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From hostrov@uniserve.com Sat Oct 26 09:52:40 PDT 1996
Article: 77135 of alt.revisionism
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From: hostrov@uniserve.com (Hilary Ostrov)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Belling/Blackmore:  Profiles in Cowardice?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:14:28 GMT
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Sometimes "surfing" Deja News can be as enlightening as surfing the
Web.  Mr. "Blackmore" recently enjoined readers to search for his
"answers" to Mr. Gandhi's questions.  Mr. "Blackmore" claimed to have
posted such answers "over and over again."  Perhaps other readers were
more successful than I in finding these alleged "answers" but I didn't
find any.  During the course of my search, however, I _did_ find the
following profile:

http://xp5.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=rblackmore@juno.com

AUTHOR PROFILE: rblackmore@juno.com

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•921 articles posted between 1996/07/28 and 1996/10/25. •85 %
followups. •Number of articles posted to individual newsgroups
(slightly skewed by cross-postings): 
•917 alt.revisionism •2 acadia.chat •1 alt.best.of.internet •1
alt.rock-n-roll.oldies 

Well, alt.best.of.internet and alt.rock-n-roll.oldies seemed
self-explanatory, but I had no idea what acadia.chat might be so I
decided to follow the convenient link from the profile.  There I
found:

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Article 2 of 2


Subject:      look and you shall see...
From:         rblackmore@juno.com
Date:         1996/07/29
Message-Id:   <4thi81$rlr@juliana.sprynet.com>
Organization: Sprynet News Service
Newsgroups:   acadia.chat

hello ? antone out there 12-14 e-mail me . i am thirteen and ... well
if you e-mail me at jbelling@sprynet.com 

you can find out more about me i am a female.
 
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This was an interesting discovery!  In reading the contributions of
Mr. "Blackmore" to alt.revisionism, I have often wondered if perhaps
"he" was a young teenager who had - unbeknownst to his parents - been
using the family computer.  And here it turns out that "he" is not
only a teenager, but also a "she" who invites responses to yet another
persona, one "jbelling."

I also found the date of this particular post quite interesting.   A
day later (July 30), I had received two e-mails from
  Here are the headers:

From: rblackmore@juno.com
Received: (from rblackmore@juno.com) by x6.boston.juno.com (queuemail)
	id QAA11270; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 16:16:45 EDT
To: hostrov@uniserve.com
Subject: Re: Hilary is full of it

From: rblackmore@juno.com
Received: (from rblackmore@juno.com) by x6.boston.juno.com (queuemail)
	id QAA12788; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 16:24:04 EDT
To: hostrov@uniserve.com
Subject: Re: Hilary is full of it


Oh, in case Mr/Ms Blackmore/Belling is wondering why I failed to
respond to either of these missives, I ignored both because neither
message answered the question I had posed to the writer (whoever s/he
might have been):

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Subject:      Re: Hilary is full of it
From:         hostrov@uniserve.com (Hilary Ostrov)
Date:         1996/07/30
Message-Id:   <4tlq6n$1la@atlas.uniserve.com>
Distribution: world
References:   <4tkqgf$d0h@juliana.sprynet.com>
Organization: myssiwyg*
Newsgroups:   alt.revisionism


In <4tkqgf$d0h@juliana.sprynet.com>, rblackmore@juno.com wrote:

>Not all revisionists are racists, much as you would like the web-browsers to think so, Hilary.

Mr/Ms. Blackmore:

Perhaps, since you choose not to observe customary USENET courtesies
and conventions, you would care to elaborate on this comment.  You
could start by giving some indication of what I might have said - and
where - that has led you to this particular erroneous conclusion.

Posted/e-mailed

hro
[sig deleted. hro]

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Nor, I might add, did his/her "public" response, 4 days later:

*****************
Subject:      Re: Hilary is full of it
From:         rblackmore@juno.com
Date:         1996/08/03
Message-Id:   <4tv1ol$sc3@juliana.sprynet.com>
Organization: Sprynet News Service
Newsgroups:   alt.revisionism



Oh!  I am sorry!  So you don't believe revisionists are racists?

********************

Gee, does anyone see anything familiar in this particular posting
pattern?!

For the record,  it seems that Mr/Ms "Blackmore" decided to retire
his/her jbelling alter ego in September:

http://xp5.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=jbelling@sprynet.com

AUTHOR PROFILE: jbelling@sprynet.com

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•54 articles posted between 1996/06/17 and 1996/09/05. •46 %
followups. •Number of articles posted to individual newsgroups
(slightly skewed by cross-postings): 
•45 alt.revisionism •2 alt.feminazis •2 alt.politics.white-power •1
alt.homosexual •1 alt.recovery.catholicism •1 alt.romance.mature-adult
•1 alt.skinheads •1 alt.teens 

So tell me, Mr/Ms "Blackmore/Belling" who really _did_ send me those
two e-mails on July 30?  A little 13 year-old girl?  If not, which of
your alter egos sent me the e-mails?

Oh, whichever one of you sent the e-mail reply to the courtesy copy of
my post in the thread  Re: Mike Curtis's "Gas Chambers" (Oct. 25),
please post your e-mail publicly (to alt.revisionism - not one of the
other newsgroups s/he has frequented on occasion) if you would like a
response.

And do tell us, Mr/Ms "Blackmore/Belling"  should we be asking if you
know what your children are up to?  Or should we be asking if your
children know what you are up to?  

Oh, btw,  was s/he disappointed that  didn't
reply to 's scintillating response to ebilling's
plea?  

And while you are at it, maybe you could put away all your little
masks (yes, I know Halloween is coming up soon, but do try) and let
the REAL Blackmore/Belling person speak.  Let him/her put forward
(finally) - in a concise, adult fashion - a statement of his/her
position along with _verifiable_ sources for any claims s/he might
make in support of this "position." [With or without help from his/her
ghost writer.]

Or would you prefer to continue to work on the "Profile in Cowardice"
autobiographical portrait that you are painting for us with your
little one-liners and a multitude of other unartful dodges?

hro


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