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; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 12:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail184.108.40.206 #8) id m0uwsvg-0004YmC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 09:29 PDT Received: from vixa.voyager.net by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 31 AUG 96 09:29:45 PDT Received: from clmx62.dial.voyager.net (clmx62.dial.voyager.net [220.127.116.11]) by vixa.voyager.net (8.7.3/CICNet) with SMTP id MAA29091; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 12:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608311622.MAA29091@vixa.voyager.net> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 12:23:35 -0400 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jamie McCarthy) To: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org Cc: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Ausrotten again Newsgroups: alt.revisionism References: <4vpt6e$taj@Vir.com> <502sor$8lf@Vir.com> <505mrj$uii@Vir.com> Organization: Absence Software X-UIDL: 4394468e1e73b9ce14cb0e19b69fc59e (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: alt.revisionism) email@example.com (Daniel Keren) wrote: > AFAIK, the recording covers only the first paragraph. I'm jumping into the middle of this conversation, so I didn't see the context. If someone had asked how much of the Oct. 4th speech was on tape, the answer is "all of it," all three hours and ten minutes. > The one with the "most of you know what it is to see 100 corpses > lying side by side, or 500, or a 1,000". > > Some "evacuation". And don't forget the quote from the next paragraph: We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who would kill us. In case anyone revisionists want to object to the translation -- and I'm sure they'd love to find a reason -- I'll make it easy on them. The noun is "dieses Volk" (the same as "unserem Volk" which refers to the German people). The verb is "umbringen." "To kill this people" is the best translation, in my opinion, but other acceptable alternatives would be "to kill this race," or the nontranslation "to kill this Volk." And: Because we don't want, at the end of all this, to get sick and die from the same bacillus that we have exterminated. The verb there is "ausrotten." Perhaps our "revisionists" on this forum would like to explain how Himmler was using a colorful idiom about transporting bacteria out of the Reich on microscopic trains. And don't forget -- according to Greg Raven, this speech doesn't count as evidence for the Holocaust, because Himmler doesn't say anything about gas chambers! > BTW, the paragraph where Himmler speaks on the Slavs as "human > animals", and states that he doesn't care if 10,000 Russian > women die while digging an anti-tank ditch for Germany, is > also in the recording, and as a .wav file on Nizkor's site. The official IMT translation: We Germans, who are the only people in the world who have a decent attitude towards animals, will also assume a decent attitude towards these human animals. But it is a crime against our own blood to worry about them and give them ideals, thus causing our sons and grandsons to have a more difficult time with them. When someone comes to me and says, "I cannot dig the anti-tank ditch with women and children, it is inhuman, for it will kill them", then I would have to say, "you are a murderer of your own blood because if the anti-tank ditch is not dug, German soldiers will die, and they are the sons of German mothers. They are our own blood". Transcriptions, translations, and audio recordings (in a variety of formats) are available at: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/himmler-heinrich/posen/oct-04-43/ Nizkor is pleased to announce that we now have a RealAudio server, so all of the audio recordings can be played in real time, with no downloading necessary, for free, if you have a computer that supports the RealAudio client (Mac and Windows both do). Posted; emailed to Greg Raven, and to Arthur Butz, who has advanced some of the most interesting "revisionist" theories regarding this speech. -- Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/ firstname.lastname@example.org Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/ Hate mail will be posted.
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