From Art@Arthurian.com Fri Dec 12 15:37:56 EST 2008 Article: 1966130 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at. From: Frank Arthur Cc: mail2news@bananasplit.info Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,ok.general,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT-Back to Prison FOR LIFE? Message-ID: <9ddf37cc588ef8d06f3a80b01d84848d@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:32:24 -0700 (MST) X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@bananasplit.info Organization: Bananasplit - Mail2News Bytes: 6181 Lines: 145 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2434363 ok.general:141829 soc.culture.jewish:2018697 alt.revisionism:1966130 Joe Bruno rearranged his few remaining neurons and wrote: Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT - Now Back to Prison FOR LIFE? STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOTS COMPLIMENTS OKLAHOMA STATE PRISON It seems that felon Steve Horn did not learn his lesson in jail earlier this year! His prison Booking Mug Shot: http://fourthreichisrael.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/booking2.jpg Now authorities are working on so many charges, that he may never get out of prison, under the "3 STRIKES LAW". OKLAHOMA PARDON & PAROLE BOARD Terry Jenks, Director First National Center 120 N. Robinson Ave., Suite 900W Oklahoma City, OK 73102 Phone: (405) 602-5863 is working together with: FBI Special Agent In Charge [Oklahoma]: Michael B. Ward, ADA SAM CHAVERS together with RCMP officers across Canada and Special Prosecutors from RICO, all working on so many new charges, including: inter-state use of telecommunications to commit felonies, such as: Count # 1. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 issuing threats Count # 2. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 Count # 3. Count as Filed: TELE, MAKING A HARASSING TELEPHONE CALL , in violation of 21 O.S.1172 threatening murder Breach of Probation Orders distributing kiddie porn plus many additional criminal charges. Guess Stevie will be entertaining the buck nigras in the Big House for the rest of his life? Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT - Now Back to Prison FOR LIFE? Wednesday 19 March 2008 was when Steve Horn was to get sentenced! He asked for an adjournment to 2nd April, to try and plea bargain for a lesser sentence! On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:47:44 GMT, "Riffyprime(oo)" wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:32:16 -0500, Crime Watch >< CrimeWatch@SayNo2CriminalThugs.net> wrote: >>On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:26 GMT, < u08af4tuurq52h9uqka9ga9eab8ftlbee1@4ax.com>, >>"Riffyprime(oo)" wrote: >>>That book was a little too long/boring for me to bother with. However, >>>it appeared to star the convicted criminal Steven Craig Horn, so I am >>>sure it will be a best-seller ! >>Here is the publicity photo which is in wide circulation. >> http://i37.tinypic.com/2a7bn92.jpg >Haha fuck. He doesn't look too pleased with his attorney in that pic. What everyone really wants to know about your jail time: 1) What meds did Dr. Randhawa Psychiatrist prescribe for you? 2) What were you doing so the sheriff had to summon a shrink in the first place? 3) How long was your temporary commitment? 4) Were you put in a padded cell? 5) Were you put in a strait jacket? 6) Why were you taken to Deaconess Hospital on June 23, 2008? Did a fellow inmate work you over? 7) In your police mug shot why is your right eye larger that your left eye? Did the Spencer Police use their night sticks on you? 8) Why do you have pictures of young girls on your computer? 9) Do you know it is a federal crime for people with mental disorders to own and possess firearms? 10) Do you know it is a federal crime to lie on your BATF/FBI background check when you purchase firearms and not mention you have a record of mental illness? 11) How long do you expect to keep your arsenal and stay out of jail when we contact the FBI/BATF and advise them they have another Timothy McVeigh type loose in OKC? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net or Greg Carr or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe all of us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Fri Dec 12 15:37:56 EST 2008 Article: 1966136 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . From: Frank Arthur Cc: mail2news@bananasplit.info Newsgroups: ok.general,soc.culture.usa,alt.revisionism,alt.homosexual Subject: STEVE HORN[Caduceus] FAMILY - ALL CRIMINALS! Message-ID: <42f1eac1f252cf2d18f2a9385441f01a@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:55:18 -0700 (MST) X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@bananasplit.info Organization: Bananasplit - Mail2News Bytes: 23598 Lines: 721 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com ok.general:141830 soc.culture.usa:2434373 alt.revisionism:1966136 alt.homosexual:344288 Caduceus 'family tree' is full of so many convicted criminals On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:57:24 +0000 (UTC), , Anonymous wrote: CRIMINALS RUN RAMPANT IN THE HORN FAMILY. Steven Craig Horn aka KCOM aka Caduceus 1836 NW 11th St Oklahoma City, OK 73106 (405) 524-0576 shorn@spamcop.net kcom@breakthru.com kcom@hushmail.com kcom@fusemail.com It is no wonder Steve Horn is a criminal seeing how his brother is a convicted criminal himself. It is no wonder Steve's mind is demented and ill because he most likely partook of his criminal brother's goods. More details on Steve's criminal brother Alfred Lee and Steve's criminal nephew Alfred Lee Jr and as a bonus Steve "Caduceus" Horn's other brother [David] is also an ex-con. Seems the Horn clan is just another collection of "po white trash." http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted= true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=75034&db=Appellate IN THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA - ALFRED LEE HORN, Appellant, v. State Of Oklahoma, Appellee. No. F-2000-335 (Felony) Filed: 03/20/2000 Closed: 07/25/2001 Appealed from: COAL County District Court Parties ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HORN, ALFRED LEE , Appellant STATE OF OKLAHOMA , Appellee Attorneys ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Attorney Represented Parties Attorney General Of Oklahoma(Bar # ) 313 NE 21st Street ******Interagency Mail***** , STATE OF OKLAHOMA Burgess, Lowell Rayford(Bar # 1323) PO BOX 1116 ANTLERS, OK 74523 Coal County District Attorney(Bar # ) 4 N. MAIN COALGATE, OK 74538 Danner, Cindy Brown(Bar # 12583) P. O. BOX 926 NORMAN, OK 73070 HORN ALFRED LEE McCarty, Lisbeth Lynn(Bar # 10896) P. O. BOX 926 NORMAN, OK 73070 Events ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Event Party Docket Reporter Lower Court Counts and Other Information ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Count Case Number Statute Crime Special Sentence Judge Reporter - CF-1999-45 - delivery of methamphetamine 30 years and 10,000.00 fine consecutive with others (1-3) Gabbard, II, Doug Soukup, Debra A. 4 - - trafficking 40 years and 25,000.00 fine consecutive with others Adams, Jo Dean E. 5 - - cultivation of marijuana 30 years and 10,000.00 fine consecutive with others --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End of Transmission. Current status of Caduceus' brother Alfred Lee Horn: DOC Number 0000369589 Name HORN,ALFRED LEE Date of Birth Oct 13 1955 Gender M Race WHITE Hair Color BROWN Eye Color BROWN Height (feet)5 Height (inches) 9 Weight 213 Last Move Date Dec 29 2006 Facility MACK ALFORD CORRECTIONAL CENTER County of Address COAL City of Address LEHIGH State of Address OK Zip Code 74556 DOC Number 0000369589 Name HORN,ALFRED LEE Sentences: DOC Number 0000369589 Statute Code 63-2-401 Statute Code Description DIST OF CDS/POSS W/INTENT Issuing Agency COAL COUNTY COURT Start Date Mar 30 2000 CRF Number 99-45 Status ACTIVE [IOW Alfred Lee Horn is still in prison] Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000030.00 DOC Number 0000369589 Statute Code 63-2-415 Statute Code Description TRAFFICKING IN ILLEGAL DRUGS Issuing Agency COAL COUNTY COURT Start Date Mar 30 2000 CRF Number 99-45 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000040.00 DOC Number 0000369589 Statute Code 63-2-509 Statute Code Description CULTIVATION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Issuing Agency COAL COUNTY COURT Start Date Mar 30 2000 CRF Number 99-45 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000030.00 -------------------------------------- Remember everyone Alfred Lee Horn's sentences were not to be served simultaneously or con-currently but Alfred Lee Horn's three sentences were to be served consecutively. IOW 100 years. Repeated from above: - CF-1999-45 - delivery of methamphetamine 30 years and 10,000.00 fine consecutive with others 4 - - trafficking 40 years and 25,000.00 fine consecutive with others 5 - - cultivation of marijuana 30 years and 10,000.00 fine consecutive with others Now for Alfred Lee Horn Jr [Steve "Caduceus" Horn's nephew] and his criminal record: DOC Number 0000494575 Name HORN,ALFRED LEE JR Date of Birth Jun 9 1982 Gender M Race WHITE Hair Color BROWN Eye Color BLUE Build MEDIUM Height (feet) 5 Height (inches) 8 Weight 185 Last Move Date Dec 19 2006 Facility SOUTHEAST DISTRICT OFFICE County of Address COAL City of Address LEHIGH State of Address OK Zip Code 74556 Sentences DOC Number 0000494575 Statute Code 63-2-402 Statute Code Description POSS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Issuing Agency COAL COUNTY COURT Start Date Apr 24 2003 CRF Number 2003-13 Status SENTENCED TO P&P/CSD Sentence Type DEFERRED SENTENCE Incarcerated Term (years) Probation Term (years) 000000005.00 DOC Number 0000494575 Statute Code 63-2-402 Statute Code Description POSS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Issuing Agency COAL COUNTY COURT Start Date Feb 14 2006 CRF Number 2003-13 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000005.00 Probation Term (years) [Looks like Alfred Lee Jr didn't learn a thing while on probation so he repeated his stupidity and was incarcerated] Now for Steve "Caduceus" Horn's other miscreant brother David who is a violentlow life just like "Caduceus": DOC Number 0000123383 Name HORN,DAVID WAYNE Date of Birth Dec 31 1962 Gender M Race WHITE Hair Color BLONDE Eye Color BLUE Build MEDIUM Height (feet)5 Height (inches) 8 Weight 150 Last Move Date Jun 5 2007 Facility OKLAHOMA STATE PENITENTIARY County of Address TULSA City of Address TULSA State of Address OK Zip Code 74115 Sentences DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 47-4-102 Statute Code Description UNAUTHORIZED USE OF A VEHICLE [IOW a car thief] Issuing Agency TULSA COUNTY COURT Start Date Sep 27 1989 CRF Number 89-3536 Status EXPIRED Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000002.00 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 21-1531 Statute Code Description FALSE PERSONATION Issuing Agency TULSA COUNTY COURT Start Date Aug 30 1991 CRF Number 90-4615 Status EXPIRED Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000001.00 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 21-443 Statute Code Description ESCAPE FROM CONFINEMENT Issuing Agency MUSKOGEE COUNTY COURT Start Date Feb 29 2000 CRF Number 90-215 Status EXPIRED Sentence Type SPLIT Incarcerated Term (years) 000000004.00 Probation Term (years) 000000006.00 DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 63-2-402 Statute Code Description POSS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Issuing Agency TULSA COUNTY COURT Start Date May 30 1995 CRF Number 95-1694 Status EXPIRED Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000007.00 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 47-11-902 Statute Code Description DUI - LIQUOR OR DRUGS/APCV Issuing Agency TULSA COUNTY COURT Start Date Feb 29 2000 CRF Number 2000-57 Status EXPIRED Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000001.50 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 21-1721 Statute Code Description TAPPING OIL/GAS TANK/PIPELINE Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date Sep 5 2002 CRF Number 2002-136 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000007.00 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 21-1721 Statute Code Description TAPPING OIL/GAS TANK/PIPELINE Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date Sep 5 2002 CRF Number 2002-136 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type PAROLE REVOCATION Incarcerated Term (years) 000000003.58 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 63-2-401.G Statute Code Description MANUFACTURE OF CDS Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date Sep 5 2002 CRF Number 2002-136 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type DETERMINATE Incarcerated Term (years) 000000007.00 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 63-2-401.G Statute Code Description MANUFACTURE OF CDS Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date Sep 5 2002 CRF Number 2002-136 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type PAROLE REVOCATION Incarcerated Term (years) 000000003.58 Probation Term (years) DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 63-2-402 Statute Code Description POSS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date Oct 29 2004 CRF Number 2002-136 Status DISCHARGED Sentence Type PAROLE Incarcerated Term (years) Probation Term (years) 000000003.56 [After going through all of the above shit for brains David Horn does the following]: DOC Number 0000123383 Statute Code 21-645 Statute Code Description ASSAULT &/OR BATTERY W/DANGEROUS WEAPON Issuing Agency OSAGE COUNTY COURT Start Date May 25 2007 CRF Number 2006-220 Status ACTIVE Sentence Type SUSPENDED Incarcerated Term (years) Probation Term (years) 000000002.00 David Horn was out of jail long enough to sign for a summons being served on Steven "Caduceus" Horn: PROOF OF SERVICE ON SUMMONS SERVED ON STEVEN HORN BY LEAVING COPY W/DAVID HORN, BROTHER ON 4/17/06 AT HIS USUAL PLACE OF RESIDENCE. Document Available (#1002939474) http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/getimage.tif?submitted=true&casem asterid=2029891&db=OKLAHOMA&barcode=1002939474 David is probably still living with father Alfred Harvie, mother Carolyn and his mutual fuck up brother Steven "Caduceus" Horn who is about to go to prison himself to keep up the tradition of the _Band of Brothers_. Brief review of Steven "Caduceus" Horn's mentally ill deeds [edited for brevity]: http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted= true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2133794&db=Oklahoma The information contained in this report is provided in compliance with the Oklahoma Open Records Act, 51 O.S. 24A.1. Use of this information is governed by this act, as well as other applicable state and federal laws. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IN THE DISTRICT COURT IN AND FOR OKLAHOMA COUNTY, OKLAHOMA STATE OF OKLAHOMA, Plaintiff, v. STEVEN CRAIG HORN, Defendant. No. CF-2007-864 (Criminal Felony) Filed: 02/13/2007 Judge: Elliott, Ray C. Parties ------------------------------------------------------------------------- HORN, STEVEN CRAIG , Defendant Spencer Police Department , ARRESTING AGENCY STATE OF OKLAHOMA , Plaintiff Attorneys ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attorney Represented Parties Gile, Merle(Bar # ) 120 N. ROBINSON STE 2900 OKC,, OK 73102 HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Events -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRETRIAL CONFERENCE(PTC) HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Ray C. Elliott Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 13:30 PM PRETRIAL CONFERENCE 1X(PTC) HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Ray C. Elliott Monday, January 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM JURY TRIAL (ISSUE)(JTI) HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Ray C. Elliott Counts --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Parties appear only under the counts with which they were charged. For complete sentence information, see the court minute on the docket. Count # 1. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 Date Of Offense: 10/08/2006 Party Name: Disposition Information: Defendant: HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Pending. Count # 2. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 Date Of Offense: 10/13/2006 Party Name: Disposition Information: Defendant: HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Pending. Count # 3. Count as Filed: TELE, MAKING A HARASSING TELEPHONE CALL , in violation of 21 O.S. 1172 Date Of Offense: 11/02/2006 Party Name: Disposition Information: Defendant: HORN, STEVEN CRAIG Pending. Docket --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Date Code Count Party Serial # Entry Date 01-10-2007 AF/SW - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 51701020 Aug 16 2007 10:05:47:137AM - $ 0.00 AFFIDAVIT AND RETURN OF SEARCH WARRANT/SW-7-11 Document Available at Court Clerk's Office --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-12-2007 WAI$ - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50178110 Feb 14 2007 10:38:21:340AM Realized $ 50.00 WARRANT OF ARREST ISSUED, JUDGE: RUSSELL HALL - BOND AMOUNT: $5,000.00 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-13-2007 TEXT 1 HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50164773 Feb 13 2007 9:03:55:877AM - $ 0.00 CRIMINAL FELONY INITIAL FILING. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-13-2007 INFORMATION 1 HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50178973 Feb 14 2007 11:19:59:480AM - $ 0.00 DEFENDANT STEVEN CRAIG HORN WAS CHARGED WITH COUNT #1, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HAR Document Available at Court Clerk's Office --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-13-2007 INFORMATION 2 HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50178974 Feb 14 2007 11:19:45:130AM - $ 0.00 DEFENDANT STEVEN CRAIG HORN WAS CHARGED WITH COUNT #2, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HAR --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-13-2007 INFORMATION 3 HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50178975 Feb 14 2007 11:19:45:130AM - $ 0.00 DEFENDANT STEVEN CRAIG HORN WAS CHARGED WITH COUNT #3, MAKING A HARASSING TELEPHONE CALL IN VIOLATION OF 21 O.S. 1172 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 02-13-2007 TEXT - 50164774 Feb 13 2007 9:03:55:887AM - $ 0.00 OCIS HAS AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED JUDGE ELLIOTT, RAY C. TO THIS CASE. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 03-15-2007 BO - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50433433 Mar 15 2007 2:46:26:013PM Realized $ 10.00 PROFESSIONAL BOND FOR HORN, STEVEN CRAIG POSTED BY WALKER, JEANNIE (PROFESSIONAL:ZIEGLER, VERNIE) (POWER NUMBER:CB5-32301 ), IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000.00, POSTED 02/15/2007($ 10.00) Document Available at Court Clerk's Office --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 03-15-2007 CTARRPL - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 50445674 Mar 16 2007 1:47:36:060PM - $ 0.00 HALL: DEFENDANT PRESENT, OUT OF CUSTODY AND REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL, MERLE GILE. ARRAIGNMENT HELD. DEFENDANT WAIVES READING OF THE INFORMATION AND FURTHER TIME TO PLEAD. DEFENDANT ENTERS A PLEA OF NOT GUILTY. PRELIMINARY HEARING CONFERENCE SET FOR 04/26/07 @ 1:30PM BEFORE JUDGE GREGORY RYAN/ BOND SET IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Report Generated by The Oklahoma Court Information System at December 11, 2007 0:39 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End of Transmission. HISTORY OF HORN'S CRIMINAL ACTS: http://www.mwcsun.com/local/local_story_050094629.html Published: February 19, 2007 09:46 am 40-gun cache Man arrested for alleged threats against woman's children By Eric Bradshaw, staff writer The Sunday Sun An Oklahoma City man accused of threatening to shoot a woman's children was arrested Thursday just after midnight at his home. Spencer Police filed charges Tuesday against Steven Craig Horn for allegedly making death threats against an area woman and her children by e-mail and for making a harassing phone call. Horn was charged with two counts of using a computer to put another person in fear of harm or death and one count of making harassing phone calls. According to court records, Horn allegedly wrote in one e-mail, "What you did between (a woman Horn claims is a former girlfriend) and I means that you can kiss your two sons good-bye. Remember I'm GOD. I decide who lives and who dies and your two boys die." In another, he is alleged to have written, "Remember I have a .45 automatic and can take your b.....d sons out." Spencer Det. Olan Boydston said he received information from Oklahoma City Police that Horn called them on July 7 threatening to kill himself and requesting to be put in protective custody. He had been self-medicating with Valium and alcohol, Boydston reported. Boydston's report said Oklahoma City Police confiscated 21 firearms from Horn at the time, but later returned them. They had been investigating a threatening call Horn allegedly made to Garland, Texas Police. Horn allegedly threatened to "shoot the judge and the pig cop that gave her (his former girlfriend) a ticket." Boydston received an anonymous call traced to Horn's phone after he interviewed the man, the police report said. "I am God, and I also still have my Ruger P-90 and it has a bullet with your name on it," Horn reportedly told him. A cache of 40 firearms was confiscated from Horn's home along with a computer with images of young girls. [Notice Steve "Caduceus" Horn had pictures of young girls on his computer thus indicating "Caduceus" is a potential pedophile/child molester] No information was given on possible charges related to the images. [Those images must have been pretty explicit for that statement to be made] Horn's father allegedly said his son was mentally unstable and a potential danger to himself and others. [Steve's own father admits Steve is a twisted person IOW] Boydston's investigation: The report listed a number of dates associated with the case. The timeline of events and Boydston's investigation is as follows: Sept. 1, 2005 - a threatening call made to the Garland, Texas police station Dec. 15, 2005 - Oklahoma City Det. Ron Bradford and an inspector interview Bradford's "former girlfriend" who said he bought a rifle from Wal-mart while on a date Dec. 21, 2005 - Oklahoma City Police confiscate 21 firearms, talk to suspect; eventually firearms are returned and no charges filed Oct. 30, 2006 - Boydston receives the case. He interviews the victim and takes a look at the e-mails and the profile of the suspect on an Internet dating Web site. Nov. 2, 2006 - Boydston contacts the OU Police Department's Health Services Division and gets them to search their database; he identifies the suspect, interviews him and later receives a phone call. Nov. 3, 2006 - Boydston meets with Judge Russell Hall at 10 a.m. and obtains a warrant for Horn's arrest. At 4 p.m. Boydston meets with the Will Rogers Division of the Oklahoma City Police Department and receives information about their previous investigation of Horn. Tuesday - charges filed by Spencer Police Thursday - Oklahoma City Police arrest Horn at his home ************************************************************************** *********** http://www.newsok.com/article/3014189/ Sat February 17, 2007 City man faces charges of using computer to threaten, harass By Ann Kelley Staff Writer SPENCER - An Oklahoma City man is charged with threatening to kill a woman and a Spencer police officer who was investigating the woman's claims that the man was stalking her. Steven Craig Horn, 41, was charged Wednesday in Oklahoma County District Court with two felony counts of using a computer to put another person in fear of death, and a misdemeanor charge of making harassing telephone calls. Horn was arrested Nov. 9 after police served a search warrant at his home and confiscated 40 firearms, computers and computer disks, according to court records. According to court records, Hamm was investigating a complaint from Melanie Gay Jenkins of Spencer, who gave police two threatening e-mails >from Horn. Horn remains free on $5,000 bail. Prison photo of Steve Horn: http://fourthreichisrael.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/booking.jpg ************************************************************************** ************ updates forthcoming For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net, or Ariadne or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Fri Dec 12 15:37:57 EST 2008 Article: 1966138 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . From: Frank Arthur Cc: mail2news@bananasplit.info Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,ok.general,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT-Back to Prison FOR LIFE? Message-ID: <9febaba763350fd87664f88555dd3fc3@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:00:20 -0700 (MST) X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@bananasplit.info Organization: Bananasplit - Mail2News Bytes: 6180 Lines: 145 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2434374 ok.general:141831 soc.culture.jewish:2018699 alt.revisionism:1966138 Joe Bruno rearranged his few remaining neurons and wrote: Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT - Now Back to Prison FOR LIFE? STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOTS COMPLIMENTS OKLAHOMA STATE PRISON It seems that felon Steve Horn did not learn his lesson in jail earlier this year! His prison Booking Mug Shot: http://fourthreichisrael.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/booking.jpg Now authorities are working on so many charges, that he may never get out of prison, under the "3 STRIKES LAW". OKLAHOMA PARDON & PAROLE BOARD Terry Jenks, Director First National Center 120 N. Robinson Ave., Suite 900W Oklahoma City, OK 73102 Phone: (405) 602-5863 is working together with: FBI Special Agent In Charge [Oklahoma]: Michael B. Ward, ADA SAM CHAVERS together with RCMP officers across Canada and Special Prosecutors from RICO, all working on so many new charges, including: inter-state use of telecommunications to commit felonies, such as: Count # 1. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 issuing threats Count # 2. Count as Filed: COMPU, USING A COMPUTER, COMPUTER NETWORK, OR COMPUTER SYSTEM TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN FEAR OF PHYSICAL HARM OR DEATH , in violation of 21 O.S. 1951-1981 Count # 3. Count as Filed: TELE, MAKING A HARASSING TELEPHONE CALL , in violation of 21 O.S.1172 threatening murder Breach of Probation Orders distributing kiddie porn plus many additional criminal charges. Guess Stevie will be entertaining the buck nigras in the Big House for the rest of his life? Convict STEVE HORN'S POLICE MUG SHOT - Now Back to Prison FOR LIFE? Wednesday 19 March 2008 was when Steve Horn was to get sentenced! He asked for an adjournment to 2nd April, to try and plea bargain for a lesser sentence! On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:47:44 GMT, "Riffyprime(oo)" wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:32:16 -0500, Crime Watch >< CrimeWatch@SayNo2CriminalThugs.net> wrote: >>On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:26 GMT, < u08af4tuurq52h9uqka9ga9eab8ftlbee1@4ax.com>, >>"Riffyprime(oo)" wrote: >>>That book was a little too long/boring for me to bother with. However, >>>it appeared to star the convicted criminal Steven Craig Horn, so I am >>>sure it will be a best-seller ! >>Here is the publicity photo which is in wide circulation. >> http://i37.tinypic.com/2a7bn92.jpg >Haha fuck. He doesn't look too pleased with his attorney in that pic. What everyone really wants to know about your jail time: 1) What meds did Dr. Randhawa Psychiatrist prescribe for you? 2) What were you doing so the sheriff had to summon a shrink in the first place? 3) How long was your temporary commitment? 4) Were you put in a padded cell? 5) Were you put in a strait jacket? 6) Why were you taken to Deaconess Hospital on June 23, 2008? Did a fellow inmate work you over? 7) In your police mug shot why is your right eye larger that your left eye? Did the Spencer Police use their night sticks on you? 8) Why do you have pictures of young girls on your computer? 9) Do you know it is a federal crime for people with mental disorders to own and possess firearms? 10) Do you know it is a federal crime to lie on your BATF/FBI background check when you purchase firearms and not mention you have a record of mental illness? 11) How long do you expect to keep your arsenal and stay out of jail when we contact the FBI/BATF and advise them they have another Timothy McVeigh type loose in OKC? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net or Greg Carr or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe all of us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Fri Dec 12 15:39:52 EST 2008 Article: 625794 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,can.general,soc.culture.europe Subject: NO GROSVENOR Is Posting! Frank Arthur=Grosvenor= Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:46:45 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 171 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d0PxC9pAZH18xKrSPOb/Jw.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:46:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.7.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AeAVXI/uDTc3m1rBBUguy2IjQpM= Bytes: 6849 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2435698 can.general:352667 soc.culture.europe:625794 There Is NO GROSVENOR Posting! Only Frank Arthur=Grosvenor= Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits NO GROSVENOR person is posting, just me posting forgeries as Grosvenor! As Frank Arthur I use aliases, including: Grosvenor= Ken McVay=Debora Sharavi or whoever I fancy. I do Invite Calls & Visits,especially late nights. Yes people, I really am the foul misbegotten pestilence known by many as Frank Arthur - often using the alias Grosvenor - and sometimes alias Ken McVay or even Dr.Lippshitz. No wonder people think of me, Frank Arthur as real foul subhuman dreck! And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: Feel free to call, or even visit me; FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315 As Frank Arthur I sometimes post via Bellsouth Internet Group. As the fraud Grosvenor and similar aliases [which is me] I post using remailers, anonymously, to confuse people. Sometimes as Grosvenor, or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein. I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need! I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet. I am the filthy fraud who changes names every few minutes, because I am truly certifiably insane. I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"! Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles" The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for many years, so I stole his name to annoy him, and also readers! There are no articles posted by Grosvenor, only by me! Many people believe that I am really faggot Ken McVay the disgusting pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my ZYD benefactors stopped financing all the BS and my one person web business. All entries below collated from various sources and are public domain. On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2 wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur" wrote: Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who changes names every 5 minutes. Quick send him money IF you are stupid! Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me] is just another common thief. Some are pickpockets. Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. As this human turd I steal names. Here are some of my aliases- Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh, Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13, George Firestone,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller, GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius, KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum. All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me. On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh wrote: >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur" wrote: >Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today? >Then a continuous list of faked names again. >Trust that idiot? >From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that >you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr? On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" wrote: The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me] I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup. I am either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly been posting to this, and other newsgroups!! The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor. He is known as Grosvomit from Canada There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur. The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray tab: Organization: BellSouth Internet Group There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art @ Arthurian.com, Feel free to call, or even visit me; FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom @ breakthru.com, or KenMcVay @ vex.net Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. Remove spaces in email addresses before/after @ AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage A Great source of ZYD-free news! From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:16 EST 2008 Article: 1972297 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel Subject: Re: jews make palestinians eat garbage Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:15:19 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 88 Message-ID: <4e11b634-efdb-4491-8f4e-24d51fed9577@n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> References: <6r6admFfln95U1@mid.individual.net> <9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <6r6inoFflu6oU1@mid.individual.net> <6r6kubFfv415U1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229858120 8921 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 11:15:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 4702 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972297 soc.culture.israel:2103279 On 21 Dec, 10:42, "Heinrich" wrote: > schreef in berichtnews:db8f99b0-c7e6-4113-aecd-e1eb= dc57ae31@n10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 21, 12:05 pm, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > > > > schreef in > > berichtnews:9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegrou= ps.com... > > On Dec 21, 9:43 am, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > "Impoverished Palestinians on the Gaza Strip are being forced to > > > scavenge > > > for food on rubbish dumps to survive as Israel's economic blockade ri= sks > > > causing irreversible damage, according to international observers. > > > > Figures released last week by the UN Relief and Works Agency reveal t= hat > > > the > > > economic blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza in July last year has had= a > > > devastating impact on the local population. Large numbers of > > > Palestinians > > > are unable to afford the high prices of food being smuggled through t= he > > > Hamas-controlled tunnels to the Strip from Egypt and last week were > > > confronted with the suspension of UN food and cash distribution as a > > > result > > > of the siege. > > > > The figures collected by the UN agency show that 51.8% - an > > > "unprecedentedly > > > high" number of Gaza's 1.5 million population - are now living below = the > > > poverty line. The agency announced last week that it had been forced = to > > > stop > > > distributing food rations to the 750,000 people in need and had also > > > suspended cash distributions to 94,000 of the most disadvantaged who > > > were > > > unable to afford the high prices being asked for smuggled food." > > > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...ip-middle-east > > > So what are their authorithies doing with All this money the recived > > from Israel ? and from the URWA?????? > > They shoot on cars that bring in food !!!! > > mirjam > > > i get the impression that you have no idea what is going on their. > > for your info it is not a matter of money but the major problem is to > > daily > > blocade by the jews preventing goods, medicines etc can be brought in i= nto > > gaza.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Azza people are shooting rockets at the Electricity Station that > provides part of their electricity. =A0Azza people are shooting at > Lorries that bring in food& medicine =A0to their side of the border and > blow it up and than complain they don`t have it !!!! > Since you don`t speak Arabic , nore Hebrew and are fed by > PROPAGANDA ,,, I am sure it isn`t paradise in Azza , but they should > stop Shooting at our civilians , let at least the Red Cross see Gilad > Shalit !!!And stop shooting at their own merchndice . =A0Ps they alaso > have a Border with Egypt !!!! that blockades their southern > border !!!!!! > mirjam > > > further one need not to be able to understand =A0arabic hebrew etc becaus= e > footage presentedby various tv stations daily shows the suffering by the > pal.in gaza. > The parts I have excised aren't true either, Gehaessiger Heinie, but - haven't you heard of Pallywood? Hezbollywood? From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:17 EST 2008 Article: 1972299 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel Subject: Re: jews make palestinians eat garbage Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:16:56 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 43 Message-ID: <252312af-5607-4c99-bea9-bb18263a27de@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com> References: <6r6admFfln95U1@mid.individual.net> <9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229858216 9133 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 11:16:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2922 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972299 soc.culture.israel:2103281 On 21 Dec, 09:26, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote: > On Dec 21, 9:43=A0am, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > > > > "Impoverished Palestinians on the Gaza Strip are being forced to scaven= ge > > for food on rubbish dumps to survive as Israel's economic blockade risk= s > > causing irreversible damage, according to international observers. > > > Figures released last week by the UN Relief and Works Agency reveal tha= t the > > economic blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza in July last year has had a > > devastating impact on the local population. Large numbers of Palestinia= ns > > are unable to afford the high prices of food being smuggled through the > > Hamas-controlled tunnels to the Strip from Egypt and last week were > > confronted with the suspension of UN food and cash distribution as a re= sult > > of the siege. > > > The figures collected by the UN agency show that 51.8% - an "unpreceden= tedly > > high" number of Gaza's 1.5 million population - are now living below th= e > > poverty line. The agency announced last week that it had been forced to= stop > > distributing food rations to the 750,000 people in need and had also > > suspended cash distributions to 94,000 of the most disadvantaged who we= re > > unable to afford the high prices being asked for smuggled food." > > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...ip-middle-east > > So what are their authorithies doing with All this money the recived > from Israel ? and from the URWA?????? > They shoot on cars that bring in food !!!! > mirjam Even the BBC dhimmis reported that. From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:17 EST 2008 Article: 1972307 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel Subject: British MPs lobby for Schalit's release Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:24:13 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 157 Message-ID: <37786b64-e468-4d1d-92c2-2e7cc33ec932@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com> References: <6r6admFfln95U1@mid.individual.net> <9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <6r6inoFflu6oU1@mid.individual.net> <6r6kubFfv415U1@mid.individual.net> <4e11b634-efdb-4491-8f4e-24d51fed9577@n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229862253 21163 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 12:24:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 7890 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972307 soc.culture.israel:2103298 On 21 Dec, 11:15, Ariadne wrote: > On 21 Dec, 10:42, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > > > > schreef in berichtnews:db8f99b0-c7e6-4113-aecd-e1= ebdc57ae31@n10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > > On Dec 21, 12:05 pm, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > schreef in > > > berichtnews:9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegr= oups.com... > > > On Dec 21, 9:43 am, "Heinrich" wrote: > > > > > "Impoverished Palestinians on the Gaza Strip are being forced to > > > > scavenge > > > > for food on rubbish dumps to survive as Israel's economic blockade = risks > > > > causing irreversible damage, according to international observers. > > > > > Figures released last week by the UN Relief and Works Agency reveal= that > > > > the > > > > economic blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza in July last year has h= ad a > > > > devastating impact on the local population. Large numbers of > > > > Palestinians > > > > are unable to afford the high prices of food being smuggled through= the > > > > Hamas-controlled tunnels to the Strip from Egypt and last week were > > > > confronted with the suspension of UN food and cash distribution as = a > > > > result > > > > of the siege. > > > > > The figures collected by the UN agency show that 51.8% - an > > > > "unprecedentedly > > > > high" number of Gaza's 1.5 million population - are now living belo= w the > > > > poverty line. The agency announced last week that it had been force= d to > > > > stop > > > > distributing food rations to the 750,000 people in need and had als= o > > > > suspended cash distributions to 94,000 of the most disadvantaged wh= o > > > > were > > > > unable to afford the high prices being asked for smuggled food." > > > > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...ip-middle-east > > > > So what are their authorithies doing with All this money the recived > > > from Israel ? and from the URWA?????? > > > They shoot on cars that bring in food !!!! > > > mirjam > > > > i get the impression that you have no idea what is going on their. > > > for your info it is not a matter of money but the major problem is to > > > daily > > > blocade by the jews preventing goods, medicines etc can be brought in= into > > > gaza.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Azza people are shooting rockets at the Electricity Station that > > provides part of their electricity. =A0Azza people are shooting at > > Lorries that bring in food& medicine =A0to their side of the border and > > blow it up and than complain they don`t have it !!!! > > Since you don`t speak Arabic , nore Hebrew and are fed by > > PROPAGANDA ,,, I am sure it isn`t paradise in Azza , but they should > > stop Shooting at our civilians , let at least the Red Cross see Gilad > > Shalit !!!And stop shooting at their own merchndice . =A0Ps they alaso > > have a Border with Egypt !!!! that blockades their southern > > border !!!!!! > > mirjam > > > further one need not to be able to understand =A0arabic hebrew etc beca= use > > footage presentedby various tv stations daily shows the suffering by th= e > > pal.in gaza. > > The parts I have excised aren't true either, > Gehaessiger Heinie, but - haven't you heard > of Pallywood? Hezbollywood British MPs lobby for Schalit's release Dec. 21, 2008 JONNY PAU Jerusalem Post correspondent London THE JERUSALEM POST A group of senior British parliamentarians met with representatives of the International Red Cross (IRC) in London last week to discuss the plight of kidnapped soldier Gilad Schalit and stressed that his release should not be dependent on the peace process. The meeting forms part of an initiative which will feature similar meetings between parliamentarians and the IRC around Europe. Leading the delegation was Conservative Party MP Alistair Burt, who launched the initiative at the European Friends of Israel conference in Paris last month. Also at the meeting was James Arbuthnot MP, chair of Conservative Friends of Israel; Andrew Gwynne MP, chair of Labor Friends of Israel and Liberal Democrat MP Sir Alan Beith. "We appreciated the opportunity to meet with the IRC director and welcome the assurance we were given that Gilad Schalit's case remains a very high priority for them," Burt said. "We understand the careful boundaries in which they must work but share the deep frustration that more has not yet been achieved." Burt noted that Gilad Schalit has been kept in captivity for over 900 days and that the meeting was designed to express concern and show their determination to pressure the Red Cross to gain visiting rights. He also noted the concern of the MPs that the human rights of Schalit and his family were continuing to be ignored. "In violation of international law, Hamas has not allowed the Red Cross to visit Gilad and ascertain his state of health," Gwynne said. "The anxiety that his parents and family must be going through is unimaginable. I urge the Red Cross to do all that it can to gain access to Gilad and report back on his treatment and condition." The MPs added that Schalit's fate should not be dependent on the peace process. "The Red Cross is respected worldwide for its neutrality and the importance of giving access to people detained in conflict. It is vital Gilad has access to its services immediately," Beith said. The Red Cross told the MPs that Schalit's case was a high priority for them. They said they were continuing to press Hamas to grant visiting rights but were continuing to be frustrated. The Red Cross officials said they were aware that this was a significant violation of international law. The Red Cross also asked the MPs to note the statement of the IRC head in Israel, Pierre Wettach, which said "The issue is continuously raised at high-level meetings with Hamas. We are pursuing dialogue with all those concerned, as we believe that is essential for achieving progress." This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=3D1228728270133&pagename=3DJPost= %2FJPArticle%2FShowFull Copyright 1995- 2008 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/ From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:18 EST 2008 Article: 1972419 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel Subject: Re: jews make palestinians eat garbage Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:20 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 48 Message-ID: <361a39ae-d054-4b51-8df9-0dcdeeeee74f@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> References: <6r6admFfln95U1@mid.individual.net> <9eafbe33-2d47-4fbd-8ebf-3af54106bb2a@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <6r6inoFflu6oU1@mid.individual.net> <6r6kubFfv415U1@mid.individual.net> <4e11b634-efdb-4491-8f4e-24d51fed9577@n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <6r71ehFfl7liU1@mid.individual.net> <116e22ff-d744-4989-a9f2-9114c1c10f6f@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <6r777iFfeenoU1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229891660 13096 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 20:34:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3133 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972419 soc.culture.israel:2103595 On 21 Dec, 15:55, "Heinrich" wrote: > schreef in berichtnews:116e22ff-d744-4989-a9f2-9114= c1c10f6f@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > >> The parts I have excised aren't true either, > >> Gehaessiger Heinie, but - haven't you heard > >> of Pallywood? Hezbollywood? > > >> since you are a jew you have a brain that works differently compaired = to > >> the > >> brains of other people so i cannot hold you responsable for what you > >> think. > >> needless to say that i disagree with you. as long as the mean and crue= l > >> jews > >> continue to act as a newly born ss unit the problemn will continue to > >> excist > >> and the poor humiliated palestinians will try to defend themseolves to > >> the > >> best of their ability.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Herr Heinrich , > > One doesn`t have to insult the reader/or listener , =A0when one writes/ > > talks about matters one is well knowlegeable about. > > The Hamas had all the opportunity to make Azza into a second Honk > > Kong , > > instead they spend money on weapons ,,, with the support of IRAN ,, > > It is very easy to STOP shooting and show some good will ,, > > mirjam > > ariadna should make aliyah as soon as possible instead of shouting from t= he > uk- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sieg heil, Gehaessiger Heinie! But you aren't going to see it. From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:19 EST 2008 Article: 1972430 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!40g2000prx.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Gaza and the World - So this is Christmas? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:53:43 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229892823 16537 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 20:53:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 40g2000prx.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1458 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972430 soc.culture.israel:2103617 soc.culture.jewish:2025323 soc.culture.palestine:722083 soc.culture.usa:2442066 A song for them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7adETaOYiQ From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:19 EST 2008 Article: 1972436 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Gaza and the World - So this is Christmas? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229893311 18208 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 21:01:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1596 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972436 soc.culture.israel:2103621 soc.culture.jewish:2025327 soc.culture.palestine:722084 soc.culture.usa:2442071 > A song for them: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7adETaOYiQ And a picture to go with it: http://tinyurl.com/46khxp From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:19 EST 2008 Article: 1972526 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,can.politics,soc.culture.usa Subject: http://mirellewatch.blogspot.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:51:17 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: <24322dd8-6b3e-49b6-9f5b-40daee510e3a@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <5b36f794-f1c4-467e-8771-b2a854ad5147@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1c316987-3dd5-4a64-ad1d-c1663b4ce9bd@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229910677 6129 127.0.0.1 (22 Dec 2008 01:51:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1540 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972526 soc.culture.israel:2103710 soc.culture.jewish:2025407 can.politics:1813805 soc.culture.usa:2442186 http://mirellewatch.blogspot.com From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:20 EST 2008 Article: 1972527 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,rec.collecting.coins,alt.life.sucks,alt.music.white-power,demon.local Subject: http://mirellewatch.blogspot.com Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:52:31 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <482a5119-9db1-41d4-9c28-1003dc3fcfda@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com> References: <7s4tk4dklk60ge7tq5a0qpl6m02vaqn5rh@4ax.com> <41fdf8a8-e900-44ab-b09d-035d8bb7523b@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229910752 6309 127.0.0.1 (22 Dec 2008 01:52:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1443 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972527 rec.collecting.coins:789174 alt.life.sucks:438152 alt.music.white-power:147681 demon.local:989545 http://mirellewatch.blogspot.com From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:21 EST 2008 Article: 1972743 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Gaza and the World - So this is Christmas? Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <524f7c39-f600-4af8-a55e-f7cd50b83bd8@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229965275 31312 127.0.0.1 (22 Dec 2008 17:01:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2052 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972743 soc.culture.israel:2104180 soc.culture.jewish:2025720 soc.culture.palestine:722188 soc.culture.usa:2442481 On 22 Dec, 16:51, "=C7Do=FCg=DFT" wrote: > "Ariadne" wrote in message > > news:ba6e099e-b5d5-4170-8e52-7b889e1beb30@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > >> A song for them: > |> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dr7adETaOYiQ > > > And a picture to go with it: > |> >http://tinyurl.com/46khxp > > Ariadne, that's the 2008 winner of the Gaza Shit beauty contest! What a terrible insult to a fine animal! From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:21 EST 2008 Article: 1972756 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Gaza and the World - So this is Christmas? Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:38:51 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229967531 16843 127.0.0.1 (22 Dec 2008 17:38:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1954 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.revisionism:1972756 soc.culture.israel:2104201 soc.culture.jewish:2025734 soc.culture.palestine:722194 soc.culture.usa:2442513 On 22 Dec, 17:21, Derk Nerkel wrote: > On Dec 21, 1:53=A0pm, Ariadne wrote: > > > A song for them: > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dr7adETaOYiQ > > I'd rather listen to my favorite Angelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DO2= xNTzlFSk0 > God bless her soul where ever it may be. She was young then - but surely not appreciated by HamAss. From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:21:21 EST 2008 Article: 617238 of soc.culture.canada Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.immigration,aus.politics,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.canada Subject: Methusaleh (fomenting hatred) Moss Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:56:00 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <155265a4-e12d-4468-b08e-6778d8935730@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <5Ce3l.6519$8_3.4251@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229856960 26631 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 10:56:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1484 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2493712 alt.politics.immigration:754304 aus.politics:1851764 soc.culture.israel:2103271 soc.culture.canada:617238 - not a good source of information... http://tinyurl.com/8fjr2p From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:21:21 EST 2008 Article: 617331 of soc.culture.canada Path: border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.immigration,aus.politics,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: Abrahamic persecution of other faiths: the rule, not the exception Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:13:58 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 67 Message-ID: <26dffc26-ec35-49ef-969d-f749a1a6f313@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com> References: <5Ce3l.6519$8_3.4251@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com> <494da02a$0$15751$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <0Cj3l.10572$x%.978@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229966039 954 127.0.0.1 (22 Dec 2008 17:13:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 3841 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2494576 alt.politics.immigration:754468 aus.politics:1852832 soc.culture.israel:2104183 soc.culture.canada:617331 On 22 Dec, 16:25, "=C7Do=FCg=DFT" wrote: > "David Moss" wrote in message > > news:Xns9B7C79ADE844Dq0320811mailconnectu@61.9.191.5... > > > > > > > "=C7Do=FCg=DFT" wrote in > >news:0Cj3l.10572$x%.978@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com: > > >> "Seon Ferguson" wrote in message > >>news:494da02a$0$15751$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > >>> "David Moss" wrote in message > >>>news:Xns9B7B6CB47F364q0320811mailconnectu@61.9.191.5... > >>>> "=C7Do=FCg=DFT" wrote in news:5Ce3l.6519$8_3.4251 > >>>> @flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com: > > >>>> Peresecution of other faiths? Its an Abrahamic tradition! > >>>> A quick flick through the original source documents (Bible) will > >>>> prove that > >>>> beyond a shadow of doubt. A slow read through history will confirm > >>>> it. > > >>> Yeah Christianity is. I don't know what Doug is on about but Jesus > >>> was a Jew, his disciples were Jewish he taught Jewish law. It is an > >>> Abraham tradition. > > >> But there's only ONE fucked up religion still practicing it today all > >> over the world. Dumbhammad co-pted Abrahmaic law, Yeshua didn't have > >> to. > > > Maybe you should call the Pope about it. Last I heard he thought > > Catholicism was still being practiced all over the world. Wait till aft= er > > Christmas though, you wouldn't want to spoil his big day. > > Let's see some examples of non-muslime pig persecution of other > faiths Davey. I'm sure I'll be able to provide dozens of muslime pig > examples for every one you provide -- up to, and including genocide. > > > > > -- I call him Methusaleh to illustrate how archaic his claims are. Of course when I posted a link to "Fitna" he excised it, calling it "spam"! http://tinyurl.com/8fjr2p He is very good for the case against Islam since he gives reasonable people lots of opportunities to show what that ideology consists of. For the last seven years: http://thereligionofpeace.com Right up-to-the-minute: http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:21:21 EST 2008 Article: 617439 of soc.culture.canada Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.immigration,aus.politics,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: Methusaleh (fomenting hatred) Moss Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:49:24 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5Ce3l.6519$8_3.4251@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com> <155265a4-e12d-4468-b08e-6778d8935730@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1230040164 11076 127.0.0.1 (23 Dec 2008 13:49:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2409 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2496107 alt.politics.immigration:754908 aus.politics:1854867 soc.culture.israel:2105775 soc.culture.canada:617439 On 23 Dec, 02:24, "=C7Do=FCg=DFT" wrote: > > Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century: the islamonazis: > > http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/ > > and > > http://kenlydell.typepad.com/photos/cartoons/palpolicewestbankmay9200... > > I need to get a picture of the Grand Fuckti of Jerusalem smiling > and shaking hands w/Hitler to make the connection between islamonazism > and nazism complete. http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Haj_Amin_El_Husseini.htm http://www.salvationisfromthejews.com/MuslimNazis/index.html Hitler's Soviet Muslim Legions http://stosstruppen39-45.tripod.com/id10.html http://histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/cou/pal/gm/gm-ber.html History of Hitler and Muslim Waffen SS http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQ3pq1KIUZb4 From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:39 EST 2008 Article: 626320 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!40g2000prx.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.europe,alt.homosexual Subject: Grosvomit goes round another bend! Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <3463cd8fcced6915781a82328ec426c8@remailer.metacolo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229449422 9195 127.0.0.1 (16 Dec 2008 17:43:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 40g2000prx.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1642 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2490410 soc.culture.europe:626320 alt.homosexual:344412 Anonymous Sender wrote: > From: HakenKreuz > Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc Both the above - Grosvomit vomit. Has Grosvomit paid the $50,000 plus costs? ARIADNE .....[she also posts as Vira Perks!] Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! For all in doubt: http://william-grosvenor.info http://mirellewatch.blogspot.com From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:39 EST 2008 Article: 626337 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.84.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.wiretrip.org!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . From: Ariadne Cc: mail2news@dizum.com Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,alt.politics.europe Subject: The REAL HOLOCAUST = of PALESTINIANS BY ZYDS! Message-ID: <6e4fb5c9d36f4986c19737d5a588216c@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:53:36 -0700 (MST) X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@bananasplit.info Organization: Bananasplit - Mail2News Lines: 81 Bytes: 3800 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:626337 soc.culture.german:349895 alt.politics.europe:80217 Ken McVay wants all to know: The REAL HOLOCAUST of PALESTINIANS that is being COMMITTED by ZIONIST-JEWS in ISRAEL, is threatening the extremely lucrative Shoah ?????, Holo-Cash business, and there's no business like the Shoah ????? business! What happened to LEST WE FORGET? http://jewsdisgustedbyzionism.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust-of- palestinians.html http://sharavidoyouenjoybeingacannibal.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust- of-palestinians.html http://fourthreichisrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/real-holocaust-of- palestinians.html THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY: REFLECTIONS ON THE EXPLOITATION OF JEWISH SUFFERING - by Norman G. 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From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:40 EST 2008 Article: 626696 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.europe,alt.politics.immigration Subject: Re: EU parliament bans Fitna Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:56 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4e47547e-f092-4bde-8e60-4379fd07ef94@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com> References: <1dac4394-8aa8-4b03-b296-bacb66dbaff8@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229878736 5900 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 16:58:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 2310 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2493927 soc.culture.europe:626696 alt.politics.europe:80300 alt.politics.immigration:754338 On 17 Dec, 23:38, simple.language.ya...@gmail.com wrote: > source:http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hVB7py6GYhH_rLfFuv... > > The EU parliament prevented the showing on Wednesday of an anti- > Islamic film made by far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders, bringing cries > of censorship from the British eurodeputy who organised the screening. > > "The banning of this film is a direct attack on free speech," said > British MEP Gerard Batten, who had organised the event, though > officials pointed out that parliamentary leaders had banned the film > from being shown in their Strasbourg building back in March. > > "A parliament that constantly talks of freedom, democracy and > tolerance has shown once again that these are empty words when it does > not agree with what is being said," added Batten, a member of the > eurosceptic UK Independence Party (UKIP). > http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/31/liveleak-restores-fitna/ From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:40 EST 2008 Article: 626704 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ariadne Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.europe,alt.homosexual Subject: Grosvomit Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:09:05 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: References: <3463cd8fcced6915781a82328ec426c8@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.114.0.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1229886545 18661 127.0.0.1 (21 Dec 2008 19:09:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.114.0.226; posting-account=_X2Z3woAAABMj0hE2xIpln2M_eXrTt4Z User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Bytes: 1386 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2494015 soc.culture.europe:626704 alt.homosexual:344464 On 21 Dec, 18:52, Dave U. Random wrote: > From: HakenKreuz From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:40 EST 2008 Article: 626766 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feeder8.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: Ariadne Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.europe Subject: HOLODOMOR=The REAL HOLOCAUST BY ZYDS/Ivrai X-Invalid: On Ukraine Christians that ZYD Communists want us to forget ! Message-ID: <0cd0fd9360930d400a20b40d4820fff1@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:35:41 -0700 (MST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 197 Bytes: 8755 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.ukrainian:117579 soc.culture.russian:515275 soc.culture.europe:626766 HOLODOMOR=The REAL HOLOCAUST BY ZYDS/Ivrai On Ukraine Christians that ZYD Communists want us to forget ! Many more than 7 million innocent Ukrainian Christians died in the holocaust which ZYDS want to be "forgotten" - HOLODOMOR in Ukraine! By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor Toronto Sun Five years ago, I wrote about the unknown Holocaust in Ukraine. I was shockedto receive a flood of mail from young Americans and Canadians of Ukrainiandescent telling me that until they read my column, they knew nothing of the1932-33 genocide in which Josef Stalin's Soviet regime murdered seven millionUkrainians and sent two million more to concentration camps. How, I wondered, could such historical amnesia afflict so many? For Jews and Armenians, the genocides their people suffered are vivid, living memories that influence their daily lives. Yet today, on the 70th anniversary of the destruction of a quarter of Ukraine's population, this titanic crime has almost vanished into history's black hole. So has the extermination of the Don Cossacks by the communists in the 1920s,the Volga Germans in 1941 and mass executions and deportations toconcentration camps of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Poles. At the endof World War II, Stalin's gulag held 5.5 million prisoners, 23% of them Ukrainians and 6% Baltic peoples. Almost unknown is the genocide of two million of the USSR's Muslim peoples:Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, Tajiks, Bashkirs and Kazaks. The Chechenindependence fighters who today are branded as "terrorists" by the U.S. andRussia are the grandchildren of survivors of Soviet concentration camps. Add to this list of forgotten atrocities the murder in Eastern Europe from1945-47 of at least two million ethnic Germans, mostly women and children, andthe violent expulsion of 15 million more Germans, during which two millionGerman girls and women were raped. Among these monstrous crimes, Ukraine stands out as the worst in terms ofnumbers. Stalin declared war on his own people in 1932, sending Commissars V.Molotov and Lazar Kaganovitch and NKVD secret police chief Genrikh Yagoda tocrush the resistance of Ukrainian farmers to forced collectivization. Ukraine was sealed off. All food supplies and livestock were confiscated. NKVDdeath squads executed "anti-party elements." Furious that insufficientUkrainians were being shot, Kaganovitch - virtually the Soviet Union's AdolfEichmann - set a quota of 10,000 executions a week. Eighty percent ofUkrainian intellectuals were shot. During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shotor died of starvation and cold. Cannibalism became common. Ukraine, writeshistorian Robert Conquest, looked like a giant version of the futureBergen-Belsen death camp. The mass murder of seven million Ukrainians, three million of them children,and deportation to the gulag of two million more (where most died) was hiddenby Soviet propaganda. Pro-communist westerners, like The New York Times'Walter Duranty, British writers Sidney and Beatrice Webb and French PrimeMinister Edouard Herriot, toured Ukraine, denied reports of genocide, and applauded what they called Soviet "agrarian reform." Those who spoke outagainst the genocide were branded "fascist agents." The U.S., British, and Canadian governments, however, were well aware of thegenocide, but closed their eyes, even blocking aid groups from going to Ukraine. The only European leaders to raise a cry over Soviet industrialized murderwere, ironically and for their own cynical and self-serving reasons, Hitlerand Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Because Kaganovitch, Yagoda and some other senior Communist party and NKVDofficials were Jewish, Hitler's absurd claim that communism was a Jewish plotto destroy Christian civilization became widely believed across a fearful Europe. When war came, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British PM WinstonChurchill allied themselves closely to Stalin, though they were well aware hisregime had murdered at least 30 million people long before Hitler'sextermination of Jews and gypsies began. Yet in the strange moral calculus ofmass murder, only Germans were guilty. Though Stalin murdered three times more people than Hitler, to Roosevelt heremained "Uncle Joe." The British-U.S. alliance with Stalin made them his partners in crime. Roosevelt and Churchill helped preserve history's most murderous regime, towhich they handed over half of Europe in 1945. After the war, the left tried to cover up Soviet genocide. Jean-Paul Sartredenied the gulag even existed. For the western Allies, Nazism was the only evil; they could not admit beingallied to mass murderers. For the Soviets, promoting the Jewish Holocaustperpetuated anti-fascism and masked their own crimes. The Jewish people, understandably, saw their Holocaust as a unique event. It was Israel's raison d'etre. Raising other genocides at that time would, they feared, diminish their own. This was only human nature. While today, academia, the media and Hollywood rightly keep attention focused on the Jewish Holocaust, they mostly ignore Ukraine. We still hunt Nazi killers, but not communist killers. There are few photos of the Ukraine genocide or Stalin's gulag, and fewer living survivors. Dead men tell no tales. Russia never prosecuted any of its mass murderers, as Germany did. We know all about the crimes of Nazis Adolf Eichmann and Heinrich Himmler; about Babi Yar and Auschwitz. But who remembers Soviet mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Kaganovitch, Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria? Were it not for writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn, we might never know of Soviet death camps like Magadan, Kolyma and Vorkuta. Movie after movie appears about Nazi evil, while the evil of the Soviet era vanishes from view or dissolves into nostalgia. The souls of Stalin's millions of victims still cry out for justice. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net or Ariadne or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jp g Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From nobody@mixmaster.it Wed Dec 24 13:22:41 EST 2008 Article: 626590 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe Subject: Europeans to Rothschild: RETURN OUR STOLEN TRILLIONS! Message-ID: <5739afe18ab394b107230bf8e33efb23@mixmaster.it> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:25:12 +0100 (CET) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 44 Bytes: 4009 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:626590 THE HIDDEN SECRET STORY OF THE WORLD FINANCIAL MARKETS: THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY OWNS HALF OF THE WORLD AND THEIR SECRET NET WORTH IS ABOVE 100 TRLLIONS OF DOLLARS (in comparison, Bill GATES, supposedly the "world richest man" along with warren buffet and some others, have only 40 Billions dollars each approx.) http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article56239.ece Americans wants their money back! Americans and Europeans and Asians have all lost trillions through their retirement funds, investments, and homes. They are also loosing their jobs and industries. The reason is hidden by the major media but Internet allows to us share the TRUTH with you: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws" Meyer Rothschild, the most powerful man who ever lived. For many years the words international banker, Rothschild, Money and Gold have held a mystical type of fascination for many people around the world but particularly in the United States. Over the years in the United States, the international bankers have come in for a great deal of criticism by a wide variety of individuals who have held high offices of public trust - men whose opinions are worthy of note and whose responsibilities placed them in positions where they knew what was going on behind the scenes in politics and high finance. President Andrew Jackson, the only one of our presidents whose administration totally abolished the National Debt, condemned the international bankers as a "den of vipers" which he was determined to "rout out" of the fabric of American life. Jackson claimed that if only the American people understood how these vipers operated on the American scene "there would a revolution before morning." Congressman Louis T. McFadden who, for more than ten years, served as chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee, stated that the international bankers are a "dark crew of financial pirates who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket... They prey upon the people of these United States." John F. Hylan, then mayor of New York, said in 1911 that "the real menace of our republic is the invisible government which, like a giant octopus, sprawls its slimy length over our city, state and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses, generally referred to as 'international bankers.'" Were these leading public figures correct in their assessment of the situation, or were they the victims of some exotic form of paranoia? Let's examine history analytically and unemotionally and uncover the facts. The truth, as it unfolds, will prove to be eye-opening and educational to those who are seeking to more clearly understand the mind-boggling events that have been (and are) taking place on the national and international scenes. http://web.archive.org/web/20061111032118/http://www.wealth4freedom.com/ROTHSCHILD_print.htm The only way such small group can rule over your lives is by dividing you! (their moto: "Divide to conquer") AMEN! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From nobody@mixmaster.it Wed Dec 24 13:22:41 EST 2008 Article: 626920 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe Subject: Find the exact Place where the Rothschilds physically live Message-ID: <3aa1622686d3bb085ba1f3d66f3e46ee@mixmaster.it> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:08:32 +0100 (CET) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 16 Bytes: 1440 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:626920 You MUST identify who and where people who work for the Jews or the Rothschilds live and spy on them and learn all their habits and contacts (use of watchlists is highly recommended and please do share those watchlists, and assume "good faith" with your neigbors)! In Jesus'name, AMEN. They must know they are under our constant vigilant surveillance. We are the vast majority! They (those racist muderers and terrorists) cannot defeat us if we remain united and peaceful. AMEN! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From ariadne.mac@gmail.com Wed Dec 24 13:29:50 EST 2008 Article: 515275 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feeder8.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: Ariadne Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.europe Subject: HOLODOMOR=The REAL HOLOCAUST BY ZYDS/Ivrai X-Invalid: On Ukraine Christians that ZYD Communists want us to forget ! Message-ID: <0cd0fd9360930d400a20b40d4820fff1@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:35:41 -0700 (MST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 197 Bytes: 8755 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.ukrainian:117579 soc.culture.russian:515275 soc.culture.europe:626766 HOLODOMOR=The REAL HOLOCAUST BY ZYDS/Ivrai On Ukraine Christians that ZYD Communists want us to forget ! Many more than 7 million innocent Ukrainian Christians died in the holocaust which ZYDS want to be "forgotten" - HOLODOMOR in Ukraine! By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor Toronto Sun Five years ago, I wrote about the unknown Holocaust in Ukraine. I was shockedto receive a flood of mail from young Americans and Canadians of Ukrainiandescent telling me that until they read my column, they knew nothing of the1932-33 genocide in which Josef Stalin's Soviet regime murdered seven millionUkrainians and sent two million more to concentration camps. How, I wondered, could such historical amnesia afflict so many? For Jews and Armenians, the genocides their people suffered are vivid, living memories that influence their daily lives. Yet today, on the 70th anniversary of the destruction of a quarter of Ukraine's population, this titanic crime has almost vanished into history's black hole. So has the extermination of the Don Cossacks by the communists in the 1920s,the Volga Germans in 1941 and mass executions and deportations toconcentration camps of Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Poles. At the endof World War II, Stalin's gulag held 5.5 million prisoners, 23% of them Ukrainians and 6% Baltic peoples. Almost unknown is the genocide of two million of the USSR's Muslim peoples:Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, Tajiks, Bashkirs and Kazaks. The Chechenindependence fighters who today are branded as "terrorists" by the U.S. andRussia are the grandchildren of survivors of Soviet concentration camps. Add to this list of forgotten atrocities the murder in Eastern Europe from1945-47 of at least two million ethnic Germans, mostly women and children, andthe violent expulsion of 15 million more Germans, during which two millionGerman girls and women were raped. Among these monstrous crimes, Ukraine stands out as the worst in terms ofnumbers. Stalin declared war on his own people in 1932, sending Commissars V.Molotov and Lazar Kaganovitch and NKVD secret police chief Genrikh Yagoda tocrush the resistance of Ukrainian farmers to forced collectivization. Ukraine was sealed off. All food supplies and livestock were confiscated. NKVDdeath squads executed "anti-party elements." Furious that insufficientUkrainians were being shot, Kaganovitch - virtually the Soviet Union's AdolfEichmann - set a quota of 10,000 executions a week. Eighty percent ofUkrainian intellectuals were shot. During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shotor died of starvation and cold. Cannibalism became common. Ukraine, writeshistorian Robert Conquest, looked like a giant version of the futureBergen-Belsen death camp. The mass murder of seven million Ukrainians, three million of them children,and deportation to the gulag of two million more (where most died) was hiddenby Soviet propaganda. Pro-communist westerners, like The New York Times'Walter Duranty, British writers Sidney and Beatrice Webb and French PrimeMinister Edouard Herriot, toured Ukraine, denied reports of genocide, and applauded what they called Soviet "agrarian reform." Those who spoke outagainst the genocide were branded "fascist agents." The U.S., British, and Canadian governments, however, were well aware of thegenocide, but closed their eyes, even blocking aid groups from going to Ukraine. The only European leaders to raise a cry over Soviet industrialized murderwere, ironically and for their own cynical and self-serving reasons, Hitlerand Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Because Kaganovitch, Yagoda and some other senior Communist party and NKVDofficials were Jewish, Hitler's absurd claim that communism was a Jewish plotto destroy Christian civilization became widely believed across a fearful Europe. When war came, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British PM WinstonChurchill allied themselves closely to Stalin, though they were well aware hisregime had murdered at least 30 million people long before Hitler'sextermination of Jews and gypsies began. Yet in the strange moral calculus ofmass murder, only Germans were guilty. Though Stalin murdered three times more people than Hitler, to Roosevelt heremained "Uncle Joe." The British-U.S. alliance with Stalin made them his partners in crime. Roosevelt and Churchill helped preserve history's most murderous regime, towhich they handed over half of Europe in 1945. After the war, the left tried to cover up Soviet genocide. Jean-Paul Sartredenied the gulag even existed. For the western Allies, Nazism was the only evil; they could not admit beingallied to mass murderers. For the Soviets, promoting the Jewish Holocaustperpetuated anti-fascism and masked their own crimes. The Jewish people, understandably, saw their Holocaust as a unique event. It was Israel's raison d'etre. Raising other genocides at that time would, they feared, diminish their own. This was only human nature. While today, academia, the media and Hollywood rightly keep attention focused on the Jewish Holocaust, they mostly ignore Ukraine. We still hunt Nazi killers, but not communist killers. There are few photos of the Ukraine genocide or Stalin's gulag, and fewer living survivors. Dead men tell no tales. Russia never prosecuted any of its mass murderers, as Germany did. We know all about the crimes of Nazis Adolf Eichmann and Heinrich Himmler; about Babi Yar and Auschwitz. But who remembers Soviet mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Kaganovitch, Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria? Were it not for writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn, we might never know of Soviet death camps like Magadan, Kolyma and Vorkuta. Movie after movie appears about Nazi evil, while the evil of the Soviet era vanishes from view or dissolves into nostalgia. The souls of Stalin's millions of victims still cry out for justice. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net or Ariadne or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jp g Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:48 EST 2008 Article: 129239 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: can.general,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: ZYD/Jew Charity Fraud Prosecuted by CRA-Latest-BB & McVay Next? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:57:34 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 104 Message-ID: <913dk45pk5vemnf3te9go57pvgs3vfpa6h@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d0PxC9pAZH18xKrSPOb/Jw.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:57:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.7.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Cancel-Lock: sha1:O/yDsmqDAI6VsblGd9SM4+r0tcM= Bytes: 5059 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com can.general:353000 tor.general:348210 can.taxes:129239 ZYD/Jew Charity Fraud Prosecuted by CRA-Latest-BB & McVay Next? Frank Arthur wants all to know: One more ZYD/Jew Charity Fraud Prosecuted by CRA Financial Post newspaperin Canada carries headline story Saturday 13 December 2008, updating the story. Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] now reports that around 65,000 taxpayers who participated in these scams are now being re-assessed! CRA is disallowing completely ALL of the alleged donation. Further CRA will also face arrears interest, as well as civil, and even criminal penalties! Even zionist owned Asper newspapers carried this news across Canada, following the Canadian Jew News story. Canadian Jew News had a banner headline story on page 3 of the issue for November 13 2008, detailing yet another ZYD charity tax fraud. Choson Kallah Fund of Toronto has been stripped of its charitable status by CRA [Canada Revenue Agency] after being found guilty of having as its main purpose to serve as part of a CRIMINAL tax-avoidance scheme. Terry de March, director general of the CRA charities directorate has ordered the revokation of the group's charitable status, which bars it from issuing charitable donation receipts. The group is no longer exempt from paying income taxes, and further, now must pay tax on the remaining assets it has. In a stinging denunciation of the group's illegal activities, the CRA gave some of the reasons for revoking the charitable status: It remains our view that the charity has willingly lent its name and tax-receiptingt privileges to the tax shelter in exchange for monetary compensation. In our view, the charity has participated in a program designed to abuse the charitable gifts incentive provisions of the Income Tax Act." "In 2006 alone...the charity issued receipts totalling over $131 million" compared to previous years average of $4-$6 million a year. The charity also failed to maintain the documentation necessary to prove recipients of allocated funds met the definition of charity required by law. Some recipients received money for weddings, fertility treatments and even to pay private debts. No wonder Bnai Brith Canada is running scared. It is involved in questionable payments to Ken McVay's one-fag business, and is doing MONEY-LAUNDERING of payments for him!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATLANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net, or Ariadne - ariadne.mac@gmail.com or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe all of us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Dec 24 13:19:48 EST 2008 Article: 129264 of can.taxes Path: border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!news2!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . From: Frank Arthur Cc: mail2news@dizum.com Newsgroups: can.general,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: ZYD/Jew Charity Fraud Prosecuted by CRA-Latest-BB & McVay Next? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:43:28 -0700 (MST) X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@bananasplit.info Organization: Bananasplit - Mail2News Bytes: 4918 Lines: 103 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com can.general:353155 tor.general:348219 can.taxes:129264 Frank Arthur wants all to know: One more ZYD/Jew Charity Fraud Prosecuted by CRA Financial Post newspaperin Canada carries headline story Saturday 13 December 2008, updating the story. Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] now reports that around 65,000 taxpayers who participated in these scams are now being re-assessed! CRA is disallowing completely ALL of the alleged donation. Further CRA will also face arrears interest, as well as civil, and even criminal penalties! Even zionist owned Asper newspapers carried this news across Canada, following the Canadian Jew News story. Canadian Jew News had a banner headline story on page 3 of the issue for November 13 2008, detailing yet another ZYD charity tax fraud. Choson Kallah Fund of Toronto has been stripped of its charitable status by CRA [Canada Revenue Agency] after being found guilty of having as its main purpose to serve as part of a CRIMINAL tax-avoidance scheme. Terry de March, director general of the CRA charities directorate has ordered the revokation of the group's charitable status, which bars it from issuing charitable donation receipts. The group is no longer exempt from paying income taxes, and further, now must pay tax on the remaining assets it has. In a stinging denunciation of the group's illegal activities, the CRA gave some of the reasons for revoking the charitable status: It remains our view that the charity has willingly lent its name and tax-receiptingt privileges to the tax shelter in exchange for monetary compensation. In our view, the charity has participated in a program designed to abuse the charitable gifts incentive provisions of the Income Tax Act." "In 2006 alone...the charity issued receipts totalling over $131 million" compared to previous years average of $4-$6 million a year. The charity also failed to maintain the documentation necessary to prove recipients of allocated funds met the definition of charity required by law. Some recipients received money for weddings, fertility treatments and even to pay private debts. No wonder Bnai Brith Canada is running scared. It is involved in questionable payments to Ken McVay's one-fag business, and is doing MONEY-LAUNDERING of payments for him!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net, or Ariadne - ariadne.mac@gmail.com or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe all of us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:32 EST 2008 Article: 626342 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.australian, X-Invalid: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Protocols of Zion FULLY TRANSLATED in Modern English Message-ID: <20704387cab8f71e6895c2940aeff1e4@pseudo.borked.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:00:14 -0700 (MST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 151 Bytes: 5678 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:626342 uk.politics.misc:2490579 soc.culture.australian:474965 http://www.iamthewitness.com/Protocols.in.Modern.English.htm A one page summary. Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can't run their nations properly. For their sake and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it's for a good cause. Here's what we'll need to do: a.. Place our agents and helpers everywhere b.. Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans c.. Start fights between different races, classes and religions d.. Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way e.. Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials f.. Appeal to successful people's egos g.. Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail h.. Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism i.. Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us j.. Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary k.. Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism l.. Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect m.. Rewrite history to our benefit n.. Create entertaining distractions o.. Corrupt minds with filth and perversion p.. Encourage people to spy on one another q.. Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor r.. Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold s.. Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc. t.. Introduce a progressive tax on wealth u.. Replace sound investment with speculation v.. Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments w.. Give bad advice to governments and everyone else Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments (because we'll blame them for the resulting mess) that they'll gladly have us take over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the world, and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises. Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule. Chapters: Protocol I What We Believe Protocol II Economic Wars Protocol III Methods of Conquest Protocol IV Materialism to Replace Religion Protocol V Despotism and Modern Progress Protocol VI Take-Over Technique Protocol VII World-Wide Wars Protocol VIII Provisional Government Protocol IX Re-education Protocol X Preparing for Power Protocol XI The Totalitarian State Protocol XII Control of the Media Protocol XIII Distractions Protocol XIV Assault on Religion Protocol XV Ruthless Suppression Protocol XVI Brainwashing Protocol XVII Abuse of Authority Protocol XVIII Arrest of Opponents Protocol XIX Rulers and People Protocol XX Financial Program Protocol XXI Loans and Credit Protocol XXII Power of Gold Protocol XXIII Instilling Obedience Protocol XXIV Qualities of the Ruler Top of Protocols For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 Map to Frankie's residence: http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=378%20MCDONOUGH%20BLVD%20SE+ATL ANTA+GA+30315 or to Steve Horn - kcom@earthlink.net, or Ariadne - ariadne.mac@gmail.com or KenMcVay@vex.net Picture of disgusting pervert at: http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 Feel free to subscribe all of us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Dec 24 13:22:32 EST 2008 Article: 626389 of soc.culture.europe Subject: KOSHER TAX - Video From: Frank Arthur Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:14 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Bytes: 26967 Lines: 564 Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!prop.superfeed.net!news-in2.spamkiller.net!news.bananasplit.info!mail2news.mixmin.net Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.europe,can.general Sender: Borked Pseudo Mailed Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . Cc: mail2news@m2n.mixmin.net X-Invalid: mail2news@reece.net.au,mail2news@dizum.com X-Abuse-Contact: abuse@mixmin.net X-Original-Bytes: 26837 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2491063 soc.culture.europe:626389 can.general:353163 To view one of the latest videos on the ZYD/Jew KOSHER TAX, forcibly paid by all, just go to: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1998729296709842517 The ZYD zionazis keep wiping the URL to prevent the truth from being read, because of the hundreds of millions from extortion they stand to lose when the Goyim finally get fed up. This interesting video gives lots of details about the KOSHER TAX, and all the emblems used by the ZYDS on products showing they got paid the KOSHER TAX. By the way, Heinz/Libby stopped paying the KOSHER TAX on many products, according to articles published in Canadian Jew News!! This saves Heinz and their customers money. On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, gordonv8@hotmail.com wrote: >Jewish taxation without Gentile representation >"A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above >revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on >food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food >items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and >from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish >tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there >metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on >food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter >medications. And the question that the above revelations urgently >presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax - if it may be >so described - costs the average Canadian household each year. Ten >dollars? A hundred dollars? A thousand dollars? What? Why don't we >know? Why is there no way to find out? Why isn't this a matter of >public record?" >Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below: >http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html >Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page: >http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!! MORE! On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel wrote: Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites, like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary, Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks.... Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do, such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be qualified to do... Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!! >From: norma2339@charter.net >Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general >Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!! >Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800 >"veranda" wrote in message >news: ... >> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since it >> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation . >> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago . >> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of >> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost >> wrote in message >> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com... >> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost would >> > not change in any way. This "paranoia" is silly. >veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money . >In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer >must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public >Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services , >you knew that ! >Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though , >we got our own ! :) >Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves >something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a >flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel >doesn't really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the >Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and >meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between >those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the >day.) >What would it save you--less than $10 a year. >All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don't think that it >is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who >have demanded more money? >Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted >more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the >Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business >couldn't make any money either. >On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin wrote: >Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article >following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!! >The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer >by >Ernesto Cienfuegos >La Voz de Aztlan >Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan >receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers >and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our >attention. >Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance >of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found >printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen >products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we >do some research into the subject. What we found >certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us. >On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to >verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough, >most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like >Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other >similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers >Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper >container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic >sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them. >We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies >to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the >Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads >plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as >most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages >for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their >products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the >(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait >until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us >that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher". >We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and >whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and >other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public >Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what >the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and >she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher" >but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox >Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their >products. >What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned >that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax >amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to >receive protection. >This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of >the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer >the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned >not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and >other similar markings. >Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these >sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the >perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually >Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other >western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation >in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The >(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan >and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of >Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue >in New York City. >The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast >amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of >Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in >Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is >full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda. >The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi >approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is >certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a >boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food >companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish >dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in >bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed >on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from >the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount >of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis. >It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which >manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the >"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200 >Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. >Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a >large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, >the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows >up to "inspect" the company's operations. >Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very >lucrative salaries. >The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food >companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is >estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The >Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount >of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote >about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about >it now. >Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will >eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public >education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of >all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I >certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee" >or "kosher plastic sandwich bags". >In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years >for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys >out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of >Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and >other non-Jewish people? >* * * * * * * * * * * * >CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE >ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!! >>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers >>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada >>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost >>>all Heinz products. >>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according >>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea. >>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces >>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods. >>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans, >>>including those sold under the Libby's label. >>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from >>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi >>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of >>>Orthodox Rabbis). >>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the >>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!! >>>From: tyler >>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general >>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs >>>consumers >>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT >>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers >>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian >>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the >>>proof is easily found. >>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher. >>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as >>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label, >>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis >>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform >>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher. >>>The following has been snipped from: >>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm >>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words >>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs >>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious >>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR >>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian >>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items. >>>The website explains: >>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work >>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of >>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release >>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every >>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the >>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require >>>close investigation and supervision. >>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate >>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product, >>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly >>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products >>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the >>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor. >>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense >>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients. >>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic >>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in >>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the >>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is >>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of >>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a >>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer. >>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For >>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work. >>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees >>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product. >>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to >>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say >>>that! >>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They >>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross >>>annual sales of the product. >>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your >>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are >>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased >>>because something is certified. >>>tyler >>>the consumer watchdog!!! As to what those markings mean: The letter "K" simply means "Kosher." Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper, and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost incomprehensible to those not versed in them. The small "u" in a circle or ("OU") stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its preparation. (An "OUD" marking shows that the package contains dairy products,while an "OUM" indicates the presence of meat.) "Parve" (also "pareve") is Yiddish for "neutral." The presence of this word onpackaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.) This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed byJudaism on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who doare the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those markings. The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware, and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed using a soap made from animal fats). Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork andshellfish but don't lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate thathad months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the "Jewish Secret Tax" slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their backs on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,it doesn't prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a "don't buy that because it's not kosher" directive have much effect even if there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it. Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosherpractices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of the "secret tax" claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he's determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off by those companies' owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fundused to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and thosewho run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion ofmaking enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family. Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount isminiscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping, research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costsassociated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a package ? it's all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails against the "Secret Red Ink Conspiracy" or rants about the "Helvetica Font Tax." Barbara "heading for Helvetica in a handbasket" Mikkelson Additional information: A Kosher Primer (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America) Last updated: 24 May 2002 The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm Harry Mazal wrote: > Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth. > Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and > complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting > the many millions of dollars from Heinz. > Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat? > On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, sheldon@liberman.com wrote: > >GeorgeF wrote: > >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION > >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID > >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!! > >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic) > >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his > >> part-time job!! > >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the > >> extortion tax!! > >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no > >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites, > >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary, > >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks.... > >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do, > >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be > >> qualified to do... > >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE > >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad > >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!! If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! 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