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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Is Ken McVay a Holocaust Profiteer? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:18:29 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 147 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: POlGgrK6OKCJR52kCO7JCw.user.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: firstname.lastname@example.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000767-2, 08/20/2007), Outbound message X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Is Ken McVay possibly a Holocaust Profiteer? McVay's picture: http://tinyurl.com/36bbup Could Nizkor be a complete scam? Ken McVay has appeared to be soliciting money to support himself, under the premise of "raising awareness" of the Holocaust. Can anyone point out any other source of income? Is not the thought anyone profiting from the Holocaust entirely abhorrent? Since the end of The Second World War, the Holocaust has been documented by governments, universities, and media outlets. It is and always will be an obvious fact. By pointing out "Hatemongers", he seems to reveals that he, himself is a man of intolerance and hate. He appears to be driven to denounce and silence anyone whose beliefs runs contrary to his own. He has lurked on email lists of these so-called hate groups. Nizkor could not have recorded these email without lurking as a spy on that list) I ask Ken now, "What is it to you what other people say to themselves in a closed conversation? Not realizing that many of these people are using the list as a cathartic release for their own frustrations. In this politically correct world, it may feel good to some to just let it all out. These lists were not used for plotting hate crimes, but were used for the intellectual and non-intellectual venting of frustrations. I, personally was on one because I had felt that I need to express my anger against my own father, who is Jewish. I felt that he had not taken the proper steps to have my mother screened for cancer. She died in 1996 of colon cancer that had attacked her liver. My mother was Japanese. I always felt my father never really liked me because I was of a different race. I always had to be achieving, If I wasn't, I did not exist to him. He had told me on many occasions how his family had objected to his marrying my mother. I wanted to be something entirely different. I wanted to experience what is was like to be a "regular white guy". One day on the list someone wrote about a man that was lurking on the list and then converting the text into newsgroup messages that essentially would be publicly posted forever. Not knowing who he exactly was, I decided to give him some additional material to read. I signed up his email address to 800 Netcom email lists. It was a dumb thing to do. McVay's posting of the incident has misrepresented who I really am, and has hurt my reputation. It is very difficult to fight this because he is on the far side of the continent in another country: 2301 Arbor Rd Ste 36 Nanaimo, BC Canada V9R 5K3 (250) 753-6762 He resides there with his school teacher wife and young adult daughter. Apparently Mr. McVay wants me to suffer forever. So, I'm posting my story, and my opinion on what he is all about. It's the only thing I can do. His provider Vex.net in Toronto tells me there is nothing they can do. It is interesting that they have a regulation against mass posting to newsgroups, yet that's precisely what he seemed to be doing with the email list I was on.. Maybe Vex.net had made the rule after receiving complaints about him. Is it possible that Ken McVay preys on the nightmares of the living Holocaust survivors? Does he have them believe that with out his help, the vast losses of life will not be forgotten? Many elderly people have a hard time understanding the Internet for what it is and for what it isn't. They may not realize how inexpensive a website really is. They would be horrified by the news that some how the Holocaust will be distorted and forgotten. In the U.S., speech is protected by the 1st amendment of the Bill of Rights. Thus I feel confident stating my story about how I am effected each day by the actions of a seemingly malicious, angry man, Ken McVay. I understand he is a former American citizen, so he should be very aware of how things work on this side of the border. He should realize it just doesn't protect the politically correct. Perhaps, this will finally get his attention, and encourage him to come to a reasonable conclusion to all of this. --Jeff Dranetz - email@example.com ***** http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html Yet, he seems to be using the money collected to live off of. Here are is claimed goals: http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html In contrast to our ideological opponents, the Nizkor Project has a completely open and visible agenda. We enumerate our goals below, in no particular order: a.. To monitor the falsehoods, half-truths, and misinformation distributed via the Internet and other media by individuals and organizations that are fascist (including Nazi or neo-Nazi), racist, antisemitic, and/or that dishonestly and/or flagrantly reject established historical fact about the Nazi Holocaust; b.. to refute or otherwise reply to those falsehoods, half-truths, and misinformation, with the aim of ensuring that they and their proponents remain firmly in the margin; c.. to encourage, assist, and engage in such refutation by sponsoring and organizing collaborative research and writing efforts of both amateurs and experts around the world, including but not limited to historians, war-crimes prosecutors, lawyers, and witnesses, and/or to distribute such refutation; d.. to encourage a critical and skeptical awareness of history, science, and the acquisition of human knowledge generally, so as to foster a frame of mind which recognizes such falsehoods, half-truths, and misinformation for what they are; e.. to seek, solicit, and archive, for worldwide electronic access free of charge, material that deals with the phenomenon and history of hate, especially the Nazi Holocaust, material that documents and exposes such hate, and nonviolent methods and tools for combating such hate. a.. to attempt to buttress democratic institutions against the campaign of destruction and disinformation being waged by hatemongers in electronic forums, principally on the Internet; b.. to provide teachers, from grade schools through universities, with curricula to bolster democratic, multicultural, and multiracial institutions; c.. to speak to or otherwise educate students, teachers, fraternal organizations, church groups, police forces, and any other interested groups, about the propaganda campaigns of racist and antidemocratic individuals and organizations conducted through computer networks, and about which nonviolent methods and tools are effective and ineffective in combating them.
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