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         Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression, Supplement B
 Funk's Implication in Looting of Concentration Camp Victims
                              
     Excerpts from Testimony of Oswald Pohl, taken at
     Nurnberg, Germany, 4 June 1946, 1400-1630,  by Dr.
     Robert Kempner, and Lt. Col. Smith W. Brookhart,
     Jr., IGD. Also present: Bert Stein, Interpreter;
     Piilani A. Ahuna, Court Reporter.

                                                 [Page 1589]

Q. I should like to refer to a matter about which I have
just checked. The transfer of gold from concentration camps
started in the summer of 1942, did it not?

A. Yes.

Q. Is that correct?

A. After I heard that Himmler had a conversation with Funk
in the summer of 1942, it must have been the starting point
of this matter.

Q. You received your orders from above?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you still think that the textile matter was in 1943 or
1944, or do you say it was earlier?

A. That must, of course, have fallen into the same period.

Q. You have said yesterday, or this morning, that Funk knew
what this was all about. Is that correct?

A. Yes, that was so. I said that.

Q. You stated that these were things coming from the actions
against the Jews?

A. I told him that those were things which came from the
actions against the Jews which were handed over to the
textile industries.

Q. Which actions against the Jews are you speaking of and
where did they take place? I mean, was it in western or
eastern Germany?

A. I do not believe that I explained it any further, because
Funk knew.

Q. What did Funk know?

A. Where it came from, otherwise he would have asked me, but
I don't remember that he ever asked me and I don't doubt
that Himmler has told him about it.

Q. Was it a self-evident matter?

A. Yes, for me it was quite self-evident.

Q. Was it self-evident for him also, that it was not from
living Jews?

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A. That, I suppose so.

Q. You stated yesterday that the Jewish affair was generally
known?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you include Funk in that?

A. Yes.

Q. And what are the two details which you especially know
that Funk knew about these happenings?

Q. First, from his conversation with Himmler, secondly from
the conversation with me.

Q. About what?

A. About the textiles.

              Extermination of Mental Patients
                              
Q. Do you know that Frick and Conti emptied the institutes
for the mentally sick and other sick by simply killing the
patients? [See documents 615-PS, vol. III, p. 449; 621-PS,
vol. III, p. 451.]

A. Yes, that was told.

Q. Do you know whether one sent their old clothing and other
things to the SS also and other agencies?

A. No, I don't know that.

Q. What do you know about the whole action?

A. I don't know anything about this action, except that it
has taken place.


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