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From: Sara 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Anonymous Coward NF88 lies some more
Date: 14 Jan 2002 23:37:10 GMT
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In article <%QJ08.13959$Xs4.3544427@feed.centurytel.net>, "Mike McGee" 
 wrote:

> "Sara"  wrote in message
> news:catamont-A04772.14302414012002@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <11915-3C432F3C-326@storefull-626.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> > ragland36@webtv.net (Michael Ragland) wrote:
> >
> > > You are a true simpleton.
> >
> > He may be, but he is also Don "stop e-mailing me" Ellis. He always says
> > that when he's on the losing end of anything.
> >
> > You can always tell Donnie by the cte60399@centurytel.net account.
> >
> > Centurytel.net is the main competition for Donnie's family ISP,
> > seark.net. So Donnie's using centurytel to try and obtain for them the
> > same bad rep he has already given seark.net.
> >
> > Sara
> 
> 
> Proof? Didn't think so.
> 
> 

Funny you should ask!! Especially since you just sent me this:


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Subject: Re: Ken McVay: Hang your head in shame..
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:31:02 -0600
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-- 
"Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", 
we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git." 
       Alexai Sayle. 

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From: Sara 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel
Subject: Donnie Ellis screws up ... again
Date: 14 Jan 2002 23:30:40 GMT
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In article , "Mike McGee" 
 wrote:

> "Sara"  wrote in message
> news:catamont-682C9B.10415314012002@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <20020114164013.9809.qmail@nym.alias.net>, lcs Mixmaster
> > Remailer  wrote:
> >
> > > "Sara"  wrote in message news:catamont-
> > > 400A72.08325614012002@news.concentric.net...
> > > > In article <7bd65070cb7a94b1a5102b1911cc8b97@remailer.privacy.at>,
> > > > Anonymous  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > --Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
> > > > > "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
> > > > > proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
> > > > > yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
> > > > > seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
> > > > > my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
> > > > > moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
> > > > >         http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
> > > > >        Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
> > > > >       cf214uoohhmoqblmvgg43auk48ts95up3n@4ax.com
> > >
> > WHAT YOU SNIPPED:
> >
> > "Perhaps one thing that I should note, because authors often
> > sensationalize the hatemongering on the Net, is that, for all their
> > vitriol, these people are only a tiny handful of the 30-40 million
> > users on the Internet. I am weary of seeing their activities blown out
> > of proportion, as I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown
> > out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
> > have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen
> > photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family
> > photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to
> > our society)."
> >
> >
> >
> > > > McVay does NOT condone child porn; he states he is "weary" of 
> > > > seeing
> > > > "...the issue of 'child porn' blown out of porportion" likened to 
> > > > the
> > > > neo-Nazis, anti-semites, white supremacists  efforts
> > > > "sensationalize[d]" on the net.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Looks like it's time to get the good Doc Tavish in here, so that he 
> > > can
> > > expose your sick fisting
> > > S&M fetish...
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, please do ask Doc Tavish about his sick S&M fetish. The posts you
> > are "objecting" to are about consensual, loving relationships between
> > two consenting individuals.
> >
> > Doc's, on the other hand, are about non-consensual physical torture of
> > his "enemies."
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > P.S.
> > >
> > > Sara, how many times have you been investigated for child abuse?
> > >
> > My _family_ was investigated once when some sick fuck like you thought
> > it would be cute to file an anonymous complaint (which by law must be
> > investigated). We were given a completely clean bill of health amd all
> > charges were dismissed. _I_ have never been investigated.
> >
> > So, now tell us: Why are you an anonymous sick fuck?
> >
> > Sara
> >
> 
> --
> In the face of mounting scientific evidence, there is persistent denial 
> by
> American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are
> thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by
> parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their
> babies. It provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
> erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as autism.
> 
> 

You fucked up, Don. You hit "respond via e-mail" as well. And here's 
what I received:

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From: "Don Ellis" 
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Subject: Re: Ken McVay: Hang your head in shame..
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sara" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Ken McVay: Hang your head in shame..


'I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or
any great moral danger to our society).' -  Ken McVay OBC

-- 
"Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", 
we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git." 
       Alexai Sayle. 


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