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         Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression, Supplement B
       Streicher Summarizes His Jewish Policy: Zionism
                              
     Excerpts from Testimony of Julius Streicher, taken
     at Nurnberg, Germany, 7 October 1945, 1545-1555,
     by col. Howard A. Brundage, JAGD. Also present:
     Lord Wright, head of the United Nations War Crimes
     Commission; Pfc. Richard W. Sonnenfeldt,
     Interpreter; WOJG Jack Rund, Court Reporter.
     
Q. What action did you take with respect to the formulation
and the enactment of the Nurnberg laws?

A. Unfortunately I had nothing to do with the Nurnberg laws.
Unfortunately I had nothing to do with them, but the Fuehrer
once mentioned the matter to me and he said that there was a
Jewish law by Ezra, in the Old Testament. He said that an
old Jewish law existed, which had been brought out by Moses,
which said that Jews were not to marry any non-Jewish women.
Then at a later time, Jews had married quite a few non-
Jewish women, and Ezra acted against this.

Q. How many times did you talk with Hitler about your
beliefs regarding the anti-Semitic program?

A. Well, Hitler published his book, "Mein Kampf," and thus
he manifested his opinions about this subject for the
public.

Q. Didn't that pretty accurately reflect your opinions?

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A. Yes, of course.

Q. Where did he get his opinion from?

A. The Fuehrer tells in his book "Mein Kampf" that he
mentioned a man by the name of -- I believe his name was
Leugel, and also another man by the name of Soureil. He says
his anti-Semitic views stem from that time.

Q. In your opinion, were not the Nurnberg laws a
crystallization of the beliefs that you had been teaching in
Germany?

A. The Fuehrer did not tolerate any influences in matters of
an ideological nature. You could not counsel him in such
things.

Q. No, but you had been teaching, and writing articles on
the question of blood and race.

A. I wrote those things already before I made the
acquaintance of the Fuehrer.

Q. Yes, and before the enactment of the Nurnberg laws.

A. Yes. A long time before that.

Q. How many years?

A. I made my first speech in November of 1918, when I
returned from the front.

Q. The first time you met Hitler you claimed that you had a
following larger than his, is that correct?

A. I was talking of the number in Nurnberg, and that was a
labor movement.

BY LORD WRIGHT:

Q. What did you advocate, in those days, as the proper
treatment of the Jews?

A. I always stood for the Zionist opinion. I will only
mention here Theodore Herzl, who was one of the most famous
leaders of the Jews, and he wrote in his diary that you will
find anti-Semitism everywhere. That is, you will find it in
all those countries where Jews were present; and wherever
Jews were settling to, anti-Semitism would rise there.

Q. But what were you going to do?

A. Like him, I advocated a National State for the Jews. It
is interesting here that Herzl does not object to the racial
question. He recognized the Jews as a separate state. The
English Government was petitioned in the last war, and again
in this war, and Mr. Churchill knows all that, that a
certain part of Palestine was to be set apart, as an area
for the Jews. Who was that English statesman in the last war
-- it was not Lloyd-George -- oh, yes, I remember, it was
Balfour. He made a declaration wherein he promised at the
end of the war negotiations should be started, and the aim
of these negotiations should be that the Jews were to

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receive an autonomous state in Palestine. Thus it was to be
assured that they would have a political home in the world.

Q. Do you know how large Palestine is?

A. Palestine itself is not very large. I believe that I read
some Jewish books which claimed there were 16 million Jews
in the world, and thus the land in Palestine would not be
enough for them. However, their demands were to found a
state of their own.

Q. You knew, then, that you couldn't get them all into
Palestine?

A. Yes? Whether I knew that?

Q. Yes.

A. Well, I thought about it a great deal, and I thought that
if they were to be given just Palestine itself, it would not
be enough. Then people say that the Arabs were not at all in
favor of this idea. I was thinking of Transjordan, and also
Syria, that might be given to them.


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