Path: hub.org!hub.org!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: firstname.lastname@example.org Newsgroups: alt.books,alt.history,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Lenin's List Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:55:47 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Lines: 157 Message-ID: <email@example.com> References: <37c7f4a7.0@news1> <37ca6e31.0@news1> NNTP-Posting-Host: 188.8.131.52 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Aug 31 18:55:47 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x40.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 184.108.40.206 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDbinyomin Xref: hub.org alt.books:38693 alt.history:10814 soc.culture.german:138085 soc.culture.jewish:403581 In article <37ca6e31.0@news1>, "rory"
wrote: > > > > The Central Executive Committee, Wilton continues, was > made up of the following members: > Y. M. Sverdlov [Solomon] (Chairman) Jew > Avanesov (Secretary) Armenian > Bruno Latvian > Breslau Latvian [?] > Babtchinski Jew > N. I. Bukharin Russian > Weinberg Jew > Gailiss Jew > Ganzberg [Ganzburg ] Jew > Danichevski Jew > Starck German > Sachs Jew > Scheinmann Jew > Erdling Jew > Landauer Jew > Linder Jew > Wolach Czech > S. Dimanshtein Jew > Encukidze Georgian > Ermann Jew > A. A. Ioffe Jew > Karkhline Jew > Knigissen Jew > Rosenfeld (Kamenev) Jew > Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) Jew > N. Krylenko Russian > Krassikov Jew > Kaprik Jew > Kaoul Latvian > Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian > Latsis Jew > Lander Jew > Lunacharsky Russian > Peterson Latvian > Peters Latvian > Roudzoutas Jew > Rosine Jew > Smidovitch Jew > Stoutchka Latvian > Nakhamkes (Steklov) Jew > Sosnovski Jew > Skrytnik Jew > L. Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew > Teodorovitch Jew [?] > Terian Armenian > Uritsky Jew > Telechkine Russian > Feldmann Jew > Fromkin Jew > Souriupa Ukrainian > Tchavtchevadze Georgian > Scheikmann Jew > Rosental Jew > Achkinazi Imeretian [?] > Karakhane Karaim [Karaite] > Rose Jew > Sobelson (Radek) Jew > Schlichter Jew > Schikolini Jew > Chklianski Jew > Levine-(Pravdine) Jew > > Thus, concluded Wilton, out of 61 members, five were > Russians, six were Latvians, one was a German, two were > Armenians, one was a Czech, one was an Imeretian, two > were Georgians, one was a Karaim, one was a Ukrainian, > and 41 were Jews. When I saw the information in this post, I assumed it was using a propaganda technique that I call the "incomplete list." So since I was going to be using the library anyway, I decided to pick one of Soviet government agencies on these lists and see what I could learn about it. I picked the Central Executive Committee. According to a book I found useful, Ronald Hill's "The Soviet Union: Politics, Economics, and Society from Lenin to Gorbachev," London: Pinter Publishers, 1989, p. 95, the Central Executive Committee was composed of 200 members during the revolutionary period. According to another useful book, Benjamin Pinkus's "The Jews of the Soviet Union: The History of a National Minority," Cambridge, 1988, p. 81, in 1929 the Central Executive Committee contained 55 Jews, 95 Ukranians, and 402 Russians as well as members from other nationalities. So yes, Jews were over-represented considering what a small minority they were, but the crazily high percentages implied in the above post are obviously obtained by using incomplete lists. And, of course, the Soviets began persecuting religious Jews early on, and in decades closer to our own time the Soviet Union became one of the principal anti-Semitic regimes. Binyomin -- Binyomin Kaplan http://binyomin.home.gs.net Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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