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When Hitler, Goebbels and other Nazis spoke of the BIG LIE technique, they were
clearly NOT advocating it or recommending it to others, but were instead
warning about the JEWISH use of the BIG LIE, including false atrocity
propaganda against Germany in BOTH World Wars!

Thus the often-repeated, widely-believed story that the Nazis advocated the BIG
LIE is a poignant example of the BIG LIE itself!  How VERY ironic!  The lie
returns to strike the liars.  "Truth crushed to Earth shall rise again."

It appears that Milton Kleim, Jr. is yet another victim of this Jewish BIG LIE
technique.  I post this to expose the liars who are attempting to use this BIG
LIE technique against him.

Following is an excerpt from THEFRAUD.TXT, a file available from Banished CPU's
FTP Mail Server.  Pay particular attention to the latter portion of the first


THE ZUNDEL TRIALS.  Ernst Zundel is a German-Canadian spokesman against the
hate-campaign Jews have waged against Germans for 70 years.  In 1983, Sabina
Citron, a Jewish activist, agreed to debate Zundel on live Canadian
television.  Jews rarely debate the Holocaust because it is so easily
discredited, but Citron would not be restrained.  She began by attacking
Zundel's character, claiming he had a criminal record in Germany.  The
moderator called the German Consul in the middle of the program, and he
stated, on-the-air, that this was not true.  Citron next attempted to smear
Adolf Hitler by repeating the Jewish "BIG LIE" story, that Hitler, in his
book _Mein Kampf_, advocated lying to the people.  (The "BIG LIE" principle
is that ordinary folk, only used to small lies, may more easily fall victim
to a big lie that is often repeated.)  Zundel proceeded to read Hitler's
words verbatim from _Mein Kampf_ which actually state that this "BIG LIE"
technique is a frequent tool of the Jews.  Never does Hitler advocate this
policy for himself or other Aryans.  (_Mein Kampf_, Murphy translation, p
134, Manheim translation, p 231-2)  As Citron's diatribe continued, the
Holocaust story itself increasingly seemed to fit the "BIG LIE" pattern.

Having discredited herself instead of Zundel, Citron and her followers
decided to sue Zundel to keep him quiet.  They had the Canadian government
prosecute him for "spreading false news" and "defaming the Jews" by denying
the Holocaust.  No mention was made that the Holocaust story had defamed
Germans for fifty years and qualifies as history's most vicious hate-crime.
Pro-Jewish Judge Hugh Locke was to preside.  Locke was so biased he would
not allow Allied aerial photos of Auschwitz in Zundel's defense, but did
allow the prosecution to show Hollywood anti-German propaganda films.
Locke's anti-German hostility resulted in a retrial, which produced
devastating evidence against the Holocaust and was eventually settled in
Zundel's favor by the Canadian Supreme Court.


-Dan Gannon

From oneb!!utcsri!utnut!!uunet!world!bzs Wed Feb 16 13:22:07 PST 1994
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From: (Barry Shein)
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Well, I typed in what I believe is the text Gannon was referring to
and it is appended at the bottom of this note. For my efforts, a few

Basically, and unusually, Gannon described the passage accurately
although his conclusions as usual are remarkably twisted. Gannon
claims quite simply that this section is some sort of proof that it
was not Hitler et al but rather The Jews who invented the "big lie"

Well, who knows what that means? All this says is that Hitler accused
the Jews of this behavior, but it certainly offers no evidence as to
why Hitler believed this nor dissuads one that he merely invented the
idea himself and, sensing its evility, attributed it to the Jews as he
does just about everything else on earth he does not like, from
syphillis to WWI to raping Aryan women (or importing blacks to do this
for them) as a part of their attempt to mongrelize his race.

If I were to venture an analysis I would say as with most brilliant
madmen this passage is actually quite interesting and telling.

I suspect that Hitler did invent this idea of the big lie right here
as we read his words, so successfully used later when he rose to
power. It's a virtual blueprint of what came to be, but sensing its
moral corruption he attributes it to Jews who throughout the book act
like his inner evil twin self always plotting, manipulating, capable
of great and inconceivable acts by their towering amorality and
self-interest. There are no Jews in Mein Kampf really, what is here is
a fascinating struggle between a lunatic's need for personal
absolution and moral integrity while struggling life and death with
his voracious and megalomaniacal lust which knows no bounds. To this
other inner self Hitler assigns the word "Jew", truly amazing stuff.

Well, the text:

pp 231-232, Robert Manheim translation, Houghton-Miflin, ISBN

It required the whole bottomless falsehood of the Jews and their
Marxist fighting organization to lay the blame for the collapse on
that very man who alone, with superhuman energy and will power, tried
to prevent the catastrophe he foresaw and save the nation from its
time of deepest humiliation and disgrace. By branding Ludendorff as
guilty for the loss of the World War, they took the weapon of moral
right from the one dangerous accuser who could have risen against the
traitors to the fatherland. In this they proceeded on the sound
principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor
of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very
bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously
and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive
simplicity of their minds, they more easily fall a victim to a big lie
than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but
would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will
never enter their heads, and they will not be able to believe in the
possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous
misrepresentation in others; yes, even when enlightened on the
subject, they will long doubt and waver, and continue to accept at
least one of these causes as true. Therefore, something of even the
most insolent lie will always remain and stick -- a fact which all the
great lie-virtual and lying-clubs in this world know only too well and
also make the most treacherous use of.

  The foremost connoisseurs of this truth regarding the possibilities
in the use of falsehood and slander have always been the Jews; for
after all, their whole existence is based on one single great lie, to
wit, that they are a religious community while actually they are a
race -- and what a race! One of the greatest minds of humanity has
nailed them forever as such in an eternally correct phrase of
fundamental truth: he called them 'the great masters of the lie.' And
anyone whos does not recognize this or does not want to believe it
will never in this world be able to help the truth to victory.

        -Barry Shein

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> Zundel proceeded to read Hitler's words verbatim from 
> _Mein Kampf_ which actually state that this "BIG LIE"
> technique is a frequent tool of the Jews.  Never does 
> Hitler advocate this policy for himself or other Aryans.  
> (_Mein Kampf_, Murphy translation, p 134, 
> Manheim translation, p 231-2)  

     Yes, your Adolph Hitler does accuse the Jews of 
using the "big lie" in _Mein Kampf_.  But I challenge the
doctrine that your Hitler did not use it himself.  
I challenge the doctrine that Hitler did not advocate 
this doctrine for himself or his followers.  In this 
post, I will refer to the Manheim edition of 
_Mein Kampf_.  I point to Chapter Six 
(pp 176-186 in the Manheim edition.)
     In page 177, your Hitler says that _propaganda_
is a means to an end.  Now, let us get into the
Newspeak that Hitler uses in _Mein Kampf_.  Your
Hitler refers to his own communications as 
propaganda; he refers to communications from
Jews as lies.  This is a nice technique often used
by Hitler's disciples in the "Christian" Right.
     In page 179, your Hitler says that 
(lies/propaganda) should be directed "always and
exclusively to the masses."  Your Hitler expands on
this.  By addressing communications to the masses,
your Hitler does not mean addressing the concerns of
poor working people as would the Marxists your Hitler
hated.  He means to appeal to the most base emotions.
     In page 180, your Hitler writes:  "The receptivity
of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is
small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.
In consequence of these facts, all effective 
propaganda must be limited to a very few points
and must harp on these in slogans until the last
member of the public understands what you want him
to understand by your slogan."  In other words,
your Hitler openly bragged about using the 
Big Lie and exhorted his followers to do the same.
     It is hard for me to read _Mein Kampf_.  It is
a book of demented horror.  I have too many Jewish
friends who I love (agape-love) to take any enjoyment
in even looking at it.  It is filled with hate against
Jews that is beyond rational description.  However,
I recommend a look at it for anyone studying the
history involved.  To me, _Mein Kampf_ alone would
prove the Holocaust really happened.

     Bill Scarborough

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