From email@example.com Sun Apr 7 11:22:13 PDT 1996 Article: 30096 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!news.unb.ca!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!news.utdallas.edu!news01.aud.alcatel.com!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news3.digex.net!access5!karlpov From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Charles R.L. Power) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: 50,000,000 "ordinary" Germans Date: 6 Apr 1996 15:47:16 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 38 Message-ID:
References: <email@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: access5.digex.net firstname.lastname@example.org (tom moran) writes: > This is a continuation of the expose on the book "Ordinary >Germans" by Professor Goldhagen of Harvard University. Moron, it might help if you had the brains or honesty or care to cite the title correctly: it's HITLER'S WILLING EXECUTIONERS: ORDINARY GERMANS AND THE HOLOCAUST, by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen. You may be confusing this book with another one, Christopher R. Browning's ORDINARY MEN: RESERVE POLICE BATTALION 101 AND THE FINAL SOLUTION IN POLAND. Browning's book demonstrated that the perpetrators of the Holocaust were not limited to SS fanatics, nor were the men involved under any threats forcing them to kill defenseless civilians en masse. Goldhagen, looking at the same material (and much more), shows that even Browning has tended to make excuses for the perpetrators, with theories on how they "overcame" their "reluctance" to kill. Goldhagen demonstrates that there is no reason to believe they had any reluctance to overcome: having been indoctrinated with antisemitic propaganda for hundreds of years, German society of the '30s and '40s was just as ready to go after Jews as were certain colonial New Englanders to go after women accused of witchcraft. (Yes, Goldhagen makes that parallel, and many others, himself. He certainly doesn't argue that Germans are unique in their bloodthirst.) > What about a book "Ordinary Jews'? What about one? Certainly if you could offer an analysis of contemporary Jewish society on a par with Goldhagen's of German society before and during the Third Reich, showing widespread and practically unanswered fantastical ideas about the inherent evil of the "Palestinian race," I'd be interested in seeing it. The problem is that Jewish society is not nearly so monolithic (nor, even, is Israeli society from what I can see), and that the threats seen as emanating from Palestinians are all too real. But of course your suggestion is intended as a counterpoint to a book titled ORDINARY GERMANS which exists only in your fantasy world.
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