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Tom Moran graciously advises us that:

>There was no investigation at Belzec. There is nothing on the
>Holocaust circuit to show it ever took place.

Please be advised:


"* The most significant and unexpected facts to emerge as a result
of the 1997-98 investigations are the large number of mass graves
discovered (33), and the large number of indications of camp
structures of various sizes (65) scattered throughout the area of
the former extermination camp, and the deep cellars beneath some
of the buildings. Several of the camp structures correspond
approximately in position with buildings shown on

And also this series of photographs taken at the Belzec site recently which
show several markers left by the archeological excavations that you say never

This was very easy to find simply by putting[Belzec + survey] into dogpile I
came up with a lot of hits but will give you some ofthe best links
took me about 25 seconds to find it.

THis site includes death tolls for Belzec that come from the German Institute
for Justice - not a Jewish site by the way 


And I think I will include the full text of this news statement from Nando
times news found at

Please note the byline at  the bottom is from Reuters - is this {in your
torutred imagination} also a jewish inspired news service, Mr. Moran?

"Archeologists unearth new secrets of Holocaust 

Copyright  1998
Copyright  1998 Reuters News Service 

WASHINGTON (July 21, 1998 10:52 a.m. EDT - A team of
archeologists excavating the neglected site of a Nazi extermination camp in
Poland are uncovering new secrets from the Holocaust.

They are conducting an unprecedented survey of the Belzec camp in eastern
Poland where at least 600,000 Jews were murdered in 1942 and 1943.

Under an agreement between the Polish government and the United States
Holocaust Museum in Washington, a new memorial is due to be erected at the site
next year to replace a crumbling sculpture placed there by the former Polish
Communist authorities that Jewish visitors found objectionable.

The archeological survey conducted last October and between April and June of
this year was headed by Andrzej Kola, director of the Underwater Archeological
Department at the University of Torun, and Mieczyslaw Gora, senior curator of
the Museum of Archeology and Ethnology in Lodz.

Holocaust scholars have hailed it as an important step forward in the study of
the Nazis' murder of 6 million Jews during the Second World War.

"This was the first archeological survey on this scale done systematically on a
grid system and we have learned many new things," said Jacek Nowakowski,
associate director of the Holocaust Museum, coordinating the project from the
U.S. side.

Michael Tregenza, a British historian assisting the survey, said the team
drilled 1,600 bore holes at 15-foot intervals, collected soil samples for
laboratory analysis and excavated selected sites to a depth of up to 18 feet .

One of six Nazi extermination camps

Belzec was one of six extermination camps erected by the Nazis and the first to
use gas chambers. The other five were Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek,
Auschwitz-Birkenau and Chelmno.

Relatively little is known about Belzec because only five Jews who passed
through survived, none of whom is alive today. Some testimony emerged from a
trial of Nazi guards in Germany in the early 1960s but most of those
responsible for the horrors there were never identified or brought to justice.

But one of the most vivid testimonies from the Holocaust relates to Belzec. It
was left by SS Lt. Kurt Gerstein who visited the camp in August 1942 and
witnessed the arrival of a transport of 6,700 Jews, of whom 1,450 were already
dead after several days crammed in cattle cars without food or water.

Gerstein saw the Jews pushed into two gas chambers by SS men wielding whips. A
5-year-old girl dropped a necklace and a 3-year-old boy picked it up as they
passed into the chamber, where victims were crammed in so tightly they could
not move. Then the door swung shut.

He later told how he stood outside with a stopwatch and timed how long it took
for people to die. He described how for three hours the diesel engine that was
supposed to pump deadly carbon monoxide into the chamber would not work.
Finally, it stuttered to life.

"Up till then people were still alive in the chamber. Another 25 minutes went
by. True, many were now dead. After 28 minutes only a few were still alive. At
least, after 32 minutes, everyone was dead like pillars of basalt, still erect,
not having any place to fall," Gerstein testified.

Families still holding hands in death

"One could tell families even in death. They were still holding hands,
stiffened in death so that it was difficult to tear them apart to clear the
chamber for the next load."

On his way back to Germany, Gerstein met a Swedish diplomat on a train and
poured out the whole story, crying and smoking incessantly. The diplomat filed
a report for his embassy but it was never acted on.

Gerstein also told a Protestant bishop and the papal nuncio in Berlin what he
had seen. Both ignored him. After the war he was captured by the French and,
after giving them an account of what he had seen, committed suicide in July

There were no crematories at Belzec so victims were dumped in anti-tank
ditches. Toward the end of the war, when it was clear Germany was headed for
defeat, the Nazis brought in squads of Jewish prisoners to destroy the
evidence. Bodies were crushed and burned and camp structures were torn down.

But the archeological survey shows that the evidence of the genocide still lies
buries just below the surface. According to a report by Robin O'Neill, a
British scholar who took part in the survey, the team located 33 mass graves.

"The largest mass graves ... contained unburned human remains (parts and pieces
of skulls with hair and skin attached). The bottom layer of the graves
consisted of several inches thick of black human fat. One grave contained
uncrushed human bones so closely packed that the drill could not penetrate,"
O'Neill wrote.

Tregenza estimated that some 15,000 unburned corpses still lie in the earth of
Belzec. Nowakowski believes some of the unburned bodies discovered this year
were probably the remains of the Jews brought to the site to burn the victims'

Many Jews employed in burning bodies

"The fact that there were many more people employed in burning the bodies than
we thought suggests they had many more bodies to burn. We may have to revise
upward the estimate of the number who died at Belzec and that only increases
the huge significance of the site," he said.

One of the graves resembles the execution pit described by death camp staff at
their trial where old and sick victims who were too infirm to go through the
extermination process unaided were dispatched with a bullet to the back of the

The team also unearthed various other items including the lid of a silver
cigarette case bearing the inscription "Max Munk" and an address in Vienna.

Tregenza said the excavations have confirmed that two railway sidings existed
within the camp. The team was able to date the different-sized graves
tentatively by matching them to information about the arrival of different

The largest, 210 by 60 feet, apparently were dug to accommodate the victims of
the large transports, carrying between 150,000 and 180,000 people, which
arrived almost daily during the peak period of the gassing operation in August
and September of 1942.

The remains of barracks, foundations of the camp generator and living quarters
of the Ukrainian guard unit were also found but many questions remain,
including the exact location of the main gate and the precise dimensions of the

Communists built pathways atop mass graves

"The most disturbing fact, confirmed by the recent investigations, is that in
the early 1960s, the Communist authorities laid out the area of remembrance and
erected monuments without any regard for the original layout of the death
camp," Tregenza wrote in his report.

"The monuments and pathways were built on top of mass graves. The area of the
present fenced-in site was also considerably reduced in size. Belzec is a prime
example of the Communist falsification of history," he wrote.

Jewish visitors had complained for years that the site was neglected, overgrown
with weeds and strewn with garbage. They also said the memorial was
inappropriate and falling apart.

The Polish government and the Holocaust Museum quietly signed an agreement last
year to build a new memorial and Polish Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek confirmed
during a recent visit to Washington that construction would begin next year.

"Construction will begin in the near future. Archeological work is going on at
that site and new discoveries are being made systematically," Buzek told

But building a new memorial may not solve the problem. Tregenza reported that
what he called "anti-Semitic elements" in the village of Belzec had disrupted
the survey by scattering human remains around and partially demolishing the
exposed brick and concrete cellar that had been uncovered.

"Certain anti-Semitic members of the local population have already informed me
that 'a Jewish museum in Belzec will not last long,"' Tregenza said in his

By ALAN ELSNER, Reuters"

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