The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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From steven@csnsys.com Thu Sep 12 21:35:18 PDT 1996
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: The Shoah Visual History Foundation
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 00:30:22 GMT
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Kate magniloquently orated thusly,

>a) please explain just what a "holohugger" is.  I'm not familiar with that
>term, and b) please explain the second part of your sentance.  I'm finding
>it difficult to decifer the sentance due to your misuse of puncuation and
                   ^^^^^^^
Come -on, Kate. If yer gonna bitch at someone, at least pull your own head out 
of your ass so they can hear what you're saying!

>apparent misspelling of words.  Do you mean, "Let's tell it too, Sara...
>she'll believe anything," or "Let's tell it to Sara, she'll believe
>anything?" Thought you had a PhD, giwer.

And before you call me an Anti-semite for criticising your spelling, I'll just 
post my standard response.....

If an Anti-Semite is one who rejects the idea that one race of humans 
dominates all others in the same way that a human dominates cattle, than I am 
an Anti Semite.

If an Anti-Semite is one who believes that the economic enslavement of the 
entire world is inherently immoral, then I am an Anti-Semite.

If an Anti-Semite is one who rejects the idea that it is not sinful to murder 
a human being as long as he is not a Jew, then I am an Anti-Semite.

If an Anti-Semite is one who believes there is *NOTHING* in the Talmud that is 

morally uplifting, racially tolerant, or socially beneficial to *ALL* of 
Humanity, then I am an Anti-Semite.

If an Anti-Semite is one who believes Talmudic Judaism has declared secret war 
with the rest of the human race with the Press, Universities, Political 
Parties, Freemasons etc. as their unwitting dupes, then I am an Anti-Semite.

If it is Anti-Semite to see the direction (guided by Talmudic hands) the world 
is taking and to band together under our Constitution, even if we have to kill 
or be killed, to protect the minds and bodies of our children in an attempt to 
guarrantee them the same (or more) freedom that we enjoyed here in the USA, 
then I am an Anti-Semite.

If a Semite is a Talmudic Jew, and a Talmudic Jew is Anti-Goyim, and I am 
considered a Goyim, then I am an Anti-Semite.

If a Semite is a "Talmudic" Jew, then any Jew wishing to escape Anti-Semitism 
need only distance himself from Talmudism, and have nothing to fear from us 
Anti-Semites.

If Semite refers to more than just Talmudic Jews, then I am simply 
"Anti-Tamudic Jew".

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From steven@csnsys.com Mon Sep 16 18:58:36 PDT 1996
Article: 88697 of alt.conspiracy
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE - what is it?
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:54:50 GMT
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In article <3239771b.3472633@news.cris.com>, Umarth@cris.com (Umarth Moria Mogurth) wrote:
>Dihydrogen Monozide. HMMM. Let's see Di... 2 right? Yea, right, and
>Monoxide. Mon, mon, mono, 1 right?
>2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen... Why, why my GOD that, that's H2O. Water!!! 
>
>Think you idiots, think. God (evoloution if you prefer) gave you a
>brain so think for god's sake.

 Awwwwwwwwww, shucks! You had to go and ruin the joke. I hereby nominate you 
Wet-Blanket of the month. Do you really think everyone participating in this 
thread was serious? You must be one of those people who thinks that people are 
so stupid that they cannot be trusted with themselves and therefore *need*  to 
be dominated like the bunch of cattle that they are. Or maybe you just have a 
terrible sense of humor.

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**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
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**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
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From steven@csnsys.com Tue Sep 17 03:59:05 PDT 1996
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Shoah Visual History Foundation
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Just trying to see who's paying attention.

But when you think about it, that million$ given (borrowed from us) to 
$peilberg for his little project will be payed by our kids' kids kids' etc. 
I'm sure one day they're gonna be wondering how in the *HELL*  we got them in 
so much trouble, and they're gonna see a receipt for $1 million to help a rich 
man perpetuate lies ( among other things ) with *their* names signed on the 
bottom.  I dont know 'bout you, but I dont wanna be remembered as the 
generation that spent their decendants into slavery.

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**  Steve Casas        Carpenter          Gun Owner       **
**                     Singer             Songwriter      **
**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
**                         steven@csnsys.com              **
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From steven@csnsys.com Tue Sep 17 04:00:14 PDT 1996
Article: 101307 of alt.censorship
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Shoah Visual History Foundation
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Just trying to see who's paying attention.

But when you think about it, that million$ given (borrowed from us) to 
$peilberg for his little project will be payed by our kids' kids kids' etc. 
I'm sure one day they're gonna be wondering how in the *HELL*  we got them in 
so much trouble, and they're gonna see a receipt for $1 million to help a rich 
man perpetuate lies ( among other things ) with *their* names signed on the 
bottom.  I dont know 'bout you, but I dont wanna be remembered as the 
generation that spent their decendants into slavery.

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**  Steve Casas        Carpenter          Gun Owner       **
**                     Singer             Songwriter      **
**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
**                         steven@csnsys.com              **
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From steven@csnsys.com Tue Sep 17 08:56:13 PDT 1996
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: National Debt: Paying for Shoah Visual History Foundation
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Just trying to see who's paying attention.

But when you think about it, that million$ given (borrowed from us) to 
$peilberg for his little project will be payed by our kids' kids kids' etc. 
I'm sure one day they're gonna be wondering how in the *HELL*  we got them in
so much trouble, and they're gonna see a receipt for $1 million to help a rich
man perpetuate lies ( among other things ) with *their* names signed on the 
bottom.  I dont know 'bout you, but I dont wanna be remembered as the 
generation that spent their decendants into slavery.

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**  Steve Casas        Carpenter          Gun Owner       **
**                     Singer             Songwriter      **
**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
**                         steven@csnsys.com              **
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From steven@csnsys.com Thu Sep 19 20:31:28 PDT 1996
Article: 89604 of alt.conspiracy
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: Australian Conspiracy???
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In article <323D49D5.BA1@odyssey.com.au>, John  wrote:

( Eye-opening, jaw-dropping, pant-shitting report snipped to save bandwidth )

Buddy, the same damn thing is happening here, except at least we dont have 
those bloodthirsty Indonesians next door. God help you if you dont somehow get 
some people in office who will turn things around. If not, you will not only 
have to go to war (against all odds) with Indonesia, but with your own 
government, too. I say, lets string those "Pollies" up by the balls and let 
them hang there for all to see like they did to Musselini. I'd sure like to 
get a copy of your Constitution (not that a constitution *means* anything 
anymore, no matter how well written).
Any man ( or woman) with the courage to stand up and give their life for the 
future well-being of our kids, damn the torpedoes, I call my Brother.
 

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**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
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From steven@csnsys.com Fri Sep 20 09:44:28 PDT 1996
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Shoah Visual History Foundation
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In article <51mue9$dh4@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:
>Steven Casas (steven@csnsys.com) wrote:
>: Just trying to see who's paying attention.
>: 
>: But when you think about it, that million$ given (borrowed from us) to 
>: $peilberg for his little project will be payed by our kids' kids kids' etc. 
>: I'm sure one day they're gonna be wondering how in the *HELL*  we got them in
>: so much trouble, and they're gonna see a receipt for $1 million to help a
> rich
>: man perpetuate lies ( among other things ) with *their* names signed on the 
>: bottom.  I dont know 'bout you, but I dont wanna be remembered as the 
>: generation that spent their decendants into slavery.
>
>Your financial points are certainly worth considering--but what lies do
>you suspect Speilberg of trying to promulgate?
>
>Bill

I didn't mean to insinuate that the holocaust was a fake. I dont know enough 
about the particulars. However, the frenzy surrounding the whole matter has 
produced a number of inaccuracies, to say the least. One need only look at the 
evidence to come to the conclusion that the Holocaust did not occur in the 
fashion the "holohuggers" say it did. And any attempt to question the 
inaccuracies is met with accusations of anti-semitism. 

So maybe "lies" was a bit drastic. But not much.

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**                     Singer             Songwriter      **
**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
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From steven@csnsys.com Fri Sep 20 10:56:36 PDT 1996
Article: 89669 of alt.conspiracy
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: Paradigms? What Paradigms! (fwd)
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( bunch of permissive, grey-area, relativistic clap-trap snipped)

The fallacy involved in your denial of Objective Truth can be easily pointed 
out. However I'm not the guy to do it. If you want to become aquainted with 
the best argument on the other side of the fence you currently grace with your 
presence, I suggest "Ten Philosophical Mistakes" by Mortimer Adler. He is one 
of the top ( if not *the*) editors of the Encyclopedia Britannica, and has 
been since at least 1971 (thats the version I have) . I challenge you, or 
anyone else, to come up with any argument ( besides " No, your just 
insensitive! You just wanna control people and tell them how to live! Your too 
radical!" as you're plugging your ears and humming "Imagine" by Lennon) that 
holds water.

Once you know *how* to think, then you will know *what* to think.
   

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**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
**                         steven@csnsys.com              **
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From steven@csnsys.com Fri Sep 20 11:58:25 PDT 1996
Article: 89820 of alt.conspiracy
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Shoah Visual History Foundation
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In article , rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:
>In article <51l7gu$jv6@colossus.holonet.net>, steven@csnsys.com (Steven
>Casas) wrote:
>
>> Just trying to see who's paying attention.
>
>Apparently accuracy is not your concern - if it was, you would have added
>the words liar among your extensive list 
>

Ahh. The old "liar, liar, pants-on-fire" defense, huh? 

>> But when you think about it, that million$ given (borrowed from us) to 
>> $peilberg for his little project will be payed by our kids' kids kids' etc. 
>> I'm sure one day they're gonna be wondering how in the *HELL*  we got them in
>> so much trouble, and they're gonna see a receipt for $1 million to help a
>>  rich
>> man perpetuate lies ( among other things ) with *their* names signed on the 
>> bottom.  I dont know 'bout you, but I dont wanna be remembered as the 
>> generation that spent their decendants into slavery.

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**  Steve Casas        Carpenter          Gun Owner       **
**                     Singer             Songwriter      **
**  No man gave us     Guitar Player      Catholic        **
**  our FREEDOM and    Deadhead           Conservative    **
**  *dammit*, no man   Ex-Serviceman      Avid Reader     **
**  is gonna take      Electronics Technician             **
**  it away!!!!!!!                                        **
**                         steven@csnsys.com              **
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From steven@csnsys.com Sat Sep 21 00:03:26 PDT 1996
Article: 67219 of alt.revisionism
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: What is a "goyim"
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>libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:
>
>>tom moran (tm@pacificnet.net) wrote:
>>
>>:      Concisely, the word "goy" or "goyim" is a racial reference. More
>>: concisely yet, a racial slur. 
>>
>>Whoops.  Wrong again.  Since a goy is a person who isn't Jewish,
>>and "Jewish" is not a race, "goy" can't possibly be a racial 
>>reference.
>>

In your line of reasoning, it follows that a person who hates Jews cannot be a 
racist. But I say, since the Jews feel themselves superior to us Goyim in the 
same manner a human is superior to a dog, it is the Jews who are say they are 
of a different race and who are the racists.




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From steven@csnsys.com Sat Sep 21 11:00:16 PDT 1996
Article: 90056 of alt.conspiracy
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From: steven@csnsys.com (Steven Casas)
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Subject: Re: The Dickheads are Getting Desperate
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 96 04:55:00 GMT
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>>they didn't make any threatening movements, because they do happen to be  
>>murderous bastards, and I might need to protect myself in legal and
>justifiable  
>>self-defense by blowing someone's head off. 
>> 
>>September 17, 1996 
>>Web Page:  http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ 
> 
>So now you are now advocating murder!  Will you help pay the legal defense
>of some poor misguided soul that follows your terroristic advice?  If you
>are so convinced that law enforcement, the Government (or anybody that
>disagrees with you) in this Country is corrupt, why don't you leave?
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is *OUR* country, not the spooks that run it. And if you are on their 
side when the time comes to run them out like the dogs that they are, well, 
we'll just have to run you out, too.

I dont remember anything about "...for the bureaucrats, of the bureaucrats, by 
the bureaucrats."
 

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