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Message-ID: <3C47C511.A814FC9A@hers.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:47:45 -0500
From: Susan Cohen 
Reply-To: flavia@his.com
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,alt.sadistic
Subject: Re: SCOTTY TOTALLY EXPOSES HIMSELF IN HIS HYSTERIA!!!! WAS: Susan Cohen 
 and   Sara Salzman Said: "So kill Scotty Bradbury" and They Deny What 
 Sara's   Husband Has Posted Too! aka Re: Sara Salzman's  [delete lie]
References:   <3C46FD39.A54FAEC7@hers.com>   <3C47A067.C8C56F7D@hers.com> 
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Organization: Heller Information Services
Lines: 464
Path: hub.org!hub.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!opentransit.net!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!vienna7.his.com
Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:1341486 alt.sex.bondage:435133 alt.torture:81807 alt.sadistic:34838



_ - _- wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:11:19 -0500, <3C47A067.C8C56F7D@hers.com> Susan Cohen
>  wrote:
>
> >______ wrote:
> >
> >> On 17 Jan 2002 18:04:55 GMT,
> >>  Sara
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!
> >> >news.gtei.net!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!
> >> >newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!
> >> >newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master
> >> >From: Sara 
> >> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,alt.sadistic
> >> >Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's  [delete lie]
> >> >Date: 17 Jan 2002 18:04:55 GMT
> >> >Organization: Concentric Internet Services
> >> >Lines: 24
> >> >Message-ID: 
> >> >References: 
> >>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> My post which these two bitches who make death threats are whining about and
> >> seeking to deny!
> :
> >My, aren't we getting frazzeled! Such language! You ought to have a lie down, sweetie.
>
> Who's frazzeled? I just call you what you are and that is a bitch.

The more frazzled you get, the fouler your mouth becomes.
Thank you for continuing to prove your abject impotence.

> >> Subject: Sara Salzman's  Husband Training Five Year Old Girl as a "Domme" Sick
> >> Humor aka Definitive Proof "Cougar" Posted Using Sara's ISP Dial Up & Set the
> >> Reply to as Cougar@cris.com
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:57:37 -0600
> >> Message-ID: 
> >>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> >> 
> >> >
> >> ><3C46FD39.A54FAEC7@hers.com>
> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.177.56.26
> >> >User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC)
> >> >Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:1253587 alt.sex.bondage:641495 alt.torture:91112 alt.sadistic:38748
> >> >
> >> >In article <3C46FD39.A54FAEC7@hers.com>, flavia@his.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Bubba wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Pedophiles must be tortured til they die as slowly and painfully as
> >> >> > possible. I disgust those people.
> :
> >> >> So kill Scotty Bradbury - it's all his fabrication
> :
> >> (What I posted and what you deleted was not my fabrication you lying bitch.
> :
> >Yes, it was, you sad little moron.
>
> What I posted were the archived writings of Sara Salzman's husband.

You posted two separate messages but used the same message ID,
proving that the headers were faked.

> Care to remain in denial you bitch?

Care to prove how two completely different  messages can  have the same
exact message id?
You're the one in denial, and your continuing to call attention to it only proves
the fact.

> >> What I posted complete with URLS and headers came from Sara Salzman's husband's mind
> :
> >No, they did not. There was nothing that proved they came from Sara Salzman
> >and you know it.. They were faked, through and through.
>
> They were his posts.

Repeating the lie does not make it true.
You put the same message ID in both pretend messages.

> >> so it is his fabrications!
>
> True. Sara's husband fabricated those posts.

I'd have to say that this sentence alone shows how mentally unstable
you are. If the posts are fabrications, then your accusations are false.
So why would he fabricate them? Just to give you something to rave
about?

All this statement is is but another Freudian slip on your part.
The posts are indeed fabrications: yours, as proven by the incredibly
clumsy slip you made in fabricating them.

> >AHA!  THE FRUEDIAN SLIP!
> >SCOTTY ADMITS IT'S A FABRICATION!!!!
>
> You're desperate.

Now there's that projectionism of yours.
You admitted it was a fabrication - you do it again in this post.
There is no desperation on my part, just laughter.

> >> I restore what you deleted at the bottom so all may
> >> see what a bitch and a liar you truly are.)
> :
> >Thank you for showing that I am no such thing.
> >I never denied making the post below.
> >What I do note is that the death threat was actually
> >made by someone else.
>
> I was not the one who made the posts those archives showed.

Actually, the archives only show *your* posting of the supposed
posts. Which show that you merely typed them in, *incorrect message
ID* and all, into your post.

> >I merely directed it to the correct target.
>
> So you admit it!

Uh, moron, I admit that I changed the direction of a death threat made
by someone else.
But if you want to keep pretending I made a death threat, go right ahead.
You've proven that you don't even believe yourself, because you have not
taken the appropriate action for death threats.

> >But if you think it's a real death threat, PLEASE call the FBI.
> >I want you to. No, I demand it.
>
> What makes you think what you posted won't be added to the files?

The fact that you *drooled* over lousy automatic replies from
Sara's & my ISPs. but have posted absolutely nothing from the FBI.
Your impotence is such that you would let the entire world know if
you actually contacted the FBI, just to show how "big" you are.
And you haven't.

> >> Here are the headers to the above "death threat" made by Susan Cohen:
> >>
> >> Message-ID: <3C46FD39.A54FAEC7@hers.com>
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:35:06 -0500
> >> From: Susan Cohen 
> >> Reply-To: flavia@his.com
> >> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47  (Win95; U)
> >> X-Accept-Language: en
> >> MIME-Version: 1.0
> >> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,alt.sadistic
> >> Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's  [delete lie]
> >> References: 
> >> 
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: max2h-236.his.com
> >>
> >> Are you now making death threats bitch Susan Cohen?
>
> >Interesting how you start the hysterics before you even get to the post.
>
> You hung yourself and your damage control is pathetic.

I need no damage control because there is no damage.
You prove it yourself by your inaction.

> >> I did not post what you are replying to
> :
> >I never said you did,  you pathetic  braindead slob!!!
> :
> >> and I defy you or any of your fellow filthy vermin to prove so!
> :
> >Gee, Ibet you feel real strong, tough and intelligent throwing out
> >such a ridiculous strawman.
> :
> >> Here are the headers:

I note something interesting in *this* header, too.
Please note that this was posted *by Scotty*

>
> >>
> >> Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!
> >> nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!
> >> news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.64.68.27!newsgate.cistron.nl!
> >> amsnews01.chello.com!amsnews02.chello.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
> >> From: "Bubba" 
> >> Newsgroups:
> >> alt.revisionism,alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,soc.culture.jewish,alt.sadistic
> >> References: 
> >> Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's  Husband Training Five Year Old Girl as a "Domme"
> >> Sick Humor aka Definitive Proof "Cougar" Posted Using Sara's ISP Dial Up & Set
> >> the Reply to as Cougar@cris.com
> >> Lines: 213
> >> X-Priority: 3
> >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> >> Message-ID: 
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:30:35 GMT
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.93.153.66
> >> X-Complaints-To: abuse@chello.com
> >> X-Trace: amsnews02.chello.com 1011285035 213.93.153.66 (Thu, 17 Jan 2002
> >> 17:30:35 MET)
> >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:30:35 MET
> >> Organization: chello broadband
> >> Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:1253570 alt.sex.bondage:641492
> >> alt.torture:91107 soc.culture.jewish:811180 alt.sadistic:38745
> >>
> >> Pedophiles must be tortured til they die as slowly and painfully as
> >> possible. I disgust those people.
> >> "^.^"  schreef in
> >> bericht news:arsc4uoam6nr7ht8ojus6npkia274iibfi@4ax.com...

Please note the above message ID. It specifically states that this was
something written by Scotty.
Now look at the repost below of Scotty's own allegation:

> >> Subject: Sara Salzman's  Husband Training Five Year Old Girl as a "Domme" Sick
> >> Humor aka Definitive Proof "Cougar" Posted Using Sara's ISP Dial Up & Set the
> >> Reply to as Cougar@cris.com
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:57:37 -0600
> >> Message-ID: 
> >>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And those are *his* "carrot marks" to identify the message ID.
Scotty can't even come up with a different message ID for his lies.

> >> > schwartz@infinet.com
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> >> Susan
> >> :
> >> >Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.
> :
> >> So you agree with death threats against me?
> :
> >Thank you for admititng that you are a pedophile.
>
> How do you take my statement as me admitting I'm a pedophile you stupid bitch?

Ah. that language again. It just underscores the fact that I caught you out.
I take it the only way anyone who actually reads English can take it
Let's see if I can simplify what was posted in black & white so even you
can understand it:

Person A: Pedophiles should be tortured to death

Susan [Something snipped by Scotty - most likely my telling
Person A that the object of his wrath is Scotty, who wrote the
post Person A has identified as coming from a pedophile]

Sara: I agree

Scotty: You made death threats against me!

[end attempt at simplification for the overly simple]

Now, I would ask how you could even begin to deny that you
admit you're a pedophile, but your grasp on reality is so notoriously
slim that I won't bother triggering another avalanche of profane
gibberish.

> >> See how your true colors show you bitch!?
> :
> >Actually, you slavering manical fool, you've admitted YOUR OWN.
> :
> >> I have it archived along with your headers.
> :
> >I hope you did. As I will archive this post, replete with your headers,
> >to show just how completely low you are, & how easily it is to get
> >you to admit it.
>
> I admitted nothing even though you have tried to fabricate an admission to
> divert from the fact you made a death threat.

Not at all. I demand that you treat me as tho' I actually made a death
threat against you.

> >> >Why Mr. Bradbury continues to spam alt.sex.bondage and other groups is
> >> >beyond me.
> :
> >> I just put you where you belong Sara "The Fist" Salzman.
> :
> >Translation: more of Scotty's fantasies.
>
> How is posting what her husband has posted my fantasy?

Because this is not what you did, as was evidenced by your clumsy
attempt to forge the posts.

> I merely show what Sara's
> perverted husband wrote and nothing more!

See above. You stupidly marked them both as having the same message ID.

> >> > He's not going to get any support there,
> :
> >> I'm not looking for support.
> :
> >Then you admit that you are spamming.
>
> Why do you always make stupid assumptions?

Why do you always project like this?

> >> I just want your fellows to come and carry you back
> >> to where you're at home in alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,alt.sadistic!
> :
> >Yeah, rightm because Usenet is an actual location, and all the newsgroups
> >are physical entities....
> >
> >Scotty is slipping further & further into LaLa Land....
>
> That is your home.

Now *this* is truly funny." I know you are but what am I?"
Most of us gave this up before we were out of single digits.

> >> >especially since he is lying about everything Cougar said.
> :
> >> I have not lied one bit about what your husband said.
> :
> >Of course you did.
>
> Not so!

Don't forget to stamp your foot & hold your breath!!
Maybe if your face turns an interesting shade of blue, we might
forget how you put the same message ID into two supposedly
different posts.
And maybe pigs will sprout wings.

> >> Care to show where I lied?
> :
> >You show it yourself.
> :
> >> I posted his words
> :
> >You post your own words ---
>
> I posted Sara's husband's archived words.

You're the only one who believes this by now, Scotty.
Your repetition of it only how incredibly desperate you are.

> >> and gave the URLs as I do here right now:
> :
> >--- & pretend that the URLs lead to
> >his words. They lead to yours, as everyone can see.
>
> You really are in deep denial aren't you?

You show that. as usual, you project your own failings onto others.

> >> Everyone verify the Message ID to see how they match too!
> :
> >Yes, see how they are all fabrications of Scotty's.
> >It's all too obvious - to everyone but Scotty.
>
> You really are in deep denial aren't you?

Nothing original to say? Not surprising. Almost as unsurprising
as your constant disregard for the truth.

> >> From: ^.^ 
> >> Newsgroups:
> >> alt.revisionism,alt.sex.bondage,alt.torture,soc.culture.jewish,alt.sadistic
> >> Subject: Sara Salzman's  Husband Training Five Year Old Girl as a "Domme" Sick
> >> Humor aka Definitive Proof "Cougar" Posted Using Sara's ISP Dial Up & Set the
> >> Reply to as Cougar@cris.com
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:57:37 -0600
> >> Message-ID: 
> >>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> schwartz@infinet.com
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=schwartz-0201960750240001%40cmh-p077.infinet.com
> >> From: schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
> >> Subject: Re: Compuserve
> >> Date: 1996/01/02
> >> Message-ID: 
> >> organization: Cat's Lair
> >> reply-to: Cougar@cris.com
> >> newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage
> >>
> >> schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:
> >>
> >> >What a bunch of chickenshits at Compuserve for denying access to
> >> >"pornographic" groups because the German government is whining about it.
> >> >
> >> >Funny... I don't see the German government getting upset about the Nazi
> >> >groups online.
> >> >
> >> >Compuserve caved. I'm GLAD I get my addess through a provider that doesn't
> >> >play those games.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes, Compuslop has once again decided they'd rather kow-tow to the
> >> few, rather than stand on any principles. To call them chickenshits is
> >> a bit unfair, however. To chickenshit.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I have heard that some folks posting on this topic have gotten flamed
> >> for "supporting pedophiles". I don't know which trailer park such
> >> flamers live in or I'd be asking the powers that be for a tornado
> >> about now.
> >>
> >> < >> minimalizes child porn just like Ken McVay does!! It only figures this
> >> "Wild Bunch" would be allies!!>
> >>
> >> Cougar
> >>
> >>                 ~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
> >>
> >>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >HERE'S THE PROOF.
> >This is the EXACT SAME Message ID as a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
> >message Scotty ALSO claims comes from Sara's husband!!!
> >I LOVE IT!!
> >
> >(Pardon the shouting, but that's just how  hard I am laughing over here)
> >
> >I figured having shot himself in the foot (both feet &* the chest, more like!)
> >so comp;letely & finally, I will delete the rest of Scotty's nonsense.
> >Stick a fork in him folks, he's done!!!
> >
> >Susan
>
> Here are the archives which mentally unbalanced Cohen says are mine:

Sad desperate little liar. The only ones I'm talking about
were the ones where you put

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
in for *both* of the message IDs.
But let's not let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

> According to lying bitch

Ah, that language again! The sweet smell of victory - I love it!

> Susan Cohen I'm cougar@cris.com and I posted from
> Sara's account!

No, moron. According to me, you faked the messages,
which never came from Sara's account.
This I like me screaming that you accused me of being the
Easter Bunny. Any moron can make up a false accusation
& then deny it - of course, you're not just any moron, you're ---

>                                         Doc Tavish

--- the ultimate moron.

Susan


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