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State Attorney Bach:  The next document is our No. 112. It
was T/37(59). It contains fully detailed instructions from
Dannecker for the deportation of the Jews: Those who shall
be taken, what they were allowed to take with them, what to
put in each railway carriage, etc.

Presiding Judge: This will be T/425.

State Attorney Bach:  The next document will be our document
No. 169. Zeitschel from the Embassy informs the BdS that
Dannecker told him that he urgently needs 50,000 Jews from
the unoccupied zone for transport to the East and he reports
about measures he has taken in this respect.

Presiding Judge: This will be T/426.

State Attorney Bach:  Our next number is 1069, where
Dannecker states again that Jews older than those deported
up to now may be included.

Presiding Judge: This will be T/427.

State Attorney Bach:  He stresses vis-a-vis the French that
there is no need to deport only certain kinds of Jews and
stresses on the contrary that the deportation of the Jews is
necessary for security reasons.

The next document is our No. 97 and it is one of the crucial
documents. It is a report drafted by the Accused about a
meeting he had with Dannecker in Paris on 1 July 1942.
Almost everything that happened after this came about as a
result of that meeting.

Presiding Judge: This will be T/428.

State Attorney Bach:  Here it says: "Regarding the work
connected with the Final Solution of the Jewish Question in
France the following points emerge:

(a) Implementation work in the occupied part: Clear and
without friction.

(b) Preparatory political work with a view to practical
implementation in the unoccupied part not yet fully
completed as the French Government causes increasing

In view of the order of the RF SS* {*Reichsfuehrer-SS
(Himmler's title).}  (sent to Section IVB4 by Chief of
Department IV on 23.6.42) according to which all Jews
residing in France must be deported as soon as possible, the
continued speeding up of the work makes the exertion of
pressure on the French Government absolutely unavoidable. It
is clear that practical results cannot be attained from one
day to the next, but in the meantime there are the
transports from the occupied part so that, in view of the
difficulties in the unoccupied part, the RF SS order can
nevertheless be fully implemented for the moment. With this
object in view negotiations were conducted with Knochen.

     "It was arranged in clear and mandatory form with SS
     Hauptsturmfuehrer Dannecker that the Jews delivered to
     their destination are to be regarded as stateless on
     entering the Reich area and that, in addition, the
     legal questions concerning their property must be
     settled in every respect. The legal underpinnings which
     may be necessary for this purpose must be provided by
     the local office with all the necessary energy since,
     in case of failure in this respect, the greatest
     unpleasantness is to be expected from the point of view
     of foreign policy and this has to be avoided by all
     means in implementing the order of the RF SS.
     "In conclusion it was decided that the pace envisaged
     until now (three transports of 1,000 Jews per week)
     would have to be speeded up considerably before long
     with a view to relieving France completely of Jews in
     the shortest possible time. The necessary preliminary
     technical measures connected with the transports are
     now being taken from Berlin. The Paris Office has to
     make sure that the pace originally determined is
     adhered to in the interest of the frictionless
     completion of the Final Solution of the Jewish
     Question." Signed Eichmann, SS Obersturmbannfuehrer and
     Dannecker, SS Obersturmfuehrer.

The next document is our No. 59, which is also numbered

Presiding Judge: By the way, the last document, the
preceding one, was it shown to the Accused?

State Attorney Bach:  I now come to this point. The
proceeding document is included in a collection of documents
which I now submit. The whole batch was shown to the
Accused. I now put it before you, it is our No. 59,
T/37(26). I submitted it (No. 97) separately because this
most important document, precisely this one, is poorly
printed in the collection which I have just submitted to

Presiding Judge: The collection is T/429.

State Attorney Bach:  As I said the same document is
included here, together with a covering letter from
Dannecker to Knochen, in which he says: "As per instruction
I attach hereto the minute by Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichmann
on the arrangement concerning the large-scale deportation of
Jews from France..." This is additional proof that the
Accused was indeed the author of the document I read out

The third memorandum here in this collection says that
following the discussion there is already a consultation
with the Section officers for the Jewish Question in the
Security Police units which was also held on 1 July 1942.
The subject here is the deportation of 50,000 Jews and on
page 2 states that various questions are to be clarified.
How many Jews can be deported, how many children are to be
left behind, how many aged Jews will remain, how many do not
wear the star, etc.

Presiding Judge: Are you now passing on to a different

State Attorney Bach:  Not exactly a different chapter, but I
think this is a convenient point to stop, because I now come
to the question of the children and there I may have several
relevant documents and I shall also submit the testimony of
a witness who himself was present during these events.

Presiding Judge: All right. We shall now adjourn. The next
Session will be tomorrow morning, at 9 o'clock.

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