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Article 5197 of alt.politics.white-power:
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From: bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Sub-genius loses his cool!
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I was hoping you would have a bit more cool than that Sub.  You completely
lost it.  The only answers you have to my reasoned arguments are "you beat
people with lead pipes", "you want to grind them under your heal(sic)", etc...
What's the matter, you couldn't accept that my arguments were valid and
your one-world philosophy was just a hopeless pipe dream?  Grow up.

Sylvie Charbonneau


--
"I used to trust the media to tell me the truth/ Tell us the truth!
But now I've seen the payoffs everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?"
	 	Queensryche,   "Revolution Calling"


Article 5206 of alt.politics.white-power:
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From: bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Excrementum vincit cerebellum
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Jeanne Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
>> The Sub-genius (laramary@eden.rutgers.edu) writes:
>> > bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) writes:

(snip) 
>> >       No, that is NOT hypocrisy.  If I were to believe that all WP
>> > types should be shunned and then didn't shun one of them, it would be
>> > hypocrisy.  I shun no one.  Besides, refusing to learn about others 
>> > is the strongest distaste I have for the WP types.  You know what it
>> > is to learn, right?  Oops, silly me.  Why ask...
>> 
>> Yes, but once you have learned a lesson, is it necessary to constantly
>> learn it again?  I have learned that I have nothing in common with blacks
>> when I was working with them, seeing how they lived, how they interacted
>> within themselves and with whites, etc... I have learned that I do not
>> like them very much, and that I want to avoid them.  You, on the other
>> hand, have learned nothing.
> 
> So, you've seen some things that you didn't like in a few black people,
> eh? You may have good reason to dislike those particular people, but
> there's really no cause to generalize those feelings to a whole cultural
> group. Thinking that every person of a particular religion or cultural
> group has the same characteristic as those few people that you knew is
> just silly.

How much close contact have you had with blacks?  I'd say close to none,
seeing the way you apologize for them.

I don't like blacks for very sensible reasons.  When I was working at the
Y as a supervisor, I saw what they were really like.  I went in there a
complete equalitarian, and came out seven months later a compete racist. 
I have never seen Whites urinating in the elevator.  I have never seen
Whites smoking crack when they were pregnant.  There was almost never any
vandalism or damage to the rooms of Whites.  Yet this was all common
behaviour by the blacks.  The non-White workers were almost all lazy and
shiftless (except for one Phillipino (sp?) ).  Experience is a good teacher.

> 
>> >       BTW, how do you know you have nothing in common with a Black
>> > person, or anyone else you do not know?  Is there some sort of mind
>> > meld you do first?  I don't get it...-- 
>> 
>> If one constantly learns the same lesson about a certain group, and it is
>> reinforced daily, pretty soon you don't need to question, you just accept
>> it as fact and move on.
> 
> When you expect to see a certain characteristic in someone, you will come
> to believe it is there whether it exists or not. It becomes a
> self-fullfilling prophecy, which grows into a full-fledged stereotype.


Tell me, have you ever seen those T-shirts that read "It's a Black thing,
you wouldn't understand?"  If the blacks themselves think that we couldn't
understand them, why the hell should we even try?

Hey, aren't they being RACIST by wanting to stick to themselves?  

Sylvie Charbonneau


--
"I used to trust the media to tell me the truth/ Tell us the truth!
But now I've seen the payoffs everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?"
	 	Queensryche,   "Revolution Calling"


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