Path: hub.org!hub.org!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!line02.ping.DE!not-for-mail From: kolthoff@gmx.net (Albrecht Kolthoff) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: [NEWS] Doug Collins appeals human rights decision Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:53:56 +0200 Organization: more or less Message-ID:References: <37168509.2960848@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: line02.ping.de (195.37.122.131) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Access: 16 [3779] X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 923702424 17516 (none) 195.37.122.131 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes X-Spammmers: Wir muessen leider draussen bleiben X-PGP-Key: Available at any key server X-Mail-Copies: No Lines: 43 Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:431186 Fergus McClelland wrote: >dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote: > >>But, do not forget: "revisionists" always claim that >>they support free speech... >> > >Speaking of support for free speech: What is your opinion of the >arrest in Germany of Frederick Toben for the contents of his website >in Australia? What's your evidence that Fredrick Töben was arrested for the contents of his website in Australia? As far as I know, Mr Töben was arrested in Mannheim, Germany, because he wanted to be arrested there. >From Töben's travel diary: "I have no intention of breaking German law but I do want to talk to judges, prosecutors and others about the ban, I want to challenge the authorities there on the freedom of speech issue," Dr. Töben said. [...] He has an appointment to see one German judge on April 9 and hopes to meet others. [...] ...Next missive from Germany....wish me luck. http://www.adam.com.au/fredadin/travel_diary.html Note that he wanted to "challenge the authorities". And note also, that according to Töbens "travel diary", especially his entry from Friday, 26th March 1999 (see URL above) he made up a quarrel with a court in Berlin. Mr. Toben definitely wasn't arrested out of the blue. Seems to me he was seeking to be a martyr for whatever reason or goal. -- Hasta la vista Albrecht Kolthoff Dortmund, Germany
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