : next generation..."  You know, you liberals are hell on the blood pressure.
> 
> I know.  But if it won't decrease the amount of hemophilia in future 
> generations by any appreciable amount, why on earth should the people be 
> restricted from having children?  What are you getting at here?

What I'm "getting at", Susie, is that just because we can't GUARANTEE that
we can cure 100% of hemophilia (and other genetic diseases) in ONE
generation, is no reason to not do what we can.  It's this "all or
nothing" mentality of liberals that causes the most anger, I'll wager.

> : Actually,  genes can now be detected in the cells, idiot.  An acquaintance
> : of mine had herself tested for MS, because she wanted to have a kid, but
> : didn't want to saddle it with being a carrier (or a victim of) MS.  Happy
> : for her, all the lights came up green, and away she went.
> 
> The Non-Sequitur Lizard says: "Whank!"
> 
> What are you talking about?  Or rather, what's the relevance?

The relevance IS, Susie, that it supported my point (that genes can be
detected in the cells, idiot), and that RESPONSIBLE people would do so. 
Of course, responsibility and liberal don't go together in the same
sentence.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 07:27:50 PST 1996
Article: 15286 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Crazy jumps in the fray! (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
 
 Moi: 
> * > : No surprise there, but I get the impression that you're being deliberately
> * > : dense on this, right along with the liberals who INSIST on maintaining
> * > : that White is a nationalistic or linguistic term.  It's a RACIAL term, you
> * > : dim-bulbs.
 
Stewart King:
> * > How's it defined?
 
>Moi, again:
> * Check out the "National Socialism Primer" for an excellent definition that
> * even liberals can't refute.
> 
> Heh. Well, I guess you need two different definitions then, right? The
> first for people who were born in Europe, and a second for people whose
> ancestors have been mucking around with God knows who or what in America.
> 
> You made the following assertion about defining Aryan awhile back:
> 
> "I can too define the Aryan race.  It's only quibblers like you who assume
> that, once defined, we can't be flexible.  Sorry, we can."

> * Les
> who is still bobbing, weaving, scuttling and covering his ass daily on
> alt.white.inbred.losers
 
... but at leat I'm not bragging about what would have gotten me in the
sack, back when people still wanted to get me in the sack.
 
Les
> 
> --
> "Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
> to learn from someone else's experience."
> 		-- someone


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 09:02:11 PST 1996
Article: 28916 of news.admin.net-abuse.misc
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: This is absolutely disgusting (CLOC & asl)
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RaCiAL ThEoRiSt (xyz@scsn.net) writes:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
> 
>>I went over to alt.support.loneliness last night.  I HOPED Quittner was
>>mistaken or lying.  He wasn't.  It made me sick.  What you are doing is
>>the equivalent of raping civilians.  I will NOT tolerate it.
> 
> quittner's story was on the money except for the part he left out
> about how we're in this newsgroup to help lonely people.  and if you
> have any concern for lonely people, you'll help too,  milt.

Like HELL you post to help lonely people, or for any other legitimate
purpose.  You're just here to screw around, and make a name for yourself
and CLOC.  I think it's disgusting.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 00:00:00 PST 1996
Article: 11709 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Week In Review, 1/6/96 to 1/13/96
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les
> Griswold) wrote:
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > You should have tied a bell around her neck or had her branded, dipshit.
> * > I'll bet that a few phonecalls in the middle of the night to her would
> * > keep her from straying.
> * 
> * Uh-oh!  Is Crazy letting slip yet more clues about her first marriage?
> 
> Not at all. I was just offering a few downhome dating tips to R.C., since
> he seems to strike out so often with women. The branding and bell around
> the neck refers to his poaching comment.

And to what does the "phone calls in the middle of the night" refer?

R.T.: 
> * > *   :but i always believe in trying to make
> * > *   :the best of a situation, so i came home and called marc's
> * > *   :ex-girlfriend and asked her did she want to go see 'get shorty' and
> * > *   :she said sure, and so i took her out friday night and we had a good
> * > *   :old time. 
> * > 
> * > Sheesh. In my younger years, I don't remember anyone ever using that line
> * > on me. No wonder you never get any new notches on your gunbelt.
> * 
> * Are you telling us that ANY OTHER LINE was enough to get you in the sack?
> 
> Not at all. I was just expressing that using the term "get shorty" might
> not be the most effective way to seduce a woman. I'm sure that R.C. knows
> that I'm just poking fun at his dating exploits in a good-natured manner.
> Perhaps you should try and cultivate a sense of humor, cockroach-boy. Even
> R.C. knows how to laugh at himself.

Sure, sure, Crazy...

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 08:49:27 PST 1996
Article: 11755 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Quebec (was: Mark S. sticks up for miscegenation!)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> 
>>The French/English confrontation is a False Fight, meant to draw the
>>attention of otherwise racialist-minded francophones and anglophones away
>>from the threat that is common to BOTH cultures (which, BTW, are different
>>facets of the SAME race):  the jews.
> 
> A couple of things here puzzle me, and perhaps you could answer a couple of
> questions and clear up the confusion (while I quietly drool away).

I really got you with that droolong comment, didn't I?

> First, my understanding is that most Jews in Quebec are AGAINST Quebec
> separation, rather than favouring it.  

1)  That's because many jews are (mis)identified with the Anglophone majority.

2)  Why are you surprised to see jews on BOTH sides of the argument?  As a
supplementary question, don't you think the best way to CONTROL the
opposition is to BECOME the opposition?
 See, for example, Mordechai Richler's
> "Oh Canada, Oh Quebec", recall Jacques Parizeau's anger attribution of the
> Pequistes' defeat to "gold and the ethnic vote". 

That's "money", not "gold".  And by "ethnics", Jacques didn't mean
non-francophones, he meant non-Whites.  If he had MEANT Anglophones, I'm
sure he would have SAID Anglophones.

> But you seem to be
> saying that Jews are behind the separatist movement in Quebec.  Is this
> indeed what you are saying, and if it is, please outline for me the
> evidence that supports this conclusion?

Empirical.  

You know, Fester, this is really funny, as in ha-ha funny.  You twits
scream long n' loud for "evidence", then when it is provided, you rush to
argue that it is not significant.  An example:

When Michael Eisner bought ABC in August 1995, you twits just shrugged
your shoulders and said "So?", dismissing it as evidence of jewish control
of media.  So, essentially, there is NO way to provide evidence that would
satisfy any of you.
 
> Second, the term "anglophone" refers to people whose first language is
> English.  It has nothing to do with either culture or race.  Anglophones
> come in all colours and cultures.

Unfortunately, this is true.

> Most Canadian Jews are anglophones.
> What is a "facet of ... [a] race"?  Could you please define for me what
> you mean by this concept?  Is it biological? Cultural? Linguistic?  Some
> combination of these?

Yeah, that last thing.  But YOU droolers use linguistic arguments when it
suits you, arguing that because people speak the same language, they must
be the same in all other respects.  Patently false.

> Thank you.

You're welcome.

Les
 


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to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 08:49:28 PST 1996
Article: 11756 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: The twat speaks up! (was: Mark S. sticks up for miscegenation!)
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>   :The French/English confrontation is a False Fight, meant to draw the
>   :attention of otherwise racialist-minded francophones and anglophones away
>   :from the threat that is common to BOTH cultures (which, BTW, are different
>   :facets of the SAME race):  the jews.
> 
> We've already been blessed with your theories on WWI and WWII. I woud love
> to hear your theory of how the Jews caused Greeks to turn on Greeks in the
> Peloppenesian (SP?) War.

Gee, Andy-panda, I don't recall mentioning ANYTHING about the Peloponesian
(sp?) War.  In fact, looking up there, I don't see anything about Greeks
at all, in MY message.  Time to take those pills again, isn't it?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 08:49:29 PST 1996
Article: 11757 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Racial vs. national (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip)

>>>>> 5.  Spanish
>>>>Some are, some aren't.
>>> 
>>> Which ones are "white" and what are the rest?
>>
>>Quite obviously, the ones without any Moors in their family trees, Fester,
>>are white.  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
> 
> So how do you know which Spaniards have Moors in their family trees?
> Do you ask for a genealogy?  What happens if someone doesn't have
> a genealogy?

I thought you were above being all cutesy.  Guess I was wrong.
 
>>>>> 9.  Bosnian
>>>>Some are, some aren't.  Bosnian is a NATIONAL term, not a racial one.
>>> 
>>> Are not English, Swiss, Irish and French also "national" rather than
>>> "racial" terms?
>>
>>English, Swiss, Irish and French are both national AND racial terms.  But
>>"Bosnian" is not a racial term,
> 
> So anyone who is a citizen of England (i.e., English), Switzerland (i.e.,
> Swiss), Ireland (i.e., Irish) or France (i.e., French) is white?

Yup, I was wrong.  I stated in my original post that I hoped you wouldn't
get all cutesy and reply with some shit like that, but I can see qite
clearly that you're leading up to something like "Well, what about a
(non-White) in England, Switzerland, Ireland, or France?"  Save it.

Les



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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 08:49:31 PST 1996
Article: 11758 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Crazy jumps in the fray! (was: Stewart King the clueless)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)
 
C.J.:
> * > * Les
> * > who is still bobbing, weaving, scuttling and covering his ass daily on
> * > alt.white.inbred.losers
> *  
> * ... but at leat I'm not bragging about what would have gotten me in the
> * sack, back when people still wanted to get me in the sack.
> 
> Oh hell, Les, let's see what your broodsow looks like after she's cranked
> out a dozen babies for the white race. You'll have 'em crawling all over
> you till you're both sixty years old, while my Aryan studmuffin and I are
> still chasing each other around our house any stinkin' time we feel like
> it. What a putz. 

Those stretch-marks really getting you down?  Man, you must have one HELL
of a sex-life, considering how much you talk about it.

Crazy Jeannie goes to the doctor.  After examining her, he tells her that
she has to give up half her sex life.  So Crazy says, "Which half -
thinking about it, or talking about it?"

Les


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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 19 08:49:32 PST 1996
Article: 11759 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
> Hey, I kinda like that one.

Why, you're welcome.

(snip)
 
> : The reason I called you a "starry-eyed one-worlder" is because you
> : CONSTANTLY referred to hypothetical situations as the ONLY basis for your
> : arguments.  
> 
> And the quoted passages of archaeological evidence from anthropology 
> textbooks?

The books were a load of shit.  Plain and simple.
 
> : I referred to Mr. Baldwin simply to illustrate a point for
> : Fester, althought I now realize that it was a wasted effort.  Don't worry,
> : I won't make that mistake again.
> 
> We're not denying that Baldwin's line would end.  We're pointing out that 
> other bits of his family would carry on the gene anyhow.  If you want to 
> stop them from breeding, fine, say so (as I think you do below).  By this 
> time, considering all the "harmful" genes floating around out there, 
> you're telling a sizable fraction of the population they can't 
> reproduce.  They're not going to like you very much.

Tough.  What's my goal here (hypothetically speaking):  to get rid of some
harmful genes, or to win the Miss Congeniality contest?

> Furthermore, some genes are closely linked.  What if (HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION
> ALERT - CLOSE YOUR MIND NOW) it turns out that 
> there's some neat gene which occurs mainly in hemophilia carriers (this 
> sort of linkage does happen), and if we breed all the hemophilia out of the 
> population we lose that gene as well, which would have provided some 
> great benefit to the women carriers who weren't even expressing 
> hemophilia?  There's no way to predict this sort of thing.  It's safest 
> to let nature take its course in this regard.  

Well, IF it turns out that there IS a nifty/desirable gene linked with
hemophilia, THEN we'll deal with the situation.  Really, Stewie, THIS is
why I keep saying "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time
he jumped".

Y'know, that same argument could be used to argue for the release of
Clifford Oleson (a really sleazy serial killer who preyed on children): 
he MIGHT contribute something positive to society if we released him, so
let's release him and find out.
 
> And anyway, if people want to have children, even knowing the risk of 
> hemophilia, I consider that their right. 

And I consider it MY right not to have to support people who, through
no fault of their own, but through the selfishness of their parents, can't
support themselves.

> If they want to do selective 
> abortion or something like that, I'm fine with that too, but Society 
> isn't in charge o' my genes, no sir.

Like it or not, Stewie, your genes ARE being controlled, and always will
be.  Right now, you're under the influence of a _Weltanschauung_ that says
ANYONE can breed with ANYONE, and genetic wretches are more valuable than
genetically healthy babies.

> : > And there will be lots of little carriers under the gene bed waiting to 
> : > jump out and grab the next generation anyway.
> 
> : DUH, Stewie!  So, of COURSE we're only going to concentrate forevermore on
> : Mr. Baldwin, and Mr. Baldwin alone. :-) 
> 
> Les, you have a really GREAT sense of humor.  And a very SEXY caps lock 
> key.  And eliminating only hemophiliacs (even if they don't recruit young 
> boys - ha ha) from the gene pool will never eradicate hemophilia.  Even 
> if you get the ones that aren't Alec Baldwin.  

I never said that we could entirely eradicate hemophilia.  But just
because we can't cure ONE HUNDRED PER CENT of a problem, doesn't mean that
we shouldn't shoot for seventy-five per cent.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 10:41:31 PST 1996
Article: 20718 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: More lies from Griswold, surprise, surprise (Was:Black vs. White
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John Baglow (ai433@FreeNet.Carleton.CA), PSAC Pooh-Bah, writes: 
> 
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) prevaricates:
>> I heard on the radio yesterday that negro arrest and convictions in
>> Ontario have gone up by 240% over the last ten years, while white 
>> arrest/conviction rates in Ontario have gone up by 23%.  Now, of course,
>> the newspapers are being strangely silent on this one
> 
> This is a lie, folks. It's been front-page news. It would appear that
> racism plays a major role in this, to the point that the fairly right-wing
> government of Ontario is expressing public concern.

"... fairly right-wing government of Ontario..."  BWAHAHAHA!

> The arrest rate for
> Blacks is disproportionate given the eventual conviction rate; Blacks are
> far more frequently stopped by police based on stereotypes; more Blacks
> are likely to be imprisoned for lesser offences for which whites are
> fined; bail is more frequently refused for Blacks than for whites charged
> with the same offence; etc., etc. All of this, incidentally, was in the
> Globe and Mail, front page, just a few days ago. 

So I don't read the G&M.  I have yet to see it anywhere else, like in a
REAL newspaper.
 
>> any event, I just wanted to point something out:  negro arrest/conviction
>> rates have gone up in Ontario by TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY percent in the last
>> ten years.
> 
> I love the way this nazi conflates arrest and conviction statistics.
> Clever, huh?

And I love the way this communist tries to evade issues by using big
words.  Clever, huh?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 11:04:14 PST 1996
Article: 11827 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.flame.adolf-hitler
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Socialist Black Man (an479493@anon.penet.fi) writes:
>  alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.black
> 
> I propose this group to attack Hitler, the most evil man
> who ever walked the face of the Earth.

So create it.  And you'll get bored to tears in no time.  Face it - the
ONLY reason you hang around here is that White people pay attention to you.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 11:04:15 PST 1996
Article: 11828 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Did I say, or even suggest, that it WOULD?  Re-read the sentence above,
> : where I said, "That's not to say that there will be NO hemophillia in the
> : next generation..."  You know, you liberals are hell on the blood pressure.
> 
> I know.  But if it won't decrease the amount of hemophilia in future 
> generations by any appreciable amount, why on earth should the people be 
> restricted from having children?  What are you getting at here?

Susan, Susan, Susan...

Could you PLEASE explain to me how "we won't eliminate ALL hemophilia"
translates into "we won't decrease hemophilia by any appreciable amount"? 
I said the first, but I DID NOT say the second, YOU did.

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 11:04:16 PST 1996
Article: 11829 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ALL HUMANS ARE AFRICAN
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an479493@anon.penet.fi (Socialist Black Man) wrote:
> 
>All humans origanate from Africa, so all our ancestors
>are black. 
> 
>I bet white racists would hate to know that.

*sigh*

Yet another tool who thinks that because we EVOLVED from some lower
life-form, that we OWE that lower life-form something...

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 11:04:17 PST 1996
Article: 11848 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Griswold Refugee from a Dwarf Throwing Contest, was: (Re: Black vs. White crime)
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"James White" (white@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Jan 18, 1996 01:12:41 in article ,
> 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)' wrote: 
>  
>>I heard on the radio yesterday that negro arrest and convictions in 
>>Ontario have gone up by 240% over the last ten years, while white  
>>arrest/conviction rates in Ontario have gone up by 23%.  Now, of course, 
>>the newspapers are being strangely silent on this one; I wonder why.  In 
>>any event, I just wanted to point something out:  negro arrest/conviction 
>>rates have gone up in Ontario by TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY percent in the last
>>ten years.  Some nabob is going to blame it on racism, of course.  But the
>>last ten years in Ontario, the government has been Liberal/NDP, and 
>>especially the latter has enacted some of the most "progressive" laws re: 
>>race relations.  Seems like those laws haven't done much good! (heck, even
>>someone with an 85 I.Q. would be able to figure out that negroes were 
>>better off BEFORE all this race-relations crap came along) 
>  
> I don't believe you Griswold.  In the first place being a security guard
> and being in the lowest level of Human IQ range you probably did not
> understand what you heard.  You are probably a functional illiterate, and
> in addition to that you lie.  Still preserving those runt genes?  No
> National Socialist Revolution is going to be led by a dwarf functional
> illiterate. 

So don't believe me, Jacob.  What do I care what an insane turd does or
doesn't believe?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 20 11:30:24 PST 1996
Article: 15524 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Griswold Refugee from a Dwarf Throwing Contest, was: (Re: Black vs. White crime)
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"James White" (white@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Jan 18, 1996 01:12:41 in article ,
> 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)' wrote: 
>  
>>I heard on the radio yesterday that negro arrest and convictions in 
>>Ontario have gone up by 240% over the last ten years, while white  
>>arrest/conviction rates in Ontario have gone up by 23%.  Now, of course, 
>>the newspapers are being strangely silent on this one; I wonder why.  In 
>>any event, I just wanted to point something out:  negro arrest/conviction 
>>rates have gone up in Ontario by TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY percent in the last
>>ten years.  Some nabob is going to blame it on racism, of course.  But the
>>last ten years in Ontario, the government has been Liberal/NDP, and 
>>especially the latter has enacted some of the most "progressive" laws re: 
>>race relations.  Seems like those laws haven't done much good! (heck, even
>>someone with an 85 I.Q. would be able to figure out that negroes were 
>>better off BEFORE all this race-relations crap came along) 
>  
> I don't believe you Griswold.  In the first place being a security guard
> and being in the lowest level of Human IQ range you probably did not
> understand what you heard.  You are probably a functional illiterate, and
> in addition to that you lie.  Still preserving those runt genes?  No
> National Socialist Revolution is going to be led by a dwarf functional
> illiterate. 

So don't believe me, Jacob.  What do I care what an insane turd does or
doesn't believe?

Les


--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 21 09:13:11 PST 1996
Article: 11881 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King  (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)

> : > Furthermore, some genes are closely linked.  What if (HYPOTHETICAL 
> : > SITUATION ALERT - CLOSE YOUR MIND NOW) it turns out that there's 
> : > some neat gene which occurs mainly in hemophilia carriers (this sort 
> : > of linkage does happen), and if we breed all the hemophilia out of the 
> : > population we lose that gene as well, [snip]
> 
> : Well, IF it turns out that there IS a nifty/desirable gene linked with
> : hemophilia, THEN we'll deal with the situation.  Really, Stewie, THIS is
> : why I keep saying "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time
> : he jumped".
> 
> But we don't always know which genes are going to be desirable when and 
> why.  We don't even know what most of them do yet.  Yes we've found the 
> ones for a lot of diseases, because that's what the researchers have been 
> spending their lives looking for becuase it's most important.  It's going 
> to be a _damn_ long time before we have a complete genome map with full 
> knowledge of what every little doodad does.  And even with that we still 
> can't see the future to know which ones we're going to need.

*sigh*

Sometimes I wonder why I bother... but then I remember that Stewie is the
least bothersome of the liberals, and he actually appears to be interested
in exchanging ideas, rather than the logic-chopping and shouting matches
that normally signal liberalism.

Stewie, we don't know a lot of things, but that hasn't held us up before. 
It is IMPOSSIBLE to anticipate EVERY eventuality, and if you wait for
everything that can possibly occur TO occur before you do anything, you'll
dies a procrastinator.

There may indeed be a neat-o gene attached to hemophilia.  However, we are
aware of hemophilia NOW, and it's a problem.  Let's deal with what we
KNOW, and leave the fairy-tales to the Grimm brothers, all right?
 
> : Y'know, that same argument could be used to argue for the release of
> : Clifford Oleson (a really sleazy serial killer who preyed on children): 
> : he MIGHT contribute something positive to society if we released him, so
> : let's release him and find out.
> 
> Oleson kills other people. 

But he might have changed.  And even if he hasn't, what gives YOU (or anyone
else) the right to decide that his extroverted behaviour constitues a
negative?

> The only people hemophiliacs pass their 
> burden to are their own children; I think they're capable of making that 
> choice on their own.

You're pro-abortion too, aren't you?
 
> : > And anyway, if people want to have children, even knowing the risk of 
> : > hemophilia, I consider that their right. 
> 
> : And I consider it MY right not to have to support people who, through
> : no fault of their own, but through the selfishness of their parents, can't
> : support themselves.
> 
> Look, one of my little cousins is a hemophiliac and he can take care of 
> himself just fine.  It's more work and worry for the "selfish" parents 
> and that's about all.  

Ah, so THAT'S why all of this irrationality is coming from you:  all this
talk of hemophilia hits close to home. 

> : > If they want to do selective abortion or something like that, I'm 
> : > fine with that too, but Society isn't in charge o' my genes, no sir.
> 
> : Like it or not, Stewie, your genes ARE being controlled, and always will
> : be.  Right now, you're under the influence of a _Weltanschauung_ that says
> : ANYONE can breed with ANYONE, and genetic wretches are more valuable than
> : genetically healthy babies.
> 
> Is a Weltanschauung some kind of a schnauzer?  Never mind, not 
> important.  Anyway, your paranoia aside, I don't see how someone saying 
> "anyone can breed with anyone" is controlling me.

Figures.  You don't WANT to believe that decadence is being encouraged, so
you REFUSE to.  That's what it all boils down to.

> I only see more 
> choices, not less.  And nobody's ever said "genetic wretches" are _more_ 
> valuable than "healthy" babies.

So, more choice = better, in your world view?
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 21 09:13:13 PST 1996
Article: 11904 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 21 09:16:01 PST 1996
Article: 15602 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: American Dissident Voices schedule
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--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 21 10:00:01 PST 1996
Article: 316659 of talk.politics.misc
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: American Dissident Voices schedule
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"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 22 10:40:20 PST 1996
Article: 20946 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (battle-axe@bra.burner.com) writes:
> In article , bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Milton Kleim) wrote:
> 
> * The Aryan Corps.  A coalition of independent Internet activists.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> * For more information, contact:
> * 
> * Milton John Kleim, Jr., Director, Aryan Corps Combat Information Center
> *    bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> * 
> * Les Griswold, Aryan Corps Operations Specialist
> *    bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> 
> ... These two sniveling Nazis are still licking their wounds that they were
> not mentioned in the _Time_ article this week.

Milton was; I wasn't.  Get your facts straight, Crazy.

> Perhaps if they'd penned some articles about goat cookouts, cross burnings
> (complete with marshmallow toasting), racial theories and dating tips, they
> would have earned the national attention given to the leaders of CLOC. 

You sound like primo CLOC material, Crazy.

> Instead, they just keep puking up the same lies and stereotypes that shows
> them not having much imagination or inclination to have a good time. They
> haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if they
> don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get the
> attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course, the
> Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)

Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 22 10:40:21 PST 1996
Article: 20947 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> In article , bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Milton Kleim) wrote:
 
(snip)
 
>   :The Aryan Corps is an alliance of Net activists, united in an effort to 
>   :disseminate and promote the message of Aryan racial salvation and progress.
> 
> By destroying benign newsgroups like alt.support.loneliness and
> alt.fan.john-denver. Incursions into high-volume groups--check out
> alt.slack some time--have about as much lingering impact as a fart in a
> car.

Typical ignorant liberal.  We're not CLOC.  Why is this so hard for you to
grasp?  (actually, I bet you understand very well the difference between
hobbyists and serious nationalists, but your empty-headed rhetoric sounds
so much better when you just gloss over the differences.  Gee, is that
STEREOTYPING?)
 
> I'm sorry to keep coming back to the intestinal gas analogies,

That's okay, Andy-panda, it's not surprising, coming from you.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 10:58:54 PST 1996
Article: 12029 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)
 
> : > Blacks have been in the South since before the American Revolution.  
> 
> : So have many draft animals.  Again, your point?
> 
> That we have a history of multiethnicity since before 1965? 

So?  We (well, you) also had segregation since the War of Secession, until
1965.

(snip)

> : > A slow mind-opening cultural and 
> : > racial acceptance of blacks on the part of the white community would do 
> : > far more good than harm.
> 
> : But a slow mind-opening is NOT what's happening.  Rather, we're
> : experiencing a RAPID ramming together of alien cultures, races,
> : nationalities, etc.
> 
> There shouldn't be any ramming going on. 

But there is.  Wake up and face reality.

> But I see you opposing even slow integration, favoring complete separatism
> instead.  How this will solve long-range problems I don't pretend to know.

I'm FINALLY starting to get somewhere with you.  Heck, I may have to
rethink my opinion of liberals (I know how you LOVE being called a
liberal) in light of your open-mindedness.  However, I will explain
something to you, something I have NEVER made a secret of, although it
seems to knock you lefties into a tizzy every time I say it:

I DON'T CARE about "problems", as you state it.  If the non-Whites are
removed from our midst, there will BE no problems that I care ONE IOTA
about.  All the negroes can starve for all I care, as long as they don't
do it here.  They can also prosper.  The jews can fight to their hearts'
content with the Arabs, and vicey-versy.  The Asians can do whatever it is
that they do (mostly overpopulate their land).  I JUST DON'T CARE.  Get it?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 10:58:55 PST 1996
Article: 12031 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)

> : > : That's the frustrating thing about debating with liberals (even 
> : > : ones who are into denial, like you):  they need to be convinced 
> : > : that THEIR opinion matters.  It doesn't, so sit down and shut up.
> : > 
> : > And yours does?
> 
> : More than yours, shit-for-brains.
> 
> I don't see how you can back this up with anything but I'm extremely 
> interested in watching you try.

I can back it up very easily by pointing out the fact that you don't have
an "opinion" as such, you simply point at the status quo and shout "See?!?
 Vindication of my beliefs!"
 
> By the way, one of the reasons whites are supposedly superior to blacks 
> is their higher average IQ score.  Does that mean if my IQ score is 
> higher than yours I'm superior and my opinions mean more?  I say no, but 
> I'm interested in your opinion.  

"Average" means statistical, dummy.  That means of a GROUP.  But, okay,
I'll grant you that you MAY have a higher IQ than I do.  What's that
prove?  That fucking brainiacs like you can STILL be incredibly dense.
 
> And if not, doesn't a higher average IQ simply mean that whites are more 
> likely to be elitist liberal idiots?

What the HELL are you talking about?
 
> : The one where you wax poetic about how the parents of potential
> : hemophiliacs might have _wunderkind_, but would be prevented from doing so
> : by a eugenics program.  Y'know, Stewie, if a frog had wings...
> 
> At this rate I'm going to start having dreams about frogs swooping out of 
> the sky and stealing my cat and it's all your fault.

Typical liberal:  blame someone else for your own problems.  That's the
trouble with you lefties:  you NEVER want to take responsibility for your
own actions.

(snip)
 
> : > And the value of a large gene pool has already been hashed out in this 
> : > thread - it helps mask unhealthy genes and creates a more fit population 
> : > overall.  
> 
> : No, the "value" of a large gene pool hasn't been "hashed out", in this
> : thread, or anywhere else.  You've simply asserted it, and the above is an
> : argument for producing carriers.
> 
> Four or five people with strong biology backgrounds explained in painful 
> detail why MORE GENES = GOOD. 

No, several flaming liberal idiots came on here and whimped out in typical
liberal fashion by arguing that the "facts" support what is happening
anyway, because they were (and presumably still are) too frightened to
point out that the laws of genetics do NOT support random, wild,
"fuck-anything-with-a-hole-and-a-pulse"ism.

> You posted no real refutation of this 
> because, well, there isn't one, since it's true.  Read some bio.

I posted no refutation because it was so abysmally stupid that it
warranted little real refutation.
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 11:00:42 PST 1996
Article: 15808 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Caesar can't count (was: Fact #4 to contradict white racists)
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> FACT #3 TO CONTRADICT WHITE RACISTS WHO THINK THAT NON-WHITE
> CIVILIZATIONS HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED ANYTHING:
> 
> Gunpowder was invented by the Chinese long before it
> came into use in Europe.

And what did the Chinese do with it?  They created FIREWORKS.

BTW, jerkazoid, your title was "Fact #4...", but you labelled it as Fact
#3 in the message.  So, which is it?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste... on a liberal.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 11:00:43 PST 1996
Article: 15809 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Penpal marriages--my personal experience with my Caribbean wife
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gary (465643@anon.penet.fi.) writes:
>  I know I am taking a bit of a risk posting this to a white supremist 
> group but I think it is a good idea to bring some of you guys out there 
> back to reality...there are a lot of good white men out there, like 
> myself, who are conservative but are very happy being with an ethnic 
> woman...very happy indeed.  Let me introduce myself...
> 
> Hello, My name is Gary I am a 27 y.o Caucasian male living in Toronto and 
> I am married 
> to a lovely Black female from the Caribbean (Monserrat).  We met via an 
> international pen pal service and at first I was very skeptical about 
> meeting a woman in this manner.  Many of us males are frankly 
> scared of the high divorce rate amoung traditional white marriages and it 
> has become almost trendy to experiment outside of our race.  My friends 
> who have non-white mates said that ethnic women tend to be more attentive 
> and servile, as well as more 'traditional'.  I suppose this is what 
> prompted me to seek out someone like Anneta.  At first, I could have 
> probably been accused of seeking out a stereotype of the kind of woman I 
> wanted--gentle, exotic, and attentive.  But after corresponding, we began 
> to build a relationship that was based on a lot more than just 
> stereotypes.  She treats me like a prince (really!) and I treat her with 
> the love and respect she deserves (especially after all the hardships she 
> went through with her own men in her country).  I think we both feel that 
> we are perfectly suited for one another.  If I had to start all over 
> again, I would probably still find a way to meet a woman from the 
> islands, but this time it wouldn't just be because of stereotypes--it 
> would be because I wanted to find someone with the loving qualities that 
> Anneta has.  It just so happens that many Caribbean women posess these 
> wonderful qualities  and outlook on life and also tend to be quite 
> attractive.
>  
> On the other hand, I don't have that many friends who are actually 
> MARRIED to island women (maybe just dating, etc) which can make both of 
> us feel a bit isolated.  We don't have that many friends in our 
> situation, and I don't think either of us feel very comfortable with 
> couples that are the inverse (BM/WF).  However one of the reasons I chose 
> Island women over other ethnic women (ie., orientals) is because the 
> cultures are that much closer intertwined and her family is very 
> supportive of me and our marriage so this is a sort of solace for us.
> 
> White men with Black women is a trend that is slowly spreading in T.O. 
> for whatever reasons.  My sincere hope is that an identifiable group of 
> these types of couples will emerge, because singularly these types of 
> couples can easily feel insulated from the interracial dating scene in 
> general.  I hope that my wonderful life and marriage with Anneta is 
> something more White males will have the privilage to experience.

Chum, fuck off.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 11:00:44 PST 1996
Article: 15812 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)
 
> : > Blacks have been in the South since before the American Revolution.  
> 
> : So have many draft animals.  Again, your point?
> 
> That we have a history of multiethnicity since before 1965? 

So?  We (well, you) also had segregation since the War of Secession, until
1965.

(snip)

> : > A slow mind-opening cultural and 
> : > racial acceptance of blacks on the part of the white community would do 
> : > far more good than harm.
> 
> : But a slow mind-opening is NOT what's happening.  Rather, we're
> : experiencing a RAPID ramming together of alien cultures, races,
> : nationalities, etc.
> 
> There shouldn't be any ramming going on. 

But there is.  Wake up and face reality.

> But I see you opposing even slow integration, favoring complete separatism
> instead.  How this will solve long-range problems I don't pretend to know.

I'm FINALLY starting to get somewhere with you.  Heck, I may have to
rethink my opinion of liberals (I know how you LOVE being called a
liberal) in light of your open-mindedness.  However, I will explain
something to you, something I have NEVER made a secret of, although it
seems to knock you lefties into a tizzy every time I say it:

I DON'T CARE about "problems", as you state it.  If the non-Whites are
removed from our midst, there will BE no problems that I care ONE IOTA
about.  All the negroes can starve for all I care, as long as they don't
do it here.  They can also prosper.  The jews can fight to their hearts'
content with the Arabs, and vicey-versy.  The Asians can do whatever it is
that they do (mostly overpopulate their land).  I JUST DON'T CARE.  Get it?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 23 11:00:45 PST 1996
Article: 15814 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)

> : > : That's the frustrating thing about debating with liberals (even 
> : > : ones who are into denial, like you):  they need to be convinced 
> : > : that THEIR opinion matters.  It doesn't, so sit down and shut up.
> : > 
> : > And yours does?
> 
> : More than yours, shit-for-brains.
> 
> I don't see how you can back this up with anything but I'm extremely 
> interested in watching you try.

I can back it up very easily by pointing out the fact that you don't have
an "opinion" as such, you simply point at the status quo and shout "See?!?
 Vindication of my beliefs!"
 
> By the way, one of the reasons whites are supposedly superior to blacks 
> is their higher average IQ score.  Does that mean if my IQ score is 
> higher than yours I'm superior and my opinions mean more?  I say no, but 
> I'm interested in your opinion.  

"Average" means statistical, dummy.  That means of a GROUP.  But, okay,
I'll grant you that you MAY have a higher IQ than I do.  What's that
prove?  That fucking brainiacs like you can STILL be incredibly dense.
 
> And if not, doesn't a higher average IQ simply mean that whites are more 
> likely to be elitist liberal idiots?

What the HELL are you talking about?
 
> : The one where you wax poetic about how the parents of potential
> : hemophiliacs might have _wunderkind_, but would be prevented from doing so
> : by a eugenics program.  Y'know, Stewie, if a frog had wings...
> 
> At this rate I'm going to start having dreams about frogs swooping out of 
> the sky and stealing my cat and it's all your fault.

Typical liberal:  blame someone else for your own problems.  That's the
trouble with you lefties:  you NEVER want to take responsibility for your
own actions.

(snip)
 
> : > And the value of a large gene pool has already been hashed out in this 
> : > thread - it helps mask unhealthy genes and creates a more fit population 
> : > overall.  
> 
> : No, the "value" of a large gene pool hasn't been "hashed out", in this
> : thread, or anywhere else.  You've simply asserted it, and the above is an
> : argument for producing carriers.
> 
> Four or five people with strong biology backgrounds explained in painful 
> detail why MORE GENES = GOOD. 

No, several flaming liberal idiots came on here and whimped out in typical
liberal fashion by arguing that the "facts" support what is happening
anyway, because they were (and presumably still are) too frightened to
point out that the laws of genetics do NOT support random, wild,
"fuck-anything-with-a-hole-and-a-pulse"ism.

> You posted no real refutation of this 
> because, well, there isn't one, since it's true.  Read some bio.

I posted no refutation because it was so abysmally stupid that it
warranted little real refutation.
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 08:56:49 PST 1996
Article: 21174 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hypocrits! You Don't Live With the Blacks, Because You Are Liars
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> I'm white and Jewish, and I live and blacks and Latinos, as well as other
> white, and my neighborhood is beautiful, and everyone gets along.

Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with this corn?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 08:56:50 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Jeanne Kowalewski (bitch@ball.breaker.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

> * > They haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if
> * > they don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get
> * > the attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course,
> * > the Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)
> * 
> * Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
> * his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
> * simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.
> 
> You most certainly did sulk, and you've been trying to trivialize the
> award and besmirch Ken's character ever since. BTW, those "box-tops" that
> have been so diligently saved are the words of you and your compadres.
> Don't you just hate it when your words come back at you when you try and
> pull a fast one?

We don't have to trivialize the Order of British Columbia.  The name does
it itself.

As for archiving my words, well, so?  You, among others, have tried to
trip me up time and time again, never succeeding.  But keep at it, you may
make some progress some day.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 12:39:54 PST 1996
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> I'm white and Jewish, and I live and blacks and Latinos, as well as other
> white, and my neighborhood is beautiful, and everyone gets along.

Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with this corn?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 12:39:55 PST 1996
Article: 21336 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Jeanne Kowalewski (bitch@ball.breaker.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

> * > They haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if
> * > they don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get
> * > the attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course,
> * > the Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)
> * 
> * Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
> * his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
> * simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.
> 
> You most certainly did sulk, and you've been trying to trivialize the
> award and besmirch Ken's character ever since. BTW, those "box-tops" that
> have been so diligently saved are the words of you and your compadres.
> Don't you just hate it when your words come back at you when you try and
> pull a fast one?

We don't have to trivialize the Order of British Columbia.  The name does
it itself.

As for archiving my words, well, so?  You, among others, have tried to
trip me up time and time again, never succeeding.  But keep at it, you may
make some progress some day.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:22:54 PST 1996
Article: 12128 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:
> 
> : So?  We (well, you) also had segregation since the War of Secession, until
> : 1965.
> 
> Yet strangely there have been multiracial people since before 
> emancipation.  

So?  Are you arguing that because an instituion is OLD, it's to be respected?  
Is the FACT that multiracial societies are uneasy societies lost on you?  
Apparently so.

> : > There shouldn't be any ramming going on. 
> 
> : But there is.  Wake up and face reality.
> 
> If I could change it I would, hey?  I'm barely passing my classes 
> here.  I don't see the races magically parting like the Red fucking Sea 
> just because you say they should. 

And I don't see them getting along a la Michael Lucifer Koon's "dream",
either, the perverse "love the _untermenschen_" message of that "dream"
notwithstanding.

> We're bascially a bunch of 
> intellectual wankers here, let's get down and party without worrying 
> about what's really going on.

Coward.
 
(snip)

> : I DON'T CARE about "problems", as you state it.  If the non-Whites are
> : removed from our midst, there will BE no problems that I care ONE IOTA
> : about.  
> 
> Newsflash for Les: You are not the only person in society.  I'm here 
> too.  I DON'T CARE about your race problems, your pure Aryan genes, your 
> sanctity of White culture.  I believe in a dynamic culture, because I see 
> it every day and I know how and why it works and that it's pretty much 
> always been that way.  People come, people go, cultures change, everyone 
> lives.  

News flash for Stewie:  my ideas represent the coming future.  Yours
represent (at best) a cowardly solipsism.

> I DO care about a gigantic race riot, the social and economic dissection 
> of our society, and the possibility of open hatred being directed against 
> my minority friends.  These are the sorts of things your ideas would cause.

No, these are the sorts of things my ideas would PREVENT.  With no negroes
in white areas, there would be no negro race riots.  Same with any other
non-white group.

> I'm not a multiculturalist in the sense you all take the word.  I believe 
> in American culture.  (Pardon my marginalizing Canada for a moment.)  One 
> big one, that has and will continue to accept and incorporate all other 
> cultures thrown at it.  It just takes a little while, is all.

Oh, balls, Stewie.  Your race-mixing ideal will NEVER be palatable to ANY
sane, healthy white person, and more and more white people are waking up
every day to the reality of your "we are the world" preachings.  Scares
you silly, doesn't it?  It should.

> : All the negroes can starve for all I care, as long as they don't
> : do it here.  They can also prosper.  The jews can fight to their hearts'
> : content with the Arabs, and vicey-versy.  The Asians can do whatever it is
> : that they do (mostly overpopulate their land).  I JUST DON'T CARE.  
> : Get it?
> 
> Yes.  Les, I'm not dumb.  Your implying it in every post just makes you 
> look sort of silly.  The point is, some of us do care.  What are you 
> going to say to us as you rip our country apart for your own ends?

Really, Stewie?  You care?  About what, exactly?  You have resigned
yourself to the "we're-all-goners-anyway" crowd, so what is it you believe
in?  Having a fun time while the rest of White Western civilization goes
mams up?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:22:56 PST 1996
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> I'm white and Jewish, and I live and blacks and Latinos, as well as other
> white, and my neighborhood is beautiful, and everyone gets along.

Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with this corn?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:22:57 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Repatriating Asians (was: Liberal brain"washing")
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Julia Kim (jmkim@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : The Asians can do whatever it is
> : that they do (mostly overpopulate their land). 
> 
> Uh...I guess you're talking about the Chinese and their population 
> problem, to put it mildly.  But, on this side of the ocean, I don't think 
> there is an overpopulation problem among asians, and we are talking about 
> the Asians in the U.S., correct?  Sending them back, or whatever, would 
> only serve to mess up the problems in the other countries, not that I 
> think you care, but just to point out.

Not at all!  After all, there's been so much huffing and puffing about how
GREAT the Asians here are, how they're such great achievers and all... so,
they're just the sort of thing that the Asians back in Asia would NEED.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:22:58 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>I DON'T CARE about "problems", [deleted].  If the non-Whites are
>>removed from our midst, there will BE no problems that I care ONE IOTA
>>about.  All the negroes can starve for all I care, as long as they don't
>>do it here.  They can also prosper.  The jews can fight to their hearts'
>>content with the Arabs, and vicey-versy.  The Asians can do whatever it is
>>that they do (mostly overpopulate their land).  I JUST DON'T CARE.  Get it?
> 
> Ah yes, lily-whites, left to their own devices, will all just get along
> marvellously.  Everyone with white skin shares the same political 
> ideology, religion, cultural beliefs, and language.  Just get rid of
> those nasty nonwhites and peace and prosperity will reign.  Just as it
> did when the Vikings invaded the British Isles, William the Conqueror
> descended on England, and during the War of the Roses, the American
> Revolution, and the French Revolution.  History does not support your
> contention that "whites" are inherently peaceful people.

Perhaps because I never MADE the contention that whites are peaceful
people, Fester.  Pay attention.

But, really, why bring up ancient history to indict us?  It may come as a
surprise to you, but we DO know what to do again, and what NOT to do.  Of
course, one of our big NOTs is, not to allow jews into our homelands, or
to allow traitorous whites anywhere NEAR anything that'll allow them to
harm our race.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:22:59 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Searching for Europe's Moors?  Look into the Surname.
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com wrote:
> 
> [edited]
> 
>> Now, here's the European names, I know of, that signify that a person 
>> has "Moorish" blood. 
>>
>> Muir (ger), Morrison(scot), Morris(eng or scot), Morandi (ital) Mueller 
>> (ger), Moore (English). 
>>
>> I find it amazing that many of these people with these names, tho' 
>> they do indeed look European, have some dark features about them.
> 
> Mr. Griswold, what do you think?  Should simplify matters tremendously.
> All you have to do is "repatriate" anyone with a name like Moore, Morrison,
> Morris, Muir, Mueller etc.  That will certainly weed out those nasty 
> Moorish "genes".

Well, what I THINK is, that Mr. Moscovitz is a total idiot, but that's not
what you asked me...

Topically, I think that's incorrect.

> Now mind you, if I had a Morrison in my family tree and knew that it
> would be grounds for "repatriation", I might be tempted to leave it out
> when I put my genealogy together to take it into the "whiteness" office
> for examination.

Typical lying liberal.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:00 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Racial equality?  HAH!
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How ludicrous!  To THINK that ANYONE would buy such a load of malarkey!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:01 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Jeanne Kowalewski (bitch@ball.breaker.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

> * > They haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if
> * > they don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get
> * > the attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course,
> * > the Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)
> * 
> * Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
> * his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
> * simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.
> 
> You most certainly did sulk, and you've been trying to trivialize the
> award and besmirch Ken's character ever since. BTW, those "box-tops" that
> have been so diligently saved are the words of you and your compadres.
> Don't you just hate it when your words come back at you when you try and
> pull a fast one?

We don't have to trivialize the Order of British Columbia.  The name does
it itself.

As for archiving my words, well, so?  You, among others, have tried to
trip me up time and time again, never succeeding.  But keep at it, you may
make some progress some day.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:02 PST 1996
Article: 12252 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Repatriating Asians (was: Liberal brain"washing")
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Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Not at all!  After all, there's been so much huffing and puffing about how
> : GREAT the Asians here are, how they're such great achievers and all... so,
> : they're just the sort of thing that the Asians back in Asia would NEED.
> 
> So now you want to deport people who are a *credit* to the poulation?  

They're a credit to THEIR populations.  They're a massive DEBT to ours. 
Got it?

> Considering that England has gone down the tubes economically (sorry, 
> Caesar), doesn't that mean that all of the Anglos in the US shoul dpack 
> up and head home to straighten out the situation? 

Actually, England would be better off for it, because all those Anglos
would displace the numerous non-whites crawling over what was once Great
Britain.

> And Ireland, for heavens' sake, where the young people have to go abroad
> after schooling because there are no jobs to be had... perhaps the 40 million 
> Irish-Americans should return to bring prosperity to the 4 million people 
> of Ireland.

Typical liberal:  you think that pointing out ONE example of
less-than-stellar performance by Whites somehow excuses all the examples
of non-white failure?

> Deport those who are worthless, and those who are productive.  Try to be 
> consistent, Les, we don't want to turn this country back over to the bison.

(I *don't* want to turn this continent back to the bison, but for the sake of 
argument...)  

Why not?  YOU guys want to turn it back over to the indians, who were a
bunch of environment-destroying savages.  At least the bison didn't scalp
people.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:03 PST 1996
Article: 12258 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws36.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)

> : > By the way, one of the reasons whites are supposedly superior to blacks 
> : > is their higher average IQ score.  Does that mean if my IQ score is 
> : > higher than yours I'm superior and my opinions mean more?  I say no, but 
> : > I'm interested in your opinion.  
> 
> : "Average" means statistical, dummy.  That means of a GROUP.  But, okay,
> : I'll grant you that you MAY have a higher IQ than I do.  What's that
> : prove?  That fucking brainiacs like you can STILL be incredibly dense.
> 
> I'll take that as a no.

Take it any way you like.
 
> : > And if not, doesn't a higher average IQ simply mean that whites are more 
> : > likely to be elitist liberal idiots?
> 
> : What the HELL are you talking about?
> 
> You know.  Universities = high IQ people = intellectual ivory tower.  The 
> whites that are supposed to be the most superior actually think you're 
> morons.

But you equation is fundamentally wrong.  Universities DO NOT equal high
IQ people.  What they DO equal, in many, many cases, are morons educated
far beyond the level that their intelligence justifies.
 
(snip)

> : > Four or five people with strong biology backgrounds explained in painful 
> : > detail why MORE GENES = GOOD. 
> 
> : No, several flaming liberal idiots came on here and whimped out in typical
> : liberal fashion by arguing that the "facts" support what is happening
> : anyway, because they were (and presumably still are) too frightened to
> : point out that the laws of genetics do NOT support random, wild,
> : "fuck-anything-with-a-hole-and-a-pulse"ism.
> 
> But, well, they do, basically.

Do not.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:04 PST 1996
Article: 12259 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Rachel Meredith Kadel (rkadel@fas.harvard.edu), recognizing that one of her 
fellow-travelers (uh, that's you, Stewie) is in trouble, writes: 
> In article , Les Griswold 
>  wrote:

(snip)

>>The one where you wax poetic about how the parents of potential
>>hemophiliacs might have _wunderkind_, but would be prevented from doing so
>>by a eugenics program.  Y'know, Stewie, if a frog had wings...
> 
> Sweetheart, are you saying that no hemophiliacs have the capability of 
> producing impressive children?  That no hemophiliacs have the capability 
> of being impressive people?  If not, why the fuck are you talking about 
> frogs again?

*sigh*

No, I'm not, sugar-bunch.  What I AM saying is that hemophiliacs are just
as likely to produce genetically INFERIOR children through random mating,
as they are to produce SUPERIOR children.  Hell, ANYONE is as likely to
produce inferior children as superior ones through random mating.  What
don't you understand?  Or are you just trying to distract me from the
intellectual ass-kicking I'm giving Stewie?

>>Indeed they might (ie, hemohiliacs might produce inferior/superior
>>children).  And the law of averages states that they might ALSO produce some 
>>genetically INFERIOR children, hemophilia aside.  ANY random mating would.  
>>Why is this so hard for you sorts to grasp?
>>
> It's not hard for us to grasp at all.  We're perfectly aware of that.  

If you grasp obvious, WHY are you so stubbornly insisting that it's wrong?

> However, "genetic superiority/ genetic inferiority" isn't some sort of 
> simple, single scale.  There are lots of different *sorts* of 
> "genetically desireable" people.  And to make sure that *all* of those 
> sorts of "genetically desireable" people keep turning up, you have to 
> keep all the genetic diversity around that you can.

Oh, give me a break.  Desirability on a genetic scale does NOT justify
keeping around human wreckage.

Here's a simple biological axiom for you:  any organism that doesn't
dispose of its waste, dies.  Or, put another way, if WE don't start taking
responsibility for our screwing around with the laws of genetcs, Nature
will.  Is that what you want?
 
(snip)

>>No, the "value" of a large gene pool hasn't been "hashed out", in this
>>thread, or anywhere else.  You've simply asserted it, and the above is an
>>argument for producing carriers.
>>
>>You're a real whimp.  Basically, you're arguing for the status quo: 
>>random matings occur ANYWAY, so I'll argue that it's RIGHT.
>>
> Damn it, we've argued this all already.  A uniform population is more 
> vulnerable to changes in environment, diseases, etc.

A uniform population is NOT more vulnerable to the enviroment.  They MAY
be more vulnerable to wild, unpredictable changes, but what's your point? 
They may be just as likely to NOT be able to cope with sudden, drastic
changes.

I suggest that you read Tacitus' _Germania_ for one example of how a
people (the Germans) were well adapted to their environment.  Gee, I don't
seem to recall anything about mass dyings of Germans when they were in
OTHER environments.  Y'know, if a frog had wings...
 
>>It hurts a lot.  It gives them the idea that they're somehow better for
>>their illness, and it gives other people (especially children) the idea
>>that they (the "gifted" children) have something desirable.
>>
> Hang on.  "Gifted" children generally refers to *intelligent* children -- 
> when a school has a "gifted" program, it's for the higher-performing 
> students.  And I don't think that *anybody* thinks "oh yay, they're in 
> *special* education.  I think I'll be like them."

*Gifted* does not any longer refer to *intelligent* children.  Pull your
head out of your ass, and get with reality, as depressing as the current
reality is.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:23:05 PST 1996
Article: 12260 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hemophillia... (was: LOVE Black Women)
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Rachel Meredith Kadel (rkadel@fas.harvard.edu) writes:
> In article ,
> Les Griswold  wrote:
>>Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:

(snip)

Stewie:
>>> : > Furthermore, some genes are closely linked.  What if (HYPOTHETICAL 
>>> : > SITUATION ALERT - CLOSE YOUR MIND NOW) it turns out that there's 
>>> : > some neat gene which occurs mainly in hemophilia carriers (this sort 
>>> : > of linkage does happen), and if we breed all the hemophilia out of the 
>>> : > population we lose that gene as well, [snip]
>>> 
>>> : Well, IF it turns out that there IS a nifty/desirable gene linked with
>>> : hemophilia, THEN we'll deal with the situation.  Really, Stewie, THIS is
>>> : why I keep saying "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time
>>> : he jumped".
>>> 
>>> But we don't always know which genes are going to be desirable when and 
>>> why.  We don't even know what most of them do yet.  Yes we've found the 
>>> ones for a lot of diseases, because that's what the researchers have been 
>>> spending their lives looking for becuase it's most important.  It's going 
>>> to be a _damn_ long time before we have a complete genome map with full 
>>> knowledge of what every little doodad does.  And even with that we still 
>>> can't see the future to know which ones we're going to need.
>>
>>*sigh*
>>
>>Sometimes I wonder why I bother... but then I remember that Stewie is the
>>least bothersome of the liberals, and he actually appears to be interested
>>in exchanging ideas, rather than the logic-chopping and shouting matches
>>that normally signal liberalism.
>>
>>Stewie, we don't know a lot of things, but that hasn't held us up before. 
>>It is IMPOSSIBLE to anticipate EVERY eventuality, and if you wait for
>>everything that can possibly occur TO occur before you do anything, you'll
>>dies a procrastinator.
> 
> Yes, but if you are aware that there's a decent chance that something 
> *permanent* you want to do might be a decidedly bad idea, maybe you can 
> choose to spend your energy on something else.

*sigh*

Rachel, Rachel, Rachel...

Saying that SOMETIMES a desirable gene links up with an undesirable one is
NOT the same thing as saying that a desirable gene has, or is likely to
have, linked up with the gene responsible for hemophilia.
 >>
>>There may indeed be a neat-o gene attached to hemophilia.  However, we are
>>aware of hemophilia NOW, and it's a problem.  Let's deal with what we
>>KNOW, and leave the fairy-tales to the Grimm brothers, all right?
>> 
> Well, the thing is that we also *know* that there's a hell of a lot we 
> don't know about genetics, and that if we succeed in eradicating the 
> hemophilia gene and then find out that it was really something we wanted 
> to have around, then we're screwed.  And we know of all the *other* 
> problems we need to work on, including the problem of treating the 
> hemophiliacs that *do* exist. 

Rachel, Rachel, Rachel...

Humanity survived and actually prospered just dandily WITHOUT knowing all
sorts of things.  They dealt with the situations given to them AT THE
TIME, WITH WHAT THEY KNEW/HAD.  Why is this such an affront to you?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:31:13 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hypocrits! You Don't Live With the Blacks, Because You Are Liars
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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
> I'm white and Jewish, and I live and blacks and Latinos, as well as other
> white, and my neighborhood is beautiful, and everyone gets along.

Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with this corn?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:31:14 PST 1996
Article: 15979 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Just a word on conspiracies... (was: This is absolutely disgusting)
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 (sylvia@sonic.net) writes:
> A racist speaking as usual from the depths of his ass posted: 
> 
> 
>> If so, then a state of war exists between CLOC and the entire USENET
>> community, including the Aryan Corps.  CLOC represents a dire threat to
>> free expression on USENET, and USENET must respond with whatever means are
>> necessary in self-defense.
>> 
>> -- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
>>    Internet Aryan Coprs
> 
> What's so funny is there own personal version of paranoia. The way they
> construct their world to reflect that THE RACISTS are the victims of some
> conspiracy.  All want is for them to shut up and go strangle themselves in
> urine stained white sheets- or better yet, be ridiculed to death.  I think
> a true, dyed in the wool (pardon the expression!) racist has no sense of
> humor at all.  They actually think that being human means they are
> important in the long run.  Utterly absurd- they will self destruct.  

It's amazing to see the dichotomy that liberals can hold in their heads. 
I will elucidate...

Racists see others (mostly jews) out to get them:  that's belief in a
"conspiracy".

Jews claim that all White Nationalists are out to "get them":  that's
reasonable.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:31:15 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Searching for Europe's Moors?  Look into the Surname.
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com wrote:
> 
> [edited]
> 
>> Now, here's the European names, I know of, that signify that a person 
>> has "Moorish" blood. 
>>
>> Muir (ger), Morrison(scot), Morris(eng or scot), Morandi (ital) Mueller 
>> (ger), Moore (English). 
>>
>> I find it amazing that many of these people with these names, tho' 
>> they do indeed look European, have some dark features about them.
> 
> Mr. Griswold, what do you think?  Should simplify matters tremendously.
> All you have to do is "repatriate" anyone with a name like Moore, Morrison,
> Morris, Muir, Mueller etc.  That will certainly weed out those nasty 
> Moorish "genes".

Well, what I THINK is, that Mr. Moscovitz is a total idiot, but that's not
what you asked me...

Topically, I think that's incorrect.

> Now mind you, if I had a Morrison in my family tree and knew that it
> would be grounds for "repatriation", I might be tempted to leave it out
> when I put my genealogy together to take it into the "whiteness" office
> for examination.

Typical lying liberal.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:31:16 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Racial equality?  HAH!
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How ludicrous!  To THINK that ANYONE would buy such a load of malarkey!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Jeanne Kowalewski (bitch@ball.breaker.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

> * > They haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if
> * > they don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get
> * > the attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course,
> * > the Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)
> * 
> * Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
> * his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
> * simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.
> 
> You most certainly did sulk, and you've been trying to trivialize the
> award and besmirch Ken's character ever since. BTW, those "box-tops" that
> have been so diligently saved are the words of you and your compadres.
> Don't you just hate it when your words come back at you when you try and
> pull a fast one?

We don't have to trivialize the Order of British Columbia.  The name does
it itself.

As for archiving my words, well, so?  You, among others, have tried to
trip me up time and time again, never succeeding.  But keep at it, you may
make some progress some day.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 25 14:38:49 PST 1996
Article: 10491 of alt.skinheads
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Aryan Corps
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Jeanne Kowalewski (bitch@ball.breaker.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

> * > They haven't sulked this much since Ken McVay was awarded the OBC, and if
> * > they don't straighten out their attitudes pretty soon, they'll never get
> * > the attention that they crave for their Nutzi Crackpots' Club. (Of course,
> * > the Miss Congeniality title is out, too, Les.)
> * 
> * Holy geez, you really ARE clueless.  We didn't "sulk" when Ken McVay got
> * his OBC for diligently saving up those box-tops.  Where were you?  We
> * simply told everyone that the OBC wasn't a real award.
> 
> You most certainly did sulk, and you've been trying to trivialize the
> award and besmirch Ken's character ever since. BTW, those "box-tops" that
> have been so diligently saved are the words of you and your compadres.
> Don't you just hate it when your words come back at you when you try and
> pull a fast one?

We don't have to trivialize the Order of British Columbia.  The name does
it itself.

As for archiving my words, well, so?  You, among others, have tried to
trip me up time and time again, never succeeding.  But keep at it, you may
make some progress some day.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:21:11 PST 1996
Article: 21394 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Y Reichsfeld (YREICHSF@MECHANICAL.uwaterloo.ca) whines:
> In article ,
>    bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>I picked up some stamps at the post office today.  Imagine my surprise
>>when the clerk handed me some "Holocaust" memorial stamps.  I was even
>>more surprised to learn that the "Holocaust" happened in the years
>>1933-1945.  This was what was printed on the stamp, along with about a
>>dozen jewish faces and a yellow star with the word "jude".  Now, I thought
>>that the official line about the holocaust was that it started after the
>>Wannsee conference (and its now infamous protocol) in 1942.  If so, how
>>can the holocaust have started 9 years earlier?  Did I miss something, or
>>was it just too difficult for them to keep track of all their lies....
>>
>>Sylvie Charbonneau
>>
>>
> No Sylvie, the holocaust started with the first boycott of jewish stores in 
> germany in 1933, now go flame someone else.

Oh, jeepers, next thing, you guys are gonna push the date back to 1925
when _Mein Kampf_ came out.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:21:12 PST 1996
Article: 21502 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hypocrits! You Don't Live With the Blacks, Because You Are Liars
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Arthur LeBouthillier (pendragn@cyberg8t.com) writes:
>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>
>>> Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with
>>> this corn?
>>
>> What are the biological and physiological characteristics that
>> distinguish "white" and Jewish people?  If I were to convert to
>> Judaism, would that mean that I would no longer be "white"? (PS,
>> to the best of my knowledge, there are no people with surnames
>> like Moore, Morrison, or Morris in my family tree)
> 
> 
> Boy! You anti-racists really need racism to justify yourselves!!!
> What if we said that there are no biological/physiological
> characteristics? What if we said that White were only an ethnological
> term (like you guys imply)? Then what? You wouldn't know what to do!
> You NEED biological racism to justify your continuous hatred of
> Whites!!!

How true.  Minority racists and "anti-racists" NEED us to justify their
existence.  Just as police "hate-crimes" squads wouldn't exist without
"hate-crimes".

An interesting bit of trivia:  in the summer of '95, the Ottawa Police
Bias Crimes unit was apparently harrassing militia members because they
have short hair, and were mistaken by these doughnut-chompers for
skinheads.  Boy, talk about desperate!

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:23:49 PST 1996
Article: 12282 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Y Reichsfeld (YREICHSF@MECHANICAL.uwaterloo.ca) whines:
> In article ,
>    bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>I picked up some stamps at the post office today.  Imagine my surprise
>>when the clerk handed me some "Holocaust" memorial stamps.  I was even
>>more surprised to learn that the "Holocaust" happened in the years
>>1933-1945.  This was what was printed on the stamp, along with about a
>>dozen jewish faces and a yellow star with the word "jude".  Now, I thought
>>that the official line about the holocaust was that it started after the
>>Wannsee conference (and its now infamous protocol) in 1942.  If so, how
>>can the holocaust have started 9 years earlier?  Did I miss something, or
>>was it just too difficult for them to keep track of all their lies....
>>
>>Sylvie Charbonneau
>>
>>
> No Sylvie, the holocaust started with the first boycott of jewish stores in 
> germany in 1933, now go flame someone else.

Oh, jeepers, next thing, you guys are gonna push the date back to 1925
when _Mein Kampf_ came out.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:23:50 PST 1996
Article: 12322 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> [responding toRachel Meredith Kadel (rkadel@fas.harvard.edu)]
>  
>>[endearment deleted] What I AM saying is that hemophiliacs are just
>>as likely to produce genetically INFERIOR children through random mating,
>>as they are to produce SUPERIOR children.  Hell, ANYONE is as likely to
>>produce inferior children as superior ones through random mating.  What
>>don't you understand?
> 
> What I don't understand is how, then, you can justify preventing
> hemophiliacs from having children if they wish to do so, unless you
> believe that there should be no "random mating" at all.
> What exactly do you mean by "random mating"?  To me the term means 
> the individual right to choose one's own mate.

BECAUSE, Laura, they have hemophilia ON TOP of their random matings.  Got
it yet?

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:23:51 PST 1996
Article: 12355 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Finsten the Green? (was: Repatriating Asians)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>(I *don't* want to turn this continent back to the bison, but for the sake of 
>>argument...)  
>>
>>Why not?  YOU guys want to turn it back over to the indians, who were a
>>bunch of environment-destroying savages.[even more racist bilge deleted]
> 
> Can you provide some evidence for your contention that native North Americans
> did more environmental damage in their more than 10,000 years on this continent
> than has been done since 1492?  There certainly were no PCBs in the Great Lakes,
> radioactivity in the Arctic Ocean, mountains of toxic coal slag, or smog
> before 1492.

Oh, please.  WHERE in ANY of my messages did I EVER say that Whites
were/are perfect?  But as another writer here has pointed out (I think it
was Orobourous), Whites are the ONLY race that try to CORRECT their errors.

B'sides, Fester, how does White environmental damage make non-White
transgression less remarkable?  This is reminiscent of the "Well, he did
it too!"  or the "That's not fair!" argument.  Not surprising, really,
that you liberals always revert to the same arguments when all else fails,
but it IS a little disappointing.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Jan 26 15:23:52 PST 1996
Article: 12356 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Hypocrits! You Don't Live With the Blacks, Because You Are Liars
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Arthur LeBouthillier (pendragn@cyberg8t.com) writes:
>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>
>>> Jews aren't white.  Geez, why do you guys keep coming up with
>>> this corn?
>>
>> What are the biological and physiological characteristics that
>> distinguish "white" and Jewish people?  If I were to convert to
>> Judaism, would that mean that I would no longer be "white"? (PS,
>> to the best of my knowledge, there are no people with surnames
>> like Moore, Morrison, or Morris in my family tree)
> 
> 
> Boy! You anti-racists really need racism to justify yourselves!!!
> What if we said that there are no biological/physiological
> characteristics? What if we said that White were only an ethnological
> term (like you guys imply)? Then what? You wouldn't know what to do!
> You NEED biological racism to justify your continuous hatred of
> Whites!!!

How true.  Minority racists and "anti-racists" NEED us to justify their
existence.  Just as police "hate-crimes" squads wouldn't exist without
"hate-crimes".

An interesting bit of trivia:  in the summer of '95, the Ottawa Police
Bias Crimes unit was apparently harrassing militia members because they
have short hair, and were mistaken by these doughnut-chompers for
skinheads.  Boy, talk about desperate!

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:28:40 PST 1996
Article: 21649 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>So now just having Hitler come to power in Germany in 1933 marks the
>>official beginning of the Holocaust.  I get it.  Herren, start your
>>engines, the official Holocaust may now begin... 
> 
> Well, you see, with the benefit of hindsight (for those who look, at
> least), it is apparent that Hitler's rise to power began the chain
> of events that led to the Holocaust.  You know, those innocuous things
> like the laws that deprived all Jews of their livelihood, land, basic 
> rights of citizenship and, ultimately, the right to live.   

Gee, Fester, using that logic, one could say that Hitler was instrumental
in the founding of Israel.  After all, he encouraged the jews to leave
Europe, so they swarmed into Palestine.  So why isn't his picture hanging
in the Knesset, with the words "Our Founder"?

(snip)
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:35:06 PST 1996
Article: 12482 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LOVE Black Women
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James Judd (jjudd@paranet.com) writes:
> 	Actually, black women are quite superior to white women. Think
> about it. What is your average white woman like? Whiny, bitchy, superficial,
> afraid of having kids because it might upset her weight. 

Please.  Don't confuse whiny, superficial, career-driven Yuppie bitches
with White women.

> That's why they aren't having kids anymore. 

No, they're not having kids anymore because the jews in the media have
convinced all too many of them that a "career" is more important than the
sanctity of our race.

(snip)

> Then one day, OUR standards of beauty will be the accepted standard in the
> US.

And I'll bet you can't wait, because you KNOW that negroes and negresses
simply CAN'T compete when it comes to aesthetics.  Except for Australian
Aborigines, negroes are the ugliest people on earth.  I need not go into
details; you KNOW it's true.

> You ever notice that white dudes that say a black woman is good lookin is
> when she looks at least a little white?

Doesn't that tell you something?  It certainly puts the lie to all that
"black pride" shit that we are constantly exposed to.

> Well, you just wait. The day is coming that BLACK will be the accepted
> standard of good looks. Hell, you whites are already scrambling for tanning
> booths!!! You know the day is coming!

Yes, it is. :-)

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:35:07 PST 1996
Article: 12483 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Utilitarian Les (was Re: Hemophillia...
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Chris Morton (cmort@nwohio.com) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews
> 
> Gee Less, if the fate of the White race hinges on such a pathetic
> collection of drooling products of generations of selective inbreeding
> as the Unnatural (in MANY ways) Alliance, that makes me even MORE glad
> I'm Black.

Oh.  So you're a negro.  That explains the retarded mental constructs and
"logic" in your messages.

> Of course since I've got many White friends and a few
> White ancestors, that would be tempered by my sadness at the
> inevitable decay and disappearance of Caucasian society.

Don't you know it!  Why, just look at Haiti for a shining example of what
negroes can accomplish on their own!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:35:08 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Uh-oh!  Andy's pissed! (was: The twat speaks up!)
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip - apparently, Andy-panda is really steamed that I called him a twat)

> If I were to say "Les is an asshole," I could have two possible meanings:
> (1) Les is literally an anal sphincter, in which case the sheer logistics
>     of typing would be daunting; or
> (2) I don't care much for Les, and, for a lack of anything substantive to
>     say, I resort to playground rhetoric.

Or, you could have the same general opinion of me as I have of you:  an
idiot with nothing to contribute, except a little comic relief.

> Indeed. Stay tuned. Les has already called me "twat," "Andy-Panda," and
> "Andyroid."

Typo.  Line noise, you know.

(snip)

> By their fruits shall ye know them, Les. Let's see it. You promise an
> electoral onslaught. 

I do?  Where?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:35:09 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>So now just having Hitler come to power in Germany in 1933 marks the
>>official beginning of the Holocaust.  I get it.  Herren, start your
>>engines, the official Holocaust may now begin... 
> 
> Well, you see, with the benefit of hindsight (for those who look, at
> least), it is apparent that Hitler's rise to power began the chain
> of events that led to the Holocaust.  You know, those innocuous things
> like the laws that deprived all Jews of their livelihood, land, basic 
> rights of citizenship and, ultimately, the right to live.   

Gee, Fester, using that logic, one could say that Hitler was instrumental
in the founding of Israel.  After all, he encouraged the jews to leave
Europe, so they swarmed into Palestine.  So why isn't his picture hanging
in the Knesset, with the words "Our Founder"?

(snip)
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:35:10 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:

(snip)

> Ireland's problem is the 'Black Irishman or Pug-faced Irishman'????
> How are the 'Black Irish' responsible the dispute in northern Ireland
> which, according to anyone who even reads a newspaper these days, is
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> clearly along religious (Catholic vs. Protestant) and republican vs.
> non-republican lines?

There's your problem right there, Fester.  We've TOLD you time and again
that the media is controlled by jews, and one has to take anything that
they write with a grain of salt (hell, a whole salt-lick).
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:33 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Y Reichsfeld (YREICHSF@MECHANICAL.uwaterloo.ca) whines:
> In article ,
>    bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>I picked up some stamps at the post office today.  Imagine my surprise
>>when the clerk handed me some "Holocaust" memorial stamps.  I was even
>>more surprised to learn that the "Holocaust" happened in the years
>>1933-1945.  This was what was printed on the stamp, along with about a
>>dozen jewish faces and a yellow star with the word "jude".  Now, I thought
>>that the official line about the holocaust was that it started after the
>>Wannsee conference (and its now infamous protocol) in 1942.  If so, how
>>can the holocaust have started 9 years earlier?  Did I miss something, or
>>was it just too difficult for them to keep track of all their lies....
>>
>>Sylvie Charbonneau
>>
>>
> No Sylvie, the holocaust started with the first boycott of jewish stores in 
> germany in 1933, now go flame someone else.

Oh, jeepers, next thing, you guys are gonna push the date back to 1925
when _Mein Kampf_ came out.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:34 PST 1996
Article: 16273 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> [responding toRachel Meredith Kadel (rkadel@fas.harvard.edu)]
>  
>>[endearment deleted] What I AM saying is that hemophiliacs are just
>>as likely to produce genetically INFERIOR children through random mating,
>>as they are to produce SUPERIOR children.  Hell, ANYONE is as likely to
>>produce inferior children as superior ones through random mating.  What
>>don't you understand?
> 
> What I don't understand is how, then, you can justify preventing
> hemophiliacs from having children if they wish to do so, unless you
> believe that there should be no "random mating" at all.
> What exactly do you mean by "random mating"?  To me the term means 
> the individual right to choose one's own mate.

BECAUSE, Laura, they have hemophilia ON TOP of their random matings.  Got
it yet?

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Finsten the Green? (was: Repatriating Asians)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>(I *don't* want to turn this continent back to the bison, but for the sake of 
>>argument...)  
>>
>>Why not?  YOU guys want to turn it back over to the indians, who were a
>>bunch of environment-destroying savages.[even more racist bilge deleted]
> 
> Can you provide some evidence for your contention that native North Americans
> did more environmental damage in their more than 10,000 years on this continent
> than has been done since 1492?  There certainly were no PCBs in the Great Lakes,
> radioactivity in the Arctic Ocean, mountains of toxic coal slag, or smog
> before 1492.

Oh, please.  WHERE in ANY of my messages did I EVER say that Whites
were/are perfect?  But as another writer here has pointed out (I think it
was Orobourous), Whites are the ONLY race that try to CORRECT their errors.

B'sides, Fester, how does White environmental damage make non-White
transgression less remarkable?  This is reminiscent of the "Well, he did
it too!"  or the "That's not fair!" argument.  Not surprising, really,
that you liberals always revert to the same arguments when all else fails,
but it IS a little disappointing.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:36 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LOVE Black Women
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James Judd (jjudd@paranet.com) writes:
> 	Actually, black women are quite superior to white women. Think
> about it. What is your average white woman like? Whiny, bitchy, superficial,
> afraid of having kids because it might upset her weight. 

Please.  Don't confuse whiny, superficial, career-driven Yuppie bitches
with White women.

> That's why they aren't having kids anymore. 

No, they're not having kids anymore because the jews in the media have
convinced all too many of them that a "career" is more important than the
sanctity of our race.

(snip)

> Then one day, OUR standards of beauty will be the accepted standard in the
> US.

And I'll bet you can't wait, because you KNOW that negroes and negresses
simply CAN'T compete when it comes to aesthetics.  Except for Australian
Aborigines, negroes are the ugliest people on earth.  I need not go into
details; you KNOW it's true.

> You ever notice that white dudes that say a black woman is good lookin is
> when she looks at least a little white?

Doesn't that tell you something?  It certainly puts the lie to all that
"black pride" shit that we are constantly exposed to.

> Well, you just wait. The day is coming that BLACK will be the accepted
> standard of good looks. Hell, you whites are already scrambling for tanning
> booths!!! You know the day is coming!

Yes, it is. :-)

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:37 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Utilitarian Les (was Re: Hemophillia...
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Chris Morton (cmort@nwohio.com) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews
> 
> Gee Less, if the fate of the White race hinges on such a pathetic
> collection of drooling products of generations of selective inbreeding
> as the Unnatural (in MANY ways) Alliance, that makes me even MORE glad
> I'm Black.

Oh.  So you're a negro.  That explains the retarded mental constructs and
"logic" in your messages.

> Of course since I've got many White friends and a few
> White ancestors, that would be tempered by my sadness at the
> inevitable decay and disappearance of Caucasian society.

Don't you know it!  Why, just look at Haiti for a shining example of what
negroes can accomplish on their own!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:38 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Uh-oh!  Andy's pissed! (was: The twat speaks up!)
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip - apparently, Andy-panda is really steamed that I called him a twat)

> If I were to say "Les is an asshole," I could have two possible meanings:
> (1) Les is literally an anal sphincter, in which case the sheer logistics
>     of typing would be daunting; or
> (2) I don't care much for Les, and, for a lack of anything substantive to
>     say, I resort to playground rhetoric.

Or, you could have the same general opinion of me as I have of you:  an
idiot with nothing to contribute, except a little comic relief.

> Indeed. Stay tuned. Les has already called me "twat," "Andy-Panda," and
> "Andyroid."

Typo.  Line noise, you know.

(snip)

> By their fruits shall ye know them, Les. Let's see it. You promise an
> electoral onslaught. 

I do?  Where?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:39 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>So now just having Hitler come to power in Germany in 1933 marks the
>>official beginning of the Holocaust.  I get it.  Herren, start your
>>engines, the official Holocaust may now begin... 
> 
> Well, you see, with the benefit of hindsight (for those who look, at
> least), it is apparent that Hitler's rise to power began the chain
> of events that led to the Holocaust.  You know, those innocuous things
> like the laws that deprived all Jews of their livelihood, land, basic 
> rights of citizenship and, ultimately, the right to live.   

Gee, Fester, using that logic, one could say that Hitler was instrumental
in the founding of Israel.  After all, he encouraged the jews to leave
Europe, so they swarmed into Palestine.  So why isn't his picture hanging
in the Knesset, with the words "Our Founder"?

(snip)
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Jan 27 21:41:40 PST 1996
Article: 16533 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:

(snip)

> Ireland's problem is the 'Black Irishman or Pug-faced Irishman'????
> How are the 'Black Irish' responsible the dispute in northern Ireland
> which, according to anyone who even reads a newspaper these days, is
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> clearly along religious (Catholic vs. Protestant) and republican vs.
> non-republican lines?

There's your problem right there, Fester.  We've TOLD you time and again
that the media is controlled by jews, and one has to take anything that
they write with a grain of salt (hell, a whole salt-lick).
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:14:27 PST 1996
Article: 21751 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Gee, Fester, using that logic, one could say that Hitler was instrumental
>>in the founding of Israel.  After all, he encouraged the jews to leave
>>Europe, so they swarmed into Palestine.  So why isn't his picture hanging
>>in the Knesset, with the words "Our Founder"?
> 
> The error in logic is yours.
> There is indeed a difference between intended and unintended
> consequences.  The Holocaust was an intended consequence of
> Nazi ideology.  Official Nazi policy and doctrine led directly
> and intentionally to the disenfranchisement and, ultimately, the 
> extermination of millions of Jews and others, by starvation,
> gassing and other methods.  It WAS official Nazi policy, in 
> other words, to kill Jews, and the Holocaust was the enactment
> of that policy.

Oh, please.  Simple fact is, but for Hitler, the jews wouldn't have gone
to Palestine, intentional or not.

> It was NOT official Nazi policy to attempt to create a separate
> state for Europe's Jews.

Yes it was.  In Madagascar.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:25:09 PST 1996
Article: 12567 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal ire (was: Hemophillia...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip - a lot of liberals whining like whimps over the FACT that "gifted"
refers to handicapped kids)

>... or maybe he's just trying to find a vulnerable group to scapegoat
> in order to make himself feel superior.

*yawn*

How boringly predictable.  Crazy, can't you come up with something
ORIGINAL?  I mean, doesn't your status as a "man of the cloth" supercede
your devotion to liberalism?
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:25:10 PST 1996
Article: 12568 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The decline of White America... oh well!
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James Judd (jjudd@paranet.svr) writes:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
>>
>> the decline of the Aryan Race spells utter doom for billions of less
>> evolved types around the world.  Once the minimum threshhold of
>> civilization-sustaining technical ability held solely by the Aryan Race is
>> lost, the technological and communication/transportation infrastructure
>> required to nourish colored hordes evaporates.  Put simply: no honkeys, no
>> poke chops and watuhmelon. 
>> 
> 	Oh, you must be joking. You don't think Blacks are smart enough to 
> operate machinery and make their own "poke chops"? Or to repair failing
> machinery?

In a word, no.

> Man, if you believe this, go to the armed forces and get a dose
> of reality. There are Black technicians working on all sorts of modern 
> equiptment! 

... and where would they be without White training, hmm?

> Besides, I doubt whites will EVER die out. Not unless they try
> some sort of war with us after we take over (not by force, by the very 
> instrument the WHITE man set up: DEMOCRACY). 

"Democracy" does NOT equal what we have today, mobocracy.

> We'll let them keep their precious intellectual jobs. Why not?

Uhm, because negro and intellectual go together like oil and water?

(snip)
 
>> Without the Aryan Race, there will BE NO COUNTRY.
>> Sneer on, Nigger.
>> 
> 	Yo, no need to get hostile. And, yes, I know you would like to
> THINK there would be no country. But you KNOW there will be. I mean, what
> exactly is going to happen to it, huh? Just dissapear? It won't be the same
> America, so maybe we'll rename it. Something less European like "New Africa".
> Nah, we'll keep it the same. Give whitey his due, that's what I always say.

Yes, why don't you?  For starters, you could repay us all the trillions of
dollars that have been spent on A.A. programs, and welfare.  Then, there's
the tally of Whites who have been killed by negroes, a la Colin Ferguson
or Hulon Jeffries.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:25:11 PST 1996
Article: 12569 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Cheering at the collapse of Aryan society
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What I wann know is, WHY are you non-whites practically drooling at the
thought of the Aryan race going extinct?  Are you perhaps deluding
yourselves into thinkg that you'll keep all the pluses, and get rid of all
the "negatives", if the Aryan race goes belly-up?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:25:12 PST 1996
Article: 12570 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: How does A. Walton, twat, handle his anger?
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>   :I get the distinct impression that Andy-panda Walton made life living
>   :hell for those around him for a week after I called him a "twat".  I'll
>   :bet he grumbled and bitched all the time, and made work sheer torment for
>   :anyone who had to deal with him.  His massive ego was probably bruised
>   :beyond recovery by that epithet.
> 
> You know, Les, you're cute when you get delusions of grandeur. C'mon, give
> us a kiss, sweetie.
> 
> As I said in another thread, I've been called far worse than "twat" by far
> better than you. If I can go through an entire poker game without being
> called a twat, either I'm having an off night or the stakes aren't high
> enough.

Oh, sure, Andy-panda.  How many filing cabinets did you slam shut?  How
many doors did you slam?  How many stenographers did you belittle in an
attempt to "prove" that you REALLY AREN'T a twat?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:31:39 PST 1996
Article: 16612 of alt.politics.white-power
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip - a lot of liberals whining like whimps over the FACT that "gifted"
refers to handicapped kids)

>... or maybe he's just trying to find a vulnerable group to scapegoat
> in order to make himself feel superior.

*yawn*

How boringly predictable.  Crazy, can't you come up with something
ORIGINAL?  I mean, doesn't your status as a "man of the cloth" supercede
your devotion to liberalism?
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:31:41 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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James Judd (jjudd@paranet.svr) writes:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
>>
>> the decline of the Aryan Race spells utter doom for billions of less
>> evolved types around the world.  Once the minimum threshhold of
>> civilization-sustaining technical ability held solely by the Aryan Race is
>> lost, the technological and communication/transportation infrastructure
>> required to nourish colored hordes evaporates.  Put simply: no honkeys, no
>> poke chops and watuhmelon. 
>> 
> 	Oh, you must be joking. You don't think Blacks are smart enough to 
> operate machinery and make their own "poke chops"? Or to repair failing
> machinery?

In a word, no.

> Man, if you believe this, go to the armed forces and get a dose
> of reality. There are Black technicians working on all sorts of modern 
> equiptment! 

... and where would they be without White training, hmm?

> Besides, I doubt whites will EVER die out. Not unless they try
> some sort of war with us after we take over (not by force, by the very 
> instrument the WHITE man set up: DEMOCRACY). 

"Democracy" does NOT equal what we have today, mobocracy.

> We'll let them keep their precious intellectual jobs. Why not?

Uhm, because negro and intellectual go together like oil and water?

(snip)
 
>> Without the Aryan Race, there will BE NO COUNTRY.
>> Sneer on, Nigger.
>> 
> 	Yo, no need to get hostile. And, yes, I know you would like to
> THINK there would be no country. But you KNOW there will be. I mean, what
> exactly is going to happen to it, huh? Just dissapear? It won't be the same
> America, so maybe we'll rename it. Something less European like "New Africa".
> Nah, we'll keep it the same. Give whitey his due, that's what I always say.

Yes, why don't you?  For starters, you could repay us all the trillions of
dollars that have been spent on A.A. programs, and welfare.  Then, there's
the tally of Whites who have been killed by negroes, a la Colin Ferguson
or Hulon Jeffries.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:31:42 PST 1996
Article: 16614 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Cheering at the collapse of Aryan society
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What I wann know is, WHY are you non-whites practically drooling at the
thought of the Aryan race going extinct?  Are you perhaps deluding
yourselves into thinkg that you'll keep all the pluses, and get rid of all
the "negatives", if the Aryan race goes belly-up?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:31:43 PST 1996
Article: 16615 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: How does A. Walton, twat, handle his anger?
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>   :I get the distinct impression that Andy-panda Walton made life living
>   :hell for those around him for a week after I called him a "twat".  I'll
>   :bet he grumbled and bitched all the time, and made work sheer torment for
>   :anyone who had to deal with him.  His massive ego was probably bruised
>   :beyond recovery by that epithet.
> 
> You know, Les, you're cute when you get delusions of grandeur. C'mon, give
> us a kiss, sweetie.
> 
> As I said in another thread, I've been called far worse than "twat" by far
> better than you. If I can go through an entire poker game without being
> called a twat, either I'm having an off night or the stakes aren't high
> enough.

Oh, sure, Andy-panda.  How many filing cabinets did you slam shut?  How
many doors did you slam?  How many stenographers did you belittle in an
attempt to "prove" that you REALLY AREN'T a twat?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 07:31:44 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Stewie's reaching (was: LOVE Black Women)
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shh () writes:
> I knew the answer, and you are 100% correct. It seems like many of us Non
> food stamp consuming, hard working, college educated Africans know the
> truth. As always, our job/burden is to educated the ignorant.
> In article <4e0efv$sis@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey tell me something, 
>> 	What single group of "Americans" consumes the largest amount of 
>> "welfare"-foodstamps?
>> 
>> If you said "White" "Anglo" "Euro"  If you said any group but these, 
>> then the media has done a great job on you, and people who misinformed  
>> like you!
>> 
>> "D"- A non food stamp consuming African!

PHEW!  Getting through that hatchet job on the English language was a job
and a half!  But I would like to make a point...

Are Whites using food stamps at SIX TIMES the frequency of negroes?  If
not, then shut your gob.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 09:13:58 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>So now just having Hitler come to power in Germany in 1933 marks the
>>official beginning of the Holocaust.  I get it.  Herren, start your
>>engines, the official Holocaust may now begin... 
> 
> Well, you see, with the benefit of hindsight (for those who look, at
> least), it is apparent that Hitler's rise to power began the chain
> of events that led to the Holocaust.  You know, those innocuous things
> like the laws that deprived all Jews of their livelihood, land, basic 
> rights of citizenship and, ultimately, the right to live.   

Gee, Fester, using that logic, one could say that Hitler was instrumental
in the founding of Israel.  After all, he encouraged the jews to leave
Europe, so they swarmed into Palestine.  So why isn't his picture hanging
in the Knesset, with the words "Our Founder"?

(snip)
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 10:37:52 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Utilitarian Les (was Re: Hemophillia...
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Chris Morton (cmort@nwohio.com) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews
> 
> Gee Less, if the fate of the White race hinges on such a pathetic
> collection of drooling products of generations of selective inbreeding
> as the Unnatural (in MANY ways) Alliance, that makes me even MORE glad
> I'm Black.

Oh.  So you're a negro.  That explains the retarded mental constructs and
"logic" in your messages.

> Of course since I've got many White friends and a few
> White ancestors, that would be tempered by my sadness at the
> inevitable decay and disappearance of Caucasian society.

Don't you know it!  Why, just look at Haiti for a shining example of what
negroes can accomplish on their own!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Jan 28 11:52:53 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The decline of White America... oh well!
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James Judd (jjudd@paranet.svr) writes:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
>>
>> the decline of the Aryan Race spells utter doom for billions of less
>> evolved types around the world.  Once the minimum threshhold of
>> civilization-sustaining technical ability held solely by the Aryan Race is
>> lost, the technological and communication/transportation infrastructure
>> required to nourish colored hordes evaporates.  Put simply: no honkeys, no
>> poke chops and watuhmelon. 
>> 
> 	Oh, you must be joking. You don't think Blacks are smart enough to 
> operate machinery and make their own "poke chops"? Or to repair failing
> machinery?

In a word, no.

> Man, if you believe this, go to the armed forces and get a dose
> of reality. There are Black technicians working on all sorts of modern 
> equiptment! 

... and where would they be without White training, hmm?

> Besides, I doubt whites will EVER die out. Not unless they try
> some sort of war with us after we take over (not by force, by the very 
> instrument the WHITE man set up: DEMOCRACY). 

"Democracy" does NOT equal what we have today, mobocracy.

> We'll let them keep their precious intellectual jobs. Why not?

Uhm, because negro and intellectual go together like oil and water?

(snip)
 
>> Without the Aryan Race, there will BE NO COUNTRY.
>> Sneer on, Nigger.
>> 
> 	Yo, no need to get hostile. And, yes, I know you would like to
> THINK there would be no country. But you KNOW there will be. I mean, what
> exactly is going to happen to it, huh? Just dissapear? It won't be the same
> America, so maybe we'll rename it. Something less European like "New Africa".
> Nah, we'll keep it the same. Give whitey his due, that's what I always say.

Yes, why don't you?  For starters, you could repay us all the trillions of
dollars that have been spent on A.A. programs, and welfare.  Then, there's
the tally of Whites who have been killed by negroes, a la Colin Ferguson
or Hulon Jeffries.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:15:57 PST 1996
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Neither, thanks.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:15:58 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: How does A. Walton, twat, handle his anger?
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip)

> And for what it's worth, my office has neither filing cabinets nor
> stenographers.

Sorry.  You're right.  I should have asked how many meat-freezers you
slammed shut, how many cash registers you pounded, and how many employees
of the month you sassed.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:16:00 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

(snip)

Stewie:
> : > Newsflash for Les: You are not the only person in society.  I'm here 
> : > too.  I DON'T CARE about your race problems, your pure Aryan genes, 
> : > your sanctity of White culture.  I believe in a dynamic culture, 
> : > because I see it every day and I know how and why it works and that 
> : > it's pretty much always been that way.  People come, people go, 
> : > cultures change, everyone lives.  

Moi: 
> : News flash for Stewie:  my ideas represent the coming future.  Yours
> : represent (at best) a cowardly solipsism.
> 
> Care to expand on that?  Sounds really bitchin' on the surface.

Typical liberal:  you want us to explain every little term for you, and
then you reject the definitions anyway, amid contentions that we're all
dreaming (or worse).

But, because it's you, and not some REAL liberal idiot, I'll make the effort:

A solipsist is one who thinks that the entire world is here for his
enjoyment, and his enjoyment alone.  A  solipsist has NO concern for the
future, and comes up with damn-fool statements like "Let's all just have
fun", and whimp-out shit like that.

> : > I DO care about a gigantic race riot, the social and economic 
> : > dissection of our society, and the possibility of open hatred being 
> : > directed against my minority friends.  These are the sorts of things 
> : > your ideas would cause.
> 
> : No, these are the sorts of things my ideas would PREVENT.  With no negroes
> : in white areas, there would be no negro race riots.  Same with any other
> : non-white group.
> 
> And you split society completely peacefully by... hmm.  You always skip 
> that part.

Nonsense.  The partitioning of the races can go as peacefully or as
bloodily as the jews and the champions of race-mixing want it to.  The
reason many of us are willing to resort to the stick, rather than JUST the
carrot, is that we have a somewhat more pragmatic view of human nature.

(snip)

> : > Yes.  Les, I'm not dumb.  Your implying it in every post just makes you 
> : > look sort of silly.  The point is, some of us do care.  What are you 
> : > going to say to us as you rip our country apart for your own ends?
> 
> : Really, Stewie?  You care?  About what, exactly?  You have resigned
> : yourself to the "we're-all-goners-anyway" crowd, so what is it you believe
> : in?  Having a fun time while the rest of White Western civilization goes
> : mams up?
> 
> People?  Eh, there's a new one.

What a load of manure.   You DON'T care about people who are concerned for
the future of their Race, and are willing to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to
secure the safety of their posterity.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:16:01 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Alien values and "alien's" values
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 (jdoe-539@alpha.c2.org) writes:
> On January 28, 1996 at 12:26 PM, Les Griswold responded to a post by Rob Kowalewsky. Rob asked why Griswold and Company opposed Asian/Americans and Asian Canadians who were "self-supporting, tax-paying, and contributing to the local and national economies."
> 
> Griswold responded "Because they bring a set of values that are totally ALIEN to ours, fella."
> 
> Yeah, Griswold. They bring values like:
> 
> honesty,
> decency,
> a sense of history,
> the ability to read without moving their lips,
> the ability to read....

You forgot a few:

-the ability to kidnap and cook family pets.

-the ability to let superstition affect economic decisions (apparently,
the housing market in Toronto is suffering because orientals will not buy
houses with a "4" in the address).

-the ability to redefine "honesty" and "integrity" to suit whatever seems
most expeditious at the moment, money-wise.

-the ability to think that crime is sacred because they've been practicing
it for centuries.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:16:01 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Honest Abe!
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip - Andy-panda getting all huffy because I mistakenly identified
Stephen Douglas as someone with whom he was vying for the presidency in
1860).

Andy:
>   ::This is true, but misleading in context. 
> 
> Frank:
>   :Misleading in context? Context of what? These are statements. Period.
>   :Forget context. These are Lincoln's views. Get it, dummie? What's wrong?
>   :Doesn't it seem fair to quote a President when it doesn't go your way?
>   :Life's a bitch, baby.
> 
> Grow up, take a deep breath, and sit down.
> 
> The above statements -- made by Les, not by Abraham Lincoln -- are
> misleading in the context he used them. Lincoln did debate Douglas. He
> later ran for President against Douglas. The way he put it, it sounded as
> if the famed Lincoln-Douglas debates too place in the 1860 Presidential
> election.

Sorry, Andy-panda.  But the point still stands, Lincoln DID say those
things about negroes.  But your nit-picking is EXACTLY the sort of thing
we've come to expect from you sorts:  don't talk about the real issue (A.
Lincoln's feelings towards negroes), but side-track it by niggling over
historical trivia.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:29:20 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Laura on conspiracies (was: Just a word on conspiracies...)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>>So White Nationalists, unlike jews, are forthright with their beliefs.
> 
> White Nationalists are organisations with ideological platforms and a
> fairly homogeneous set of political beliefs.  

Yes, like saving the White race, and removing jewish influence.

> Jews are people who share a very similar set of religious beliefs.

You can say THAT again!

> Jews, as a group, do not have a singular ideological platform or subscribe 
> to a homogeneous set of political beliefs.  

Oh, B.S.

> 	I repeat, if they did, you would see this as evidence of a conspiracy.
> 	However, there is no evidence that they do, and you have not presented
>  anything vaguely resembling credible evidence to support your assertion
>  that they do.

"Credible evidence", in your eyes, is anything that doesn't force one to
conclusions that you personally disagree with.  So go 'way with your
ranting about "credible evidence", because we know that it's just a
cover-up term for anything that agrees with your pet prejudices.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Neither, thanks.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Honest Abe!
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 (matthew.p2@ukonline.co.uk) writes:
>   Dear Lesley,
>   So Lincoln was a racist nutcase like all the rest of you.

Well, THAT'S a new one!

> Who gives a shit!

Uh, all those people who get all short-breathed when they refer to him as
the great emancipator?

> I've still yet to here an argument that can condone your childish views.
>                    GROW UP!!

OK!!!  But stop slaughtering the Queen's English first!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Canadian WP vs. American WP.
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Daniel Swan (dswan@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : 3)  I agree with you on the economic disparity bit.  The government is
> : doing everything in its power to equalize our standard of living with that
> : enjoyed by ganja-freaks and other Third World refuse, but that doesn't
> : mean we have less crime.  It's just hidden.
> 
> Hidden? How so?

Well, the term "hidden" refers to the fact that the media WON'T report on
what an unmitigated disaster its program of multiracialism is.  Just last
week, a nurse was beaten to death for her PURSE.  The suspect hasn't even
been SHOWN on television, nor has his picture appeared ANYWHERE.  What is
the government hiding?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Article: 16768 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip)

> And for what it's worth, my office has neither filing cabinets nor
> stenographers.

Sorry.  You're right.  I should have asked how many meat-freezers you
slammed shut, how many cash registers you pounded, and how many employees
of the month you sassed.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:29:26 PST 1996
Article: 16827 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Liberal brain"washing" (was: Demographic warfare)
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Stewart "Chicken a la" King (slking@scws35.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

(snip)

Stewie:
> : > Newsflash for Les: You are not the only person in society.  I'm here 
> : > too.  I DON'T CARE about your race problems, your pure Aryan genes, 
> : > your sanctity of White culture.  I believe in a dynamic culture, 
> : > because I see it every day and I know how and why it works and that 
> : > it's pretty much always been that way.  People come, people go, 
> : > cultures change, everyone lives.  

Moi: 
> : News flash for Stewie:  my ideas represent the coming future.  Yours
> : represent (at best) a cowardly solipsism.
> 
> Care to expand on that?  Sounds really bitchin' on the surface.

Typical liberal:  you want us to explain every little term for you, and
then you reject the definitions anyway, amid contentions that we're all
dreaming (or worse).

But, because it's you, and not some REAL liberal idiot, I'll make the effort:

A solipsist is one who thinks that the entire world is here for his
enjoyment, and his enjoyment alone.  A  solipsist has NO concern for the
future, and comes up with damn-fool statements like "Let's all just have
fun", and whimp-out shit like that.

> : > I DO care about a gigantic race riot, the social and economic 
> : > dissection of our society, and the possibility of open hatred being 
> : > directed against my minority friends.  These are the sorts of things 
> : > your ideas would cause.
> 
> : No, these are the sorts of things my ideas would PREVENT.  With no negroes
> : in white areas, there would be no negro race riots.  Same with any other
> : non-white group.
> 
> And you split society completely peacefully by... hmm.  You always skip 
> that part.

Nonsense.  The partitioning of the races can go as peacefully or as
bloodily as the jews and the champions of race-mixing want it to.  The
reason many of us are willing to resort to the stick, rather than JUST the
carrot, is that we have a somewhat more pragmatic view of human nature.

(snip)

> : > Yes.  Les, I'm not dumb.  Your implying it in every post just makes you 
> : > look sort of silly.  The point is, some of us do care.  What are you 
> : > going to say to us as you rip our country apart for your own ends?
> 
> : Really, Stewie?  You care?  About what, exactly?  You have resigned
> : yourself to the "we're-all-goners-anyway" crowd, so what is it you believe
> : in?  Having a fun time while the rest of White Western civilization goes
> : mams up?
> 
> People?  Eh, there's a new one.

What a load of manure.   You DON'T care about people who are concerned for
the future of their Race, and are willing to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to
secure the safety of their posterity.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan 29 09:29:27 PST 1996
Article: 16828 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: White supremacy makes a lot more sense than
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aria (none) writes:
>> 
>>         Ah come on, man, give whitey his due. I know Europeans are a shifty
>> sort (Europe kicked most of it's own kind out because they were CRIMINALS!),
>> and they steal a lot, but you can't deny the scientific revolution in
>> Europe.> 
>> 
>> 
>> James Judd

>    well said.  
> 
>    black people do need to start fessing up to their sins.  i know that
> most of our behavior is only the direct result of living in a nation that
> doesn't seem to give a FUCK about us, but the key to overcoming any and
> all obstacles is endurance, perseverence, and self-reliance.

Wake up, areodynamic.  The nation doesn't "give a FUCK" about MOST people.
 
>    keep your head up, brother, and fuck the next man if he don't understand.
> 
>                                                          aria
> 
>    (and don't forget that Asia might make a badass African ally one day. 

Dream on.

> once we all get tired of fighting one another over "the white Europen male
> (TM)"'s scraps, we'll have to take that shit to the next level.
> 
>    oh yeah; Sony Corporation just donated $2.5 million to my cinema
> school-- seems like amerika has no idea just how much that's going to cost
> them in the long run.  me, i'm heading for Japan next summer to study for
> a spell...)

Bon voyage!  DO tell us what the Japanese think of having a knee-grow in
their midst, would you?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Honest Abe!
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Android Walton (atticus@mindspring.com) writes:

(snip - Andy-panda getting all huffy because I mistakenly identified
Stephen Douglas as someone with whom he was vying for the presidency in
1860).

Andy:
>   ::This is true, but misleading in context. 
> 
> Frank:
>   :Misleading in context? Context of what? These are statements. Period.
>   :Forget context. These are Lincoln's views. Get it, dummie? What's wrong?
>   :Doesn't it seem fair to quote a President when it doesn't go your way?
>   :Life's a bitch, baby.
> 
> Grow up, take a deep breath, and sit down.
> 
> The above statements -- made by Les, not by Abraham Lincoln -- are
> misleading in the context he used them. Lincoln did debate Douglas. He
> later ran for President against Douglas. The way he put it, it sounded as
> if the famed Lincoln-Douglas debates too place in the 1860 Presidential
> election.

Sorry, Andy-panda.  But the point still stands, Lincoln DID say those
things about negroes.  But your nit-picking is EXACTLY the sort of thing
we've come to expect from you sorts:  don't talk about the real issue (A.
Lincoln's feelings towards negroes), but side-track it by niggling over
historical trivia.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 07:51:59 PST 1996
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Subject: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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geo (geo@azstarnet.com) writes:
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> : evil Beavis wrote:

(snip)

> : There is very little 'lovely' to be found in pure negro women. If you do
> : find a pretty one (like Lena Horn, or Harry Belafonte's daughter) Its
> : because they have white in them.
> 
> Don't you mean white women are pretty only if they have some black in them?

No, I think that George said what he meant, and meant what he said. 
Negresses are pretty only in proportion to the amount of White genes in
their make-up.

> Besides, how come all of a sudden these women aren't classified as black?

Um, because they're NOT?  They're mulatresses, quadroons, octoroons, etc...

> Well, guess what?  I'm not black either by your standards, however I do
> go through a black experience in this nation & I like millions of mixed 
> blacks, who look ten times as fine as your white ho's, consider ourselves
> black & proud!  So don't even try it.  As a mixed black, I find mixed
> blacks most attractive.  Probably as you find whites attractive &
> Africans find African women attractive,

Yeah, like O.J., eh?

> Sorry man, but we don't find Miss Monroe to be the "Most beautiful woman
> in the world" anymore! 

Neither do I.  She's pretty, but nothing to lose your head over. 
Especially once her low morality is figured in.

> Better pull down that white ho' clown!  I for one
> don't think pure white women are beautiful.  I mean look at that mayonaise
> you are sending over from Britain! 

Uh-oh, a mulatress doesn't approve of our aesthetic standards!  Stop the
world, I wann get off!

> Princes Di is ugly! 

Morally, yes.

(snip - remainder of negrophile rant deleted)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 07:52:01 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) snips:
> 
>>>Exposure of your ideas weakens you. 
> 
>>Expose away, then...
> 
> You are doing a fine job of making clear to Canadians what you are 
> all about right here.  Every time you express your ideas in this
> forum thousands of people find out what "white nationalists" are
> all about.

Ever get the idea that maybe that's not such a bad thing (from our point
of view)?

>>> [you define white so as to exclude]... also Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, 
>>> Hungarian, and Greek Canadians to name just a few.
>>
>>Some.
> 
> Do you know what proportion of Canada's population are Italian, Portuguese,
> Greek and Hungarian in origin, Mr. Griswold?  Do you think that all of 
> those folks are going to be reassured by your statement that, well, yes
> "some" of them don't qualify as "white" by your books?

The truth may be painful to some, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: German success stories (was: Repatriating Asians)
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Mark Staloff (staloff@scws45.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

(BIG snip)

> : Do tell.  Germany also has a lot of GERMANS, at least for the time being. 
> : Never stopped to think that MAYBE that has SOMETHING to do with the
> : economic success of Germany?
> 
>   Why is it when Germans succeed in the west, it's because of race, and 
> if they fail in the east, it's because of ideology? 

Because, Markie, in both case, the Germans are the constant factor.  The
ideologies of the former West and East Germanies were "democracy" and
"communism".  But both West and East Germany had Germans.  They BOTH also
had large numbers of non-Whites, in East Germany they imported communists
>from  Vietnam and Cuba as "guest workers".  Which reminds me of a funny
story...

This East German lady I knew (who was, BTW, a baroness, and was looking
into reclaiming her title after the reunion of Germany, her title having
been taken away by the commies) told me about some "guest workers" from
Vietnam.  They didn't know how to use blankets, and they didn't understand
the principle behind a simple pulley!

> And why didn't the German colonies take off economically?  

What does colonialism have to do with economic success in the homelands?

> Also, the Jews in Germany were quite prosperous - is this evidence of their 
> conniving evil nature, 

You have to ask! :-)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 07:52:03 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>But back to the point: Why would there be such a GLARING error on the
>>stamp if it wasn't purposeful?  Most high school kids (and even elementary
>>school kids) know that the war occurred from 1939-1945. (1942-1945 if
>>you're American :-) )  So why would they distort the facts if it wasn't
>>part of a campaign to guilt the White population into spending more money
>>for anti-racism campaigns, "holocaust" memorials, etc...
> 
> Why do you pre-suppose a "glaring error," Ms. Charbonneau?

Okay, "deliberately misleading propaganda".  Is that better?

> Because mass killing did not begin in 1933? Because (in your
> mind, at least) the killing did not begin until after the war
> began?

When DID the mass killings begin, Kenny?  C'mon, show us all that you
DESERVE your OBC!
 
> The Holocaust certainly would not have occurred had the Wiemar
> regime remained in power, for all of its faults, so there is
> more than a little merit in establishing a direct causal link
> between the ascension of the Nazis and the deliberate attempt
> to exterminate European Jewry, not to mention 5.5 million
> other "useless eaters."

Nor would Israel have been founded in 1948 if the National Socialists had
not come to power, and encouraged so many jews to flee into Palestine, to
the eternal delight of the Moslems.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 07:52:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) writes:
> In article <4editd$s1b@pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com>, white@nyc.pipeline.com (James White) says:
>>
>>On Jan 27, 1996 01:25:49 in article >brain"washing")>, 'bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)' wrote: 
>> 
>>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies 
>>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist 
>>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the 
>>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews 
>> 
>>No organization of ignorant misfits and degenerate dwarfs will ever lead
>>any successful revolution. 
>> 
> Since this was directed against Les, could you please explain why a 
> security firm would want to employ a dwarf?  In case you are unaware of
> basic reality, dwarves lack any ability to intimidate, which is surely
> one of the key roles of a security guard.  While I would not normally 
> respond to such a fickle outburst of emotion, you and your compatriots
> seem to think that if you repeat something often enough, it becomes fact.
> Could you also please state your criteria for dwarfism. Do you follow
> normal convention or do you follow your own standard? 

Oh, definitely, Jacob follows his own standard.  NO-ONE dictates his ideas
to him, even if he can't quite get it straight whether he's a German, or
an "African-American".
 
> One last question, do you and your compatriots have competitions on who
> can be portrayed the least intelligent?  If there are such competitions, 
> I congratulate you on your fine win as I doubt any of your fellows could
> match your lastest tactic in arguing.  
> 
> Waiting for the next liberal to supercede James White's lessons in 
> stupidity. 

You'll be waiting a pretty long time for ANYONE to exceed Jacob's intellect.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 09:27:02 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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geo (geo@azstarnet.com) writes:
> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> : evil Beavis wrote:

(snip)

> : There is very little 'lovely' to be found in pure negro women. If you do
> : find a pretty one (like Lena Horn, or Harry Belafonte's daughter) Its
> : because they have white in them.
> 
> Don't you mean white women are pretty only if they have some black in them?

No, I think that George said what he meant, and meant what he said. 
Negresses are pretty only in proportion to the amount of White genes in
their make-up.

> Besides, how come all of a sudden these women aren't classified as black?

Um, because they're NOT?  They're mulatresses, quadroons, octoroons, etc...

> Well, guess what?  I'm not black either by your standards, however I do
> go through a black experience in this nation & I like millions of mixed 
> blacks, who look ten times as fine as your white ho's, consider ourselves
> black & proud!  So don't even try it.  As a mixed black, I find mixed
> blacks most attractive.  Probably as you find whites attractive &
> Africans find African women attractive,

Yeah, like O.J., eh?

> Sorry man, but we don't find Miss Monroe to be the "Most beautiful woman
> in the world" anymore! 

Neither do I.  She's pretty, but nothing to lose your head over. 
Especially once her low morality is figured in.

> Better pull down that white ho' clown!  I for one
> don't think pure white women are beautiful.  I mean look at that mayonaise
> you are sending over from Britain! 

Uh-oh, a mulatress doesn't approve of our aesthetic standards!  Stop the
world, I wann get off!

> Princes Di is ugly! 

Morally, yes.

(snip - remainder of negrophile rant deleted)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 09:27:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Holocaust stamp from Canada Post
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>>But back to the point: Why would there be such a GLARING error on the
>>stamp if it wasn't purposeful?  Most high school kids (and even elementary
>>school kids) know that the war occurred from 1939-1945. (1942-1945 if
>>you're American :-) )  So why would they distort the facts if it wasn't
>>part of a campaign to guilt the White population into spending more money
>>for anti-racism campaigns, "holocaust" memorials, etc...
> 
> Why do you pre-suppose a "glaring error," Ms. Charbonneau?

Okay, "deliberately misleading propaganda".  Is that better?

> Because mass killing did not begin in 1933? Because (in your
> mind, at least) the killing did not begin until after the war
> began?

When DID the mass killings begin, Kenny?  C'mon, show us all that you
DESERVE your OBC!
 
> The Holocaust certainly would not have occurred had the Wiemar
> regime remained in power, for all of its faults, so there is
> more than a little merit in establishing a direct causal link
> between the ascension of the Nazis and the deliberate attempt
> to exterminate European Jewry, not to mention 5.5 million
> other "useless eaters."

Nor would Israel have been founded in 1948 if the National Socialists had
not come to power, and encouraged so many jews to flee into Palestine, to
the eternal delight of the Moslems.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jan 30 12:18:44 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Answering Charbonneau's Questions
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Arthur LeBouthillier (pendragn@cyberg8t.com) writes:

(snip)

> I think she's right. What is the cause and effect? (ie, of never-ending
jewish wailing about Shoahbusiness, better known as the hollow-cause)
> Does White survival = dead Jews? It doesn't to me. The two have nothing
> whatsoever in common. Are you people going to blame all White people
> for whatever you think the Germans might have done? Is the death of
> those Jews more important than the 40million+ killed by communism?
> Do you go and hunt out every last vestige of Marxism, like Social
> Democracy and blame it for those deaths, ultimately seeking to
> eliminate it from the face of the earth, like you do White existence?

Simple:  Marxism/Communism is a jewish creation, and it doesn't threaten
jewish existence.  White Nationalism doesn't necessarily threaten jewish
existence either, but it serves as a constant reminder that there is
someone (or many someones) out there who is better than the jews, and they
just can't stand that, even if it's true.

I know that many whiners will ask how I can say such "awful" things, but
it's very obvious:  if we got rid of all jews tomorrow, what would happen
to civilization?  By the same token, what would happen to civilization if
we eliminated the White race?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 31 15:23:38 PST 1996
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article <4elib3$3it@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, 
> stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros) wrote:
> 
>>Since this was directed against Les, could you please explain why a 
>>security firm would want to employ a dwarf?  In case you are unaware of
>>basic reality, dwarves lack any ability to intimidate, which is surely
>>one of the key roles of a security guard.  While I would not normally 
> 
> That's pretty funny... When I was in Ottawa, I availed myself
> of the opportunity to, er, visit certain government buildings.
> Mr. Griswold would be hard-pressed to intimidate a parked
> mountain bike, let alone a human. As someone who sleeps around
> with Nazis once pointed out, he's "...a greasy little wimp."
> 
> I concur.
> 
>>respond to such a fickle outburst of emotion, you and your compatriots
>>seem to think that if you repeat something often enough, it becomes fact.
>>Could you also please state your criteria for dwarfism. Do you follow
>>normal convention or do you follow your own standard? 
>>
>>One last question, do you and your compatriots have competitions on who
>>can be portrayed the least intelligent?  If there are such competitions, 
>>I congratulate you on your fine win as I doubt any of your fellows could
>>match your lastest tactic in arguing.  
>>
>>Waiting for the next liberal to supercede James White's lessons in 
>>stupidity. 
>>
>>Ourobouros.

I think you found your man, Ourobouros!  I should have remembered, Kenny
McOyvay, OBC, is the biggest idiot around!


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squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 31 15:23:39 PST 1996
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Rob "Yes dear, anything you say dear" Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:

(snip)
  
> Looking at the slightly larger picture, it truely is an impressive Gallery
> of Goofups that our Nutzee bretheren and sisteren seem to worship and hold
> up as examples:
> 
> Randy Weaver (criminal, widower)

BWAHAHAHA!!!  This is rich!

"Criminal" because the BATF entrapped him into agreeing to sell them a
shotgun that had a barrel length ONE-QUARTER INCH shorter than "legal".

"Widower" because a (non-White) government sniper shot his wife.
 
Y'know, Robbie, your slavish adherence to whatever the government says
MUST be so is quite sickening.

> A '57 Nash on the Information SuperHighway

More like roadkill.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 31 21:50:20 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Utilitarian Les (was Re: Hemophillia...
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William R. Discipio Jr (discipio@crl.com) writes:
> Duncan R. MacMillan (Duncan@drmac.demon.co.uk) wrote:

(snip)

> : > What is the Ivory Coast's per capita GNP in real terms?
> 
> : 	In real terms? zero. Twelve months ago, OVERNIGHT, its currency lost
> : 50% of any value it had because France could no longer support "franc zone"
> : currencies and ended its commitments.
> 
> Talk about the currency devaluation under your beloved leader, Adolf.

Yes, let's.  Hitler WAS in power from 1933, not 1939, although I suppose
you'd like to imagine that he did NOTHING from 1933-1938, and the first
eight months of 1939.
   
> : > :  	 Botswana is as big as France and Spain combined, has a population of
> : > : one million people, ten biilion buffalo and is South Africa's cattle ranch. 
> 
> : > Gee, its easy to be be dismissive isn't it.
> : 	
> : 	Of Negroes, frankly, yes.
> 
> Botwana also has a very strong tradition of self government and self 
> reliance.  Botswana does not have ten biilion (sic) buffalo and it is not 
> South Africa's cattle ranch.

Ya know what I heard once?  The entire GNP of sub-Saharan Africa is equal
to the GNP of Belgium!
 
Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jan 31 21:56:05 PST 1996
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Djadja Cromanta (rosita@fwi.uva.nl) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les
> Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>> No, I think that George said what he meant, and meant what he said. 
>> Negresses are pretty only in proportion to the amount of White genes in
>> their make-up.

> I am of mixed African and Asian Indian race and according to nutshells like
> you the same applies to me. Is this the answer to get all the "ugliness"
> out of the world.
> 
> In fact I think that ugly looking people say ugly things because they were
> treated according to their ugliness by the world. So I can picture you as
> follows:
> - very sharp nose, pointing like a knife into the world. At least you can't
> loose your direction in space, due to the mirror only in your soul.
> - Shall I go on? No, I'm not a racist!

Perhaps you aren't a "racist", but you definitely ARE a nutcase!

I really couldn't care less if your insecurity (which comes from the
knowledge that you CAN'T measure up to Aryan standards of aesthetics)
causes you to flame me; fact remains, though, that negroes are very
un-beautiful, all huffing and puffing to the contrary.

One request, if I may:  could you NOT post senseless drivel like that
above?  It hurts my brain to try and muddle through it.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 09:03:18 PST 1996
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Gord McFee (gmcfee@ibm.net) writes:
> In , bn946@freenet.carleton.ca said:

(snip - wrangling over Hitler saying in _Mein Kampf_ that at the centre of
everything corrupt, was a jew)

>>That's because, McFly, Hitler has not been able to benefit from a
>>conspiracy to keep his words hidden, like the jews have.
> 
> By the way, I notice you call both Mr. McVay and me "McFly".  Do we look
> that much alike?

No.  It's like this.  Rev. Ron calls McOyVay "McFly".  _I_ call you McFly.
 Keep it straight, you stupid shabbas goy.

Les



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Stewart King (slking@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : (snip - the rest of Abdrool's off-target fantasizing deleted, because it's
> : just a bunch of nonsensical gum-beating that tries to use economics and
> : politics to excuse negro incapability)
> 
> Heaven forfend economics and politics should ever have anything to do with 
> anything.  It's all race race race, oh yes.

Interesting, Stewie, that you clipped the part of Abdrool's message that I
responded to.  No matter.  

FYI, I never denied that economics and politics had something to do with
the situation in Africa.  They most certainly did.  However, Abdrool's
message made it quite clear that race had NOTHING to do with it.  The
"it's all economics and politics!" whine as an excuse for negro
incompetence is wearing kind of thin.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 09:16:12 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Whats wrong with Griswold?  Why, not a blessed thing!
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Yes, I did.  But I also said that the Whites did this because they had an
>>incorrect grasp of judaism, regarding it to be just a religion, when it
>>damn well wasn't.  Had they correctly identified the jews as a RACE and
>>not a RELIGION, this would have been prevented.
> 
> Horsepucky. Culture? Yes, race? Not a hope. Where _do_ you get
> this crap, Mr. Griswold?

Oh, please.  Don't tell me that you believe that "Jews are just like us,
except they go to church on Saturday!" 

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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 09:16:13 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Canada's Hate-crime laws
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Eric Blace (ad792@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> 
>> But these leftist yahoss never think about that.  All that will fit into
>> their chipmunk brains is that "Natsees" have to be stopped, at ANY cost.
>> 
>> Les
>> 
> So what's your point? There is nothing wrong about getting rid of nazis.
> The sooner the better.  I mean really, what useful purpose do they serve?
> None that I can see, except maybe taking up way to much bandwidth. 
> Any cost? Sure, why not. If we need more manure, there is always cattle.

You know, Eric, EXACTLY the same thing can be (and has been) said about
leftists.  You REALLY think that you useful idiots will be kept for one
second longer than the point where your usefullness ends?

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 10:20:47 PST 1996
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>Yes, I did.  But I also said that the Whites did this because they had an
>>incorrect grasp of judaism, regarding it to be just a religion, when it
>>damn well wasn't.  Had they correctly identified the jews as a RACE and
>>not a RELIGION, this would have been prevented.
> 
> Horsepucky. Culture? Yes, race? Not a hope. Where _do_ you get
> this crap, Mr. Griswold?

Oh, please.  Don't tell me that you believe that "Jews are just like us,
except they go to church on Saturday!" 

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From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 10:20:48 PST 1996
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Eric Blace (ad792@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> 
>> But these leftist yahoss never think about that.  All that will fit into
>> their chipmunk brains is that "Natsees" have to be stopped, at ANY cost.
>> 
>> Les
>> 
> So what's your point? There is nothing wrong about getting rid of nazis.
> The sooner the better.  I mean really, what useful purpose do they serve?
> None that I can see, except maybe taking up way to much bandwidth. 
> Any cost? Sure, why not. If we need more manure, there is always cattle.

You know, Eric, EXACTLY the same thing can be (and has been) said about
leftists.  You REALLY think that you useful idiots will be kept for one
second longer than the point where your usefullness ends?

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 13:31:25 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Milton Kleim" writes:
>> So what if he said that?  I agree.  Jewry has contributed very little, 
>> and exploited very much, from Western Civilization.  Certainly any 
>> innocent creature's death is sad (yes, even Jews), but there must be 
>> priorities on every issue.  
> 
> Not true about Jewry: they have given us the atom bomb, the H-bomb, the neutron
> bomb, psychoanalysis and communism. 
> 
> Seriously though, they have also given us Ayn Rand and a host of Libertarians
> and a high percentage of scientists etc. I am perfectly willing to give the Jews
> credit for their good guys, as long as they take credit for their scumbags as
> well.

Just answer these two related questions, Alex:  

1)  Could we (Whites) survive without the jews?

2)  Could the jews survive without us?

>> _The Turner Diaries_ is one of the most eye-opening books for Aryans in 
>> the history of the world.  Anyone serious about securing our heritage 
>> MUST read it.
> 
> Bollocks. Again, are you working for the ADL buddy? 

Alex, I can hardly credit you with having written this.  In your world,
there are obviously only three types of people:  jews, their lackeys, and you.

(snip)

Les


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 17:17:18 PST 1996
Article: 9811 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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Subject: Re: Nairobi's decline: Is it Racial?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:

(snip)

Abdrool Kama:
>> > The reason is both historic, political and economic.  Historically, Africa
>> > has never had the strategic importance places like Japan or Korea ( Hong Kong
>> > being a british territory, it is irrelevant to our discussion here) had. 
>> 
>> Oh, give it a rest, you ignorant gum-flapping tree-swinger.  Africa has
>> mineral wealth, the greatest in the world.  Japan and Korea DON'T.  As
>> long as the White Western nations maintained colonies in Africa, Africans
>> did all right.  When they left, due to misplaced philanthropy or guilt,
>> Africa collapsed.  The same thing can be said of India.
> 
> What is the "mineral wealth" you speak of in India?
> 
> I don't think there's much.

I should have expected that somebody (maybe several somebodies) would get
it wrong.  I was refering to the misplaced philanthropy and/or guilt
causing the British to skedaddle out of India.  The Indians were a lot
better off when the British were there.

BTW, India was favourably positioned on the trade routes to the Far East,
wasn't it?  I highly doubt that the British were there just for the hell
of it.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jan  1 23:44:40 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Nairobi's decline: Is it Racial?
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Michael Rimpel (rimp1@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Dec 31, 1995 21:03:35 in article ,
> 'slking@course2.harvard.edu (Stewart King)' wrote: 
>  
>>Please demonstrate what race had to do with it, using appropriate  
>>evidence, and further demonstrate that these race issues cannot be traced 
>>to deeper economic, social and political issues, and then maybe we'll be  
>>onto something.   

> Or even better ask why Eastern Europe is in such turmoil since its
> populated by nice even tempered white people. 

Simple, buddy-boy.  Much of the turmoil in Eastern Europe is caused by the
former governments shoving racially diverse, in some cases non-white, groups. 
Examples of the latter include the Chechnyans (sp?) and the Bosnian Muslims.

Les



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Cubbybear (cubbybear@aol.com) writes:
>>>>bn946 wrote:
> Probably the funniest contribution to date, and so typical of how the
> multiculturalists deal with the issue, has been James White's total denial
> of the phenomenon, dismissing it as "unadulterated bullshit".<<<
>    
> It is amazing that this practice has been hidden and not reported for so
> long.  I heard about it 3 years ago when my local newspaper reprinted
> several articles about it during the "Year of the Woman", then saw a
> national TV 'expose''.  Obviously, underreported because it does mostly
> affect African countries.

I'm really interested in how the dynamics of this as anti-woman are going
to be handled.  That is, since the practice of female circumcision only
affects women directly (obviously!), will it be decried as misogynistic,
or since it is a Muslim practice, will it be dismissed as the indigenous
practice of another religion/culture, over which we have no right to pass
judgement?

BTW, I took alt.fan.oj-simpson out of the NG line, and put
alt.discrimination back in.

Les



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George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
>> > In article ,
>> > bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> >
>> >>Yes, I did.  But I also said that the Whites did this because they had an
>> >>incorrect grasp of judaism, regarding it to be just a religion, when it
>> >>damn well wasn't.  Had they correctly identified the jews as a RACE and
>> >>not a RELIGION, this would have been prevented.
>> >
>> > Horsepucky. Culture? Yes, race? Not a hope. Where _do_ you get
>> > this crap, Mr. Griswold?
>> 
>> Oh, please.  Don't tell me that you believe that "Jews are just like us,
>> except they go to church on Saturday!"
> 
> For anyone who doesn't think that the Jews are are a race with racial
> characteristics, try this one. 
> Have you ever heard someone say "Funny, he doesn't look Jewish"?
> Now try it with a Catholic. 'Funny, he doesn't look Catholic" Nah,
> it doesn't work. I mean, what does a Catholic look like? On the other
> han we know what Jews look like (or rather I know what Jews look like.
> You could too, if you studied them enough to learn what physical 
> characteristics are Jewish).

Kenny knnows damn well that jews are a RACE.  But no-one will EVER get him
to admit it.  He knows all about them, (it's inevitable, when one becomes a
champion for them), but he can't afford to come clean - he has too much
invested in propagating the lie that they're just like us.

Les




From finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca Wed Jan  3 16:10:23 PST 1996
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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
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The "Native Americans" were NOT in the U.S. first. 
>They were in the territory that the WHITE MAN DEVELOPED into the U.S., but
>would have stayed nomadic wandering grounds for all eternity under the
>indians.
>
>Les

Actually, at the time Europeans appeared on the Atlantic shores, native North Americans in many parts of the continent were settled =
farmers.  Examples include Iroquoian speaking peoples of the Great Lakes region, the Pueblo groups of the American Southwest, and a =
variety of groups in the southeast, including the Natchez.  Tribes of the Northwest Coast were not agriculturalists, but were perman=
ently settled rather than nomadic.  And if you are implying that "nomadic wandering" means "aimless wandering", it doesn't.  People =
who live off the land as hunter-gatherers generally exploit the resources of their territories very systematically.  Just because th=
ey don't put malls, parking lots and fast food restaurants all over it doesn't mean they don't use the land effectively.

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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>Gawd, you libs are so STUPID!

Perhaps I missed it, but I still haven't seen you answer the more
salient part of my question.  Given your assumptions and logic,
you must be drawn to conclude that during their era of world
history, Andean South American and Middle American native peoples
were far superior to Europeans (because, according to you, 
"architectural ability" is equated with "racial superiority", and
at the time these folks were constructing some pretty amazing
buildings in the new world, Europe was, well, full of hovels).

Do you acknowledge this, Mr. Griswold?  If not, please explain
what your reasoning is?  [hint, don't bluster with name-calling
and cutesy misspellings of people's names, EXPLAIN your assumptions,
and go through the logical steps that bring you to your conclusion].




From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jan 18 09:09:28 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: This is absolutely disgusting (CLOC & asl)
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RaCiAL ThEoRiSt (xyz@scsn.net) writes:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
> 
>>I went over to alt.support.loneliness last night.  I HOPED Quittner was
>>mistaken or lying.  He wasn't.  It made me sick.  What you are doing is
>>the equivalent of raping civilians.  I will NOT tolerate it.
> 
> quittner's story was on the money except for the part he left out
> about how we're in this newsgroup to help lonely people.  and if you
> have any concern for lonely people, you'll help too,  milt.

Like HELL you post to help lonely people, or for any other legitimate
purpose.  You're just here to screw around, and make a name for yourself
and CLOC.  I think it's disgusting.

Les

--
"Any damn fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man
to learn from someone else's experience."
		-- someone


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Mar  7 13:27:57 PST 1996
Article: 75758 of soc.culture.usa
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Nairobi's decline: Is it Racial?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:

(snip)

Abdrool Kama:
>> > The reason is both historic, political and economic.  Historically, Africa
>> > has never had the strategic importance places like Japan or Korea ( Hong Kong
>> > being a british territory, it is irrelevant to our discussion here) had. 
>> 
>> Oh, give it a rest, you ignorant gum-flapping tree-swinger.  Africa has
>> mineral wealth, the greatest in the world.  Japan and Korea DON'T.  As
>> long as the White Western nations maintained colonies in Africa, Africans
>> did all right.  When they left, due to misplaced philanthropy or guilt,
>> Africa collapsed.  The same thing can be said of India.
> 
> What is the "mineral wealth" you speak of in India?
> 
> I don't think there's much.

I should have expected that somebody (maybe several somebodies) would get
it wrong.  I was refering to the misplaced philanthropy and/or guilt
causing the British to skedaddle out of India.  The Indians were a lot
better off when the British were there.

BTW, India was favourably positioned on the trade routes to the Far East,
wasn't it?  I highly doubt that the British were there just for the hell
of it.

Les



From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Mar  7 13:27:58 PST 1996
Article: 75767 of soc.culture.usa
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Nairobi's decline: Is it Racial?
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Michael Rimpel (rimp1@nyc.pipeline.com) writes:
> On Dec 31, 1995 21:03:35 in article ,
> 'slking@course2.harvard.edu (Stewart King)' wrote: 
>  
>>Please demonstrate what race had to do with it, using appropriate  
>>evidence, and further demonstrate that these race issues cannot be traced 
>>to deeper economic, social and political issues, and then maybe we'll be  
>>onto something.   

> Or even better ask why Eastern Europe is in such turmoil since its
> populated by nice even tempered white people. 

Simple, buddy-boy.  Much of the turmoil in Eastern Europe is caused by the
former governments shoving racially diverse, in some cases non-white, groups. 
Examples of the latter include the Chechnyans (sp?) and the Bosnian Muslims.

Les




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