From firstname.lastname@example.org Fri Sep 8 09:34:16 PDT 1995 Article: 6497 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!premier3.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!news.netvision.net.il!usenet From: email@example.com Newsgroups: uk.religion.jewish,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.homosexual,alt.conspiracy Subject: "PINK TRIANGLE or PINK SWASTIKA Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 00:59:37 PDT Organization: NetVision LTD. Lines: 157 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts23p9.netvision.net.il Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:6497 alt.politics.libertarian:105772 alt.homosexual:45553 alt.conspiracy:6089 "PINK TRIANGLE or PINK SWASTIKA" Lambda Report on Homosexuality, April-June 1995 Edition THE DEBATE OVER HOMOSEXUAL NAZIS Sexual Deviance Fueled Nazism Response to Christine Mueller Reed College Oregon By: Kevin Abrams In response to Professor Christine Mueller's "Still A Pink Triangle," I leave it up to the reader to judge whether there was any intention on my part to either misinform or mislead as Ms. Mueller implies. I was far more concerned than she that a few of her corrections were valid. Mueller rightly notes it was not Hitler, but Stennes, who with Roehm and Heines helped to impose Roehm's exclusively homosexual clique over the S.A. She is also correct about Hitler being labeled the vain operetta queen in Munich by Goebbels. Vanity, as Ms. Mueller may know, is a negative female characteristic and Hitler's character has often been described as effeminate. Once again, those who promote homosexuality as a societal norm have leveled bogus charges of homophobia against anyone who disagrees with them. How is it that Ms. Mueller and her supporters, Professor Ed Segel and Steven Wasserstrom, are not aware of the fraudulant political and scientific basis upon which homosexuals lay claim to legitimacy? On behalf of all those who reject the positive affirmation of homosexuality, including the reputable National Socialist historians Konrad Heiden, William Shirer and Samuel Igra none of whom can any longer speak for themselves and who Ms. Mueller has the chutzpa to slander, I categorically reject the label of `homophobe.' Homosexualists have too long been responsible for sickness, brutality, war and destruction. The record clearly shows there is no such thing as an irrational fear of homosexuality and its consequences. Chronic sexual deviance brings about economic collapse, political chaos and totalitarianism. Ms. Mueller supports this thesis when she emphasizes "the presence of homosexuality in all parts of German society." Samuel Igra in his book Germany's National Vice writes, "Untill the coming of Hitler those unnatural vices so prevalent and so talked about, were looked upon as evil things . . . but under the National Socialist movement they have been elevated to a philosophy of life which is taught even by university professors as the basis of the new political and social structure in Germany." It was not I who described the most warlike nations as those who were most addicted to the love of male youths but historian Eva Cantarella, in her book, Bisexuality In Ancient Rome. It must be clarified, the Nazis WERE NOT Right-wing, Conservative, Creationists; they were Left-Wing, Darwinian, Evolutionary Socialists. As a principle, pederasty parallels a militaristic Hellenic revival. [SA leader] Ernst Roehm, Gerhard Rossbach and Edmond Heines were only the well known leading National Socialist pederasts. They corrupted hundreds, if not thousands, of German youth into homosexuality. Without the support of his close homosexualist friends, especially Roehm, Hitler could never have captured the Chancellor's office. Hitler did not have a "distain" for Roehm's homosexuality; rather he was more concerned with adverse public opinion. In Mein Kampf, Hitler concealed two things, his own sexual deviance and his participation in the black arts. Walter C. Langer in his book, The Mind Of Hitler, developed a psychological profile of Hitler. Prepared as a secret wartime report, Langer found that Hitler was encumbered with a very volatile form of sadomasochism and had a typical homosexual profile and background. Robert G.L. Waite in his book, The Psychopathic God, came to similar conclusions. Mueller's ignorance about the origins of the S.S. symbol may be understandable. The "SS" rune symbol was originally used by Guido Von List, who formed the society bearing his name in Vienna at the turn of the century. List's society was accused of practicing of form of Hindu tantrism which used sexual perversion in its rituals and substituted the swastika for the cross. List was the leader of a blood brotherhood and a racial occultist who wrote several books on the magic principles of rune letters (from which he chose the "SS" symbol). In 1908, List formed "Schutzstaffeln" (protection squads) of urban homosexuals. Members of the list squad used the familiar Nazi "Heil" greeting. Ernst Roehm would later adopt the name, the "SS" symbol and the protection squad concept for use by the Nazis. Heinrich Himmler did not declare a war against homosexuality but condemned it within the S.S. because he perceived it as a hindrance to propagating replacement Aryan Supermen. As Dr. Charles Socarides of NARTH [The National Association For Research And Treatment Of Homosexuality] explains in his article, "The Erosion Of Heterosexuality," (Washington Times,July 5, 1994), "Homosexuality cannot make a society or keep one going for long. It (homosexuality) operates against the cohesive elements of society. It drives the sexes in opposite directions, and no society can long endure when either the child is neglected or the sexes war with each other." Mueller's use of a 1937 quote by Himmler in her Internet response of October 1994 to my August 1994 article in The Lambda Report, `The Other Side Of The Pink Triangle,' fails to prove widespread persecution of homosexuals. It does reveal, however, that between 1937-1945, inclusive, a total of `90' members of the S.S. were purged for homosexuality. Considering the times and the brutality of the S.S., why would Mueller be so concerned with this `massive' persecution of Nazi homosexuals? Mueller repeatedly quotes historian James Steakley as a credible source. She will be interested to know Steakley was in British Columbia, Canada, last December speaking at the new Vancouver Holocaust Center. He is quoted in the Vancouver Sun as saying, "It was never the intention of the Nazi regime to physically exterminate gay people. Instead it was their intention to eliminate homosexuality" (amongst Aryans). Steakley pointed out, "Gay people were never in the same situation as Jews and Gypsies. They were never gassed in chambers, for example." He estimated that between 5,000 and 15,000 gay men and possibly only 100 lesbians were killed in concentration camps; "by contrast, the Nazis killed about 5.8 million Jews." In his book, The Gestapo, Jacques Delarue writes, "During the latter months of 1934 (after the Roehm purge) and the beginning of 1935, unknown killers murdered nearly 150 S.S. leaders. On the corpses was pinned a littlecard bearing the initials `R.R.' This meant Racher Roehm, the "Avengers of Roehm." As Willi Frischauer points out in his 1953 book, Himmler, The Evil Genius Of The Third Reich, homosexualist were at least, for a time, identified with a brown triangle. The truth is that the S.S. did arrest and incarcerate thousands of `Roehmist brownshirted homosexualists,' who understandably, were considered to be enemies of the State. The pink triangle may have been introduced at a later date to identify effeminate homosexuals, those who were framed on charges of homosexuality, and as a catch-all category. The fact is, super-masculine Nazi homosexualists like Roehm and Heines despised and exploited passive effeminate homosexuals. The author stands by his original thesis - that sexual deviance fueled the National Socialist Revolution and gave birth to Nazi imperialism and the Holocaust. Ayn Rand, in her famous book, Atlas Shrugged, identified the concept of the corruption of virtue. Others say evil has no life of its own and therefore must attach itself to good. Does Ms. Mueller truly believe Thomas Jefferson would have approved of her position and her use of his words? I think not. Abrams writes frequently about homosexuality and gay activism. He is the co-author with Scott Lively, of the recently released book, "THE PINK SWASTIKA, Homosexuality In The Nazi Party." [The above reprinted from, Peter Labarbara's, April-June 1995 lambda Report on Homosexuality] THE PINK SWASTIKA may be ordered by calling 1-800-828-2290 or by enclosing 11.95 U.S. including postage and handling and a return shipping address to: BOOK OFFER P.O. BOX 5271 SALEM OREGON U.S.A. 97304 The authors would be happy to respond to any questions or comments.
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