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From: "Ben Smith" 
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"Blakely"  wrote in message
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> Destroying Tavish was fun and the right thing to do.
>
> Exposing PsychoSara as mentally ill sadism was the correct thing to
> do. Don't argue with me, the DSM-IV list sadist as a mental illness.
> Get help PsychoSara.
>
> John Morris continues to defend people who joke about their children
> being trained as sexual dommes.
>
> KCOM has gone full tilt.
>
> PsychoSara is in full retreat and apologizes for bringing her father
> into this ceespool and apologizes to Bradbury as well. But it's too
> late.
>
> Don, they have been forging your name again old friend.
>
> Joe, don't let children like KCOM and his false emails get to you.
> Ignore the little bastard, he is just trying to get attention. A young
> Salzman in training it appears.
>
> Now it's off to Wyoming and Utah for two weeks including watching some
> hockey, flying into DIA and renting a car. Might take a side trip to
> do some photography off of East Colfax, haven't decided yet.
>
> Until then, I know it's hard but try to act human.....
>
>
> Pat


Watch out for those 'crackpots' out there. Drive careful.

Ben




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:44 EST 2002
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From: "Commissar" 
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"Waldo"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Then again she may be out of town . . .
>
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26453
>
>
> ______________________________
>
> "Ramada to host 'Vicious Valentine' event
> Family advocates call on hotel chain to cancel S&M conference"
>
>
> By Allyson Smith
>  2002 WorldNetDaily.com
>
> Concerned Women for America of Illinois is urging a Chicago-area Ramada
Inn
> to cancel a scheduled sadomasochism conference that will include live
> demonstrations of (consensual) sexual torture inflicted on nude subjects
and
> a "dungeon" supervised by off-duty police officers.
>
> [...]
>
> "These people enjoy inflicting pain on themselves and others," said
Valente.
> "They advocate the use of inserting objects and hurting themselves to
> produce blood and advise participants to use 'a tarp or drop cloth' and to
> 'clean up after your [sadistic] scene.' It is shocking that a supposedly
> family-friendly hotel like the Ramada would allow live nude demonstrations
> of sexual torture on its premises."
>
> 'Bloodplay,' 'flogging,' 'mummification'
>
> Among the demonstrations and seminars slated for VV5 are "Fisting" by
> Deborah Addington, author of a book on lesbian "fisting"; "Ritual
> Scarification," including "all forms of bloodplay - cutting,
scarification,
> play piercing"; "The Art of [Sensual Flogging]"; alternative
"Mummification"
> (body-wrapping) techniques; and another seminar with a lewd title and
> description that cannot be printed on a family newssite.
>
> [...]
>
>
> ___________________________________
>
> Waldo
>
> Observer at Large
>
>
She wouldn't be interested, they don't allow young children.


Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:45 EST 2002
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From: "Commissar" 
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"torresD"  wrote in message
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> flaviaR@ihavepms.com (Susan Cohen) wrote:
>  Subject: My Husband Gary is Gay :-(
>  I married Gary Rumain for his money.
> A big problem is that he is gay,
>  & can't get it up for me.
>
> Any suggestions on how to
> alleviate my sexual frustration?
>
>  Susan
>
> Susan,
> See a Therapist, work it out that way.
> Whether your husband is gay or not,
> is private, personal and not for a public forum.
>
> Anyway, there are marriages like that.
> Where the man is gay and needs a wife,
> for social, business purposes, it can work out,
> but it should be done at home.
>
> See a therapist, Susan.
>
>


I feel sorry for Susan, but posting to alt.revisionism is not a solution.

Commissar




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From: "Commissar" 
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"Waldo"  wrote in message
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>
> "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> news:3C6F482A.CCD82D43@hers.com...
> >
> >
> > torresD wrote:
> >
> > >  flaviaR@ihavepms.com (Susan Cohen) wrote:
> >
> > nothing, because there is no such person.
> >
> > >  Susan
> > >
> > > Susan,
> > > See a Therapist,
> >
> > You should be directing your advice to both yourself
> > (sex in 45 seconds - you poor thing!) and Brandon Orr,
> > the writer of the post.
> > You remember him - the one who insisted he was a woman,
> > right up to the point where he could no longer deny that he
> > was just a bigot who wore a dress on occasional weekends...?
> >
> > Susan
>
>
> You're just pissed because you and he both showed up at a cocktail party
> wearing the same dress, aren't you Susan?


They must shop at the same WAL-MART store.



> Surely you don't have anything against cock-sucking fags, do you Susan?


G*D forbid, that would make her a BIGOT.


>
> Waldo
>
Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:45 EST 2002
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From: "Commissar" 
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"Sara"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Commissar"
>  wrote:
>
> > "torresD"  wrote in message
> > news:zwHb8.5473$nS4.894570642@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> > > flaviaR@ihavepms.com (Susan Cohen) wrote:
> > >  Subject: My Husband Gary is Gay :-(
> > >  I married Gary Rumain for his money.
> > > A big problem is that he is gay,
> > >  & can't get it up for me.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on how to
> > > alleviate my sexual frustration?
> > >
> > >  Susan
> > >
> > > Susan,
> > > See a Therapist, work it out that way.
> > > Whether your husband is gay or not,
> > > is private, personal and not for a public forum.
> > >
> > > Anyway, there are marriages like that.
> > > Where the man is gay and needs a wife,
> > > for social, business purposes, it can work out,
> > > but it should be done at home.
> > >
> > > See a therapist, Susan.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > I feel sorry for Susan, but posting to alt.revisionism is not a
solution.
> >
> > Commissar
> >
> >
>
> You're a coward and a liar, Don Ellis, and you're probably responsible
> for the forgery to begin with.
>
> Sara
>


If Susan is your friend, you should be offering her aid...not posting lies
and innuendoes.


Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:46 EST 2002
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"Brandon V. Orr"  wrote in message
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> Susan Cohen  wrote in message
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> > "Brandon V. Orr" wrote:
> >
> > > As a Socialist, I find it intriguing how anti-revisionists--though
> > > ostensibly opposed to hatred and ignorance--tend to be chock full of
> > > the very dubious qualities they purport to disown.
> >
> > [hypocritical hate & lies snipped]
> >
> > Looks what's talking.
>
> Someone who is pleased at how easy it is to manipulate you.
>
> > I was wondering how long it would
> > take this loser to drag his sorry butt back to usenet -
>
> I see that your obsession about me has not weakened in the least. Then
> again, I expected nothing else.
>
> >and
> > you'll notice he *still* doesn't have a website back up....
>
> It's a major project. It's going to have a massive library, resources
> for activists, an application for membership and many photos of my
> organisation's meetings, get-togethers, members, supporters and
> associates. Besides, I've been up to other things as well -- like
> moving in with a girlfriend and having a fabulous time. Don't worry,
> Ms Cohen; the website will be up soon enough.
>
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> Brandon V. Orr
> Founding Member,
> Anti-Family Action
> [website under construction]
> "Declare war upon civilisation."
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


Brandon, why do you attack this poor woman?  I was reading earlier, she was
having serious problems with her husbands newfound sexuality.


Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:46 EST 2002
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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > I feel sorry for Susan,
>
> Heck, I feel sorry for all those people who can't tell a forgery from the
> real thing.
>
> > but posting to alt.revisionism is not a solution.
>
> It is when your only objective is to stir up trouble.
>
> Susan
>

Why do you want trouble here? Don't you have enough personal problems to
deal with? I like you Susan, but your starting to get on my nerves.

Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:47 EST 2002
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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > If Susan is your friend, you should be offering her aid...
>
> I have already taken care of the forgery - the only other "aid"
> I could possibly require is for people to stop falling for such
> ridiculous ticks.
>
> Susan
>

I've seen no proof the posting was a forgery, only your ranting. I believe
you made the honest mistake of posting it to the wrong newsgroup. These
things happen and people will understand.


Commissar




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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > I was reading earlier, she was
> > having serious problems with her husbands newfound sexuality.
>
> And you wonder why Sara automatically assume that you
> and Brandon Orr are the same loser.
> Next time you want to whine bout *anyone's* "lies and
> innuendoes", you might want to keep this in [what is
> laughingly referred to as your] mind.
>
> Susan
>

So now you're in denial? Does your husband know how you feel about him? Has
he read your post? Print the post out, leave it on the table where he can
find it. This will break the ice on the gay issue, maybe then you guys can
work something out.

Commissar




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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > news:3C700076.1DDD8A37@hers.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Commissar wrote:
> > >
> > > > If Susan is your friend, you should be offering her aid...
> > >
> > > I have already taken care of the forgery - the only other "aid"
> > > I could possibly require is for people to stop falling for such
> > > ridiculous ticks.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> >
> > I've seen no proof the posting was a forgery,
>
> Nor have you seen proof that it was posted by me.
> In fact, since the e-mail address was forged, you didn't
> even need to see the rest of the headers to know.
>


Your previous attempts to exploit a victim status in reason enough to assume
the postings were made by you.

> > only your ranting.
>
> "Ranting"? My, someone is awfully touchy about not being
> able to figure out transparent forgeries.
> Either that, or it's an also transparent attempt to continue
> to pretend that Brandon Orr isn't responsible for the whole
> thing.

Mr. Orr has no reason to forge your postings.

> > I believe
> > you made the honest mistake of posting it to the wrong newsgroup.
>
> Then you are as gullible as you are incapable of setting your
> newsreader properly.
>
> >  These things happen and people will understand.
>
> Yes, forgeries do happen and people very well understand.
> Except, it seems, for you.
>




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:48 EST 2002
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"Brandon V. Orr"  wrote in message
news:605b5e5c.0202171144.370a1536@posting.google.com...
> "david_michael"  wrote in message
news:<3c6fa8a6@212.67.96.135>...
> > Ms Cohen and Dr Goebbels have at least one thing in common: a
> > love of 'information management'.
> >
> > David
>
> INDEED.
>
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> Brandon V. Orr
> Founding Member,
> Anti-Family Action
> [website under construction]
> "Declare war upon civilisation."
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Mr. Orr,

 Please understand that my friend Susan is under great stress. Please answer
the question below with a simple 'yes' or 'no', so we may clear this matter
up.

Do you make a posting forging Susan's name?


Thanks,

Commissar




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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
news:3C7011A1.6155306E@hers.com...
>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > news:3C70099A.23205457@hers.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Commissar wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3C700076.1DDD8A37@hers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Commissar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If Susan is your friend, you should be offering her aid...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have already taken care of the forgery - the only other "aid"
> > > > > I could possibly require is for people to stop falling for such
> > > > > ridiculous ticks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've seen no proof the posting was a forgery,
> > >
> > > Nor have you seen proof that it was posted by me.
> > > In fact, since the e-mail address was forged, you didn't
> > > even need to see the rest of the headers to know.
> > >
> >
> > Your previous attempts to exploit a victim status in reason enough to
assume
> > the postings were made by you.
>
> So the facts mean nothing, just your own intepretation of them.
> No wonder you post from alt.revisionism.
>

Where are these 'facts'? Look Susan, I'm not your enemy...I want to help
you.

Commissar




From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:49 EST 2002
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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
news:3C701371.8D4145C3@hers.com...
>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > Mr. Orr,
> >
> >  Please understand that my friend Susan
>
> Hmmm. If I am your "friend", why have you so far accused
> me of lying, trying to cause trouble in your group, and of
> only pretending to be a victim?
>
> > is under great stress.
>
> Please understand that your definiton of "great stress" is
> exponentially exaggerated from my definiton of it.
> A few forgeries, and even the train of gullible responses to it
> is not great stress. A periodic annoyance to be expected
> with the presence of Brandon Orr, yes. Stress? No.
> Just for starters, stress is for reality-based occurences that
> cause actual problems. This automatically lets out Brandon
> Orr.
>
> > Please answer
> > the question below with a simple 'yes' or 'no', so we may clear this
matter
> > up.
> >
> > Do you make a posting forging Susan's name?
>
> So, if I'm your "friend", as you state above, why are you
> now going to take Brandon's simple word in this matter,
> but not mine? Especially in light of the fact that I'm the one
> with others coming forward to agree with me that he did,
> indeed, forge a post in my name.


As your friend I will offer my support, but I will not lie for you.



> Because in fact I can already tell you that he will say that
> having used a false e-mail address under my full name, he
> will insist that he did not "forge" a post.
>
> Susan
>

Susan, you must be fair on this issue. Let's wait for Mr. Orr to answer the
question.


Commissar




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"Sara"  wrote in message
news:catamont-AEFEE7.13133817022002@news.concentric.net...
> In article , "Commissar"
>  wrote:
>
> > "Brandon V. Orr"  wrote in message
> > news:605b5e5c.0202170848.65dae748@posting.google.com...
> > > Susan Cohen  wrote in message
> > news:<3C6F3254.27E2B7E2@hers.com>...
> > > > "Brandon V. Orr" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a Socialist, I find it intriguing how anti-revisionists--though
> > > > > ostensibly opposed to hatred and ignorance--tend to be chock full
> > > > > of
> > > > > the very dubious qualities they purport to disown.
> > > >
> > > > [hypocritical hate & lies snipped]
> > > >
> > > > Looks what's talking.
> > >
> > > Someone who is pleased at how easy it is to manipulate you.
> > >
> > > > I was wondering how long it would
> > > > take this loser to drag his sorry butt back to usenet -
> > >
> > > I see that your obsession about me has not weakened in the least. Then
> > > again, I expected nothing else.
> > >
> > > >and
> > > > you'll notice he *still* doesn't have a website back up....
> > >
> > > It's a major project. It's going to have a massive library, resources
> > > for activists, an application for membership and many photos of my
> > > organisation's meetings, get-togethers, members, supporters and
> > > associates. Besides, I've been up to other things as well -- like
> > > moving in with a girlfriend and having a fabulous time. Don't worry,
> > > Ms Cohen; the website will be up soon enough.
> > >
> > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> > > Brandon V. Orr
> > > Founding Member,
> > > Anti-Family Action
> > > [website under construction]
> > > "Declare war upon civilisation."
> > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> >
> >
> > Brandon, why do you attack this poor woman?  I was reading earlier, she
> > was
> > having serious problems with her husbands newfound sexuality.
> >
> >
> > Commissar
> >
> >
>
> Poor pathetic little Donnie Ellis now has no one to talk to except
> Brandon Orr and his sock puppets.
>
> It is to laugh.
>
> Sara
>


More lies and innuendoes from a self appointed victim, Sara Salzman.


Commissar




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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
news:3C70165B.FF4887D0@hers.com...
>
>
> Commissar wrote:
>
> > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > news:3C7011A1.6155306E@hers.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Commissar wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3C70099A.23205457@hers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Commissar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:3C700076.1DDD8A37@hers.com...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Commissar wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If Susan is your friend, you should be offering her aid...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have already taken care of the forgery - the only other
"aid"
> > > > > > > I could possibly require is for people to stop falling for
such
> > > > > > > ridiculous ticks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Susan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've seen no proof the posting was a forgery,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nor have you seen proof that it was posted by me.
> > > > > In fact, since the e-mail address was forged, you didn't
> > > > > even need to see the rest of the headers to know.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your previous attempts to exploit a victim status in reason enough
to
> > assume
> > > > the postings were made by you.
> > >
> > > So the facts mean nothing, just your own intepretation of them.
> > > No wonder you post from alt.revisionism.
> > >
> >
> > Where are these 'facts'?
>
> There are no "facts", only facts. And they are clearly
> shown in the headers you are deliberately ignoring.


Which means nothing. You could have several different dial-ups.


> > Look Susan, I'm not your enemy...I want to help
> > you.
>
> I am not nearly as gullible as the rest of your cohorts, Mr. Ellis.


You'll need to address issues with Mr. Ellis in a separate post. I cannot
answer for him.

> Your previous posts which you quoted above clearly show
> exactly the opposite of this obviously fatuous declaration.
> Of course, if you still want to pretend it's true, you can always
> prove it by giving me the only help I could ever want from you:
> stop pretending that  you are not my enemy and that you want
> to help me.
>
> Susan
>


Commissar




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  "Tom Shelly, White God"  wrote in message =
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   =20
  Seriously Tom, what exactly would you like them to do?=20
  I would like the White Race to simply stop giving charity and help to =
the nigger species.  This alone will ultimately result in their =
extinction, as Mother Nature is obviously trying to accomplish.=20

  The nigger species is unable to support or maintain itself.=20

  Tom Shelly, White God=20



  Why is there a leash on that negro baby?



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"Tom Shelly, White God" <apes@niggers.com> wrote in = message news:3C701970.6674418@niggers.= com...
 =20
Seriously Tom, what exactly would you like them to do?=20

I would like the White Race to simply stop giving charity and help = to the=20 nigger species.  This alone will ultimately result in their = extinction,=20 as Mother Nature is obviously trying to accomplish.=20

The nigger species is unable to support or maintain itself.=20

Tom Shelly, White God=20

 

Why is there a leash on that negro = baby?

 

Commissar


------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1B7C6.F2C9BEC0-- From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:50 EST 2002 Article: 1356512 of alt.revisionism Path: hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!feed.centurytel.net!not-for-mail From: "Commissar" Newsgroups: alt.revisionism References: <605b5e5c.0202161306.7e5014f1@posting.google.com> <3C6F3254.27E2B7E2@hers.com> <605b5e5c.0202170848.65dae748@posting.google.com> <3C70191F.CA775287@hers.com> Subject: Re: Who are the Anti-Revisionists? Lines: 40 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:26:44 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.170.104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@centurytel.net X-Trace: feed.centurytel.net 1013980196 209.142.170.104 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:09:56 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:09:56 CST Organization: CenturyTel.Net Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1356512 "Susan Cohen" wrote in message news:3C70191F.CA775287@hers.com... > > > Commissar wrote: > > > "Sara" wrote in message > > news:catamont-AEFEE7.13133817022002@news.concentric.net... > > > > > > > > > Poor pathetic little Donnie Ellis now has no one to talk to except > > > Brandon Orr and his sock puppets. > > > > > > It is to laugh. > > > > > > Sara > > > > > > > More lies and innuendoes from a self appointed victim, Sara Salzman. > > Your repitition damns you far more than anything > we could come up with. I'm still pondering the word 'repitition'. Does it have a special meaning for you? >Thank you for exposing yourself so throughly. We may be friends, but you've never seen me naked. Commissar > From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:51 EST 2002 Article: 1356561 of alt.revisionism Path: hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!feed.centurytel.net!not-for-mail From: "Commissar" Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,sci.skeptic References: <3C6F3687.90DA366F@hers.com> <3c6fa8a6@212.67.96.135> <3c701019@212.67.96.135> <3C70148E.2BFF2792@hers.com> <3c702e20@212.67.96.135> Subject: Re: Brandon Orr Strikes (Out) Again Lines: 80 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <1kWb8.1928$_m2.527757@feed.centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:56:54 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.170.104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@centurytel.net X-Trace: feed.centurytel.net 1013985661 209.142.170.104 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:41:01 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:41:01 CST Organization: CenturyTel.Net Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1356561 soc.culture.jewish:632551 sci.skeptic:542199 "david_michael" wrote in message news:3c702e20@212.67.96.135... > > "Susan Cohen" wrote in message > news:3C70148E.2BFF2792@hers.com... > > > > > > david_michael wrote: > > > > > "Snoyberg" wrote in message > > > news:slrna7027g.cf.snoyberg.nospam@localhost.localdomain... > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > In article <3c6fa8a6@212.67.96.135>, david_michael wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Susan Cohen" wrote in message > > > > > news:3C6F3687.90DA366F@hers.com... > > > > >> Luckily, I have his ISP, and he won;t bebothering us again. > > > > > > > > > > Now that is a very revealing post. The Internet is supposed to be a > > > forum > > > > > where people can engage in free speech. Ms Cohen now wishes to > censor it > > > by > > > > > getting people's ISP accounts pulled if they happen to say things > with > > > which > > > > > she disagrees. Ms Cohen and Dr Goebbels have at least one thing in > > > common: a > > > > > love of 'information management'. > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > The stupidity of some people... He forged her account, that is > > > > considered slander. > > > > > > Er . . . well, if you're going to be a bar room lawyer maybe you should > do > > > the lawyering *before* partaking . . . > > > > Considering the garbage you spewed above about a perfectly > > legitimate response to a forgery, I would say "Physician, Heal Thyself." > > What he said about *slander* may not be true, but the crux of the > > matter is what you're trying to dodge: the fact that I was responding > > to a post which was deliberately dressed up to look like it came from > > me. > > > > > > That's like saying I have a right to get up on a > > > > stage and say that I saw Bush having sex with Arafat and two horses. > > > > I would be sued. > > > > > > I think it most unlikely. > > > > Depends on which stage. > > But it does follow the "logic" you present in trying to pretend > > that stopping forgeries is the same as censoring free speech. > > > > Susan > > Well I don't know if he did what you claim but you're not going to solve the > problem by pulling his ISP account. It might have worked a few years ago but > now there are zillions of ISPs out there, falling over to compete against > each other. Why don't you two just make up and be friends? > > David > > Mr. Orr has done everything possible to make friends with Susan. Susan can't seem to get pass her hate and denial. Commissar From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:51 EST 2002 Article: 1356597 of alt.revisionism Path: hub.org!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!falcon.america.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!feed.centurytel.net!not-for-mail From: "Commissar" Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,israel.lists.il-talk,sci.skeptic,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel References: <3C6F482A.CCD82D43@hers.com> <3c6f563e$0$191@news.impulse.net> <605b5e5c.0202170738.54513c6e@posting.google.com> <3C700125.CD5F808F@hers.com> <605b5e5c.0202171410.5a7de3fe@posting.google.com> <3C703CAA.AB7C5243@hers.com> Subject: Re: torresD as gullible as stupid! Lines: 95 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:59:14 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.170.104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@centurytel.net X-Trace: feed.centurytel.net 1013989358 209.142.170.104 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:42:38 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:42:38 CST Organization: CenturyTel.Net Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1356597 israel.lists.il-talk:11460 sci.skeptic:542212 soc.culture.jewish:632586 soc.culture.israel:467599 "Susan Cohen" wrote in message news:3C703CAA.AB7C5243@hers.com... > > > "Brandon V. Orr" wrote: > > > Susan Cohen wrote in message news:<3C700125.CD5F808F@hers.com>... > > > > > > > > > Surely you don't have anything against cock-sucking fags, do you Susan? > > > > > > So far, only you & Brandon orr are the only gay guys who make me ill. > > > > Since I'm sexually attracted to women, > > Instead of being one? Oh, that's right - thtat was your *last* dodge. > > Tell me, what do all the "Lesbian Avengers" now say about > your pervious charade? What do they say about this one? > > > I'm "gay" only in the sense of being happy. > > You couldn;t possibly be happy,spending your time on Usenet > making up lies about people who figure out what a liar you are. > > > It also appears you are unaware that bisexuality even exists. > > No, you would only like it to appear this way. > Are you now claiming that you are bisexual?? > Not that it matters. You have lied about whatever sexuality > you are using as a dodge so often that you have no right to > expect anyone to believe whatever you say you are at any given time. > > > > To you, > > someone must be either "gay" or "straight;" there is no in between. > > You mean you wish it were like this. > You have no reason to suspect hat I am as ignorant > about bisexualit as you are about fooling people. > > > That kind of ignorance is not uncommon among devout Jewish puritans > > such as yourself. > > Strawman, as I am certainly not any such nonexistent > creature as a "Jewish puritan" [sic}. > > > After all, your religion prescribes the death > > penalty for homosexual activity. > > No, it does not. It prescribes the death penalty for certain sexual > acts, nomatter who performs them. > Once again, you show your vicious ignorance. > > > Indeed, Christianity inherits its > > sex-negative attitudes from Judaism, > > Wrong *again*. You've never ead a ketuba, have you? > Or Rabbi Akiva's advice to his daughters? > > > out of which it sprang into > > existence. Small wonder then that Christians so overwhelmingly support > > the Zionist state, > > Only a sexually-fixated loser such as yourself would presume that > right-wing Xians support Israel solely for sexual reasons. > > > where rabbis like David Batzri openly call for the > > mass murder of homosexuals. > > Trust you to get hold of the lying twistto that spin. > > > When did you learn that your husband Gary is gay, Ms Cohen? > > Why are you still even trying to pretend that your forgery > containing this lie came from me? Because two white racist > Jew-haters are pretending it along with you?? ROTFLOL! > > > How does it feel to be married to someone who, in the eyes of Judaism, > > is a deviant and criminal? > > Since I am not married to you, I would have no idea. > > Susan > Why are you starting a fight? Just tell Mr. Orr you're sorry, he will forgive you. Commissar From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:51 EST 2002 Article: 1356603 of alt.revisionism Path: hub.org!hub.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!feed.centurytel.net!not-for-mail From: "Commissar" Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,sci.skeptic References: <3C6F3687.90DA366F@hers.com> <3c6fa8a6@212.67.96.135> <3c701019@212.67.96.135> <3C70148E.2BFF2792@hers.com> <3c702e20@212.67.96.135> <1kWb8.1928$_m2.527757@feed.centurytel.net> <3C703DAA.9D6306F9@hers.com> Subject: Re: Brandon Orr Strikes (Out) Again Lines: 59 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:07:52 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.170.104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@centurytel.net X-Trace: feed.centurytel.net 1013989872 209.142.170.104 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:51:12 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:51:12 CST Organization: CenturyTel.Net Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1356603 soc.culture.jewish:632589 sci.skeptic:542219 "Susan Cohen" wrote in message news:3C703DAA.9D6306F9@hers.com... > > > Commissar wrote: > > > "david_michael" wrote in message > > news:3c702e20@212.67.96.135... > > > > > > Well I don't know if he did what you claim > > Theh eaders prove it. Just look at them. > Snoyberg posted them. > I believe Sara Salzman did. > I prefer people simply trace the path to find the original. > > > but you're not going to solve > > the > > > problem by pulling his ISP account.It might have worked a few years ago > > but > > > now there are zillions of ISPs out there, falling over to compete against > > > each other. Why don't you two just make up and be friends? > > > > > > David > > If Brandon Orr would like to make amends, fine, let him. > > > Mr. Orr has done everything possible to make friends with Susan. > > What has he done other thn post a forgery & then tell lies about it? > Do show us all the proof of his have done "everything possible to > make friends with Susan" (And I note who you call by an honorific, > and with whom you are less resepctful in your address - you can't > even remember from one post to another your own lies about *us* > being friends). > > > Susan can't seem to get pass her hate and denial. > > Get pass?? > You mean I can't get *past* Brandon's hate and your denial. > Which I can - I simply choose to rub your filthy noses in it. > > Susan > "You mean I can't get *past* Brandon's hate and your denial." I agree. As a friend, your actions are not acceptable for USENET postings. Patching things up between you and Mr. Orr is hard enough without your name calling and lies. Commissar From commissar@centurytel.net Sun Feb 17 20:53:52 EST 2002 Article: 1356606 of alt.revisionism Path: hub.org!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!feed.centurytel.net!not-for-mail From: "Commissar" Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,sci.skeptic References: <3C6F482A.CCD82D43@hers.com> <3c6f563e$0$191@news.impulse.net> <605b5e5c.0202170738.54513c6e@posting.google.com> <3C700125.CD5F808F@hers.com> <605b5e5c.0202171410.5a7de3fe@posting.google.com> <3C703CAA.AB7C5243@hers.com> <3C704191.DBA9DF13@hers.com> Subject: Re: torresD as gullible as stupid! Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:12:31 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.170.104 X-Complaints-To: abuse@centurytel.net X-Trace: feed.centurytel.net 1013990198 209.142.170.104 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:56:38 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:56:38 CST Organization: CenturyTel.Net Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1356606 sci.skeptic:542221 "Susan Cohen" wrote in message news:3C704191.DBA9DF13@hers.com... > > > Commissar wrote: > > > Why are you starting a fight? > > Why are you pretending that this is the case? You're picking a fight with Mr. Orr > > Just tell Mr. Orr you're sorry, > > Why should I say I'm sorry for his lies about me? What did he lie about? > > he will > > forgive you. > > For what? For not liking his lies about me? > Please try not to be any more absurd than you already are. > > Susan > Susan, you're starting to embarrass your friends. Commissar

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