From mcurtis@inetport.com Sat Dec 28 09:48:25 PST 1996
Article: 89457 of alt.revisionism
From: mcurtis@inetport.com (Mike Curtis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Tom Moran Lies, Yet Again (Re: False witness/ethnic
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:47:59 GMT
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Buckaroo@bonsai.organic (Doc Savage) wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:11:52 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
>wrote:
>
>>tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes:
>>
>># In Lueneburg, Germany, a Jewish physician, testifying at 
>># the trial of 45 men and women for war crimes at the Belsen
>># and Oswiecim [Auschwitz] concentration camps, said that 80,000
>># Jews, representing the entire ghetto of Lodz, Poland, had been
>># gassed or burned to death in one night at the Belsen camp. 
>>
>>This is just incredible. After Giwer had this lie shoved
>>down his throat, Tom Moran comes back with it, as if
>>nothing had happened. This is simply amazing.
>
>	Rather some silly little shit named Keren ranted about it for a few
>days and then dropped the matter for failure to deal with the words of
>the sworn, under oath, official testimony.  
>
>>Now listen, Moran, you little lying clown:
>>
>>1) The Jewish physician who testified about the 80,000 Jews 
>>   of the Lodz Ghetto was Dr. Bendel. He testified at the
>>   Belsen Trial, true, but there were many SS-men and women
>>   from Auschwitz who later went to Belsen, and they were
>>   tried for what they did in Auschwitz.
>>
>>   And Bendel testified that the mass gassing took place in
>>   Auschwitz, not Belsen. 
>>
>>   It is clear why you're lying. Since no such mass gassing
>>   took place in Belsen, you're trying to create the impression
>>   that Dr. Bendel said it did, in order to make him appear
>>   unreliable.
>>
>>   Can you justify your deplorable lie about Dr. Bendel?
>>
>>2) He did not say that the 80,000 people were gassed or burned
>>   in one night, but over a longer period of time.
>>
>>Let's see your excuse for posting these lies.
>
>	Unfortunately the 80,000 gassed or burned in a single night came
>from one of the Keren's silly shit spams, exactly as stated.
>Considering that Keren is the one who posted this why would a Keren be
>so upset when it is used by others?  Is this like the 10% solution?  
>\

>From  _The Trial of Josef Kramer and 44 others: The Belsen Trial_,
William Hodge and Company, 1949, page 130-131]

Charles sigsmund Bendel, sworn, examined by Colonel Backhouse -- I am
a Rumanian doctor living in Paris and when I was arrested on 4th
November, 1943, I had lived in France for 10 years. The reason for my
arrest was because I did not wear the Star of David, the Jewish star,
which I was forced to wear. I was taken to a camp called Drancy, near
Paris, and then to Auschwitz on the 10th December, 1943, where I
worked as a stone mason in a part of the camp called Buna. On the 1st
of January, 1944, I was transferred to the main camp, and on 27th
February, 1944, into the gipsy [sic] camp in Birkenau, where I worked
as a doctor. The senior doctor was called Dr. Mengele. He was in
charge of the whole medical side of that camp, particualrly infectious
diseases in which Professor Epstein from Prague and myself assisted.
Dr. Mengele engaged in the research of injections in the crematorium.
These were injections which were supposed to produce instantaneous
death, and in the gipsy camp he worked mainly on research tests
against twins. He continued to make all sorts of tests on those twins,
but it was not enough. He wanted to see them dead, to see what they
looked like. When first I went to that camp there were 11,000
occupants, but at the end of July, 1944, 4300 had gone to the
crematorium. Prior to that, 1500 had been selected for working parties
and all the others had died of natural causes or some other sort of
death in the camp. Those who went to the crematorium never left it
alive--they were gassed.

In Jume, 1944, was your employment changed? -- Indeed it was changed.
Dr. Mengele gave me the nonour to attach me to the crematorium. the
men who worked there were called Sonderkommando, a Special Kommando
numbering 900. They were all deported people. Just as there existed
Sondrkommando amongst the prisoners so there was a Sonderkommando also
amongst the S.S. They enjoyed special privileges, for instance, in
alcohol, and were completely separated from the other S.S.  There were
about fifteen S.S. in this Sonderkommando, three for each crematorium.
The prisoners amongst the Sonderkommando lived in the camp in two
blocks which were always locked, and were not allowed to leave them.
. . . . At first I lived in the camp with the other prisoners, but
later on in the crematorium itself. The first time I started work
there was in August, 1944. No one was gassed on that occasion, but 150
political prisoners, Russians and Poles, were led one by one to the
graves and they were shot. Two days later, when I was attached to the
day group, I saw a gas chamber in action. On that occasion it was the
ghetto at Lodz -- 80,000 people were gassed.

Would you describe just what happened that day? -- I came at seven
o'clock in the morning with the others and saw white smoke still
rising from the trenches, which indicated that a whole transport had
been liquidated or finished off during the night. In Crematorium No. 4
the result which was achieved by burning was apparently not
sufficient. The work was not going on quickly enough, so behind the
crematorium they dug three large trenches 12 metres long and 6 metres
wide. After a bit it was found that the results achieved even in these
three big trenches were not quick enough, so in the middle of these
big trenches they built two canals through which the human fat or
grease should seep so that work could be continued in a quicker way.
The capacity of thesetrenches was almost fantastic. Crematorium No. 4
was able to burn 1000 people during the day, but this system of
trenches was able to deal with the same number in one hour.



Mike Curtis 
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